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Archive July 2019
Site not in used. Was in mistake created. No pictures for it. Riquix (talk) 05:23, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Created in error. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:02, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
One photo does not make a category... the majority of photos have been removed. Also the only photo left is nominated for deletion as a duplicate as one that was already removed. 2600:6C56:6F08:1CF:0:464:3322:362B 08:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Empty category. --MB-one (talk) 17:04, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Unnecessary category with typo error (is "Las" and not "las"). Before to nominate it I created Category:Cuerpo de Bomberos de Las Palmas de Gran Canaria and populate it with related photographs. Ivanhercaz (talk) 01:23, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ninguna objección.--JT Curses (talk) 01:31, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Tagged as renamed to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 03:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Close: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/07/Category:World
This seems redundant to Category:Konstantin Shapiro because the two persons seem to be the same (but I am not totally sure). Steak (talk) 09:40, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Moved to: Category:Constantin Shapiro. Harmonized the two categories with en.wiki name Constantin Shapiro. -- Geagea (talk) 11:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Created because of an embarrassing spelling mistake by me, should have been Australia, not Aistralia! Please delete, the correct category has already been created. Calistemon (talk) 06:50, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Calistemon: I tagged it with the {{Bad name}} template to get it deleted. That's usually a better option for this kind of case that doesn't really need discussion. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 08:17, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
--- Closing: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:34, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Please delete this redundant category for Olga Karasyova (her name in English, "Olga Karasjowa" is the German spelling of the name of this Russian gymnast) as she already has a category at Category:Olga Karasyova. Thanks in advance. 93.107.159.22 22:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Close: I made this one a redirect, since someone might reasonably use this spelling. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
It should be 360-degree video insted of 360° Video (per Wikipedia article) also it's not easy to type degree symbol. Please delete this category Eatcha (talk) 14:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Speedy closed, redirecting to appropriate target. — Huntster (t @ c) 01:16, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
restaurants near me 2001:4898:80E8:F:616B:AE04:C5FE:4BFC 23:56, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
C!ose -- nothing to discuss. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:54, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Merge into Category:Wikivoyage banners of the British Virgin Islands.--Kai3952 (talk) 05:22, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Close: cat redirected, content moved. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Should the files be deleted as there is no FOP in Ukraine? 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 05:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- @大诺史: That should be addressed at the file level, not the category level. Please propose deleting the files. If the category becomes empty, then it can be deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Close: issue is with files, not the category. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:49, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-2 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-2 Robby (talk) 08:59, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy merged, non-controversial request. — Huntster (t @ c) 12:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Empty category about a not-notable blog created for promotional purpose. BRP ever 02:30, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Tagged as empty to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted as empty. --rimshottalk 21:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Using the same logic as was discussed in Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/05/Category:Men with glasses, can we remove the categories for individual men from this category? There are a lot of them, so I wanted to be sure before removing them. Auntof6 (talk) 06:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Support — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 10:52, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Seems to be pretty much straightforward and uncontroversial, so I'm closing the discussion and making the changes as proposed. -- Darwin Ahoy! 18:59, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Should this category and its children use the initials UNOC like the other related categories? I don't see a reason to use the initials of the French name for the Sweden categories. Auntof6 (talk) 05:02, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it should probably be changed to UNOC. It was a mistake from my part when creating the category. /Saftgurka (talk) 07:45, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Saftgurka: OK, then since you, the creator, are OK with it, I'll go ahead and rename the categories. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Closing: will rename as noted above. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Skulpturen 2003:D3:771C:EB97:F0B8:FB40:B834:3E1B 15:38, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Nonsense, nothing to discuss. --jdx Re: 15:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Merge into Category:Food products of restaurants Roy17 (talk) 10:58, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. There are subcats under the Hard Rock Cafe for non-food products, such as clothing and items in gift shops. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: you're right. I didnt think of restaurants selling non-food merchandise.--Roy17 (talk) 11:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
No action.--Roy17 (talk) 11:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Category made in mistake. Twice Riquix (talk) 07:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted as requested by creator. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:37, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Category are moved Vivekananda was his disciple. So this name are not more used. Riquix (talk) 07:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted as requested by creator. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:36, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
empty duplicate of Category:Pierre Guillaume Frédéric Le Play Robby (talk) 22:02, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Unused category with self-promotional creator page Sweet kate (talk) 15:57, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- deleted. --Jarekt (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Very specific renaming category is empty, no longer needed. Recommend deletion. ···日本穣Talk to Nihonjoe 22:21, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Empty and unlikely to be needed again. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
the family of Dotti 2601:283:8280:2B2E:999A:43B:8A2F:B18B 23:58, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- What? Please explain what's wrong with the category. // Qual è il problema che vedi in questa categoria? "Dotti" non è presente, forse parli di qualche cos'altro. Se vuoi aggiungere un palazzo alla categoria devi prima caricare una foto e poi creare una categoria per quel palazzo. Nemo 09:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Nonsense nomination by anonymous IP. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
named in error, category moved to new location (Category:Line art of landforms). ···日本穣Talk to Nihonjoe 20:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted at request of creator. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:29, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Proszę o usunięcie błędnej kategorii Regan1973 (talk) 21:06, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted in favour of Category:Monuments in Kolbuszowa. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
first european settlers 2405:7F00:9A10:B200:D49E:740A:60B9:D7CE 01:41, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- What's being proposed here? It should probbaly be moved to just Category:Boggabri though since disambiguation doesn't seem nessesarry and the WP article was moved back in 2014. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Nonsense, nothing to discuss. --jdx Re: 05:05, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Empty category. Also the person has No notability. Sreejith K (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Category is not empty. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- It probably should be. We don't need 5 different photos of a blogger. Wikimedia only allows uploading one photo for using it as a {{User page image}} --Sreejith K (talk) 03:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Delete non notable, self promotion. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)- Delete. It was moved from its past name a while ago (wrongfully). Non-notable. Hiàn (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Done: Empty, self-promo, not notable. --Yann (talk) 06:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
One Direction 45.117.247.234 08:31, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Nonsense, nothing to discuss. --jdx Re: 07:58, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
This is a category that has only one item in it and will never have any additional items, since the subject is long deceased and there are no other conceivable additions to be made. All the categories this category is can should be added to the lone image contained in it. --[[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] (talk) 16:28, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Given that previous category deletion requests were denied and, the single images in the category Presidents of Georgetown University were all recently given their own category, I withdraw my deletion request. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] (talk) 19:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Closed by request. --ghouston (talk) 06:52, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
This is a category that has only one item in it and will never have any additional items, since the subject is long deceased and there are no other conceivable additions to be made. All the categories this category is can should be added to the lone image contained in it. --[[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Given that previous category deletion requests were denied and, the single images in the category Presidents of Georgetown University were all recently given their own category, I withdraw my deletion request. [[User:Ergo Sum|'''<span style="color:#0645AD">Ergo Sum</span>''']] (talk) 19:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Closed by request. --ghouston (talk) 06:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Emptied. The 108K+ files from 500px should be reviewed by a bot, or not at all. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 08:57, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Just to be clear - You're saying they should automatically be reviewed by bot, so there's no need for this category anymore? It will be empty forever? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: by a bot, or not at all, which is also a valid option as the files were imported with a tool that checked the license. There were 1200 random files in the category and now it'll be empty forever. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 10:51, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
German language category, not meeting Commons:Categories. If this category is actually required (it doesn't look necessary to me), it should be named village baking ovens or similar. Ies (talk) 15:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think it's redundant with Category:Bake houses in Germany, isn't it? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Content moved to Category:Bake houses in Germany and category deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Should this be merged with Category:Vishnu temples, or is it a specific temple? Auntof6 (talk) 08:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- This is a case where a category had originally an entirely different meaning than now. Originally, it was created for a rock formation of the Grand Canyon named Vishnu Temple. This is obvious from the initial version of this category which placed it in the categories Vishnu Creek, Asbestos Canyon, and Unkar Creek. (You can find more about this rockformation in File:Grand Canyon Yaki Point Sunset 2006 09 09.jpg if you look for the right-most annotated object and at various web pages like [1], [2] and [3]). This was overturned through a series of edits by Parabolooidal (sockpuppet of Mattisse) who removed all these categories and added Vishnu instead. He also emptied the category from its former contents. Afterwards, the category was refilled with material unrelated to the rock formation. I suggest following:
- Rename Category:Vishnu Temple to Category:Vishnu Temple, Grand Canyon and add a short explantory note to it. This makes it more unlikely that this category will be mixed up with Category:Vishnu temples and its subcategories.
- Move its current contents over to Category:Vishnu temples.
- Make Category:Vishnu Temple a redirect to Category:Vishnu temples, if so desired, or keep it deleted.
- Restore the old contents of the category. We would just have to undo this.
- --AFBorchert (talk) 13:23, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- This proposal seems reasonable, though I would suggest deleting Category:Vishnu Temple. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- AFBorchert's suggestion makes sense. Delete the redirect Vishnu Temple.--Roy17 (talk) 03:41, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- This proposal seems reasonable, though I would suggest deleting Category:Vishnu Temple. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Vishnu Temple, Grand Canyon and contents restored. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
The liturgical color is on the Wikipedia described as more specifically violet. I think this category should redirect to violet vestments. Vera (talk) 11:09, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- @1Veertje: You are right; OK with me. --Concord (talk) 12:20, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- PS: to stay consistent, same should happen to Category:Purple antependia. --Concord (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2019 (UTC) Oh, already done... --12:24, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Done. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
This request is a continuation of work to reduce the number of categories for the Americas. (See Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/01/Category:Establishments in the Americas by year for previous effort.) Above I have linked two existing open discussions for categories that I would have included here. Please comment on those discussions as well.
The categories nominated here mostly contain only subcategories for North America and South America (example: Category:1863 in the Americas). The only other thing in any of them is subcategories that contain only the North/South subcategories (example: Category:History of the Americas by century). For each category nominated, I don't believe there is a need to have a category for the Americas as a whole.
