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Löschen wegen Typo Berlinschneid (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: Deleted, as per nom. --rimshottalk 23:57, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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empty category. DR's are finished Goodbye 2021, Hello 2022 (talk) 09:40, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: please tag it for speedy deletion next time. --plicit 14:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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empty category. DR's are finished Goodbye 2021, Hello 2022 (talk) 09:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: please tag it for speedy deletion next time. --plicit 14:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting deletion, I moved the category to Category:Barnstars made by SpurriousCorrelation. All files have been migrated to the new category, and there are no pages linking to this one. Jerm (talk) 04:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't really need discussion. I've tagged it for deletion. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlikely alternate title, not consistent with similar categories. Currently redirects to Category:Huipils of Mexico, which is correctly titled. Nosferattus (talk) 17:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Closed I don't see need for further discussion, nominator already renamed it "Huipils of Yucatán"; in use and in proper parent categories. As the category was at this former name for more than 7 years until earlier today, leave as redirect now. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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created by mistake should be Category:Sculptures in Subcarpathian Voivodeship Fallaner (talk) 20:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. No need for discussions on accidental creations. Use {{Bad name}} instead. -- Themightyquill (talk) 16:02, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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created by mistake should be Category:Reliefs in Subcarpathian Voivodeship Fallaner (talk) 20:50, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. No need for discussions on accidental creations. Use {{Bad name}} instead. -- Themightyquill (talk) 16:03, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I accidentally created this category when creating Category:Eintracht Frankfurt graffiti. Please delete. CaptainOlimar42 (talk) 01:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


The result was speedy delete by Túrelio. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:47, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Umbenennung der Kategorie so dass mein richtiger Name (Jascha Urbach) dort steht und nicht mehr der Alte (Stephan Urbach). JaschaUrbach (talk) 07:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: per unpleasant de:Diskussion:Jascha Urbach, redirecting Category:Stephan Urbach should be kept. --Achim55 (talk) 09:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This category is over-stuffed with images. Although it's known that the Speedmaster was being worn in many of these, they're not visible. Only images where the watch is at least visible should be included here. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am the guy who created this category today with a good reason: All these pics were until today in the main category Category:Omega Speedmaster - which was not good at all, as the normal pics of the watch itself vanished in all the space pics. As to the question if on many pics the watch is not visible as stated - I did not check all, but tend to disagree. For example, in File:Gemini 10 prime crew (Young and Collins).jpg, the left astronaut has the watch on his left arm, hence it is in the middle. Naturally, the pics are of the astronauts, not of the watch - hence, the watch is hardly visible on most images. I agree though that if the watch is not recognizable at all (Andy, can you provide an example please?) they should be removed from the category. Regards, Pittigrilli (talk) 18:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm happy to withdraw this.
I came here from File:Ed White First American Spacewalker - GPN-2000-001180.jpg. I hadn't realised for these EVA images just how high up the arm they were wearing the watch. If I look more closely, I can see it. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Funny, I was also thoroughly surprised the first time that they did all wear it almost at elbow height ;-) Ok, so we can settle this. Greetings, Pittigrilli (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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please do something about this category, bots apparently move pictures with user input "None" meaning "no category" into "None, Italy". Enyavar (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


The result was convert to a DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant zu Category:Camptourist Lord van Tasm @ de:WP (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Only (possible) member of the category is the Category:Camptourist. All Camptourists were mady by IFA. So all Camptourists are IFA Camptourits and vice-versa. So there is no need for such a Category, it is absolutely redundant to its only member. Lord van Tasm @ de:WP (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per above. -- 32X (talk) 09:13, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Recreate a previously deleted category that does not achieve sufficient popularity or importance Osama Eid (talk) 17:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Closing: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Spelling error in name, speedy delete please Judithcomm (talk) 12:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Closing: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Not in use, seems to be an accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:45, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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promotional. non relevant, MiguelAlanCS (talk) 22:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What action are you looking for here? Deletion of the content too?
I would support this, agreeing that they're all promotional and outside SCOPE. They're used in one article, on es:WP, and that's up for deletion too. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Cat for attack purpose, see also DR of file File:Jakob-Jark-Marcob.jpg. Stang 19:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Closing: cat was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Borrar esta categoria por favor. 191.126.150.54 01:44, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Delete content and category. Spammy self-promotion, against COM:NOTHOST Andy Dingley (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: Deleted. Images are already tagged for deletion. --Achim55 (talk) 08:42, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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99895146767 84.54.78.13 13:45, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Close as test edit. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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What is this category about? What are "rustic dresses"? Should it be "White traditional clothing" (see Category talk:Traditional clothing by country)? JopkeB (talk) 15:38, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This makes no sense to me either. I would lean towards deletion. -- Themightyquill (talk) 16:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This category can be renamed to Category:White traditional clothing. ✓ Done --JopkeB (talk) 08:00, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnecessary category, please delete it. Thyj (talk) 12:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Túrelio on 26. Jan. 2022. GeorgHHtalk   23:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This category should be merged with Category:Logos of casinos Astros4477 (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Agree: to be merged Estopedist1 (talk) 13:10, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: per nomination. --plicit 00:54, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The plural of 'taxon' is 'taxa', not 'taxons'. If kept, it should be renamed. I do wonder though: what is its purpose? Is it needed at all? MPF (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MPF: It was created before the deployment of the infobox to most taxon categories - back then, Pi bot avoided any categories that used e.g., {{Taxonavigation}}, and this category was used to demonstrate that the infobox also benefited taxon categories via manually added uses. That's changed since then, so perhaps this could go, and we just use Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox. I suggest waiting for a bit to see if anyone else has any comments, after which I can deprecate this category (needs a minor change to the infobox code, then waiting for the cache to purge). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel: - thanks! Can the same be said about Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox providing interwiki links? Another category which I can't see any purpose for other than cluttering up the Cat-a-lot menu. - MPF (talk) 23:01, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, I guess that's related to Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/03/Category:Interwiki from wikidata. I don't do anything active with the tracking category. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mike Peel: - any further progress on this one, please? It would be nice if these could both be deleted so they don't clutter up the top of the Cat-a-lot menu. Thanks! - MPF (talk) 00:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MPF: The template no longer adds these two tracking categories, so we just need to wait for the cache to catch up, then hopefully we can delete both. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:18, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MPF: Both are now retired and deleted. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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This seems like an oddly specific category, of little practical use. FunkMonk (talk) 08:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete --Achim55 (talk) 10:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Not seeing any educational value in this subjective category. Or humor. Llwyld (talk) 09:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per above, creator agrees. -- CptViraj (talk) 09:57, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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obviously an error! I think this is the description of the File: thumb and should be placed there. ProfessorX (talk) 15:04, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete unnecessary and empty category. GeorgHHtalk   00:04, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per above. -- CptViraj (talk) 10:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Repeat category, should be deleted Matthew T Rader (talk) 22:07, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Redirected to Category:Neighborhoods in Dallas. -- CptViraj (talk) 10:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Can be deleted, template FoP Burundi is deleted by request of user who made it. Ellywa (talk) 16:56, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted per above, creator agrees. -- CptViraj (talk) 10:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:PORN, COM:HOST. Provides no encyclopedic value, no feasible usage in any article. User:Btmpnr01 has had multiple image deletions for the same reason, in my opinion their history indicates that their primary use of Wikimedia is to host a personal collection of pornographic content. Ms-Isabel (talk) 04:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that these images are out of scope but this isn’t the way to go about deleting them; I also disagree with your assumption of bad faith from the uploader. Dronebogus (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Kept. I kept all 5 images. It's unpleasant to say, but Commons hosts images about every perversity. Taivo (talk) 14:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think we need a category (or the related Wikidata item, either, though that's not in the scope here) for one image of a key to a particular cemetery. If we had multiple images of keys to cemeteries, then we could have a category called "Cemetery keys" (plural), but this is only one. Auntof6 (talk) 02:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete I agree, also regarding the Wikidata item (which contains several errors btw). -- H005 07:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete currently unnecessary. GeorgHHtalk   23:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 07:33, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This category contains only one file, which would be better placed in Category:Phocomelia due to thalidomide. Any thalidomide scandal related media would probably be better placed in Category:Thalidomide itself. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 01:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Kept - I've rearranged some files to separate the specific birth defects from the scandal as a whole. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Another unusable "nude female" collector's category. It contains multiple undefined topics in a mash-up of "cultural", "ethnic' and "religious" as though we can just throw those things in a big pile. It is a subcategory of both "nude female" and "nude or partially nude women" categories, and it is a parent category of two "nude or partially nude women" subcategories. Throw this away and put each file in already existing relevant categories. Ruff tuff cream puff (talk) 06:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Commons is not the place for obsessive subdivision of nudes. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:33, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this category necessary? It doesn't seem to have a home in the category tree. No other "Executive of [country x]" categories. -- Themightyquill (talk) 19:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per nomination Estopedist1 (talk) 09:02, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This category is a mis-spelling of "Gayundah", which already has a category. Motacilla (talk) 11:51, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete it then. Or redirect it, I'm probably not the only person who assumed it was spelled the same as the name of the town. Kerry Raymond (talk) 11:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Per Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with Geo slam and linked sites -Killarnee (CTU) 17:34, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 18:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused, likely accidental creation, should be deleted Dronebogus (talk) 07:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:28, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Likely part of a series of accidental creations Dronebogus (talk) 07:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:49, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:33, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:52, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category created for 1 photo which is already categorized under Nude Men Mjrmtg (talk) 22:29, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. Redundant category. No equivalent exists (Category:Nude female body) Estopedist1 (talk) 13:11, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Unclear what this (unique?) subcategory is actually saying. If these maps are inaccurate, they should go, if they are no better or worse than any other original map, why the subcategory? There was a deletion discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Maps of the Netherlands as imagined by wikipedians in 2010 that proposed merging the category or deleting it as out of scope, but nothing came of it. Lord Belbury (talk) 19:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per nomination Estopedist1 (talk) 10:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aha - so that is the reason why so many NL maps turned up in our fantasy maps category... --Enyavar (talk) 12:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Empty category Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove: duplicate category created because of slip of mind Periegetes (talk) 14:55, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. You can use the template {{Badname}} for deletions like this. No need for discussion. ––Apalsola tc 15:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC) –– (fix) Apalsola tc 15:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertisement, questionable notability, see the discussion on en.wp Emu (talk) 17:06, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete CV spamming. Delete cat and content. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:29, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete --Gymnicus (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Tol (talk | contribs) @ 15:07, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete --Oursana (talk) 22:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:38, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Needs to be removed: duplicate name (but 'Autour' with capital). Ecritures (talk) 21:07, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 18:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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unclear use case beyond advertisement (same for images) Emu (talk) 00:36, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Weak keep. Promotional, certainly. But WP:N isn't policy here. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then you will no doubt be able to point to the policy that says GF uploaders of their own work who follow the instructions given to them during our upload process will have it summarily deleted as a consequence of doing just what they're told to do. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted; all files were deleted in March per Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Kustnastya. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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engine was not built in 1879, it was built in 1874 Mef.ellingen (talk) 23:17, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted by Rosenzweig. -- CptViraj (talk) 07:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Accidental creation Dronebogus (talk) 07:53, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


deleted: accidental creation Estopedist1 (talk) 12:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Name change to a standard use of other similar categories Bes-ARTTalk 19:23, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Mhmrodrigues (talk) 00:26, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Actually I didn't see this CFD, and already moved it, because it seemed uncontroversial move Estopedist1 (talk) 09:32, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Deletion request found in Category:Incomplete deletion requests - missing reason. My guess is that User:TriscaGiu wants to delete this category because another category is correctly named, Category:La forza del destino. Thuresson (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete solution per @Thuresson Estopedist1 (talk) 12:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected to the correct name. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 21:55, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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This category should be moved to Category:Esports, the most common name used to reference the subject, along with all instances of subcategories changed from "electronic sports" to "esports". This would also mirror the naming conventions used on the English Wikipedia. Pbrks (talk) 16:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Support solution per enwiki en:Esports Estopedist1 (talk) 08:37, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Support - per convention on English Wikipedia. It is the much simpler and common name for the subject. Yeeno (talk) 22:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Only support and no opposition after one year. Initiating move as nominator. – Pbrks (t • c) 22:29, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Subdivision inutile de la catégorie "Mairies-écoles in Hautes-Alpes" (1C, 1F en tout) Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:21, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category just asking to be more filled in. It would be better to work on it instead of trying to delete it. --Birdie (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: rational for deletion no longer applies, more files have been added. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:46, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Subdivision inutile de la catégorie "Mairies-écoles in Hautes-Alpes" (1C, 1F en tout) Fr.Latreille (talk) 21:22, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category just asking to be more filled in. It would be better to work on it instead of trying to delete it. --Birdie (talk) 09:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: rational for deletion no longer applies, more files have been added. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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In this village does not exist church with this name. Image from this category can be found in Category:St. Demetrius Church (Podareš), as it is proper name of the church. Ehrlich91 (talk) 09:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: per nomination. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 Delete - not placed in the right place of the category tree; content could be completely moved to Category:Election maps of São Paulo (state). Enyavar (talk) 02:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In “Category:Electoral districts” there were 2 maps (File:Zonas Eleitorais em SBC 2016.png + File:Zonas Eleitorais em São Paulo 2012 (2ºTurno).png) and I created the above-mentioned “Category:Electoral districts of São Paulo” for them. I appreciate your choice to move these maps to “Category:Election maps of São Paulo (state)” and “Category:Election maps of São Paulo (city)” accordingly. Thus my category is empty and not necessary now. --Elkost (talk) 14:11, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done: per nomination. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:57, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Empty category Bruce The Deus (talk) 14:04, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: empty category. --Kritzolina (talk) 08:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnecessary fork of Category:Bahay na Pula. Both categories are just the same — they both depict the same building [!!!]. Only difference is that the 2022 show the building in derelict condition, but a separate category is unnecessary since the mother category has only 6 image files, while this one has 28 files. This category only encourages COM:REDUNDANT and COM:WEBHOSTing content. All files have been moved to the rightful mother category. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:58, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


✓ Done: Per discussion. 2022 category is not yet necessary. --Abzeronow (talk) 19:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]