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This move

[1] please restore user talk page --Motopark (talk) 08:45, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Revent (talk) 08:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

This move

[2] some user talkpge move--Motopark (talk) 08:52, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Also ✓ Done. Revent (talk) 08:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

FoP Honduras. Change to only personal use?

Ram H has been reported in the Spanish café in the following modification:

ARTÍCULO 52.- Es lícita la reproducción, para uso personal, de una obra de arte expuesta permanentemente en las calles, plazas u otros lugares públicos, por medio de un arte diverso al empleado para la elaboración del original. Respecto de los edificios, dicha facultad se limita a la fachada exterior
http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/es/text.jsp?file_id=234858

In my opinion this change would not accommodate new images on Commons. Opinions? Alan (talk) 09:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

"Para uso personal" (for personal use) rules out any commercial reuse which makes it inappropriate for Commons. But this version of Article 52 does not have a personal use clause. Both sources refer to Decreto No. 4-99-E from 13 December 1999 so apparently there has not been a change but the question arises: which one is the authentic rendition of the law? De728631 (talk) 17:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
See notes 1 and 18 in the document linked by Alan. It's an updated version. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:08, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
It seems that art. 52 of http://www.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/es/hn/hn015es.pdf origins from Ley No. 424-06 [2006] de Implementación del Tratado de Libre Comercio (http://www.seic.gov.do/media/13680/Ley%20424-06%20Implementaci%C3%B3n%20DR-CAFTA.pdf) which modified per art. 38 the FOP issue. Gunnex (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, your link is to the law of the Dominican Republic. But yes, there would be a law of Honduras about the same topic. Official Journal: http://www.sice.oas.org/TPD/USA_CAFTA/Implementation/HND_legislation/DEC_162006_s.pdf, pp. 13-14. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

La página oficial del IP (Instituto de la Propiedad) de Honduras http://www.ip.gob.hn/index.php/propiedad-intelectual/preguntas-frecuentes-intelectual/2-uncategorised/42-preguntas-frecuentes-derechos-autor dirige hacia la página de WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization), por lo que el documento de 2006 debería ser el oficial. Lo que preocupa es que si aplicamos la ley retro activamente muchas de las imágenes ya alojadas deberían ser borradas.--Ram H (talk) 21:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


Dominican Republic: Artículo 38. Se modifica el Artículo 39 de la Ley No.65-00 sobre Derecho de Autor a los fines de que en lo sucesivo rece de la siguiente manera: “Artículo 39.- Se podrá reproducir para uso personal por medio de pinturas, dibujos, fotografías o fijaciones audiovisuales, las obras que estén colocadas de modo permanente en vías públicas, calles o plazas. En lo que se refiere a obras de arquitectura; esta disposición es sólo aplicable a su aspecto exterior.” --Ram H (talk) 21:35, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

What puzzles me is why Honduras decided to change that particular point of its law. Here is the text of the treaty: https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/cafta-dr-dominican-republic-central-america-fta/final-text. See Chapter 15. I only browsed it very quickly, but I didn't notice that it would require the elimination of FoP. Did the Honduras government decide to make this change independently of the treaty but included it in the implementation law anyway? -- Asclepias (talk) 22:53, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Dominican Republic changed the same law adding "for personal use". --Ram H (talk) 23:20, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie Shoe.wow.gif, deleted before many times--Motopark (talk) 05:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Indeffed account, deleted file, salted filename. @Motopark: Thanks for reporting. Revent (talk) 05:54, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

File:San Diego Comic-Con 2011 - Back to the Future Tales from Space comic book (Profiles in History booth).jpg

Would anyone care to mark this image which has been on Commons for about 1-2 days? This web site makes a reference to this book but I don't know if it is free or copyrighted. Kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

SonnyLiew2014.jpg

Kindly delete from the file history the original version of the photograph File:SonnyLiew2014.jpg that contained an unlicensed, non-de minimis derivative work which I have pixellated. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 14:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Alan (talk) 14:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 14:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete and inform uploader from licences

File:IndoreMontage.png there are many pictures with all right reserved and uploader gives different information, please inform uploader to check right licence and delete this montage, see uploaders history, this picture has been deleted before.--Motopark (talk) 11:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Done by Denniss. Alan (talk) 14:10, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie-shoe-arent-real-but-Selfie Shoes.wow.gif, deleted many times before--Motopark (talk) 02:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done I blocked Mattita 23 (talk · contribs) undefinitely, tagged him as sockpuppet of Fritella and deleted all his contributions. Taivo (talk) 10:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Broken file

This file page does not show an image. Can the image be recovered? Otherwise it should be deleted. Thanks. --Magnus (talk) 09:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

File not found: /v1/AUTH_mw/wikipedia-commons-local-public.a2/a/a2/Temde.JPG
Deleted. Alan (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. --Magnus (talk) 14:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
You can report this problem on phabricator:. --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