List of categories included in this request:
- Category:History of the Americas by century
- Category:Americas by year
- Category:1850 in the Americas
- Category:1851 in the Americas
- Category:1852 in the Americas
- Category:1853 in the Americas
- Category:1854 in the Americas
- Category:1855 in the Americas
- Category:1856 in the Americas
- Category:1857 in the Americas
- Category:1858 in the Americas
- Category:1859 in the Americas
- Category:1860 in the Americas
- Category:1861 in the Americas
- Category:1862 in the Americas
- Category:1863 in the Americas
- Category:1864 in the Americas
- Category:1865 in the Americas
- Category:1866 in the Americas
- Category:1868 in the Americas
- Category:1869 in the Americas
- Category:1888 in the Americas
- Category:1893 in the Americas
- Category:1970 in the Americas
- Category:1971 in the Americas
- Category:1972 in the Americas
- Category:1973 in the Americas
- Category:1974 in the Americas
- Category:1975 in the Americas
- Category:1976 in the Americas
- Category:1977 in the Americas
- Category:1978 in the Americas
- Category:1979 in the Americas
- Category:2000 in the Americas
- Category:2001 in the Americas
- Category:2002 in the Americas
- Category:2003 in the Americas
- Category:2004 in the Americas
- Category:2005 in the Americas
- Category:2006 in the Americas
- Category:2007 in the Americas
- Category:2008 in the Americas
- Category:2009 in the Americas
- Category:2010 in the Americas
- Category:2011 in the Americas
- Category:2012 in the Americas
- Category:2013 in the Americas
- Category:2014 in the Americas
- Category:2015 in the Americas
- Category:2016 in the Americas
- Category:Monuments and memorials in the Americas
- Category:Views of the Americas
-- Auntof6 (talk) 09:25, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. We do not need additional categorisation level between "Category:<TOPIC> by continent" and "Category:<TOPIC> in/of <CONTINENT>". ––Apalsola t • c 14:57, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- I also agree that categorization by supercontinent is not helpful. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:54, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, eliminating this extra level is consistent with several earlier discussions. Josh (talk) 21:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed just too much Robby (talk) 21:14, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like consensus to me, Auntof6. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Looks like consensus to me, Auntof6. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Closing: all cats deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:05, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
This category was created by an IP editor and subsequently moved to a more "consistent" title by another editor. Missing is the fact that Hyder is a town of approximately 80 people, so therefore "downtown" is hardly going to be distinguishable from the town as a whole. Both parent categories are lightly populated, so this category effectively exists to segregate rather than effectively organize any content it may contain. RadioKAOS (talk) 01:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Should be renamed Category:Rocket engines in the Museum of Space and Missile Technology (Saint Petersburg) for correct grammar and spelling. Josh (talk) 15:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Grammar and capitalization are non-controversial. Done. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Rename Category:RD-0214 to match actual designation. Unfortunately, the leading zero can make all of the difference between different items for some of these designations. Josh (talk) 16:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
No opposition. Redirected. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
This and its subcat, a wrong spelling or troll? Roy17 (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted in favour of Category:Cerebrum. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-21 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-21 Robby (talk) 14:52, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Robby: Can you help me understand why you want to merge Category:LST-21 (ship, 1943) into Category:USS LST-21, but merge Category:USS LST-32 into Category:LST-32 (ship, 1943)? Shouldn't we be using one standard? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: the only reason to make the conversion the other way would be that there are no files to be moved this way. But I agree with you that it will be preferable to have a harmonized (standard) approach. Robby (talk) 09:29, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Merged. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-3 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-3 Robby (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- Merged into Category:USS LST-3. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-4 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-4 Robby (talk) 15:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Merged. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:21, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- Also two subcats: Category:SVG cholesterol synthesis + Category:SVG cholesterol
Similar situation to Commons:Categories for discussion/2017/11/Category:SVG pharmacologic agents + Commons_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry#SVG_categories. I see no reason for creating categories for SVG chemical structures only. Wostr (talk) 17:51, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete for the reasons stated. --Leyo 12:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete the corresponding ones, merge as many as possible. --Allforrous (talk) 23:08, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination! Chem Sim 2001 (disc) 10:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted.--Roy17 (talk) 18:57, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Isn't this the same as Category:Kites? Apocheir (talk) 21:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Appears to be. Maybe we could makes this a dab cat: there are a few things that could go in it: Category:Deltoids, Category:Kites, and Category:Desert kite – Archaeology site. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:07, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Not to mention all of these: en:Kite (bird). - Themightyquill (talk) 13:58, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Disambiguated, feel free to add any kites I missed. I merged the bands, too. --rimshottalk 22:06, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
See Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by PEAK99 Thyj (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Thyj: This category still has files in it. I think you have to nominate the files for deletion (a separate process) first. After they're gone and the category is empty, then the category can be deleted using the {{Empty page}} template. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, empty after deleting copyvios. --rimshottalk 22:11, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Should be deleted. — Elvaube ?! 19:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. Empty category, and Category:Leuchtturm Barßel contains no images of the interior. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 22:17, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
spam-category: files previously in the category: File:Dunajec żwir.jpg, File:Ładowarka Ł-34 01.jpg uploaded not by authors of this category. Sławek Borewicz (talk) 15:15, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 22:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
There is no need for a redirect from this category to the new one; I forgot to untick the box when redirecting it. Yupik (talk) 15:10, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 22:27, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Who is this guy ? Both of these are nominated for deletion Eatcha (talk) 23:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Recommend waiting for the outcome of the file nominations. When this category is empty, it can be deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:17, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, empty. --rimshottalk 22:32, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
too vague name, without location specification. recommend deletion. RomanM82 (talk) 17:39, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:44, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:Emmanouil Stefanoudakis (the files have been moved there Robby (talk) 21:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Robby: Would it be reasonable to make this page a redirect instead of deleting? --Auntof6 (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe redirecting would be the better solution. Robby (talk) 22:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Redirected. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:45, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
What the hell? Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:25, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I must agree, it's not a concept that seems to matter to the general populace. In short, it seems to be a made-up idea. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Either that or we're going to need categories for restaurants at street level, the mezzanine, the sky lobby, etc. etc. The only one I can see being justifable is for restaurants at the top of tall buildings, which I assume we already have. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you see a reason for gastronomy on top you can't refuse the other end. The top tells from luxary the cellar give spare for creative and of course also for poor gastronomy in expansive cities.
- And what is a "basement"? More than half the restaurants on Restaurant Row in Manhattan are below street level, and they are no more or less "creative" than any other randomly selected group of restaurants. Nor are they cheap, they'll cost you as much as other restaurants on the same street that happen to be a street level. The category is, in fact, tells us nothing about these restaurants except that someone thinks they're in a "basement". Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:46, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Again, what the hell is this? Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted per Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/07/Category:Basement Gastronomy. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:47, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Rename to Category:Ottoman clock (Mexico City) as the parent location category is Category:Mexico City Josh (talk) 16:29, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- That makes sense, though I'd prefer Category:Ottoman clock, Mexico City. I'm not a big fan of the parentheses for location. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:21, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Ottoman clock, Mexico City. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
This category should be deleted or renamed and recategorized. There are a lot of different portraits of Alexander Hamilton by John Trumbull, many of which are very similar. (This category mixes at least two -- see differences in neckwear.) Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:45, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi there! I do agree with your point - the portraits are very similar but not identical. My own preference would be to have one category per unique painting, something along the lines of Gilbert Stuart's portraits of George Washington. with all best wishes, Daderot (talk) 11:10, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Daderot: Whether you make those categories or not, this category is not helpful for that purpose. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:28, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Deleted in favour of Category:Paintings of Alexander Hamilton by John Trumbull. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Should it follow its parent and Category:Voice of America videos by language and be renamed voa audio files in English? Roy17 (talk) 13:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. To be clear that we're not talking about files from England (or France), "in English" or "in French" would be better. Alternately, "English-language audio files" - Themightyquill (talk) 09:17, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Voice of America audio files in English and Category:Voice of America audio files in French. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
marcus mosiah garvey 173.225.242.132 20:50, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- What are we discussing? RichardWeiss (talk) 09:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- Technically, his full name is Marcus Mosiah Garvey, Jr., but I think Marcus Garvey is common usage and unambiguous. I don't think anything needs to change. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
Redirect created at Category:Marcus Mosiah Garvey, Jr.. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:14, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Yan Xishan is "Person" and not "Mountain". I really cannot believe why anyone would regard him as an mountain.--Kai3952 (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- By the way, there is the "Yan Xishan's Tomb" category on Wikimedia.Commons that can replace it.--Kai3952 (talk) 21:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Deleted as empty by Túrelio - Themightyquill (talk) 09:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-22 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-22 Robby (talk) 15:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Merged into Category:LST-22 (ship, 1943), following pattern requested at Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/07/Category:USS LST-32. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:LST-32 (ship, 1943) I suggest to merge this category into Category:LST-32 (ship, 1943) Robby (talk) 16:14, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Merged into Category:LST-32 (ship, 1943) as requested. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
What's the relation of this and Category:Fritters? Their wp items are both linked to fritter (Q690292). Roy17 (talk) 21:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- A beignet is a type of french/beglian fritter, and a beignet aux pommes is one with apples. They shouldn't have the same wikidata link. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Roy17: Are we okay to close discussion? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:23, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: the problem is, fr:Beignet aux pommes -> fritter (Q690292) -> Category:Fritters, but Commons also has a cat for the French thing.
- A logical step to take is linking the page with the homonymous cat, or if the French term is equivalent, merge the cats, but I dont know a thing about this French food.--Roy17 (talk) 10:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Roy17: Are we okay to close discussion? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:23, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Roy17: I think I've now fixed the wikidata problem. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Problem solved by creation of Beignets aux pommes (Q73740415).--Roy17 (talk) 13:12, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
No FoP in Ukraine. Created after 1976. No Permission from the sculptor. Микола Василечко (talk) 17:00, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- You probably need to nominate the files then, if they are deleted then this will be deleted as empty although this CFD might establish that the sculpture its self shouldn't have images. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry. Error in the nomination. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:В.Н. Дружинина могила.jpg. --Микола Василечко (talk) 13:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Done Files and category deleted as empty Gbawden (talk) 11:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
- List of files
- File:80-361-0467 Kyiv Baykove cemetery SAM 1646.jpg
- File:Дружинін.jpg
- File:Київ, Байкове, Могила Дружиніна В. М., Героя Радянського Союзу.jpg
- File:Могила Героя Советского Союза В. Дружинина.JPG
- File:Могила Дружиніна В. М.,.JPG
- File:Могила Дружиніна В. М., Героя Радянського союзу Байкове.JPG
- One deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:В.Н. Дружинина могила.jpg
_ list added by JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:25, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Empty Category Naturiss (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- It isn't empty now. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:01, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: no longer empty. --ƏXPLICIT 02:54, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Same as Category:Sandra Reehs. Piotr Bart (talk) 20:53, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Keep Not the same purpose : subcat of Category:Photographs by Flickr photographer --TwoWings * to talk or not to talk... 09:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 02:56, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
The category description makes clear the distinction between Category:Women of ancient Greece (specific people) and Category:Ancient Greek women (unknown/anonymous women) but I wonder if it could be made clearer in the category titles, to help people find the right place for images. Any ideas? Themightyquill (talk) 10:13, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Very simple. "Women of ancient Greece" are all the women they are famous in the Greek history and litterature; and then other anonymous women whose name, however, is known by inscriptions (most part funerary inscriptions). All other anonymous women that we know only in art, by vase paintings or marble reliefs, are "Ancient Greek women". --DenghiùComm (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, as I stated, the distinction is made quite clear in the category description, but the category titles don't make it immediately clear. I was hoping we might find better wording. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- What about Category:Women in ancient Greece or Category:Women of ancient Greece for anonymous women and subcategory Category:Women of ancient Greece by name for specific women? - Themightyquill (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you do these difficulties. If one does not understand the difference, just open one of the two categories and it is explained. And it also finds a reference to the other category. What do we still want to discuss about? If these names are such a big problem, then change the name of the category Category:Ancient Greek women to Category:Ancient Greek anonymous women or Category:Ancient Greek unknown women. Best regards, --DenghiùComm (talk) 07:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Systems of categorization are meant to use consistent naming to help people find what they want. Making a thousand unnecessray variations with explanatory notes is not helpful. We have Category:Women by country and Category:Women by name, so Category:Women of ancient Greece by name is consistent. We don't have Category:Anonymous women or Category:Unknown women so your suggestions are inconsistent. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Commons is a project that is organized in a certain way, and seeks to have a logical and coherent structure. But he will never be perfect. There are exceptions. Here we have an example. In the mess of files of ancient Greek art we are full of representations of unknown or anonymous women. I did a great job distinguishing the files in the two categories that I found. What is your proposal? To put everything back together known and unknown women? You can do it, you are an admin. But is this useful? --DenghiùComm (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- No, my proposal is to put all the anonymous content in either Category:Women in ancient Greece or Category:Women of ancient Greece, and put the non-anonymous content in a sub-category, Category:Women of ancient Greece by name. Commons is fullof images of unknown or anonymous women (from all over the world), but none of them are in categories named "anonymous women". There's no need for an exception here. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- "Women IN ancient Greece" is not useful, because the ancient Greece area arrived until South Italy (Magna Graecia), Turkey (Asia Minor), etc. --DenghiùComm (talk) 10:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- No, my proposal is to put all the anonymous content in either Category:Women in ancient Greece or Category:Women of ancient Greece, and put the non-anonymous content in a sub-category, Category:Women of ancient Greece by name. Commons is fullof images of unknown or anonymous women (from all over the world), but none of them are in categories named "anonymous women". There's no need for an exception here. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- Commons is a project that is organized in a certain way, and seeks to have a logical and coherent structure. But he will never be perfect. There are exceptions. Here we have an example. In the mess of files of ancient Greek art we are full of representations of unknown or anonymous women. I did a great job distinguishing the files in the two categories that I found. What is your proposal? To put everything back together known and unknown women? You can do it, you are an admin. But is this useful? --DenghiùComm (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- Then Category:Women of ancient Greece is okay for anonymous women? - Themightyquill (talk) 13:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I Agree with your proposal that Women by name became subcat of Women of ancient Greece. --DenghiùComm (talk) 08:19, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Currently the category tree here is a bit of a mess. Category:Women of ancient Greece is for specific women with known identities, and Category:Ancient Greek women is for anonymous/non-specific women, which is fine, but then Category:Famous women in ancient Greek pottery is a subcat of both category trees. I suspect this is because, though the category descriptions make the distinction clear, the category names do not. So I Agree with Themightyquill's proposal to have Category:Women of ancient Greece with Category:Women of ancient Greece by name as a subcat, which looks to me to be a clear improvement. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 23:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Redirected Category:Ancient Greek women to Category:Women of ancient Greece. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
I think this category should be renamed to Category:Military documents by war, because that is the purpose it's actually serving based on its contents, and it's unclear what "war documents" would be outside of that when viewed from the parent Category:Military documents. – BMacZero (🗩) 16:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. That would match both the parent and the subcategories, as well as Category:Categories by war. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:27, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- @BMacZero: I'm not sure all of these are military documents though. Category:Documents by war? - Themightyquill (talk) 12:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Yeah, I think you're right there. That may mean a parallel category tree Category:Military documents by war should be created, or at least Category:Military documents associated with World War I etc. – BMacZero (🗩) 15:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @BMacZero: I'm not sure all of these are military documents though. Category:Documents by war? - Themightyquill (talk) 12:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Documents by war. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:16, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Category has not name of eng. Wikipedia Article. And now not used. At moment twice. Riquix (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I went ahead and requested deletion of this still-empty category, the apparent correct category being Category:Disciples of Ramakrishna. – BMacZero (🗩) 02:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
It's unofficial and all the flags' design never written in the Indonesian Constitution 180.248.28.59 02:11, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Are flags usually written in the constitution? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:09, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Let's keep the discussion together, shall we: Commons:Categories for discussion/2017/02/Category:Flags of provinces of Indonesia. We'll likely repeat arguments otherwise. Cycn (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Not done: Duplicate of earlier, still undecided discussion (see link to 2017/02). --Pitke (talk) 12:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Two problems:
- it seems that B is not capitalised.
- since the actual brand name is Citybus and the company name is Citybus Limited, HK as a modifier for disambiguation should be in parentheses.
Reference: http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/company/history/index.aspx?intLangID=1
HK users' opinions would be very helpful.--Roy17 (talk) 18:34, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Further evidence: Googling "Citybus site:scmp.com" shows only one kind of capitalisation. It seems right to rename to Citybus (Hong Kong).--Roy17 (talk) 03:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: "Citybus" is the official capitalisation; place disambiguations for non-places should be in parentheses. --Pitke (talk) 13:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Sinking of the side trawler Manuel-Joël in the Bassin des Chalutiers (March 2017) Jpbazard (talk) 21:32, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand. Was this nominated by accident? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Jpbazard: Can you explain further what should be done to this category? – BMacZero (🗩) 02:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Closing, nothing to act on. – BMacZero (🗩) 01:48, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Do we need this subcat? Most student papers are college-level. There could be high school level ones, but is there any notable for wikipedia? As such, IMO this subcat is redundant and can be merged up into student newspapers, just like enwp. Roy17 (talk) 11:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agree, this doesn't need to be a subcategory. Also agree high school papers are probably not notable, but we might actually have some here already. Internet Archive has a lot of 100+ year old student newspapers, catalogs and yearbooks that are in the public domain and have been batch uploaded to Commons, including high school level ones. If needed, we can create something like Category:High school newspapers as the subcategory here. Thx Ruff tuff cream puff (talk) 03:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support merging into Student newspapers. Based on all the college newspapers currently located in the parent category, it seems the distinction is confusing to many Commons editors, and it really doesn't provide much value. But this is definitely a decision that might be worth revisiting in the future if our student newspaper collection grows massively. –IagoQnsi (talk) 21:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:College newspapers is now redirected to Category:Student newspapers.--Roy17 (talk) 18:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
This doesn't fit well in our category tree. Would it be weird to move to Category:International relations of Ancient Rome, in Category:International relations by former country ? Themightyquill (talk) 10:32, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete this nonsense. Bad name, bad categorization. Plus: All peoples in Ancient peoples cats are the same in nature. No reason for positive discrimination to Rome. E4024 (talk) 15:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delete category name "enemies and allies" is unique in Commons database, and subjective. Maybe some of them can be re-categorized to user:Themightyquill's suggested, but not yet created Category:International relations of Ancient Rome,--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:20, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Deleted per consensus. -- Themightyquill (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
I'd like to move this category to "Waterfront Park (Charleston)". The correct name of the park is Waterfront Park. There is already a wiki page called Waterfront Park (Charleston). Mjrmtg (talk) 23:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- The current name may qualify as natural disambiguation but its not clear if it's sufficently common to suffice, either way this should probably be done on Wikipedia first and the category here match it thus a Support rename. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:52, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Stale discussion. Is renamed Estopedist1 (talk) 12:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Category twice. Vivekananda was his disciple and have own category. Riquix (talk) 05:01, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Done: per discussion. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:47, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
"München-Schwabing" should be replaced by "Schwabing" as the place name, the Munich part being unnecessary disambiguation as the parent category for the place is just Category:Schwabing. Pursuant to this previous CfD. Josh (talk) 17:17, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Replaced. Seems uncontroversial Estopedist1 (talk) 12:47, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Rename to Category:St. Augustinus (Trudering) to match parent location category Category:Trudering. Josh (talk) 18:11, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Replaced. Seems uncontroversial Estopedist1 (talk) 12:50, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
User:Yasu offerd to rename on 22 June 2019. "Mount Misen" is a redundant term since sen can be translated as "mountain"
Oppose I oppose a proposal to move from Mount Misen (Nara) to Misen (Nara). The Mountain is officially called "Mt. Misen" by the Government of Japan. And public organizations are same as the above-mentioned. This way. Nara National Museum Japan Travel And Tourism Association--A photographer (talk) 13:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose --Estopedist1 (talk) 12:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
I propose deleting this category because it doesn't contain what the name says. A category with this name should contain subcategories such as "Pottery by <ancient Greek potter>", but it doesn't. Instead, it contains a category for potters (not their pottery) and vase-painters (who are not necessarily potters). Auntof6 (talk) 07:33, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. This makes little sense. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:36, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose, ofcourse. Ancient potters are only to describe about their work. Ofcourrse here is just pottery to find. And vase-painters have worked with the sme material. I would like to brig an arguement against deletion, but I can't see any cause, why there's even just a small possebility to delete this. On the contrary, I would ask you to stay away from a coherent system, even you don't understand it! -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:37, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Firstly, it isn't coherent if no one can understand it but the person who created it. Second, no one is suggesting deleting the whole category tree, just this one category. The sub-categories Category:Ancient Greek potters and Category:Ancient Greek vase-painters both fit more reasonably in Category:Ancient Greek pottery. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:17, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Only because of you two don't understand means not, other people don't understand. It's the usual categotization in the scientific literature in this field. Once more: people who don't understand, should keep their fingers out of the system! -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Firstly, it isn't coherent if no one can understand it but the person who created it. Second, no one is suggesting deleting the whole category tree, just this one category. The sub-categories Category:Ancient Greek potters and Category:Ancient Greek vase-painters both fit more reasonably in Category:Ancient Greek pottery. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:17, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment The way I understand it, this structure considers both the potters who made the pottery and the painters to be artists, which sounds reasonable to me. The subcategories contain the works the potters and painters produced, so I think the current structure serves the purpose it was created for, though perhaps some though is needed on the naming of the subcategories? Richard Nevell (talk) 17:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- could we rename it "Ancient Greek pottery artists"?--Alexmar983 (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Just checked the British Museum and Met Museum catalogs and also the Beazley archive to see how they organize the painters/potters and they also group them together under the heading artist/maker. The reason for this is that in some cases the painter and potter are identical, i.e. same person made and painted a pot. I'd keep the "by artist" to fit the other subcategories. --Amalaswintha08 (talk) 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I agree that this category doesn't make a lot of sense, and I fail to see how there is any kind of technical jargon or anything like that here that a layman shouldn't expect to understand. I would favor upmerging, but am amenable to Alexmar983's solution failing that. – BMacZero (🗩) 02:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. Subcategories moved to Category:Ancient Greek pottery, as none of them were about specific artists. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:12, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
This category is empty and is redundant as "Category:Streets in Bruges" covers the same content. MJJR (talk) 19:42, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. I'd rather see this category populated by moving the named street categories here from Category:Streets in Bruges. That's a better option because Category:Streets in Bruges contains different types of subcategories. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:33, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- Directly related to this: there are also alleys without a name, would a Category:Alleys without a name or Category:Nameless alleys in Bruges make sense? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Are those alleys currently in a category that I can look at? Are they alleys that really have no name, as opposed to alleys whose names we don't know? If no alleys in Bruges have names, they it could probably just be Category:Alleys in Bruges. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: , they really have no name at all, for example: this dead end alley (entrance at the Noordzandstraat), called Nunnegat is one example. Lotje (talk) 05:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Well, if you're going to make a category for them, I would just make it without mentioning that they don't have names. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:56, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: , they really have no name at all, for example: this dead end alley (entrance at the Noordzandstraat), called Nunnegat is one example. Lotje (talk) 05:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Are those alleys currently in a category that I can look at? Are they alleys that really have no name, as opposed to alleys whose names we don't know? If no alleys in Bruges have names, they it could probably just be Category:Alleys in Bruges. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Directly related to this: there are also alleys without a name, would a Category:Alleys without a name or Category:Nameless alleys in Bruges make sense? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think that it's a good idea to move all the named street categories from Category:Streets in Bruges to Category:Streets in Bruges by name. First of all: most towns have a category "Streets in (town name)", so why make an exception for Bruges? Secondly: also the dead end alleys and other small roads, even if they don't have a name, can fit in the Category:Streets in Bruges. Please don't make things more complex than necessary. The Category:Streets in Bruges is working well and needs no changes. -- MJJR (talk) 09:32, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Keep There's lots of room for subcategorization of these streets in Category:Streets in Bruges by type, neighbourhood, etc. I think the "by name" subcategory makes perfect sense. Sure, not every city has a "Streets in X by name" category, but many cities don't have so many street categories. Category:Streets in Budapest, for instance, doesn't hold the hundreds of street names in the city as well as subcategorization by district. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Keep seems to be rather common pratice, see eg Category:Streets by city by name--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Kept per usage and discussion. For cities having large numbers of street subcategories, "by name" can make sense, improving navigation and usefulness. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
this and subcats should use kindergartens, the English plural form? Roy17 (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Kindergarten in English can be either a countable or noncountable noun, as well as an adjective, just like the word school, so it doesn't necessarily need to be plural. ("Kindergarten" itself is not plural.) For example, you can talk about school uniforms (using school as an adjective) or you can say "There are three schools in the town" (meaning individual school buildings). I think the categories for former ones could be changed to be plural, maybe even to "kindergarten buildings". Do you see any others? --Auntof6 (talk) 17:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: ...it's my fault that I did not make it explicitly clear I was referring to the relevant subcats, whereby kindergarten is not used as a noun modifier. Kindergarten is a kind of school just like primary school, college... So it should not be kindergarten buildings either.--Roy17 (talk) 18:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Kindergarten can be uncountable, so I'm okay with Category:Kindergarten but it shouldn't be in Category:Preschools if it's uncountable, but Category:Preschool or Category:Preschool education. Category:Kindergarten by country should be Category:Kindergartens by country for the schools themselves. Anything related to kindergarten or other ECE generally (graphs, regulations, etc) in a specific country can go in Category:Preschool in X. Thoughts? - Themightyquill (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- for the organisations, let's use the current structure and move to plural forms.
- for the abstract concept and the system, how about simply Category:Early childhood education? it encapsulates any kind of education before primary school.--Roy17 (talk) 23:52, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
in addition from category talk:Kindergarten: user:L.Willms (related also user:Chenspec) also mentions Category:Child day care centers. Seems to be terminological puzzle, see eg enwiki en:Preschool#Terminology.--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- English is not my native language, so I do not feel comfortable interfering with syntactic considerations. In this respect, all the options referred to in the previous are fine with me. At the content level, at least in the Hebrew language - there can be a difference between kindergarten and day care. Kindergarten does refer to an educational institution, but daycare can also serve as a description of a place that looks after children on a more technical level, especially after kindergarten hours - in the afternoon when children are usually asleep. The daycare can also provide activity for children, they can be educational, but the activity can also be for entertainment purposes. Because daycare can also be an educational institution, I'm not sure how much emphasis should be placed on this distinction. But I felt the need to point this out and maybe it is worth checking to see if there is such a difference elsewhere as well. Chenspec (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Since "commons" is just about collecting media, mainly images, but is not the place for discerning the various concepts of — in this context — child care outside the parent's home, I am only interested to find a category tree to place images I have made and find those made by others of child care centers or kindergartens or how ever that might be called. Kindergarten is originally a German word, and has been adopted in English, I believe especially in US english, as a foreign word. I don't know and even don't care if there is a plural "kindergartens" in English; in German the plural is "Kindergärten", the "a" in Garten (garden) mutating to an "ä", a umlaut. As far as I can see, in German the term "Kindergarten" is more or less used for any kind of out of house child care during day time, i.e. where children are only during the day but do not spend the night separated from their parents. In Frankfurt/Main, where I happen to live, these are called "Kindertagesstätte" (child day [care] institution, or center). So I was a little bit confused when I searched for a category for my photo of "Kindertagesstätte Grethenweg", looking first for the generic term "child care center", but found a larger tree under "Kindergarten", and even per country and for Germany per federal state (Land, Bundesland). --L.Willms (talk) 09:41, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
It is interesting to see how one word can mean so many different things to people in different parts of the world. In the modern United States, kindergarten is not seen as a childcare center at all. Instead, it is usually the first year of elementary (primary) school, and it is seen as a grade level, just like first grade and second grade. In kindergarten, students learn to read, write, count to 100, add, subtract, and graph; seeing it called a childcare center or pre-primary education looks silly to an American. In fact, many kindergarteners and older elementary school students in the United States go to separate daycare centers before and after school if their parents can't pick them up. As for the plural, it seems to be used for schools that contain only kindergarten, something which doesn't exist here. Category:Kindergarten should definitely not be moved to Category:Kindergartens because it contains media for many different topics related to kindergarten, not just pictures of schools that contain only kindergarten. However, subcategories of Category:Kindergarten by country and Category:Kindergarten by city for places where kindergarten typically is located in a separate school should probably be titled in the form Category:Kindergartens in X. Additionally, kindergarten-related categories should be categorized in multiple places (such as with primary education, with childcare centers, with preschools, and with early childhood education) so that people who associate the word with different things will still be able to find it. Evil Sith Lord (talk) 20:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Closed, not moved per discussion -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
IMHO the cats should be harmonised. I think we should categorise nationalists by the nation they support in the format demonym nationalists (special case: Zionists, whereby the word nationalist can be omitted). Then these nationalists could be categorised by real-life countries they come from, e.g. Zionists from US/UK, Palestinian nationalists from US/UK... Nationalists from XYZ would be an umbrella of all demonym nationalists from XYZ. Roy17 (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Proposed structure:
Nationalists
- |- Nationalists by country
- |- Nationalists from ABC
- |- ABC-an nationalists from ABC
- |- XYZ-an nationalists from ABC
- |- Nationalists from XYZ
- |- ABC-an nationalists from XYZ
- |- XYZ-an nationalists from XYZ
- |- Nationalists from ABC
- |- Nationalists by nation? ethnic group? idea?
- |- ABC-an nationalists
- |- (ABC-an nationalists by country)
- |- ABC-an nationalists from ABC
- |- ABC-an nationalists from XYZ
- |- (ABC-an nationalists by country)
- |- XYZ-an nationalists
- |- ABC-an nationalists
... --Roy17 (talk) 13:40, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
stale discussion. @Roy17: seems to be a tough CFD. Could enwiki en:Category:Nationalists give some ideas?--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:31, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- The question here is how to intersect two ideas: the nationality of the person and the ideology the person supports.
- For example, what should be the category for an American citizen that supports the Scottish nation?
- My proposal would be, "Scottish nationalists from the United States", which has two parent cats "Scottish nationalists" and "Nationalists from the United States". Roy17 (talk) 15:59, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- I intend to close this discussion by adopting this format:
- Nationalists
- Nationalists by country of origin
- Nationalists from Canada
- (Nationalists from Canada by nation)
- American nationalists from Canada
- Canadian nationalists from Canada
- (Nationalists from Canada by nation)
- Nationalists from the United States
- (Nationalists from the United States by nation)
- American nationalists from the United States
- Canadian nationalists from the United States
- (Nationalists from the United States by nation)
- Nationalists from Canada
- Nationalists by nation
- American nationalists
- (American nationalists by country of origin)
- American nationalists from Canada
- American nationalists from the United States
- (American nationalists by country of origin)
- Canadian nationalists
- American nationalists
- Nationalists by country of origin
- Roy17 (talk) 19:17, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
The proposed category scheme is largely implemented, so closing the discussion. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 17:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
merge and rename everything to Category:Cultural history Roy17 (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Please also take a look at Commons:Help desk#History of culture? Cultural history?. Thanks--Kai3952 (talk) 02:01, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Roy17 I agree. --Benzoyl (talk) 22:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- What to do about Category:Traditions ? Also, merge to Category:Cultural history ? --Benzoyl (talk) 01:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I thought. Working on it now. --Sanya3 (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Closed, no media nor subcats, made into a redirect to Category:Cultural history back in 2021, which seems appropriate. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
which preposition to use? Category:Food by country is largely food of XX country, but in this most are food in YY city. Personally I prefer of. Roy17 (talk) 15:54, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
- Of and in don't mean the same thing. Are we categorizing by origin or by location? Or, most likely, as mixture of the two? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
stale discussion. Should be categorization by location, hence - we should use "in"--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Estopedist1 to use "in". Roy17 (talk) 16:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Closed, nothing needs doing with this parent category. ("In" should be used when referring to location where photographed. "Of" suggests for things originating in a place - if used rather than "from" the meaning should be specified.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:USS LST-31 I suggest to merge this category into Category:USS LST-31 Robby (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Robby: sounds reasonable move, because enwiki article name is en:USS LST-31. Or has Commons its own naming policy for ships?--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:42, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Merged and redirected per nom. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
I think the category should be renamed to just "Hammersmith". As far as I am aware, there is only one other Hammersmith, a tiny village in Derbyshire which is not notable. Also, the Wikipedia article is simply called Hammersmith ElshadK (talk) 17:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. The idea of having a primary topic with an unqualified name doesn't work well on Commons for multiple reasons. It works on Wikipedia because the contents of the article tell you which entity it is about: as soon as you read the first sentence or two, you will know if it's the article you want. On Commons, however, looking at the content of a category won't necessarily make that clear: the main content of a category is images, and some things look pretty much the same wherever they are (trees, streets, buildings, etc.).
- That's just when looking at categories. It gets worse when assigning categories. Categories get assigned by both people and by bots. Some of the people assigning categories aren't aware of this kind of issue, and they assign any category that seems related. Bots sometimes assign categories based on any word they see in the file name, description, or keywords, whether they apply or not. If terms that apply to multiple things are set up as disambiguation categories instead of defining a "primary topic", someone can see that there's an issue with the categorization; I work on Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories all the time. To give a non-geographic example, I recently worked on some images of Mount Rushmore. Someone or some bot categorized them individually under the given names and surnames of each of the four presidents -- not the given name or surname categories, just the individual words. Some of those are disambiguation categories, but some are not. For example, Category:Lincoln is a disambiguation cat but Category:Abraham is not. Even if someone fixed the entry for the disambiguation cat, they might not notice the other one, and files could still be left in an incorrect category. If all those terms were disambiguation categories, that wouldn't happen.
- For those reasons, I think place name categories like this should be qualified, and the unqualified term should be a disambiguation cat. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- But Hammersmith is less ambiguous than Plymouth, Birmingham and Boston and even London, the Derbyshire one is so obscure that its likely that 99% of people searching or adding images to "Hammersmith" want the London one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- To me, if we can prevent one miscategorization, we should do it. Qualifying the category name helps do that. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- I would also lean toward keeping it as is. Even if there are only two places named Hammersmith, en:Hammersmith_(disambiguation) suggests were are numerous other meanings. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:33, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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| Notes | It seems like there isn't a consensus to change the name and this has been open for multiple years without a comment. So I'm closing it as "no consensus." I think "Hammersmith, London" fits with the universality principle anyway. | |||
| Closed by | --Adamant1 (talk) 03:53, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
German language category contrary to Commons:Categories Ies (talk) 10:30, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Ies: parent is Category:Crafts of Germany, so logical would be Category:Crafts of Plau am See, but maybe better is Category:Crafts in Plau am See?--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:54, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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| Notes | It seems the category has already been redirected to Category:Crafts in Plau am See. So I'm closing this as pointless. | |||
| Closed by | --Adamant1 (talk) 03:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||
No one seems to remember why images in this category should be checked, as per [4]. I suggest a robot should merge Category:Photographs_by_Eva_Rinaldi_(check_needed) into Category:Photographs_by_Eva_Rinaldi. Geo Swan (talk) 10:58, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support I racked up hundreds of thousands of edits cleaning up Russavia's "check categories" crap. Btw, 5,645 files.. Don't need bot for that. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Two years later. @Geo Swan and Alexis Jazz: yes no need for a bot, Cat-a-lot does the job. Just in case, I ask, are there objections against this upmerging?--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:37, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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| Consensus | Up-merge the images to Category:Photographs by Eva Rinaldi | |||
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| Closed by | --Adamant1 (talk) 01:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC) | |||