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Flickr bot Malfunction Again!
Dear Admins and Other Users,
The Flickr bot has stopped working for almost 2 days now and the flickr backlog is now 3400+ images. Can someone fix the bot…again please? Something is not quite right with the flickrbot AntiCompositeNumber
- Pinging the maintainers: @Eatcha, Multichill, Stang, Steinsplitter, WhitePhosphorus, and Zhuyifei1999: Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is getting ridiculous. @AntiCompositeNumber, Is some form of auto-reboot possible either by the bot itself, or via weekly cron job? I think there is something wrong with it's handling of failed LRs. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 18:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Alachuckthebuck Yes, there are a few ways to do that. For iNaturalistReviewBot I have a health check set up, so that it touches a file every time it reviews a file or checks for files to review. If it doesn't do that for long enough (about 10 minutes in my case), the Toolforge infrastructure will automatically restart it.[1][2] Setting that up does take some knowledge of how the bot works, but it's fairly simple if you have that knowledge. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. The situation is getting very bad. Is there anyone who can fix this problem soon. License Reviewers cannot mark 3,000+ images as we have real life jobs. the flickrbot breaks down every few weeks. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know if any other bot operators such as MGA73 can do anything at all sadly. The situation is bad. Hopefully, the flickr review backlog does not reach 5,000 images next. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 10:22, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- There is a usurping procedure, @AntiCompositeNumber, are you interested in usurping the bot? All the Best -- Chuck Talk 15:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- The wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy requires the tool to be non-functional for 14 days or for all maintainers to be completely inactive for 28 days. Neither is the case. I also don't have the capacity to maintain another tool at the moment, though if one of the current maintainers wanted to give me access to the tool I could help with restarts. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:44, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Same here, I’m also wondering if an admin only reboot page could be used, or if it wouldn’t work when the bot hangs. (I’m thinking along the lines of a klaxon system that auto reboots the bot. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 15:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber since you're now a maintainer, could you reboot the bot please? It's reaching nearly 7,000 images now... BrazilianDude70 (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have restarted the bot. I doubt I'll have a chance to fix things properly, especially since whatever caused the bot to stop doesn't appear in the logs, but feel free to ping me if it stops working again. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber I recently added health checks for Deletion Notification Bot 2 and CommonsDelinker; I'd be happy to add one for this bot if you'd like to add me as maintainer. My toolforge username is also Mdaniels5757. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757 Sure, done. Good luck, the hand-written kubernetes jobs are in
~/jobs.yaml
, the bot code is in~/o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py
or https://yifeibot.toolforge.org/gitweb/?p=botscripts.git;a=blob;f=o/toolserver/bryan/flickr/bots/flickreviewr.py;h=99b13230fb69806edda810e0a25310d63db3e59b;hb=refs/heads/master. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Mdaniels5757 Sure, done. Good luck, the hand-written kubernetes jobs are in
- @AntiCompositeNumber I recently added health checks for Deletion Notification Bot 2 and CommonsDelinker; I'd be happy to add one for this bot if you'd like to add me as maintainer. My toolforge username is also Mdaniels5757. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have restarted the bot. I doubt I'll have a chance to fix things properly, especially since whatever caused the bot to stop doesn't appear in the logs, but feel free to ping me if it stops working again. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @AntiCompositeNumber since you're now a maintainer, could you reboot the bot please? It's reaching nearly 7,000 images now... BrazilianDude70 (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Same here, I’m also wondering if an admin only reboot page could be used, or if it wouldn’t work when the bot hangs. (I’m thinking along the lines of a klaxon system that auto reboots the bot. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 15:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- The wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy requires the tool to be non-functional for 14 days or for all maintainers to be completely inactive for 28 days. Neither is the case. I also don't have the capacity to maintain another tool at the moment, though if one of the current maintainers wanted to give me access to the tool I could help with restarts. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:44, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- There is a usurping procedure, @AntiCompositeNumber, are you interested in usurping the bot? All the Best -- Chuck Talk 15:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/User:Dr Julie Dee Bell
Could an admin take a look at Commons:Deletion requests/User:Dr Julie Dee Bell? This could be a case of COM:G7 given the similarity between the name of the user page being nominated for deletion and the name of user nominating the page for deletion. It also could be a case of COM:G10 or COM:GA2. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- User:Julie Dee Bell has been a problem user all along, in my view. Commons:Deletion requests/File:God Centric.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/File:God calculation for time travel machines.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Julie Dee Bell. I see on the last one that P 1 9 9 approved the deletion but then did not delete File:God Calculation.jpg and File:Earth’s Galaxy.jpg. I don't know whether Dr Julie Dee Bell is the same person or a different one, but nearly all of their uploads have been deleted, plus a bunch of categories that were deleted for being only for their uploads; also earlier versions of their user page were deleted as self-promotion. However, there's been none of this "God calculation" stuff, it's been all related to oil sands, and is not as obviously bogus. - Jmabel ! talk 03:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at this Jmabel. Personally, I've got nothing invested in whether the user page is deleted or kept; for reference, though, the same user seem to have created another DR for the same page or just copied at pasted the first one and added it to Commons:Deletion requests/User:Dr Julie Dee Bell. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think User:Julie Dee Bell got recreated with the god computer stuff. Support blocking the DUCK and the master. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 18:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at this Jmabel. Personally, I've got nothing invested in whether the user page is deleted or kept; for reference, though, the same user seem to have created another DR for the same page or just copied at pasted the first one and added it to Commons:Deletion requests/User:Dr Julie Dee Bell. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Indeffed for global lock evasion and uploading out of scope files after warning. Global lock applied for at Metawiki for the former. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Double move needed.
Since other projects have decided on the new Syrian flag, File:Flag of Syria.svg should be moved to Flag of the United Arab Republic (1958–1971), Flag of Syria (1980–2024).svg and File:Flag of the Syrian revolution.svg should be moved to File:Flag of Syria.svg simultaneously. I'd rather not do this move myself. Abzeronow (talk) 18:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow: I trust you pretty far, and I am willing to stick my neck out for what is likely to be a somewhat controversial move, but can you cite some indication of consensus a little more specific than "other projects have decided"? - Jmabel ! talk 21:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- English Wikipedia: en:Talk:Syria#RfC: Flag? closed as B, Syrian revolutionary flag and en:Flag of Syria shows it.
- French Wikipedia: fr:Drapeau de la Syrie.
- Arabic Wikipedia: ar: علم_سوريا
- German Wikipedia: de:Flagge Syriens
- Italian Wikipedia: it:Bandiera della Siria
- Spanish Wikipedia: es:Bandera de Siria
- Russian Wikipedia: ru:Флаг Сирии are all in agreement. d:Q45136 shows both, notes revolutionary flag as de facto. Abzeronow (talk) 21:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Would that automatically feed the new flag into ~500 Wikipedia pages regardless of context and caption? Like when File:Flag of Syria.svg is now used to illustrate that this is the flag that was adopted in 1980 and after the move it shows the 2024 flag without hint in the page history or any other warning to the Wikipedia editors? Rudolph Buch (talk) 22:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rudolph Buch: Correct. However the projects have backed themselves into a weird corner because there's also templates that - instead of asking for an image - automatically pull the file with the name "Flag of [country name].svg" - and those would have the wrong image if we don't move it.
- All: Did we have a similar discussion when Afghanistan changed their flag? Flag of Afghanistan redirects to File:Flag of the Taliban.svg. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: since they moved Flag of Afghanistan (and can answer that question). Abzeronow (talk) 20:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow: thank you.
- @Rudolph Buch and The Squirrel Conspiracy: I can't tell whether those are objections to the move or not. - Jmabel ! talk 19:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: I don't object. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: I don´t object either, it just seems like a bad idea to me. It´s the local editor´s job to keep their pages current, not common´s. When a commons file is deleted, delinker-bot at least puts a message in the page history to enable them to do a check. Clandestine changes of article content may not be appreciated by every sister project, especially when it produces errors. Newly inserting a wrong image seems somehow worse than not-updating outdated ones. With 110,000+ wikipedia articles concerned (I meanwhile found the globalusage tool and it´s more than I initially thought) there´s a lot of potential for mistakes and anger. You move if you want, but usually I´d expect discussion at villagepump/proposals for topics with potential for harm on a six-digit-number of wikipedia pages. Rudolph Buch (talk) 23:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Rudolph Buch: I'm not sure I really see the difference between that and an objection. It sounds like you are saying, "I object, but I'm not going to prevent you. Do this at your own peril because I think this is out of process." So what process, exactly, would you prefer? - Jmabel ! talk 05:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, exact semantics are difficult in foreign languages. For me, "objection" means saying "no" with the expectation that it stops you. As I merely wanted to say (in a mellow tone) that I think your intended action is unwise but I will respect your decisionmaking anyway and of course make no fuss about it, "objection" seemed the wrong word. To your question: Option (1) is to do nothing and to trust the wiki editors in updating their pages. Option (2) is to rename File:Flag of Syria.svg to File:Flag of Syria (1980).svg without leaving a redirect. This will lead to a huge amount of broken image links (which is bad) but prompt the editors to check what flag is right for the respective page (which is good). Option (3) is to let a bot replace File:Flag of Syria.svg by File:Flag of the Syrian revolution.svg at all wiki pages. This will lead to an amount of false inserts but the change shows up in watchlists and page history, so editors are warned. I don´t know if this is technically feasible but it would by my preferred mode. You may want to make sure that no bot can do that before you draw Option (4) which is Abzeronow´s suggestion. Rudolph Buch (talk) 14:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Given that it is clear that this is controversial, I'm not making the move.
- NONE of what Rudolph Buch has written above looks to me like a process for making a decision. It is just a list of what that decision might be.
- I propose that we reopen this question on COM:VP: if the action to take is really in question, then this is a community matter, not an administrative matter. Would someone like to start a thread there, paraphrasing the substance of what has been discussed here? If not, I'll probably get to it some time in the next 36 hours. I'm out the door in 15 minutes, which does not give me time to address this now. - Jmabel ! talk 19:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind COM:VP discussion. Abzeronow (talk) 19:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Jmabel, that´s a strange answer. Either you consider my concerns as legit and do whatever you want to do to make your decision. I can´t tell you what process that is because it´s your decision. Or you think that the move is not "really" in question, then go on and move. Rudolph Buch (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of proposed file moves, there are only two special roles for an admin:
- Identify the prevailing view in the community.
- Implement it.
- In matters that are potentially controversial, we are no more supposed to make decisions unilaterally than anyone else. COM:AN is not the place to get a proper consensus about what flag is appropriate for a particular country, because this page is mainly read by admins, aspiring admins, and people who have recently raised an issue to the admins. COM:VP, on the other hand, is the page where people are invited to participate in decisions that require some community breadth. There is nothing strange about my saying that I won't use my admin tools to implement a "decision" that apparently has not been decided.
- I'll start a discussion at COM:VP#Syrian flag, paraphrasing the relevant content from above. - Jmabel ! talk 00:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of proposed file moves, there are only two special roles for an admin:
- Sorry, exact semantics are difficult in foreign languages. For me, "objection" means saying "no" with the expectation that it stops you. As I merely wanted to say (in a mellow tone) that I think your intended action is unwise but I will respect your decisionmaking anyway and of course make no fuss about it, "objection" seemed the wrong word. To your question: Option (1) is to do nothing and to trust the wiki editors in updating their pages. Option (2) is to rename File:Flag of Syria.svg to File:Flag of Syria (1980).svg without leaving a redirect. This will lead to a huge amount of broken image links (which is bad) but prompt the editors to check what flag is right for the respective page (which is good). Option (3) is to let a bot replace File:Flag of Syria.svg by File:Flag of the Syrian revolution.svg at all wiki pages. This will lead to an amount of false inserts but the change shows up in watchlists and page history, so editors are warned. I don´t know if this is technically feasible but it would by my preferred mode. You may want to make sure that no bot can do that before you draw Option (4) which is Abzeronow´s suggestion. Rudolph Buch (talk) 14:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Rudolph Buch: I'm not sure I really see the difference between that and an objection. It sounds like you are saying, "I object, but I'm not going to prevent you. Do this at your own peril because I think this is out of process." So what process, exactly, would you prefer? - Jmabel ! talk 05:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Prussian templates
Well, it seems that my translations are off-line with the rest; specifying "action" and an extra inconsistency using tikinna and gāncas at the same time...
I decided to make a few, more consistent ones.
Segīsenis gāncas → Izpilninuns
Ni tikinna → Ni izpilninuns
Segīsenis jāu gāncas → Jāu izpilninuns
I also decided to try to improve the {{Half done}} template.
Delīkiskas wangīnsna → Puswangīnuns
Izpilnintun: To carry out, or to fulfil
Wangīntun: To finish, to end, to complete
Also, * <!--pnb-->{{Lang-mp-loader|pnb|مکھ صفحہ}}
on {{Lang-mp}} can be Found and Replaced into
* <!--pnb-->{{Lang-mp-loader|pnb|مکھ صفحہ}} * <!--prg-->{{Lang-mp-loader|prg|Galwas pāusan}}
.
Did that so that you would have a easier time placing it in the right spot. Kxeo (talk) 17:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- This needs to be done by a translation administrator. I suggest you post to the Commons:Translators' noticeboard for a more direct response Bastique ☎ let's talk! 00:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alrighty then, moving again... thx :P Kxeo (talk) 03:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Administrator who understands French
Does anyone know of a Commons administrator who understands French? An IP responded to a file tagged for speedy deletion at User talk:SimmerAlain#File:Alain Simmer.jpg in what I believe is French. The IP seems to be claiming that they're copyright holder of the file that was deleted (at least per Google Translate), but I'm not sure. Perhaps a French speaking admin could help sort this out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The deleting admin @Yann. Regards, Aafi (talk) 05:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I answered in French there. This is about a book cover, so a permission is needed. Yann (talk) 09:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
NC license
File:Affiche de l'exposition temporaire de Hans Hartung et Anna-Eva Bergman au Musée de la Poste (1980-1981).jpg is licensed as {{cc-by-sa-4.0}}, but the file's description and source url state it's licensed under a NC license. I'm assuming that means it's eligible for speedy deletion, but I just not sure which criterion applies since F1, F4 and F6 all seem applicable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Clear one. This is gone. Regards, Aafi (talk) 05:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking into this Aafi. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Disruptive vandal
User:Shumadan62 has been reuploading a photoshopped image depicting himself with Danielle Bradbery despite a previous speedy deletion. The image is being used for cross-wiki vandalism via sockpuppet accounts, and he is blocked on enwiki. Please Refer to this ANI thread on enwiki and delete the offending image. Thanks, Ca (talk) 15:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Last warning for vandalism sent, file deleted. Yann (talk) 16:38, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now he is back with a sockpuppet account, uploading the exact same image. User:Maddy Murk Ca (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done I think he got enough warning, so both accounts are blocked indef. They should be globally locked. Thanks for reporting. Yann (talk) 18:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the first account that started all this was User talk:Handsomehen. He's currently neither blocked nor marked as sockpuppet.
The report on User:Shumadan62 on Meta also doesn't seem to include Handsomehen yet.(edit: it's there, I just missed it) Nakonana (talk) 21:04, 18 December 2024 (UTC)- But on Commons, Maddy Murk is the oldest account. We also probably need a request for check user. Yann (talk) 21:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think the first account that started all this was User talk:Handsomehen. He's currently neither blocked nor marked as sockpuppet.
- Done I think he got enough warning, so both accounts are blocked indef. They should be globally locked. Thanks for reporting. Yann (talk) 18:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now he is back with a sockpuppet account, uploading the exact same image. User:Maddy Murk Ca (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Would moving People of the State of Palestine by year subcats into People of the Palestinian territories by year be a controversial request?
There's a split category tree at Category:People of the Palestinian territories by year (1970-2012) and Category:People of the State of Palestine by year (2013-present). The actual contents are largely the same - Category:Mahmoud Abbas in 2012 versus Category:Mahmoud Abbas in 2013 - so I don't see any reason why the split should exist. However, I'm hesitant to just tell the bots to fix this because that's only for uncontroversial moves, and Palestinian tend to be controversial. Thoughts? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Since Category:People of the Palestinian territories by year goes back to Category:People of the State of Palestine, I think it'd be better to just put State of Palestine. Bedivere (talk) 23:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Migingo
Someone uploaded this photo but is actually taken from this website. I think We have to remove It. AnticoMu90 (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Deleted as a copybright violation. The source doesn't have a free license. Regards, Aafi (talk) 09:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
FYI
I indeffed Manojnath484 for obvious spamming. They've been given a plenty of warnings previously but I'd want to hear from others here in case I have been hard on them. Regards, Aafi (talk) 15:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @CptViraj: any opinions on this user's userpage? Regards, Aafi (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- U3'ed; Intention of an article. Thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Commons:Undeletion requests
Now that Commons:Undeletion requests is empty, something very unusual, I would like to give a shoutout to those users to regularly help out with dealing with requests there: @Yann: , @Jameslwoodward: , @Bastique: , @Abzeronow: , @Ankry: , @The Squirrel Conspiracy: , @Rosenzweig: , @King of Hearts: , @Ruthven: , @Aafi: , @Elcobbola: and any other regulars there. Thuresson (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
IPBE for CuratorBot
Hi. The account CuratorBot (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) requires IPBE as the IP address where my OpenRefine runs is blocked as No-open proxies. Could an admin assign it please? Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 21:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @DaxServer Done —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)