Image orthicon user has removed twice my speedy deletion tag--Motopark (talk) 04:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done. Érico (msg) 06:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Manifestation contre les clandestins, l'immigration-invasion et l'islamisation de l'Europe le 8 novembre 2015 à Calais, internet links in gallery, big pictures, I try to modify to normal gallery, but somebody restore my edit.--Motopark (talk) 13:50, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I deleted this page. This is political propaganda from racist groups, no place here for that. A neutral article about this demonstration might belong to Wikipedia. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:49, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Picture File:Breendonk-memorial 11.jpg includes many posters with unknown author, shall it delete or what.--Motopark (talk) 13:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done, deleted by Alan as copyright violation. Taivo (talk) 07:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Commons:European Science Photo Competition 2015/Winners

New page of the results of the competition, and it's being vandalized already. Please protect it from unregistered users (probably for a long time). Thank you. --Helixitta (t.) 15:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done --Achim (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Mass DR on own photos

How to handle the past ~400 Edits by Special:Contributions/Rostocker? Seems he nominated all his own photos for deletion after more than 3 years. --95.91.232.214 18:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Someone handy with visualfilechange should speey keep all these nominations as invalid DRs. BTW in early 2015 there were ~50 images of this user tagged as no permission for no apparent reason and deleted afterwards. This may require some investigation and restoring. --Denniss (talk) 20:49, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
{{Delete}} tag removed in files. DRs are still open, IMO VisualFileChange only valid for "File:". --Alan (talk) 21:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done I think..... --Alan (talk) 21:37, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Vandal in need of a quick block

Hi all, I have just blocked Youmeandeveryone (talk · contribs) indefinitely on en as a vandalism only account. They have been uploading images to Commons (all currently marked for speedy deletion) and posting them over there. They may forget about here now that they have been punted from en, but just in case, I figured I'd bring it to your attention. Resolute (talk) 00:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for reporting. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 01:55, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete 'em all

Greetings. If this can be deleted, co can this. Sincerely, --Kwasura (talk) 00:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done I am not sure, the license seems valid. If you do not agree, create a regular deletion request. Taivo (talk) 07:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I am quite happy to keep both files and more. But to my knowledge here in Wikipedia assumed copyright of individual photographer prevailed over the no copyright of the entire government. Therefore both files need to be deleted or kept accordingly. --Kwasura (talk) 00:03, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Please move to right place

Usertalk/79.50.74.247--Motopark (talk) 15:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

help needed with Category:Commons protected edit requests (technical)

Lately we had quite a backlog of protected edit requests. It is mostly gone, but few requests in Category:Commons protected edit requests (technical) remain, and some of them were there for many months. I fulfill the requests if I understand what the page does and the remaining requests are at the pages I do not understand. If someone is familiar with those pages and can evaluate the request, please either fulfill it or reject it. --Jarekt (talk) 17:38, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Juan Francisco Giacobbe.jpg

Possible abuse of multiple accounts to recreate previously deleted content outside of process? Please have a look at the log. Cheers, —LX (talk, contribs) 15:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

 Info: 3rd upload of the same image deletd twice, see also File:Juan Francisco Giacobbe.jpeg. --Achim (talk) 19:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done Deleted, sockpuppet of Gerardo Chia (talk · contribs) blocked and warned not to upload copyvios again. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie Shoe-arent-real-but wow.gif deleted plenty of times before--Motopark (talk) 03:34, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I note the uploader has taken to decorating its socks’ user pages with spurious advanced-permission userboxen and such, presumably copied from other users. Any possibility of preventing the IP or range from creating accounts? Or at least an edit filter to stop the uploads?—Odysseus1479 (talk) 04:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
✓ Deleted & blocked As for IP-blocking, CU is needed. For abuse filter, AFAIK uploads don't go through this process (bug), so probably not. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 Info: File:Selfie-shoe-arent-real-but-wow gif.gif deleted as well. --Achim (talk) 17:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 Comment FWIW, I think it makes sense to go ahead and salt these names that won't plausibly ever be used for anything other than this same silly file, at least for a few months. At least break all whatever external links they are trying to use. Revent (talk) 01:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion close

Can someone remind me how (or just can someone do it) to close a discussion? Commons:Deletion requests/ADCIS was a copyright-related DR, and permission has been provided; I've stricken my delete vote, and the nominator has withdrawn. I can't remember what we normally do or how to do it. Nyttend (talk) 19:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Closed it manually (i.e. transcluded the templates needed to tell the bot to archive it). It was never opened 'properly' in the first place... it was not noted on the relevant file pages, which is while the script was confused. Should be sorted, and closed as kept now. Revent (talk) 09:41, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Mos ttss.jpg

It looks at though File:Mos ttss.jpg was uploaded on zh.wikipedia under GFDL, but when it was transferred to Commons it became PD-user. Can someone look into this? -- Robert Weemeyer (talk) 18:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Copy vios

Again loads of copy vios: Special:Contributions/Mzajmi Please delete the pics and block him. Queryzo (talk) 09:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done The user is warned, uploads are either deleted or nominated for deletion. Taivo (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Babudo

Please check images of Babudo: Special:Contributions/Babudo, I'm not sure, wether there are copyrighted Queryzo (talk) 09:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I do not know. You can create a deletion request for all these files. Taivo (talk) 17:58, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Village pump#License changed?

Maybe someone can be interested by this. Regards, --Christian Ferrer (talk) 10:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

COM:CUR. needs update

Hi everyone. COM:CUR is missing at least Venezuela, would it be possible for folks to take a peek at this page and perhaps help fill out the rest of the countries? Much appreciated!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:20, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete picture

Hello, Administrators. I recorded picture "File:BSicon TBHFoe+CPICll.gif". This is a my mistake. It is in the wrong format. Excuse me please and delete this picture please. --MDsmajlik (talk) 12:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done. Alan (talk) 12:41, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Face userpage

User:Girls selfie shoes, see also English wikipedia userpage and uploads--Motopark (talk) 15:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

User page edited, user warned. Yann (talk) 15:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Indef. blocked. Sock puppet. --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie-shoe-arent-real-but-wow n 6979478.wow.gif deleted before many times--Motopark (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Women motorcyclists posing for group selfie on MV Chelan (20278012499).jpg

Could someone other than me please try to communicate with the IPs & others who keep tagging File:Women motorcyclists posing for group selfie on MV Chelan (20278012499).jpg as a copyright violation? It's not. I snapped the photo myself. I think the clumsily expressed issue is that one or more of the people in the photo aren't happy about the picture and would like it removed, but they keep making the same false accusation of a copyright issue. I don't even mind having it deleted as a courtesy deletion if that is what is in order, but I do not like being falsely accused of violating copyrights. - Jmabel ! talk 03:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done No sense to talk with vandals. All the IP-s are blocked, vandalism is reverted. I semi-protected the file for a year. Taivo (talk) 09:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Terminology error in today's potd caption

Please see Template talk:Potd/2015-11-19 (en) for an edit request. Thanks! — hike395 (talk) 05:45, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks! — hike395 (talk) 07:15, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Undo image upload

I thought i was uploading a larger size image, but I screwed up. Can an admin please revert my image upload here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Faro_card_game.jpg

Thanks. -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 18:19, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie-shoe-arent-real-but-wow n 6979478.gif, deleted before--Motopark (talk) 15:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Done by Elcobbola. Alan (talk) 16:39, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Salted the name for six months, since this is apparently being used in external sites, and constantly gets recreated. Revent (talk) 10:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Weird DR closer

Weird closer of deletion request. The uploader is User:Ldorfman. The photographer is Zvi Roger, seems to be different person . No OTRS release approval has been given. What am I missing here? as a matter of a fact all the files in the same category. I made new deletion request Commons:Deletion requests/Files in the Category:Zvi Roger for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.180.177.165 (talk) 12:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Is there any reason to believe that the release is invalid? And ad nauseam aren't helpfull. Natuur12 (talk) 12:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I do wonder why a proxy was used to comment in that DR. Natuur12 (talk) 12:59, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Possible problems with render/caching infrastructure

Please see the Commons:Village pump. I'm not the only one seeing this. Is this something that could be brought to the attention of the WMF ops team? -- The Anome (talk) 14:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

phabricator:T119038 --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Codename nx

Codename nx (talk · contribs) blocked previously for adding copyvio images, mostly purported hacked nude selfies taken by file named subject, back at it. Has been blocked for adding these pornish images to articles on enwiki. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done 1 day after the block expired, (s)he started to upload copyvios. As 1 week was too short block, I blocked him/her for a month. His/her next block should be indefinite. Taivo (talk) 19:10, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppet of Fritella

Sock:


Uploads:

This looks like a very active sockmaster, so I would suggest admins search "selfie shoes" and/or "Miz Mooz", "Mooz", etc, a few times a day. I've reported this sock to Meta for a lock, but that usually takes a while... INeverCry 06:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Nuked and blocked --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Frog King.jpg

Is this image from a poster or a temporary art exhibit. No one has chosen to mark it and I am not sure if I should either. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Creation of blank categories

I'm noticing a pattern where an anon users are creating many blank categories, which I didn't think should be done. [3] has created pages like Category:2014_events_in_Washington,_D.C., Category:2019_in_Guam, Category:2016_in_the_Northern_Mariana_Islands, Category:December_2015_in_Missouri, Category:April_2015_in_Connecticut and many more, all of which are empty. --Mjrmtg (talk) 11:25, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually, not all are empty, although most are. I deleted a lot of them 2 days ago and today also, but started to think: maybe this was not right? "Empty" is a standard reason for deleting a category, so probably they must be deleted. Taivo (talk) 18:29, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I still think other blank categories this user created can be deleted. A lot of place / month / year categories created by this user are empty. Category:February 2015 in Seattle, Category:April 2015 in Missouri, Category:May 2015 in Mexico... --Mjrmtg (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Sure, delete Category:May 2015 in Mexico, of course. It is a well known fact that this year in Mexico April 30th was followed immediately by June 1st — there’s no way this category is of any use, it’s just like Category:February 30th, Category:Five-legged horses or Category:Purplish green square cirles. It is also a very useful and fruitful use of your volonteer time to delete such categories — way more than, say, go throught the items under Category:2015 in Mexico and split them by month. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:12, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Monthly 2015 categories for Mexico include 106 files in 7 of the 12 possible categories — 5 are empty, incluing the one mentioned above. However, there are many thousands of images to be sorted there: Catscan2, with a depth of 8, lists 19189 files. In view of this, and even assuming that some of those(such as most non-photos) are not suited to be classified by month, isn’t it a bit prematute to declare that Category:May 2015 in Mexico is unnecessary? Ditto for all the “needless” categories recklessly listed above. Deleting perfectly good categories instead of working hard at populating them is one of the (many) hallmarks of the lazy Commoner. Don’t be lazy! -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:26, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I wasn't starting an argument. If you can't be civil, please close this discussion. --Mjrmtg (talk) 18:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
No, you weren’t starting an argument: No argument here — empty cat? Boom!, delete it! Just delete it, ignoring the reasons of your fellow editors who created said categories (way to be civil on those, huh?), and, as in the case at hand, ignoring mere logic. Because this is all about following rules, as if rules were an end to themselves, not a tool to smooth work. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:58, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Category:Kimihiro

User add wrong way picture to category, please inform--Motopark (talk) 16:35, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

User page deleted

Please, can anybody explain me why my user page was deleted and/or shifted to "User:Djehouty~commonswiki" while the user talk page remained untouched? How can I continue to operate? Thank you very much for your help!--Djehouty (talk) 16:17, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

The talk page of User:Djehouty~commonswiki was moved to User talk:Djehouty~commonswiki at 04:22 (UTC), 19 April 2015, at the same time as the move of the user page. See the page history. The new talk page of the new account User:Djehouty was (re)created at the same time as a new account reusing that user name was created (log), at 13:36 (UTC), 16 November 2015. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

The notification say that there was another User:Djehouty so I cannot use this name (ceated for the German Wikipedia) on Commons. But I cannot find any User:Djehouty on Commons. This page is empty now. How can I proceed?--Djehouty (talk) 08:22, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Mahie Gill at Not a Love Story film shoot (1).jpg

Can someone delete the first version of this photo because it contains a non-free poster, which I've cropped out. FredWalsh (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Dmitry Medvedev in India 22 December 2010-12.jpeg

Please can someone delete the first version of this file because it contains an unfree photo which cannot be licensed by the Russian Government. Thank you. FredWalsh (talk) 14:51, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 14:53, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

59 image DR

What do you think of this 59 image DR? I would assume that just changing the license to {{Cc0}} from {{Cc-pd}} would fix the problem...since Commons recommends switching from cc-pd to OR cc0/cc-zero. I have changed a few. There was another comment here and the nominator has filed many DR requests in this category Any views? Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

This matter affect at least 5800 files, not just these 59 — see Commons:Village pump#Deleting thousands of Flickr images over faulty PD marking. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 08:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  •  Comment: Josve05a has been reverting my cc0 solution so I hope that the Admins on Commons can resolve the licensing issue of pd images shortly. Especially if 5800 files may be deleted. IMHO, cc0 appears almost similar to pd 1.0 but I am not the copyright expert. I have to sign off now since its very late here in Canada. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Leoboudv: CC-0, and CC-PD, are specific legal texts... you cannot claim that the author of a work has licensed it under those terms unless they have specifically, explicitly done so, just as you cannot claim that a work is "CC-BY" just because the author has made their 'own statement' of similar conditions. You can use tags that describe the 'conditions' under which a work has been released, such as {{Copyrighted free use}} or {{Attribution}}, when the author did not state a specific license, but you cannot claim that an author agreed to a specific license text unless they actually did so. I desperately hope that you have not been making a practice of that when reviewing licenses. Revent (talk) 09:52, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, please read PDM FAQ § 1.3 What is the difference between the PDM and CC0?. Josve05a (talk) 09:56, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

To point out a specific statement from that FAQ, that might help to clarify this.... "Again, please keep in mind that the PDM does not affect the legal status of the work or the legal rights of the author, the person identifying it or others. The PDM serves a marking and labeling function only." The Public Domain Mark is not a license, we cannot claim that works labeled with it are freely licensed, and we cannot claim they are in the public domain without a specific rationale for why they are. Revent (talk) 10:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

@Revent: - I don't think this is an acceptable approach. We should not be considering deleting 5800 images off Commons - images that have been specifically marked by their creators as public domain - with a week's notice. What about images uploaded by editors who have left the project or only edit intermittently and will not have an opportunity to defend them?
If this is a genuine problem (and I’m really not convinced it is) the solution should be geared towards appropriately preserving images rather than mass-listing 5800 images for deletion without providing uploaders with a clear pathway to get images protected. It should start from drafting a form letter to be sent to the original photographers asking them if they have concerns about the use of their images and asking if they wish for their images to be taken down. For the image I have uploaded under this description, I have found the photographer’s e-mail address so can send this over once a suitable letter has been created - I understand it has not been. Then a system can be set up for asking for those emails to be sent to a Wikimedia or OTRS email address. Blythwood (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Permission letters should be sent directly to OTRS from the photographer’s principal contact or website address, to make them easier for the volunteers to authenticate. Where editor/uploaders act as intermediaries there are more chances for miscommunication, complications, and delays.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 10:48, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Personally, I wish that flickr had not created that new cc-pd license which has caused much difficulties to Commons as to its interpretation. A release letter should be created but if the 5800 images have to be deleted, the WikiCommons community should have a vote on this proposed solution. Thank You for your time, --Leoboudv (talk) 19:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

This particular set of images must be deleted just because they have nothing in common with project scope. Incredibly educative photos. As for me, practice of mass uploading from Flickr must be prohibited at all. It results in too many thoughtless uploads. Stas (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

So you're saying parking habits in Ljubljana aren't within project's scope? Delete all photos of parked vehicles then. M★Zaplotnik (edits) 20:51, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
(I imagine Wikipedia article "Parking habits in Ljubljana":-) Even if these habits were within the scope, at least part of these photos do not illustrate any of them and anything at all. With such framing and overall quality, they rather seem to be a result of accidental pushing of the button. Stas (talk) 21:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Stas000D, photo quality was satisfactory (actually better from many similar Flickr streams). I can imagine Wivivoyage article on parking in Ljubljana. Commons is not just for encyclopeadia, it's a free image repository of files potentially useful on any of the Wikimedia projects. But as an uploader of this you should know better I guess... M★Zaplotnik (edits) 05:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm not against good photos of city streets, but I don't consider quality of this particular batch as decent. Heaps of low-quality pictures hamper to search really useful ones (yes, useful for any of the Wikimedia projects). And my funny image, unlike these, has a destination: it helps aligning pieces of lunar map. Stas (talk) 15:45, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

see history of [4] user has been removed copyvios--Motopark (talk) 04:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done. Removal of DR notices on files reverted. Obvious copyright violations deleted. —RP88 (talk) 05:36, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Solicitar borrar imágenes subidas por mi de manera incorrecta

Por favor, solicito se borren todas las imágenes subidas por mi ya que lo hice de manera incorrecta y no se como solucionarlo. Las mismas serían: Osy odae.jpg Osy en Genalguacil.jpg Osy en Recoleta.JPG OsyOdae2.jpg Dr.homnoriscausa.jpg

Atte, AnaRodriSec (talk) 06:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect photo of Congressman LaMar Baker

Hey all,

I searched for about twenty minutes in the FAQ etc here, and didn't find a clear explanation of where I should post this concern.

This is the wikipedia page for my grandfather, former congressman LaMar Baker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaMar_Baker - Until just now, it had this incorrect photo on it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:LaMar_Baker.jpg

That is not his photo. His correct photo can be found here, on the page that the photo references as its source:

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=B000069

The family would love it if we can get the "LaMar_Baker.jpg" photo replaced with a correct one, and have that re-added to the wikipedia page.

Thanks! Ryan Baker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanfbaker (talk • contribs) 19:25, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Mr Baker. As you can see from this archived version of the source page, the photo that you are referring to was originally placed at LaMar Baker's biographical page of the US Congress. As his grandson you may of course know better but I think it would be best if you filed a regular deletion discussion for File:LaMar Baker.jpg. To do so, please go to the file page and click "Nominate for deletion" in the tools menu on the left side. You can then enter a statement and click the "Proceed" button. Regards, De728631 (talk) 20:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Exclusão de fotos

Olá! Primeiramente, deixo claro que sou novato na Wikipedia, e peço desculpas se estiver postando minha dúvida no lugar errado. Tive fotos deletadas do artigo que editei recentemente, sob alegação de infringir direitos autorais, mesmo com autorização dos fotógrafos. No forum de discussões, fui instruído a solicitar aos autores das imagens que enviassem um e-mail para um administrador autorizando a postagem, mas não sei qual é esse e-mail para informá-los, muito menos o que deve conter a mensagem enviada. Alguém poderia me ajudar nessas questões? Desde já agradeço. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Umsamiug (talk • contribs) 15:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Umsamiug: , veja aqui: Commons:OTRS/pt. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:20, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

File:Toolbaricon bold Ӏаь.png

Resolved

File:Toolbaricon bold Ӏаь.png delete and upload this file please. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

that would not have been stories. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 15:58, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
but you need to delete the file and upload it again, that would be worn off download history. Otherwise, the panel icon is displayed initially loaded me more then a curve. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
There exists file:Toolbaricon bold Ӏаь.svg. No need for two identical files. Со мной можно и по-русски говорить. Taivo (talk) 21:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Taivo дело в том что файл который я выставил на удаление глючил в панели отображались старые версии из-за чего я решил загрузить её заново. А SVG не подходить для вставки. По этому я прошу загрузить файл из чевики без истории загрузок. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 21:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Это вообще не проблема. Старые версии тоже могут быть в Викискладе, чтобы показать историю файла. А если действительно нужно какие-нибудь версии удалить, тогда в начале загрузите с всей историей в Викисклад, а потом попросите некоторые версии удалить. Taivo (talk) 21:43, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Taivo. Сможете загрузить этот файл на склад? без старых версии? --Дагиров Умар (talk) 22:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Я не могу её загрузить пишут что файл с таким содержанием был удалён. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Но теперь файл всё-таки существует. Без старых версии. Taivo (talk) 22:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Спасибо. --Дагиров Умар (talk) 06:07, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

I like to delete all my uploaded stuff

Hi Administrators. Please delete all pictures and stuff I've uploaded. Thank you. --DerPetzi (talk) 09:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your request, you cannot "withdraw" your permission. By uploading here, you explicitly release the images under a free licence, which cannot be revoked. We will consider the requests on a case-by-case basis, but there are no promises. -mattbuck (Talk) 10:28, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Already speedy-closed some of them which are of good quality and/or in use. --Denniss (talk) 11:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
And I speedy deleted the ones which were copyvios. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:07, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Borrar PU de usuario

Hola, por favor pueden borrar esta pagina de usuario User:Alberto_almaraz_dj, el filtro me lo impide. la biografía no tiene relevancia enciclopédica y es mas promocional. mientras yo marcare las imagenes para borrado de sus contribuciones Saludos! --Elreysintrono (talk) 17:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Alan (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Delete my own uploaded files?

how can i delte my own picture file. i did a mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teirik (talk • contribs)

@Teirik: ✓ Done -mattbuck (Talk) 21:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Regarding it being difficult, there is no way for a normal user to delete files. This is intentional, as when you upload here you are releasing the file under a free licence which cannot be revoked. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Closure request

I realise DR is backlogged, but for the reason stated therein can we please have an expedited closure of this DR? Thanks, BethNaught (talk) 22:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Rodhullandemu (talk) 22:58, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

User:Yamla

I am requesting that Yamla be banned on Wikipedia because he is performing unnecessary edits and keeps reverting back to his edit (Edit wars) which is against the Policy. Yamla is also not listening to users and has had complaints on the Talk page. Please consider blocking. Thanks. 67.244.58.187 16:29, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, You are on the wrong page. This is Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

DR closed as kept, without file having a license

Further information: Commons:Village pump#Deleting thousands of Flickr images over faulty PD marking

Alan and Yann recently closed Commons:Deletion requests/File:Badgers and fox foraging.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Church in Marvão (16361810427).jpg withouth the files having a compatible license. How is this in-line with policies? How can we keep files without licenses? Josve05a (talk) 08:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I have gone ahead as a License Reviewer and marked these with {{PD-because}} and left comments on the source images on Flickr, linking them to the Commons copies. There is no doubt of the intent of the photographers (You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission.), nor of the stability of their accounts on Flickr. Both images are well established on Wikimedia projects. This is a "fine" argument of license interpretation, however we have the option assessing whether there is "reasonable doubt" and this swings both ways.
Administrators closing individual DRs take care to examine the image page referenced and put right any license problems or open issues. This appears to have been missed in these cases, which would be a serious concern if a pattern is established, but can be put aside as human error otherwise. --Fæ (talk) 09:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Addendum my viewpoint above was before double checking the file histories. This shows that a prior license review was done and reverted. I was mislead by the phrasing of the opening of this thread. Apologies for my confusion, though my license review can hopefully stick. --Fæ (talk) 11:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
As stated elsewhere (multiple times) which has casued 20 DRs to be closed as delete (see Category:Public Domain Mark 1.0-related deletion requests/deleted), we need explicit permission that they allow "You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission" and that it is non-revocable. Nowhere on Flickr does t say this. And it still doesn't change the fact that they were keept with no license. Josve05a (talk) 09:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
The license given on Flickr currently links to the text I have put in italics above, I call that explicit. It is perfectly reasonable to make a judgement call based on my many years of reviewing licenses on Commons and mark this with 'PD-because' (this is what is behind all licensing on Commons, we just automate some workflows based on the established experience). An individual human review of the photograph and circumstances around it to assess "doubt", seems a reasonable outcome here, and is the best we can probably expect for the remaining images with this issue. The fact I have contacted the photographers is belt & braces. By all means revert my license review if the reasons for doing so are supported by a credible community consensus. --Fæ (talk) 09:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
The number of times you repeat your same personal view doesn't add weight to it. On the other hand, you might want to consider that some 15-20 other people have already told to you that they disagree with your view. All your DRs where this matter was specifically discussed were closed as keep. A few DRs were closed on grounds not directly related to your nominating rationale. The reason why many other DRs were closed as delete is because they went unnoticed because people weren't continually watching over your shoulder to catch and comment on every DR you opened with the same rationale. They were closed almost automatically without scrutiny because they hadn't attracted any comment. Which was probably a mistake.
On the substance of the matter, no particular wording has been required by Commons to accept a release into the public domain found outside Commons, as long as the author's release is clear to a reasonable reader. You may want to start a general discussion with the objective of refining the policies to make mandatory that no public domain file should be uploaded from outside Commons unless it had been released though one particular method such as CC-0, or some other wording, for all future uploads. That might actually be a worthwhile discussion. But as things are right now, Commons accepts many wordings. Also, consider that the wording of the CC PD mark is practically identical word for word with the PD-author tag of Commons. There is only a small difference of style, insignificant in substance. Everybody here agrees that the CC PD mark was not meant by CC to be used for release. Yet, when the actual authors use it to mark their own works, we must reckon that its wording is as good and better than many other wordings of release that Commons has accepted. Have a look at the actual wordings at the sources of all the files that are tagged on Commons with PD-because or PD-author. And I'm not mentioning files released with tags such as WTFPL. if you think the wording of the CC PD mark is bad for a release, you'll be wordless to describe worse cases. Recommended best practice (CC-0) should not be confused with mandatory practice. If someone wants to hit on a nail, a recommended practice is to use a hammer (CC-0). Yet, if they hit the nail with a cast iron frying pan (CC PD mark), that may not be a use recommended by the maker of the pan, but it may do the job, although maybe not as nicely. It does not seem productive to start a war targeting files their authors have released with the CC PD mark on Flickr if the matter is not addressed more generally. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Public domain is a compatible status. The only reason why File:Badgers and fox foraging.jpg is missing a tag is because you removed it after your DR nomination had already been closed as keep. -- Asclepias (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  • (Edit conflict) Hmm; after my initial comment at one DR, I was away for some time. Glad to see it worked in that case as the Flickr user changed the license by some one's request. No doubt; it is the best solution.
I just re-read the discussion at VP. It doesn't arrive into a solution, so far. But it seems Nemo_bis's argument has some merit: "PDM in the case of a very new work means that the person considers the work out of copyright ab origine, or what we'd call PD-ineligible. A declaration on the threshold of originality, when made by the work author, does carry some weight." Since CC says "We anticipate that most of the time, the PDM in its current form will only be applied to very old works", the use of it for newly created own works is definitely a result of some misunderstanding. But as CC mentioned in another FAQ, an author can't make a contradicting claim later. So if we can ensure that the Flickr user is the original author, those works must be PD author, virtually. And we have no serious COM:PRP issues.
But this is not a permanent solution. We need to contact the authors for a better solution as happened in the above example. We may keep them for the time being instead of running some scattered DRs. But the files need to me marked with some maintenance categories for easier handling in future.
The Commons:Requests for comment/Flickr and PD images needs a better closing preferably by a crat. The current wording is not so good. Jee 09:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I just made a request at BN. I support Fæ's move as a temporary practical solution. Jee 09:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I asked the user not to revert any reviews by others. Jee 11:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
In my opinion the closure should be done by a bureaucrat, people chosen by the community for this task, and should be clearer how to act in the future "Officially" (as a policy). Administrators can not be lost regarding decision-making. Alan (talk) 12:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  • There's a danger this section will end up as a fork of the VP discussion, which is still open. I don't see how anyone, crat or admin, can close these DRs until there is a community consensus on what to do. Ultimately, imo, the images have to be deleted since the PD mark is simply incorrect: these images are under copyright. I suggest this section be closed and VP discussion continued. -- Colin (talk) 12:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Colin, it is not that simple. See, A said B is free from any copyrights. But, in fact, B is copyrighted by A. So if A is right, he should have released his rights. But where; we have no proof. Do we need a proof as A himself is telling so? Jee 13:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, per COM:PRP and since it is revocable. We do not have anything to fall back on if they change to, say, ARR. Josve05a (talk) 13:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Why would you think it is revocable? Natuur12 (talk) 13:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Natuur12 It is revocable in practice, because the Flickr user can just change the option with two mouse clicks. And revocable legally since the PD mark was bullshit so removing it is simply fixing a mistake. At some point, Flickr could conceivably write to everyone who applied a PD mark to an image taken by a digital camera/phone and point out their mistake. Then all those marks will vanish. Some might be CC0 but others might be a CC licence or even ARR. Jee, I don't want to repeat the VP discussion here. All images hosted on other sites contain "evidence" we can use to determine if an image is free for us to use. A statement that is legally false (the image is not in the public domain, it is copyright) has no value to us as evidence. I think the only thing we should be discussing is the process for handling existing images as a transition towards them being fixed or deleted, and how we try to prevent people making this mistake on upload. That discussion belongs at VP. Meanwhile, if anyone creates a DR, the only legal option is to delete. But clearly some restraint while discussion is ongoing, and not everyone has accepted, might be wise. -- Colin (talk) 13:58, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes but I find it hard to believe that it really works this way since it doesn't work this way in my home country. (Perhaps a bias) Natuur12 (talk) 14:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
What is different in your home country? Does Flickr make it harder to change licence options? Or are images PD automatically where you live? Or is the PD mark text different? I don't see what can be different. An incorrect statement of fact isn't the same as a statement of wishes, and the CC FAQ makes great effort to explain one simply cannot use the PD mark to release images into PD. Anyway, I don't see what merit there is in forking the conversation that belongs on the VP. Until this matter is agreed by the community, then closing a DR in either direction is likely to produce criticism. -- Colin (talk) 14:50, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
If you say feel free to use it you cannot revoke it and the Dutch supreme court often stated that such things need to be explained by the spirit of the text and not the letter. Such a statement can be legally binding because I declared that I have no interest in having a copyright for a certain work and after all the disclaimer states the following: You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. See Other Information below. Natuur12 (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Natuur12, I think it really unhelpful to continue this discussion on this page, unless someone is directly making the case for immediate admin action. If you have useful comments to make about the PD tag then do so at the village pump. -- Colin (talk) 12:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Images owned by me were removed

Dear Administrators,

The images I uploaded to an article were removed, stating "Media without a source." They are family photographs and I am the owner of the images. Is there a way for me to upload them to make that clear? I would like to reinstate the images in the article.

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfed5 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Advertising-only submitter

You might also want to take a look at the acitivities of User:Drsaava -- The Anome (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Done. Alan (talk) 23:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Endless removal of article deletion template

User:Leyogàn Paix, who under a large number of different account names has been creating a long series of promotional images to use on enwiki, is now removing the article deletion proposal tags on File:J-Pimp and Big Show.jpg. It's now getting very tedious to keep on reverting their changes, and I don't want to appear to be edit-warring with them.

Please see the relevant deletion request, Commons:Deletion requests/File:J-Pimp and Big Show.jpg, a previous similar deletion request Commons:Deletion requests/File:J-Pimp at Boca Bob Recording Studio.JPG, and in particular en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Prince-au-Léogâne/Archive for the long, long history of users with similar names. They do not seem amenable to discussion, ever, and seem to have settled on a strategy of endless repetition wearing down other editors and admins until they finally get their way. See en:J-Pimp (Record producer) (now deleted on enwiki) for the page this image was used in, and the history of en:1984 for their first attempt to put this image into enwiki, a route they seem to have taken with at least one other previous image, presumably to see whether people are still paying attention. -- The Anome (talk) 21:43, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Reverted visibility of DR and semiprotected for 1 week. --Achim (talk) 22:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Deleted and user + sock blocked. --Denniss (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 Info: Started a COM:RFCU. --Achim (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

Du an ba son Vinhomes Ba son Dự Án Ba Son user removes my speedytag--Motopark (talk) 09:50, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Deleted + protected + user blocked 3 days. Thanks. --Alan (talk) 10:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

[5] pages, out of scope--Motopark (talk) 18:08, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Nuked and locked. --Alan (talk) 18:27, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I've run across a very confusing and concerning pattern of possible copyright violations related to images of bridges by the Rosales + Partners architecture firm - and some possible sockpuppetry - and I would appreciate some help sorting it out at a central location before any specific actions are taken.

Some background - Rosales + Partners is an architecture firm in the United States which specializes in road and pedestrian bridge design. They have an active social media presence.

  • Fstop222 (talk · contribs) uploaded what appear to be 2 of their own photographs in November 2012, then 8 renderings by the firm in April 2013. They claim the renderings to be their own work but there is no evidence of this.
  • Wsvan (talk · contribs) uploaded dozens of photographs and renderings by the firm from May 2012 to January 2015, claiming most as their own work. Three of those files (File:Leonard P. Zakim Bunker Hill Bridge - Boston, MA.jpg, File:Liberty Bridge - Greenville, SC - 001.jpg, and File:Liberty Bridge - Greenville, SC - 002.jpg) have been released under OTRS tickets; however I don't have details as to whether that was by a representative of the firm. (It may be that Wsvan worked for the firm, but if they were doing the renderings then they might well not have the ability to release images which belong to the firm.) At least two files (File:Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge, Washington DC Area.jpg and File:Phyllis J. Tilley Memorial Bridge, Fort Worth, Texas.jpg) were credited to a professional photographer and have an OTRS ticket apparently from them. