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Archive February 2018
"White Brine Cheese" - capitalized, from Bulgaria. If there is a special "white brine cheese" in Bulgaria, it may have its own cat with its "local" name; a translation into English must not cover similar cheeses from other countries. If not so, that cannot be under "Bulgaria". E4024 (talk) 08:12, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- See en:Sirene. White Brine Cheese is a generic term for a cheese common in the Balkans are surrounding area, including what you call Beyaz peynir. It's a bit tricky when one kind of food comes from several countries. We could create Category:White brine cheese from Bulgaria which would solve the issue with the Bulgarian parental category, but Category:White Brine Cheese could legitimately be a child category of Category:Food of Croatia, Category:Food of Serbia, Category:Food of Romania (etc.) too. I would suggest putting Category:White Brine Cheese in Category:Food from the Balkans, and making Category:Feta and Category:Beyaz peynir subcategories. Category:White brine cheese from Bulgaria might be a good idea too. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Category:White Brine Cheese moved to Category:Food from the Balkans. Subcategory Category:White brine cheese from Bulgaria also created. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:58, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Should be "Category:Wrong Wikidata ID in authority control data: category item" (Wikidata is cpatalised; it's an ID, not a "code") Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:23, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Ditto Category:Pages with locations and wikidata code to wrong type of entry ->
Category:Pages with locations and Wikidata ID to wrong type of entryAndy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:24, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Agree I will change it. --Jarekt (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Done --Jarekt (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Merge to Category:AK 1-3 (helicopter) and Category:Aerokopter AK1-3 Sanka to Category:Aerokopter AK1-3 Themightyquill (talk) 09:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Merged. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:20, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete as redundant to Category:Bloomers, listed as a synonmy at en:Bloomers (clothing) Themightyquill (talk) 10:58, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Reform dress is not synonymous with bloomers. There is more than bloomers categorized in the Category:Reform dress. The Category:Reform dress could be synonymous to Category:Reform clothing though. Category:Reform dress could also be renamed to Category:Reform dresses, as subcategory to the Category:Reform clothing. The movement to reform clothes was not the same in every country and every language of Wikipedia. Dress reform and reform clothing is linked to w:Victorian dress reform; de:Reformkleidung; w:Lebensreform and nl:Reformbeweging. Movements of the 19th century that were about health and fashion, lyfestyle, emancipation of women and other subjects. Not all related languages have articles on all of these subjects yet. There also seems to be little uniformity in categorization between the languages and or lack of categorization of articles and files troughout the projects. - Aiko (talk) 12:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Aiko. I was confused by the wikipedia article, as to whether it was using dress as in "a dress" or dress as in "clothing." If it's the latter, then can we redirect it to Category:Reform clothing? If there's a need for Category:Reform dresses is can be created separately. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:11, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Fine with me. - Aiko (talk) 09:12, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Reform clothing. Category:Reform dresses can be created as a sub-category if need be. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:49, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Should be Category:Logos associated with food and drink in Italy for coherence with other categories of the same kind. Moreover, the logos in this category are not solely related to food, but also to drink (e.g. Lavazza). Ruthven (msg) 08:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- ok --Lalupa (talk) 10:24, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Logos associated with food and drink in Italy. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
empty category Ehrlich91 (talk) 13:41, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Kept and redirected. --Achim (talk) 18:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
empty category Ehrlich91 (talk) 10:45, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- I've tagged it with {{Empty page}}. @Ehrlich91: Using the empty page template is an easier way to deal with this kind of situation, and it doesn't require discussion. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Thanks a lot for this template, I will use it in next similar situations :) --Ehrlich91 (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Ehrlich91: You're welcome. Similarly useful templates are {{Bad name}} (which can be used for any kind of page) and {{Category renamed}}. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Thanks a lot for this template, I will use it in next similar situations :) --Ehrlich91 (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing -- cat has been deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:40, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
This IP-initiated cat sounds a bit subjective to me. Not that I don't care for animals but categorizationwise looks strange. E4024 (talk) 13:10, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- There are other Animal abuse cats; therefore I will withdraw this. --E4024 (talk) 13:37, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Withdrawn by iniator.
Non English cat Afifa Afrin (talk) 16:29, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes the heading of this catagory is not written in english .. it is written in Bengali. শক্তিশেল (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- And besides that, the cat is empty. I've tagged it with {{Empty page}} to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing -- cat has been deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Please delete this Bukhari Talk 13:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I marked it as empty for deletion. --E4024 (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Speedy deleted – nothing to discuss, IMO it's even not a test page, it's a vandalism. --jdx Re: 14:17, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Self promotion by socks of the globally locked & blocked User:Chyah, meta:Special:CentralAuth/Chyah. Cabayi (talk) 17:05, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
empty category, empty for more then 5 month Robby (talk) 16:10, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, Category:Jan V Sobieslaw of Moravia as well. --Achim (talk) 19:07, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Category for deletion. Basle is just the latinised name for Basel and Category:Books published in Basel exists. Traumrune (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- How about redirecting instead, in case someone tries to use this spelling in the future? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe a redirect is better. In some very old books it says Basle for Basel. Traumrune (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Redirected to Category:Books published in Basel. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
To be deleted please, because of a typographical error NearEMPTiness (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- I tagged it with {{Bad name}} to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
DELETED. Taivo (talk) 10:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Please delete, created with wrong name by mistake. Erik den yngre (talk) 23:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted in favour of Category:Seter in Sogn og Fjordane. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
For your delete, becuase is duplicated, Category:Real Club Marítimo de Melilla MONUMENTA (talk) 14:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted in favour of Category:Real Club Marítimo de Melilla. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:04, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Double to existing category, empty after cleaning it up. Liberaler Humanist (talk) 17:29, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted user category at nomination of user. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:05, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Double to an existing user category, empty after cleaning it up. Liberaler Humanist (talk) 19:53, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted user category at nomination of user. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Double to existing user category, empty after cleaning it up. Liberaler Humanist (talk) 19:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted user category at nomination of user. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Double to existing user category, empty after cleaning it up. Please, Thanks. Liberaler Humanist (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted user category at nomination of user. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Hoax state, hoax family (see en:w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imperial house of Khora Seyal). HyperGaruda (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC) Additionally, the creator was globally locked for sockpuppetry. --HyperGaruda (talk) 06:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- @HyperGaruda: Can you please ensure that all the images are nominated for deletion? Then the category will be deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:08, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Both images are now up for deletion. I moved one out of this category, because it is an image of a supposed flag instead of a monarch. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Aaaand both images are now gone, making this an empty category. --HyperGaruda (talk) 10:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Both images are now up for deletion. I moved one out of this category, because it is an image of a supposed flag instead of a monarch. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:30, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as emtpy. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Unnecessary and/or excessive Tdorante10 (talk) 10:04, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. We might have views from a certain street corner or bridge, but the view is not different depending on which vehicle you are in. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
No opposition, and only one file. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
This Category and all its contents. Not realistically useful for an educational purpose. Redundant to a better image. Not used or linked elsewhere. Non-educational artwork uploaded to showcase the (amateurish) artist's skills. Self-promotion. (read the accompanying text). Images of poor or mediocre quality. with better examples on the Wiki already. Text reads as if it's publication is part of some sleazy chat up line by the photographer. Comprehensive violation of several guidelines in COM:PS, COM:SCOPE, COM:NOTUSED etc. BeckenhamBear (talk) 12:24, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Earlier discussions for reference User talk:Christian Ferrer#Deletion requests/File:Francesca (15216079527).jpg. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 12:30, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep Self promotion of course, but these are as well nice photos that can be used for educational purpose in one or several projects. Actually, this shouldn't be a CfD, but a DR on the photos of the category. BTW, COM:NOTUSED doesn't make any sense in this context. --Ruthven (msg) 12:35, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- I listened to the admin's call and DR'ed the worst pic in the cat. I don't know if this is meant to be a deletion discussion but I guess we can also have some weird cats. Anyway, what I don't understand well is that this cat is under Category:Glamour models. I'm not sure if we can keep unidentified models under that cat. When you say "glamour models" the bell rings only about famous models in my mind, like those that stage Victoria's Secret products with wings etc. Maybe I'm wrong about what "glamour" means. --E4024 (talk) 13:05, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for raising the DR. I'm curious what these one or more projects are that Ruthven is suggesting? Where can these self-evidently technical failures of images, of a non-noable person be useful? These images are manifestly outside of the scope of the project. --BeckenhamBear (talk) 13:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- I listened to the admin's call and DR'ed the worst pic in the cat. I don't know if this is meant to be a deletion discussion but I guess we can also have some weird cats. Anyway, what I don't understand well is that this cat is under Category:Glamour models. I'm not sure if we can keep unidentified models under that cat. When you say "glamour models" the bell rings only about famous models in my mind, like those that stage Victoria's Secret products with wings etc. Maybe I'm wrong about what "glamour" means. --E4024 (talk) 13:05, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep As long as the images exist in Commons, this category seems appropriate to group the photos of this specific model, even if the model is not a well known model. Category:Glamour models is directly linked to Glamour photography, article that include (or that can include) photo of unknown models. If the photos are of acceptable quality then we can keep the photos, therefore we can keep the category too. Such photo can illustrate article about Glamour photography both in Wikimedia projects or outside IMO. These photos are like Stock photos of acceptable quality, except this one, that's true IMO. Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:28, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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- Unbelievable. Again I quote directly from policy: "An otherwise non-educational file does not acquire educational purpose solely because it is in use on a gallery page or in a category on Commons". Next point ALL the photos here "are of poor or mediocre quality", they are obviously so. Look at this "the fact that an unused blurred photograph could theoretically be used to illustrate an article on "Common mistakes in photography" does not mean that we should keep all blurred photographs", these photos are blurred. They would not be accepted as stock photos unless John Lennon took them. Please quit looking at thumbnails and examine them. What are you suggesting? That these photos can illustrate an article about how "not" to take a Glamour photo? Why do you feel as an Administrator you do not need to uphold policy, when you quote it to uploaders every day to justify your deletions and objections on your talk page. The policy says: Anything uploaded here which falls outside this scope COM:PS will be deleted. This is completely obviously the case here. I will be blunt, you cannot be an Administrator and wilfully ignore policy or cherry pick it so suit your own agenda. Your entitled to your opinions sure, but you are not entitled to ignore laid down policy. It is your duty as an administrator to be objective within "policy" guidelines; that is what you signed up for. If I'm wrong, quote me the policy that says so... --BeckenhamBear (talk) 18:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think the point is that first the photographs should be nominated for deletion in the appropriate area for doing that. Instead, you have started a discussion in the area for discussing categories. The photos may end up deleted, but as things stand, it's reasonable to have this category to contain them. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:53, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Unbelievable. Again I quote directly from policy: "An otherwise non-educational file does not acquire educational purpose solely because it is in use on a gallery page or in a category on Commons". Next point ALL the photos here "are of poor or mediocre quality", they are obviously so. Look at this "the fact that an unused blurred photograph could theoretically be used to illustrate an article on "Common mistakes in photography" does not mean that we should keep all blurred photographs", these photos are blurred. They would not be accepted as stock photos unless John Lennon took them. Please quit looking at thumbnails and examine them. What are you suggesting? That these photos can illustrate an article about how "not" to take a Glamour photo? Why do you feel as an Administrator you do not need to uphold policy, when you quote it to uploaders every day to justify your deletions and objections on your talk page. The policy says: Anything uploaded here which falls outside this scope COM:PS will be deleted. This is completely obviously the case here. I will be blunt, you cannot be an Administrator and wilfully ignore policy or cherry pick it so suit your own agenda. Your entitled to your opinions sure, but you are not entitled to ignore laid down policy. It is your duty as an administrator to be objective within "policy" guidelines; that is what you signed up for. If I'm wrong, quote me the policy that says so... --BeckenhamBear (talk) 18:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- If the images are low quality and not of a notable person or otherwise of educational value, they should be deleted. That said, I agree with Christian Ferrer's first statement that we should keep the category so long as the images exist (if only to make mass deletion nominations easier). - Themightyquill (talk) 09:12, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, per Ruthven and Christian Ferrer. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 11:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:03, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
empty cat, double to Category:Caprona ransonnetti LigaDue (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect: it's a plausible typo/alternative spelling ([1]), just redirect it to Category:Caprona ransonnetti with {{Category redirect}}.
- I added a redirect. Rudolphous (talk) 20:17, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Close: cat has been redirected. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Wrong name Fayhoo (talk) 04:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete, but redirect Category:RMK-BRJ to Category:Raymond Internationa, Morrison-Knudsen, Brown and Root, and J.A. Jones Construction. Themightyquill (talk) 09:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Deleted and redirected. ~riley (talk) 07:21, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
replaced by Category:1874 German Transit of Venus Expedition III to Auckland Island Gerd Leibrock (talk) 06:29, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Close: cat redirected. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
While we have Category:People of the Turkish Navy since 2012, a user invented this new cat. E4024 (talk) 09:22, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing: I redirected this cat and one of the subcats, and moved content accordingly. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Unnecessary User CAT, nothing shows artwork in this cat Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 16:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Artistic photography is art. Verspertunes can call anything they like artwork in a user category. It's none of your business. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:30, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Keep. ~riley (talk) 07:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Unnecessary User CAT Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 16:12, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- No user categories are necessary. What is your problem with this one? - Themightyquill (talk) 08:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Keep. ~riley (talk) 07:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Remove: Merged with Category:Blooming Bud Xeror (talk) 11:47, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: as above. ~riley (talk) 07:22, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Double to existing and formally correct category. Please, thanks. Liberaler Humanist (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Deletion requested by creator of user category. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:39, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Remove: Unnecessary subcategory for just 1 file (recategorized) Xeror (talk) 18:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Deleted as above. ~riley (talk) 07:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Merge with Category:Roads in Armenia or delete Vagrand (talk) 16:39, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Bad name}}. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 18:46, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
I created "Orzeł Biały mine" category, that isn't useful anymore. Gower (talk) 16:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted. --Reinhard Kraasch (talk) 13:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
I created this category not realising that Category:Whitby Gothic Weekend already existed. Please redirect to that category Gbawden (talk) 08:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Done. --E4024 (talk) 08:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
What is the difference from "medicine women"? E4024 (talk) 12:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note:I emptied it for deletion, because both the cat and the only file in it were under Category:Medicine women. With all the due respect, certain users make many mistakes in creating new cats which result in loss of time in more productive areas. This is not a formal complaint, and less a personal attack. We are all volunteers here and only can do something altogether. I kindly request all users -myself included- to look at the CfDs and if their cats are coming here too frequently try to observe others and develop their cat-making practice. Thanks. This can be closed, IMHO. --E4024 (talk) 12:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Deleted as empty. --Rodhullandemu (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Who is she? Why does she have a cat? E4024 (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
See discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/02/Category:Familia Velásquez Felices. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:14, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Who is he? E4024 (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
See discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/02/Category:Familia Velásquez Felices. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Who is he? Why do we have this cat? E4024 (talk) 15:28, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
See discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/02/Category:Familia Velásquez Felices. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
File moved to without sponsor name category Sakhalinio (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- I moved Category:Fenerbahçe Ülker to "men's basketball" (and not Men's Basketball as we had already agreed :) and made this an RD. The discussion can be closed. (We should never make cat titles with sponsor names because these sports clubs change sponsors more frequently than X changes husbands. :) No, I will not reveal who X is. --E4024 (talk) 13:13, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Done. --E4024 (talk) 13:14, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
If all its three subcats begin with "Draining of", this should also use "Draining of" instead of "Empty". My 2 cents. E4024 (talk) 14:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: Nem con, renamed for consistency. --Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I emptied this cat because I wanted to get it deleted. "Vegetarian" and "meatballs" sounded like oxymoron to me. (I hope oxymoron means what I imagined. If not I'm going to be funny trying to show myself knowledgeable. :) Still I brought it here in case anybody wishes to continue using this cat. IMHO we can sacrifice/prescind it. E4024 (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It is indeed an oxymoron but it seems to be a term that vegetarians themselves use as this Google search shows. It does seem strange to me that vegetarians actually want to be reminded of a meat dish but who am I to disagree? In East and Southeast Asia, there is a whole industry churning out fake meat dishes. Unlike most vegetarian Hindus, many vegetarian Buddhist seem to relish the meat flavour and looks without the meat actually being in there. I guess the same applies to this category of fake meat. More fake meat dishes can be found at Category:Meat substitutes - Takeaway (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- It is indeed highly common English usage. I've returned the two images to the category. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! - Takeaway (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- It is indeed highly common English usage. I've returned the two images to the category. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- I see that I was right in not asking directly the deletion of this cat. Let's keep it with the current population of two files. I will try to cook some vegetable meatballs in the coming days and add the pics inside. Having said that, I'm confused again. Maybe those vegetable balls should go into vegetable patties. In Turkey we have the mercimek köftesi but then maybe that would go into pulse (legume) meatballs cat. BTW we have to create and give an order to Category:Legumes by country. At present while Chile has a cat with only one file (although we might have other files here and there to populate the cat), large legume producer countries, including mine, have no "by country" cats. --E4024 (talk) 07:12, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- @E4024: Category:Mercimek kofte can definitely go into "Vegetable patties" and not into anything meatballish as it doesn't pretend to be fake meat, or you could create "Category:Vegetable patties made from pulses" (or something like that) as a subcat of "Category:Vegetable patties" and Category:Legume-based food. If you set up a whole category chain up to the main categories for just one country, others might eventually follow if they get around categorising their country's pulse-based patties and legumes in general. ;-) I think these chats should best be held elsewhere than at "Commons:Categories for discussion" though. Regards, - Takeaway (talk) 17:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Category kept. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Category:Düden Waterfall has been moved to this name (Category:Düden Waterfalls) by a certain user. The same user has made a cat for waterfalls in the same "city": Category:Waterfalls in Antalya. Of the three waterfalls in this city cat, only this one ends in plural? Why? If "falls" was the correct use, why did they not move the other two "waterfall" cats? I think the mistakes by a certain user are over an acceptable level. They should stop or be stopped. We are not here to always correct the mistakes of the same users who never listen to advice and recommendations. It looks like they have their "own" Commons... E4024 (talk) 11:48, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- A user is not obliged to change every similar category when they make a change, so that's irrelevant. The falls at at en:Düden Waterfalls because they are apparently "a group of waterfalls." That seems reasonable to me. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Any further comments on this, E4024? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:05, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Category kept. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Empty category, it should be delete. — Bukhari (Talk!) 09:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. I vote for keep, its empty now, but has relevance. meanwhile I categorize under Category:Disneyland Park (Paris). Dan Koehl (talk) 09:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's empty because there is no FOP in France, and the building is still subject to copyright restrictions. So it has little or no growth potential, Dan Koehl. That said, images of the building have been uploaded repeatedly over the years. Perhaps it would be better to keep it with {{NoUploads}} and {{NoFoP-France}} templates. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I see Themightyquill, then it really would be relevant to keep it with the two suggested templates. Dan Koehl (talk) 10:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's empty because there is no FOP in France, and the building is still subject to copyright restrictions. So it has little or no growth potential, Dan Koehl. That said, images of the building have been uploaded repeatedly over the years. Perhaps it would be better to keep it with {{NoUploads}} and {{NoFoP-France}} templates. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Category kept. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
20161106? Is this a telephone number? Dates like this should not be used in cats, IMHO. E4024 (talk) 09:52, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Dear @E4024: , two team can be play so many match. And we need to differentiate for the future. What is the your suggest ? Regards, Sakhalinio (talk) 14:18, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- There's not thing wrong with using a date in a category, but maybe the formatting could be different. Either Category:Vakifbank Istanbul vs Bursa Büyükşehir Belediyespor (2016-11-06) or Category:Vakifbank Istanbul vs Bursa Büyükşehir Belediyespor (6 November 2016) - Themightyquill (talk) 08:32, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Dear @Themightyquill: , this is good examples, is there any standart about it? Why i am firstly yer, because of ranking for future. Regards, Sakhalinio (talk) 18:28, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Sakhalinio: I don't see one clear standard. Category:Volleyball matches in France has both, so does Category:Association football matches in France. But stringing the numbers together is unclear, so either of the options above would be better. -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:30, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Vakifbank Istanbul vs Bursa Büyükşehir Belediyespor (2016-11-06). - Themightyquill (talk) 10:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Still-life painters is spelled with hyphen. See also Category:Still-life paintings. Vincent Steenberg (talk) 21:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it's a compound adjective. Fixed. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Do we need this cat? The subcats? The files in them? E4024 (talk) 15:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- You are welcome to nominate the files for deletion. There are quite a few, so it makese sense to keep them together so long as they are here. There seems to be some connection with es:Elvis García Moran. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: deleted as empty categories. P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Merged with Category:Bank of China branches in Central and Western District Xeror (talk) 09:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
No opposition. Category deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:32, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea who Cavid Süleymanlı is. User:Cavid Süleymanlı can give us more information on if it is normal and necessary to keep a category for themselves with personal images. E4024 (talk) 07:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- I mean a category other than the existing Category:User:Cavid Süleymanlı. Is he a notable sportsman? --E4024 (talk) 08:00, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- Do both cats have the same files or am I confused? --E4024 (talk) 08:41, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
No response. Seemingly redundant to Category:User:Cavid Süleymanlı. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Was speedy with rationale "Copyright violation of articles in this category, empty category, see talks here: Commons:Village pump/Copyright#Everipedia using multimedia content from this project and Commons:Village pump/Copyright#CC license, but which one?", logo is being discussed but unlikely to be deleted. - Alexis Jazz 23:05, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: It wasn't empty when nominated; it isn't empty now; and it isn't likely to be empty, considering Commons:Deletion requests/File:Everipedia.png and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Everipedia logo.svg. --Closeapple (talk) 07:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
In the discussion at the village pump is stated that nothing of Everipedia can be used for commercial purposes. So my conclusion was that this category would be empty as soon as all the images would have been deleted. If that is not that case, than please untag it. Ymnes (talk) 08:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- That they state nothing can be used for commercial purposes does not mean it cannot (cf w:Copyfraud). If something is PD or freely licensed, their statement does not change the fact. And as they also say CC-BY-SA-4.0, one should check which statement applies, if using the statement for anything (it seems one cannot trust them regarding attribution or licences, so other factors than their statements have to be used in most cases). --LPfi (talk) 09:38, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Category is not empty. No clear reason to deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 19:39, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Category for hosting non-free content. Microsoft screenshots are copyrighted. All files within this category should be deleted as well. Batreeq (talk) 03:44, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- As per similar CFDs, the files should be proposed for deletion first. A long as they exist, it's reasonable to keep the category. When the files are gone, the empty category can be deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:06, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
No reason to delete category when images still exist. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:00, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Remove: Merged with Category:Passenger information displays at MTR stations Xeror (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
No opposition in over a month. Deleted. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Mixed volleyball doesn't seem to me to be a cat easy to grow. Therefore having this subcat with only one image may not be necessary. E4024 (talk) 12:25, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Comment In Japan, 混合バレーボール is exist. But mainly, Mixed volleyball = recreation (rather than competetion)? --- One case
I don't know how much "mixed volleyball photos" there in Commons. I'll try looking for it (as much as possible). --Benzoyl (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- It seems really unnecessary to sub-categorize different moves by gender. Neither Category:Save (goaltender) nor Category:Catch (baseball) are divided like that. I'd suggest upmerging all of them. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:46, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Upmerging. - Themightyquill (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Category:Cities and villages in Greece by regional unit is redundant with Category:Populated places in Greece by regional unit. The former is a child category of Category:Populated places in Greece because Category:Cities and villages in Greece was deleted in 2008 (and possibly again in 2014). It also fails to account for towns or other types of populated places. I would suggest merging to Category:Populated places in Greece by regional unit and renaming all the sub-categories accordingly - Themightyquill (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Support --Auntof6 (talk) 23:36, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Ruthven: Would you be able to help with this mass move? Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:03, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Done: per discussion. Ruthven (msg) 20:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
bad name, see also Category:Saint-Luc Schofför (talk) 23:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Move Category:Saint-Luc to Category:Saint-Luc, Switzerland as per en:Saint-Luc (disambiguation). - Themightyquill (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Created disambiguation page at Category:Saint-Luc and redirected Category:St. Luc there. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
This 2017 created category overlaps in intended use with Category:Sculptures in Norfolk. I can certianly see an argument for appending ", England" to avoid conufusion with the Norfolk in Virginia, but surely better to have only one. Icarusgeek (talk) 09:26, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Given that the parent category is at Category:Norfolk, England it makes sense to use Category:Sculptures in Norfolk, England, and delete the other. Category:Statues in Norfolk should also be renamed accordingly. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support using ",England" on all names. --Auntof6 (talk) 17:57, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved to "Norfolk, England" - Themightyquill (talk) 11:17, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Seems like an unnecessary category that's nearly identical to Category:Politicians of Nigeria. Category:Political office-holders is a redirect. --ghouston (talk) 11:06, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- They're not the same in theory. Some politicians never hold office: maybe because they always lose elections, maybe for other reasons. I do notice that Category:Political office-holders in Nigeria is almost all cats for specific offices: maybe it should be turned into a metacat called Category:Politicians of Nigeria by office. --Auntof6 (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I said "nearly identical" since there may be cases of politicians who never held a political office. But it's not very helpful, since most of the contents of Category:Politicians of Nigeria should probably be moved into Category:Political office-holders in Nigeria. Category:Politicians of Nigeria by office would fit in Category:Politicians by office by country, although it would only contain a few categories at the moment. I was going to say that other countries don't have such a category, but then I searched for it and there are quite a few around, like Category:Political office-holders in the United States, when there's also Category:Politicians of the United States by office. --ghouston (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think a move to Category:Politicians of Nigeria by political office would make sense. We might consider the same with other "office-holders" categories too. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:01, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I said "nearly identical" since there may be cases of politicians who never held a political office. But it's not very helpful, since most of the contents of Category:Politicians of Nigeria should probably be moved into Category:Political office-holders in Nigeria. Category:Politicians of Nigeria by office would fit in Category:Politicians by office by country, although it would only contain a few categories at the moment. I was going to say that other countries don't have such a category, but then I searched for it and there are quite a few around, like Category:Political office-holders in the United States, when there's also Category:Politicians of the United States by office. --ghouston (talk) 00:04, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Politicians of Nigeria by political office. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:34, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
This category is not a category but a kind of fake article (probably with promotional purpose). Please, delete. Lacrymocéphale (talk) 13:48, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Zhongguo Dangdai Mingren Zhuan). GZWDer (talk) 18:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Sibu Congkan). Subcategories may need renaming too. GZWDer (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:37, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Gengzi Xinhai Zhongliexiang Zan). GZWDer (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Minguo Mingren Tujian). GZWDer (talk) 18:31, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:30, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Shikuishu). GZWDer (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Xuxiu Siku Quanshu). Subcategories may need renaming too. GZWDer (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- I have no objection about this. I just don't know if there is a proper English name for these categories, or I should use transliteral name. This category is being used by current upload bot task, so please tell me to move this category. Other categories can be moved safely.--Midleading (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)您好，您可以在维基文库写字间为所有上传计划提出相应的分类名，以后我会采用。——Midleading (talk) 09:22, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Yunnan Shouyi Yonghu Gonghe Shimo Ji). GZWDer (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Qianlong Dazangjing). GZWDer (talk) 18:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Per Commons:Categories#Category_names, this should be in transliterated name (Category:Siku Jinhuishu Congkan). GZWDer (talk) 18:35, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved per nomination. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
gamason jennifer estelle wright lechuga Gamasonwright (talk) 06:02, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- This appears to me to be a nonsense nomination by an editor who appears to have no contributions other than to make this nomination and to "tear up the neighborhood" around this category so as to make the category look useless. I suggest a speedy keep, but I'll give 24 hours for someone to object. - Jmabel ! talk 06:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- On the other hand, there do appear to be an awful lot of layers with no images in this part of the hierarchy before we eventually get down to some pictures. Does this need to be revisited? - Jmabel ! talk 06:35, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Galleries is often confused with art galleries. Preferably, categories should have unambiguous names. Examples: Category:Volutes (architecture), Category:Capitals (architecture). The text on the category page Galleries is not really helpful because the users usually add a category without reading the category page.
- The Category:Galleries in Yemen contained only files to art galleries.
- The Category:Galleries in Canada contained only files to art galleries.
- The Category:Galleries in Jordan contained only files to art galleries.
- --Arnaud Palastowicz (talk) 15:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Arnaud Palastowicz: So do you have a proposal for a change here? Because the original nomination is nonsense: 4 names and the Spanish word for "lettuce". - Jmabel ! talk 16:35, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Galleries is often confused with art galleries. Preferably, categories should have unambiguous names. Examples: Category:Volutes (architecture), Category:Capitals (architecture). The text on the category page Galleries is not really helpful because the users usually add a category without reading the category page.
- Keep I have no proposal. I justified the renaming of the cat. --Arnaud Palastowicz (talk) 16:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think renaming everything to "Galleries (architecture)..." makes sense. - Themightyquill (talk) 14:17, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I work hard on it.
--Arnaud Palastowicz (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I work hard on it.
Closed, keep. I think it is clear that this category is fine, and any problem to be solved is with the naming of other categories. Since the nomination rationale was basically nonsense, I see no reason to keep this open longer. - Jmabel ! talk 16:09, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Reopened I'll tag the other categories that we seem to have consensus to change. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:30, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Renamed all similar categories to "Galleries (architecture) in..." format. - Themightyquill (talk) 17:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Such "class" does/did not exist. Furthermore the Maersk Alabama. formerly named Alva Maersk is one of the last ships in a line of similar container vessels being built until 1998. Jotzet (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- I marked it as empty for deletion. --E4024 (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. - Themightyquill (talk) 17:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I propose this category renamed to Superstructures (dental), or Dental superstructures, or perhaps, Superstructures (orthodontics) -? -- to give way to the Superstructures in engineering such as in w:Superstructure. 2015.ww (talk) 04:04, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agree. If this cat doesn't become a disambiguation page, we can put a hatnote in it. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agree. Superstructures on dental implants is better. R-E-AL (talk) 20:15, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Superstructures on dental implants. - Themightyquill (talk) 17:54, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Move to Category:Currency symbols. Despite the fact that we would say "Dollar sign" or "Pound sign", we'd "currency symbols" would still be common use, as evidenced by en:Currency symbols. Themightyquill (talk) 21:53, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Agree. "Signs" means something different for purposes here. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Currency symbols along with subcategories. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Is this for currency signs for obsolete German currencies, or for obsolete (superseded by svg) symbols for German currencies? Unclear. Themightyquill (talk) 22:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- The first one. I tried to make it clearer.--Carnby (talk) 16:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Carnby. A related parent category might also help. I wonder if we could make something equivalent to en:Category:Modern obsolete currencies. - 22:03, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Done.--Carnby (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, Carnby. A related parent category might also help. I wonder if we could make something equivalent to en:Category:Modern obsolete currencies. - 22:03, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Old German currency signs. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Redundant with Category:Ancient coins of Israel and of Judaea Themightyquill (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Merged to Category:Ancient coins of Israel and of Judaea. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Are women a subcat of men? E4024 (talk) 12:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Shouldn't be. This and similar categories should be categorized on the same level as men. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Problem is that the occupation is called en:Medicine man. There isn't a gender-neutral parent category. --ghouston (talk) 23:06, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- We could rename the parent category to Category:Medicine men and women? --ghouston (talk) 23:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
We also seem to have a mismatch: enwiki says the term is for indigenous people of the Americas, while Commons has categories like Category:Medicine men of Africa. --ghouston (talk) 23:09, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. All the ancient (traditional) societies had a man or woman taking care of health issues (sometimes mixed with magic) called in some or another way. For example the ancient Turkish peoples had an "otacı" (healer?) which is today a brand of fine herbs ("şifalı otlar" / health-giving herbs) traditionally used for health issues. The Mapuches (indigenous peoples of Argentina and Chile) had (or perhaps still have) "machi"s, generally women. I doubt it was not a universal institution. --E4024 (talk) 05:46, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but is "medicine man" the right term for it? Enwiki also has en:Category:Traditional healthcare occupations. --ghouston (talk) 06:45, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know. I'm glad I opened the discussion. Certainly a better outcome will be found. --E4024 (talk) 06:48, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but is "medicine man" the right term for it? Enwiki also has en:Category:Traditional healthcare occupations. --ghouston (talk) 06:45, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'd say it's a pretty weak wikipedia article and a bad category here. How about Category:Traditional healers, potentially broken up by contintent, and preferably by specific culture? Perhaps there's no need to divide it by gender? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Merged into Category:Traditional healers. - Themightyquill (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I see no reason for capitalization. Please see Category:Bull-running in Stamford. E4024 (talk) 13:54, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep matches its English equivalent. Evrik (talk) 14:08, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
As per Evrik, this is a proper noun. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Only file from this category has been deleted. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:37, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Update: other files have been added to the category, but I still believe it ought to be deleted as it does not provide useful categorization. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's empty again, so I tagged it with {{Empty page}}. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Deleted as empty. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:17, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Redundant category. It is not a generic name nor a particular string. It is the name of one pub because of local history, which has its own category The Penny Fun, Moor Allerton. Recommend deletion Chemical Engineer (talk) 17:42, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Object This is part of a "by name" category. It is the nature of all such categories that some names will be unique. This appears to be the case here but as the category is not for "non-unique" names it should remian. S a g a C i t y (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete There's no point in a "by name" category for a unique pub. That's like a creating Category:People named Ronald Reagan with a single Category:Ronald Reagan inside. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:00, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted - no need for a category for a single subcategory. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:18, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Art. 60.8 of the ICN says that "ae" in scientific names in this function are replaced by "i", so oleaefolia is now oleifolia. Moved files, cat. is empty. Dwergenpaartje (talk) 15:59, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment It's not empty; it contains a taxo template and a link to a gallery. Rodhullandemu (talk) 17:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- The images have been moved to Category:Leucospermum oleifolium. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Converted to redirect, as per standard. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Neither of the (equally misnamed) images in this category depicts the fictitious 'Null Island'. They show a weather buoy, Station 13010 - "Soul" - see en:Null Island, d:Q24041662, and http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=13010 Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:05, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- It seems relevant to the fictious Null island, since it's used in the wikipedia article. We could make a sub-category called "Weather buoy station 13010" if you think it's important. I think it's pretty obvious to anyone looking (nevermind reading the description) that it's not an island. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
The current name should be fine; I've added Category:Weather buoys. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:09, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I think the following categories need better names:
The current names sound like the categories are about the general meaning of "companies", but they appear to be something else: they are both categorized under religious groups. Besides that, the Tuscany category is categorized under church elements, but the Lombardy category is not. If these are deleted or renamed, their parent category may also need some action. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:03, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- Move to Category:Religious groups in Lombardy? - Themightyquill (talk) 19:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- If that's what they mean. I'm not sure what it was supposed to mean. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:15, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's religious groups that have historically been called "companies" (in Italian). The word predates its use for commericial groups (like military companies) but I agree that's not common usage now. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: No opposition. If you're okay with moving to Category:Religious groups in X, I'd say go for it. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Themightyquill: Thanks: done. I've tagged the old categories for deletion. --Auntof6 (talk) 10:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: No opposition. If you're okay with moving to Category:Religious groups in X, I'd say go for it. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Religious groups in Lombardy etc. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Bad English. Cat-opener refuses my help. Therefore I hope others may help them. E4024 (talk) 08:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Fix grammar, moved to Category:Exterior of Presidential Palace of Turkey - Themightyquill (talk) 09:55, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
The other images in this category are defunct. A high resolution scan has been provided from the Google art project. Please delete. Aavindraa (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Aavindraa has marked several copies of this image as superseded but they haven't been nominated for deletion. I've restored them to the category for now. - Themightyquill (talk) 23:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Months later, the category still contains multiple images. Closing as keep. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:00, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Currently redirecting to Category:Cities of Italy in art, which seems to me to be a totally different meaning. Themightyquill (talk) 15:03, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- I agree. This cat would be for paintings in Italy that show cityscapes of any city in the world. The redirect target category would be for paintings located anywhere in the world that show Italian cities. So what to do? If this cat was depopulated before being redirected, we might want to determine whether the removed entries belonged here. If they didn't, then this could be deleted. If they did, we could decide whether to repopulate. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't able to figure out if it was depopulated or not. I deleted it, but it can be recreated if necessary in the future. At the moment, there isn't much in the natural parent category (Category:Landscape paintings in Italy) to warrant a sub-category. - Themightyquill (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Sakhalinio, is there a special reason in opening this cat with small letters in the title but Category:Fenerbahçe Women's Basketball with capital letters? E4024 (talk) 08:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Dear @E4024: , I think old one was wrong, that category also created by me. As i know it has to be small letters in english grammer. Regards, Sakhalinio (talk) 18:23, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I moved that cat to the same title with small letters. Also did the same with its two sub-cats. The other (match) cats should be decided later, according to the result of the discussion about dates on cats. --E4024 (talk) 07:45, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- I was a little confused by this. Is this the name of the team? Category:Fenerbahçe Women's Basketball - BC Nadezhda Orenburg 15 April 2016 would seem to suggest that it is. In which case, capitalizing all words might make sense. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:49, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Closed. I'm going to move to the correct categorization Fenerbahçe SK (women's volleyball) and give consistency to the whole tree. --- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 16:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Ehrengräber Atamari (talk) 14:31, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Category:Honorable graves und Category:Graves of Honor beschreiben wohl das gleiche (Ehrengräber), welche Bezeichnung ist die bessere? --Atamari (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Given that English wikipedia uses Ehrengrab, I would support using the German term here. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:52, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Closing and redirecting category to Category:Graves of Honor. Evrik (talk) 15:28, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Grabstätten? Graves? Gravestones? Warum Deutsch? E4024 (talk) 13:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, most of the sub-categories of Category:Melaten-Friedhof should be renamed to English. FDMS4, would you be willing to help with this? Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I see it the same way, and I am sorry for my mistakes. --Nicola (talk) 12:29, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Nicola, thank you and congratulations! It's good to have people like you here... Viele Grüsse. --E4024 (talk) 07:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- User:E4024 *smile* In the moment I cannot do it, beside the point that I might not choose the right names (again) and I am not that fit in Commons technics. If you want me to do it it might take some time. --Nicola (talk) 08:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I can wait; not one of my priorities. Look, when I came here I could difficultly send an image attached to an e-mail. Now I'm even harassed for working too much for a better Commons. Auf wiedersehen. --E4024 (talk) 08:55, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- User:E4024 *smile* In the moment I cannot do it, beside the point that I might not choose the right names (again) and I am not that fit in Commons technics. If you want me to do it it might take some time. --Nicola (talk) 08:50, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Nicola, thank you and congratulations! It's good to have people like you here... Viele Grüsse. --E4024 (talk) 07:45, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I see it the same way, and I am sorry for my mistakes. --Nicola (talk) 12:29, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I think I opened another discussion without noticing this one... --E4024 (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Done. Joostik (talk) 05:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Done: Moved to Category:Graves on the Melaten-Friedhof. --rimshottalk 22:34, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
same as https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Kaunas_(ship,_1989) Andrei (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- It looks as though it was renamed in 2012. Both categories are in Category:IMO 8311924 and Category:LYAG (call sign). I could be wrong, but I think that's how commons handles ship renames. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:06, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep What Themightyquill says: the ship was renamed from Kaunas to Kaunas Seaways in 2012, which also introduced a different livery. Separate categories for different looks thus make sense. --HyperGaruda (talk) 07:46, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Done: Kept, as per discussion. Apparently, that's how ship names are handled. --rimshottalk 22:39, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
This category and its subcats make absolutely no sense. At least for purposes of our category structure, we should not have overlap in seasons like this. If the intended use was to have files for things happening in winter that are usually associated with spring, then there's certainly a better way to name these categories (if we need them at all). Maybe "new plant growth in winter" or something similar. FYI, this came out of a discussion at Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/01/Category:Spring 2018. Auntof6 (talk) 10:36, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- may be rename it to "Spring flowers in winter" --anro (talk) 10:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Then what is the definition of "spring flowers"? If it's winter, they aren't spring flowers. How about just "flowers budding" or something related to the stage they're in? --Auntof6 (talk) 11:05, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- How ever I have created this category, and Spring in winter can be deleted when all images are removed from it. Spring flowers are plants flowering esp. in spring - I am removing flowers eniierely from this category which are not typically for spring --anro (talk) 14:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Please stop creating new categories to try to address this. I don't think it's helping. Just wait until we get input from others. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:58, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- How ever I have created this category, and Spring in winter can be deleted when all images are removed from it. Spring flowers are plants flowering esp. in spring - I am removing flowers eniierely from this category which are not typically for spring --anro (talk) 14:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Then what is the definition of "spring flowers"? If it's winter, they aren't spring flowers. How about just "flowers budding" or something related to the stage they're in? --Auntof6 (talk) 11:05, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's a little weird that we don't have Category:Flower buds but we do have Category:Close-up photographs of flower buds (in Category:Buds). I'm also not a fan of Category:Spring in winter or even Category:Spring flowers in winter. Category:Spring flowers is kind of a mess already. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:22, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete Too ambiguous, "Spring in Winter" is too vague, snowdrops come out in later Winter, rather than Spring as far as I'm aware but people often associate them with the start of Spring. Note that Category:Spring in winter 2013-2014 in Germany was created back in January 2014. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Delete The photographs were made in February, and that's just winter. It obviously was a very special winter, but flowers don't change the calendar. --Reinhard Müller (talk) 19:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 01:19, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
For your delete by duplicate Category:Galápagos Cove, Melilla MONUMENTA (talk) 19:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: author request. --ƏXPLICIT 01:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
same as Category:San Michele alla Verruca LigaDue (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's a convention to put the name of the city in brackets for churches. But maybe can be omissed here due to state of archaeological site. --DnaX (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 01:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
I guess it has to be deleted. Almost every day I'm emptying and marking for "speedy" deletion newly-opened cats in the area of Turkey. Maybe it's better to bring them here. It could be that I'm wrong. E4024 (talk) 08:33, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- You think deletion is better than leaving the redirect? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:40, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Not done: redirected instead. --ƏXPLICIT 01:24, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
There are no palaces in Ankara; and the building is not called a "palace" ("Saray" in Turkish). BTW palaces are seen as a concept of pre-Republican times in Turkey and other than "Kültür Sarayı" (Palace of Culture) they are rarely used. (The word "palas" is used for hotels.) E4024 (talk) 08:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep If it's not called Saray in Turkish, why is it at tr:Cumhurbaşkanlığı Sarayı (Türkiye)? It may not be the official name, but it seems to be a common name. I don't see the problem with leaving this category here. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep ‘’Turkish: saray’’=Place Pivox (talk) 21:08, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 01:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Unnecessarily created wrong category. Should be deleted. BTW "Turkish Army" is not synonymous with "Turkish Armed Forces". E4024 (talk) 07:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep see also Military of Turkey academies... -Pivox (talk) 12:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Better see also Category:Turkish Military Academy and its subcats. --E4024 (talk) 13:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps a litle more explanation could be offered here? What's wrong with the category name? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:07, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- @E4024: Can you explain please? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm going to go ahead and close this as nobody seems to know what's being suggested. – BMacZero (🗩) 03:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Category:Panoramics and all subcategories
[edit]I propose changing all instances of "panoramics" to "panoramic views photographs". "Panoramic" is not considered to be a noun by oxforddictionaries.com nor by merriam-webster.com. Ham II (talk) 08:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- I would suggest changing it from "panoramics" to "panoramic photographs" instead of "panoramic views". The essence of this category is that the files in it consist of photographs which have been stitched together. The present parent category is "Category:Panoramic photography" which would also make "Category:Panoramic photographs" a logical name. - Takeaway (talk) 15:01, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'm happy with that; "panoramic photographs" is also more precise. I've changed the nomination text. Ham II (talk) 05:59, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Takeaway: Not all panoramic photographs have been stitched. There are cameras that take panoramic photos. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please note that Category:Panoramic paintings, Category:Panoramic videos, Panorama buildings and Panoramic drawings are sub-categories of Category:Panoramics. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- They should be subcategories of Category:Panoramas instead, alongside Category:Panoramic photographs. Ham II (talk) 12:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- The noun form of panoramic is panorama (pl. panoramas). However, panoramic photographs would be suitable if separation of photographs from drawings and videos is intended. --Xeror (talk) 19:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- What I'm proposing is a change of scope as well as a change of name for Category:Panoramics; Category:Panoramas already exists for panoramas in general, so there's no need for an additional "Panoramics" category, but there is an obvious use for a "Panoramic photographs" category. Ham II (talk) 10:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Ham II: I'd support creating Category:Panoramic photographs (and a tree of sub-categories) and moving any non-photograph panoramas/panoramics and their categories up to Category:Panoramas. - Themightyquill (talk) 21:53, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- I've made some progress here, but there is still more to be done. Themightyquill (talk) 15:53, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
- I support a new order in panoramas and also the new name "panoramic photographs". In the past I have been moving standard pictures - not stiched or otherwise assembled - to other categories which have been filed under panoramics as in some languages "panorama" or its derivatives also means a "nice view". I therefore strongly suggest that in the header of the category there should be a clear description of the type of photographs - stiched ones - which should be filed under this category tree. Simisa (talk) 07:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Simisa: Please see my earlier post below below. For stitched images we have Category:Stitched images, and some panoramic photographs that are wide views don't require stitching at all, see Category:Panoramic cameras or en:Category:Panoramic cameras. --Sitacuisses (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
There is still some clarification needed about the definitions and the scope of the Panoramics/Panorama categories. Since they lack category descriptions, one has to look elsewhere for a definition. According to en:Panoramic photography, the defining characteristic is the wide aspect ratio. It's not the fact that the images are stitched together. We have Category:Stitched images for that. There are panoramic cameras that don't require stitching at all, and you can also create a wide aspect ratio by cropping a single photograph. Therefore it's incorrect to place Category:Panoramic photography directly below "Category:Stitched images". Some subcategories of "Category:Stitched images" are already named "Stitched panoramics of ...". This looks like an adequate concept for categorizing the intersection between "stitched images" and "panoramic photographs".
Also, why is Category:Landscapes currently a subcategory of Category:Panoramas? --Sitacuisses (talk) 10:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- I agree that the wide aspect ratio, and the fact that it's of a view, are the defining characteristics of a panorama. Oxforddictionaries.com gives (as meaning #1.1) "A picture or photograph containing a wide view." (Oddly, Merriam-Webster doesn't have a definition that matches this.) So I suggest that our working definition should be "views, of scenery or interiors, with a wide aspect ratio;" the question then is how do we define a wide aspect ratio. Once we've agreed on a definition of "panorama" it should be added to the header of Category:Panoramas.
- Re the intersection of "stitched images" and "panoramic photographs", I think that the category tree should go Category:Panoramas → Category:Panoramic photographs → Category:Stitched panoramic photographs.
- I've removed Category:Panoramas from Category:Stitched images, and Category:Landscapes from Category:Panoramas. Ham II (talk) 08:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- I agree that "panoramic" is an adjective and not a noun. You have "panoramic photographs" and "panoramas" - both correct. Since this is the English Wikipedia, I think we should use English. Bubba73 (talk) 22:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
closing discussion: moving the cat tree to "panoramic photographs of xyz".--RZuo (talk) 09:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @RZuo: I would like to add something to consider: A panoramic painting or panoramic drawing might go with "panoramas" or "panoramic views", but not with
"panoramic photographs". - If consensus is established and adjusted globally, "panoramas" would be more beneficial (more including) compared to "panoramic photographs". Greets Triplec85 (talk) 10:26, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @RZuo: If you meant to do a final closure on this discussion, please do the relevant formatting (with header and footer templates). Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 22:30, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
closed. the new cat tree will be:
- panoramas
- panoramic photographs
- panoramic paintings
- panoramic videos
- ...
most cats currently present will be moved to "panoramic photographs of ...". it will take a long time to finish moving.--RZuo (talk) 21:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- notes
- subcats should use "of" as preposition (similar to subcats of Category:Photographs by country Category:Views by country Category:Paintings by depicted country), e.g. Category:Panoramas of New York City.
existing cats using "in" should be moved and become redirects to using "of", e.g. Category:Panoramas in Belgium redirects to Category:Panoramas of Belgium. - subcats of Category:Panoramic videos should use "from" as preposition to conform to the format of Category:Videos by country.
- subcats should use "of" as preposition (similar to subcats of Category:Photographs by country Category:Views by country Category:Paintings by depicted country), e.g. Category:Panoramas of New York City.
- --RZuo (talk) 10:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
What is the scope of the subcategories here? If it's flowers photographed in the specified season, then the general categories for species need to be removed because their content is not restricted by season and may not even show flowers. If the scope is plants that bloom in the specified season but the photographs may have been taken at other times, or something else, then other content changes may be appropriate. Whatever the case, we need the scope stated in the category descriptions. Auntof6 (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- As this is a subcategory of Category:Flowers, it should contain pictures of flowers blooming in specified seasons. You are right about the species categories (they were added by different users). Maybe the species categories include subcategories concerning just the flowers, these can be included here. --Thiotrix (talk) 17:05, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- Such subcategories could be included if they are season-specific. There may be plants whose flowering is not limited to one season, especially these days with climate change affecting these things. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
- I would think "Flowers by season of standard blooming" (hopefully worded better) would be a more useful category tree than sorting photos of flowers according to the season the photo was taken. If you're going to sort according to when the photo was taken, sort by month. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:27, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing, inactive discussion, no consensus to make a specific change. Category used, seems useful to some. (I note that while "by month" is often useful in context, it is not a replacement for seasons as they do not fall in the same months in different hemispheres.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Maybe to be merged with, and surely to be linked to/from: Category:Tourist tram services. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 13:17, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not all trams are specifically for tourists. Some are part of regular transit systems. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Doesn't "charter" suggest not part of regular transit system? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:36, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose it does. For some reason, I missed that. Still, would they necessarily be for tourism? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:53, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- In many cases, Charter trams are "for particular tourist group". also, Charter trains ? --Benzoyl (talk) 09:12, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- But, As Auntof6 says.
- For example,File:Kobejo-senyou.jpg is
"School tram". Thanks. --Benzoyl (talk) 09:23, 6 February 2018 (UTC)- Sorry, This is "School train"... --Benzoyl (talk) 09:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- I suppose it does. For some reason, I missed that. Still, would they necessarily be for tourism? --Auntof6 (talk) 23:53, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Doesn't "charter" suggest not part of regular transit system? - Themightyquill (talk) 22:36, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell from [3], the only images we have in this category tree are of tourist trams, not privately chartered trams. - Themightyquill (talk) 10:16, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Oppose: The two images currently in Category:Charter trams in Japan both depict privately chartered trams, so would not really fit appropriately in Category:Tourist tram services. --DAJF (talk) 10:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- What exactly are you opposing? -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 11:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I am opposing the proposal to merge Category:Charter trams with Category:Tourist tram services. --DAJF (talk) 06:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Then read again what’s the subject of this diacussion (n.b.: discussion, not vote): «Maybe to be merged with, and surely to be linked to/from». -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:45, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- I am opposing the proposal to merge Category:Charter trams with Category:Tourist tram services. --DAJF (talk) 06:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Privately chartered for what kind of use? A tram could be privately chartered by a group of tourists. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- File:Hankai 162 Green Only IMG 3864r R 20150720.JPG depicts a tram chartered by a high school railway society. I wouldn't regard that as "tourist use", but what do other people think? It's not clear from the description who the tram in the other image is chartered by, other than that it is privately chartered (kashikiri). --DAJF (talk) 06:14, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- I would say a group of high school students visiting a museum in their own city still qualify as tourists. Unless a tram is being used purely to get from point a to point b (like a charter bus) instead of for learning/entertainment, I'd still call it tourism. - Themightyquill (talk) 08:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Closing, stale discussion without consensus. Seems there is a distinction between this an "Tourist tram services" useful to some in some contexts. "See also" hatnotes now on both categories. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:51, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
This category should be renamed to English, like other museums in Prague and its Wikipedia article at en:National Technical Museum (Prague). See also English page of the museum at [4] Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 08:46, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that makes sense. This one should probably be renamed, too: Category:Technické muzeum v Brně And how about this one? File:Národní technické muzeum v Praze.jpg --Joker Island (talk) 11:01, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- File names definitely don't need to be in English. I'm generally in favour of keeping categories with the official name of places in the original language, but I may be outnumbered on this one. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Closed, not moved. This is not en:w. While usage is not always consistent with the thousands of named museums categorized on Commons, there seems no prohibition of use of actual local/official names. (Start by looking at names of museums in France, for example.) Redirects from alternative/translated names are often useful. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:04, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
This cat is a subcat of Category:Cattle feet dishes, which is one of its subcats. I'm confused. E4024 (talk) 13:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
We can delete it. I will create an other category with Moroccan cattle feet dishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucyin (talk • contribs)
- Keep It was badly set up before, but it now matches with the existing category tree.
- Animal body part (Category:Mammal feet) = Category:Cattle hooves and feet
- Category:Animal feet as food = Category:Beef feet (in this case, Beef denotes food)
- Animal body part dishes (Category:Offal dishes) = Category:Cattle feet dishes (specific dishes)
- Category:Animal feet as food = Category:Beef feet (in this case, Beef denotes food)
- User:Lucyin, I agree with your suggestion, as initiator of this cat, to delete it. --E4024 (talk) 14:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps the last in the list could be changed to Category:Beef feet dishes for consistency? - Themightyquill (talk) 10:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Themightyquill. --Melsj (talk) 18:03, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Closed per discussion; issues seem resolved. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:15, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
The building's name is not "palace". (Please see Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/02/Category:Palaces in Ankara for details.) The Turkish common name "Cumhurbaşkanlığı Külliyesi" translates as "Presidential Complex" (or "Presidential Campus" if "complex" does not sound well) to English. E4024 (talk) 08:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- English wikipedia article is at en:Presidential Complex (Turkey), but refers to it as a palace throughout the article. The Turkish article is at tr:Cumhurbaşkanlığı Sarayı (Türkiye), which I believe translates to Presidental Palace. I'd suggest we at least leave a redirect. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Stale discussion. @Themightyquill: the nominated category is retained as a redirect. It seems that this CFD is solved.--Estopedist1 (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say it's resolved, so much as a user moved it according to his own wishes after nominating it, without consensus or comment. Note that Presidential Palace of Turkey and Institution:Presidential Palace of Turkey still exist. At enwiki, the article was moved to from en:Presidental Complex (Turkey) to en:Presidential Compound (Turkey) last summer, and there's a subsection for the "main buildings" with a redlinked en:Presidential Palace (Turkey) so I guess it depends what we're talking about. -- 19:14, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Closed. Category has been moved. Left as redirect, might be useful to some users since many other countries call similar residences "Presidential palace" or similar. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Do we know him? Or her? A notable gorilla to have a special cat? E4024 (talk) 15:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Marcel was known as such by the rangers who guarded his group and the tourists who visited. Not famous, but not nameless either. And 'by' categories can only contain other categories. --Judithcomm (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Judithcomm: At very least, could you provide additional information in the category about where this Gorilla was, etc? Thanks. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Judith, no other gorilla in Category:Gorilla beringei beringei of Virunga National Park has a name? I think we should delete this cat and upmerge. I mean place the file in the mother cat. --E4024 (talk) 15:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I know all silverbacks in the park are named, most likeley all other adults as well, especially the habituated ones. Humba is one of them (see the pictures in the same category). Keep in mind that there aren't that many mountain gorillas left. --Judithcomm (talk) 15:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Closed, kept. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
People cat with two persons. Would be too complicated to fill. I prefer deleting it. E4024 (talk) 12:20, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Keep -- kind of a poor excuse (the editor is more or less saying "i can't be bothered"). there are literally tens of millions of european muslims, with a history going back almost 1500 years. so how is it "complicated" to have a category for them? especially when that category is part of an organised schema of "muslims by geographical region". Lx 121 (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Lx 121: There may be "tens of millions of european muslims", but I seriously doubt that Commons will have images of them all so that's not really a point in favor of keeping. -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:47, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly keep, but change content. If we want "Muslims by continent" categories, they should include the relevant "Muslims from <country>" categories, and few if any individual names. They should probably also be named more like "Muslims from <continent>" , to match the usual naming conventions. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:01, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- comment - i have no problem with that. i didn't start this schema, i was just filling in a missing section of it. :) (also, sorting "by countries" always makes problems for treating with historical changes in geopolitics & borders, & how to apply those to the people being categorised. i'm not saying "don't do it". but i am saying "this is a point of policy & practice that we really need to figure out properly.)Lx 121 (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- User:Lx 121, thanks for reminding me that I'm kind of a lazy Commoner. I do recognize that, and would like to have more time (not work, not sleep, not eat, no weekend break) to contribute more to this project. I do my best, especially in the area of categorization, and although I believe I'm doing less than I could, statistics show my contributions are not so bad considering the average of regular users. OTOH, I'm happy my laziness caused or helped you to make an edit after a week's lapse in Commons. OK, let's not personalize things; my further opinions: I appreciate Aunt's input. S/he always comes with good ideas. (I wish I had an aunt like that! :) Take me as voting "Do as User:Auntof6 says"; but as I'm lazy probably I will not be adding those millions of people to this cat. Sorry. --E4024 (talk) 08:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- comment - i politely & respectfully refer you to the "do not take things personally" part of "working collaboratively, on a wikiproject". i was criticising your opinion. as stated, by you in your proposal. if you think i have summed it up inaccurately, i invite you to make a counter-arguement, on the substance of the points in discussion, in rebuttal. additionally, for you to say "OK, let's not personalize things" -AFTER attacking me, is really pretty disingenuous of you. &, IF you had bothered to look @ my contribution history, you would find that i have been here for MORE THAN 10 YEARS, & that i have made literally TENS OF THOUSANDS OF EDITS, and that i worked EXTENSIVELY in categorisation. the reason that i no longer do so, with all due respect, is that i have had enough of having arguements like this one. have a nice day! ^__^ Lx 121 (talk) 10:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm busy trying to categorize uncategorized actresses. If you wish you can help me. Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- no, thank-you -- see my above comments. i've gone "off" spending much time here. it is not worth the stress, & our little exchange has helped to remind me of that. Lx 121 (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Who said "i can't be bothered" above? I'm sorry if I disturbed you. I did not attack you and I do not attack anybody. (FYI I have never been blocked here but somehow there is a warning on my TP, which "I" believe is unjust.) Let me go the short way: I get blocked one hour for an unjust attack claim or for any other reason and you get rid of me forever. Now until that moment I will continue to categorize and beg leave. Please let us stop it here. Good-bye. --E4024 (talk) 10:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- no, thank-you -- see my above comments. i've gone "off" spending much time here. it is not worth the stress, & our little exchange has helped to remind me of that. Lx 121 (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm busy trying to categorize uncategorized actresses. If you wish you can help me. Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- I moved the two contained categories to more specific "by country" categories. I'm fine with "Muslims by continent" and "Muslims from Europe" but it should definitely contain the pre-existing "Muslims by country" categories. - Themightyquill (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- Still 02 (two) files. For how long? --E4024 (talk) 02:58, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Stale discussion. @Auntof6, Lx 121, and Themightyquill: seems to be Delete. Still two files. Enwiki en:European Muslims is redirected to en:Islam in Europe (Commons equivalent Category:Islam in Europe)--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm OK either way: OK deleting because there are only two files and I don't see categories for other continents, or keeping if we populate it with the categories for relevant countries (and, probably, create categories for other continents). -- Auntof6 (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. Redirecting to Category:Islam in Europe is also fine with me. If we kept it, it should probably be at Category:Muslims of Europe anyway. -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:18, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
REDIRECTED to Category:Islam in Europe; the two files in the category moved accordingly. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Redundant with Category:Coins of Greece Themightyquill (talk) 22:22, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Not really, plenty of Greek coins (coins with Greek writing and features/themes) exist outside of the standard area of Greece especially when it comes to the ancient world (Magna Graecia, North Africa, Black Sea, Hellenistic Far East, etc). Gts-tg (talk) 06:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Gts-tg: You're talking about the contents of Category:Ancient Greek coins? Because it's a sub-category of Category:Coins of Greece. This category, Category:Greek coins, is a sub-category Category:Categories of Greece by subject. It was a child of Category:Coins by location but that doesn't fit with your description (cultural rather than location) either. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:30, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Themightyquill Greek coins shouldn't be a sub of Coins of Greece (just removed it from there, as ancient Greek coins are Greek coins as well, and there are also modern Greek coins of states that weren't Greece such as Ionian islands and the Cretan Republic), but fall under the Greek coins category, if there is any further inconsistency in the current categorization it should be amended. However the way I see the categorization happening, is precisely on a cultural basis rather than the modern country basis, as well as in terms of chronological, geographical, and administrative criteria. Gts-tg (talk) 09:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- What should the parent categories of Category:Greek coins be? - Themightyquill (talk) 09:44, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Themightyquill Greek coins shouldn't be a sub of Coins of Greece (just removed it from there, as ancient Greek coins are Greek coins as well, and there are also modern Greek coins of states that weren't Greece such as Ionian islands and the Cretan Republic), but fall under the Greek coins category, if there is any further inconsistency in the current categorization it should be amended. However the way I see the categorization happening, is precisely on a cultural basis rather than the modern country basis, as well as in terms of chronological, geographical, and administrative criteria. Gts-tg (talk) 09:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Themightyquill just Coins and Greek culture. ideally instead of Coins it should be Coins by culture but the category doesn't exist yet (can be created, and also filled with other categories, i.e. Arabic etc). Gts-tg (talk) 09:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Stale discussion. @Themightyquill and Gts-tg: I guess it is not good solution that we separate Category:Greek coins and Category:Coins of Greece (compare eg Category:Russian coins which is redirected to "Category:Coins of Russia")--Estopedist1 (talk) 22:19, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that's a good comparison, given Gts-tg's points above. But I also don't have a solution. -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Closed. The cfd notice was removed from the category more than 3 years ago. It is now a parent category with subcats "Ancient Greek coins", "Coins of the Byzantine Empire", and "Modern Greek Coins" (the last of which in turn has subcategories which include "Coins of Greece", but also "Coins of Cyprus", etc). Seems resolved. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
empty. best to delete it. ArturSik (talk) 18:41, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
- It's only empty because you moved the contents to Category:Margaret in 2018, even though most (all?) of the images take place at one event. This means all the the images are now in Category:Melodifestivalen 2018, Göteborg. I fail to see how this is an improvement. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Stale discussion. I support to revert this action by user:ArturSik, and to restore Category:Margaret at Melodifestivalen 2018--Estopedist1 (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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| Notes | I reverted the edits and restored the category. I'm not a big fan of these types of "person X at even Y" categories myself but there's clearly enough images to justify it in this case. | |||
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The cat is in Category:Cuisine of Emilia and Category:Salumi of Italy, but there is mortadella everywhere! I just added a pic from Turkey. So? E4024 (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think it refers to where it originated. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:17, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
- I also think so; so what? Sucuk, pastırma, many Turkish dishes were imposed to me as "universal" and I had to make cats like Category:Turkish pastırma or Category:Turkish sucuk. Tell the Italians to do the same Category:Mortadella of Italy, Category:Italian mortadella or Category:Mortadella in Italy... --E4024 (talk) 07:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- @E4024: Who made you make Category:Turkish pastırma? I could see Category:Pastırma in Turkey maybe, but that's a different issue. I guess there was a desire to differentiate between similar but perhaps slightly different foods with different names in different countries of the former Ottoman empire. I don't see that as an issue with mortadella. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Mortadella is a typical product of Bologna, and its denomination is even protected by EU law. Of course like many popular dishes, they have been loosely copied and reinterpreted in many other countries and contexts, but I would be wary to say that they all are "mortadella" (there is a precise recipe for it, not any pink-looking sausages can be legitimately called "mortadella"!). They are rather mortadella-inspired at best. So the category is where it should be, i.e. under the correct geographic denomination. The comparison with pastırma is inappropriate, as in that case we are talking about a dish typical in the whole region of the former Ottoman empire, while in this case the Emilian origins are crystal clear.Desyman (talk) 21:21, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
- @E4024: Who made you make Category:Turkish pastırma? I could see Category:Pastırma in Turkey maybe, but that's a different issue. I guess there was a desire to differentiate between similar but perhaps slightly different foods with different names in different countries of the former Ottoman empire. I don't see that as an issue with mortadella. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I also think so; so what? Sucuk, pastırma, many Turkish dishes were imposed to me as "universal" and I had to make cats like Category:Turkish pastırma or Category:Turkish sucuk. Tell the Italians to do the same Category:Mortadella of Italy, Category:Italian mortadella or Category:Mortadella in Italy... --E4024 (talk) 07:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Stale discussion. It seems to be a solved CFD. I guess we can close as keep--Estopedist1 (talk) 20:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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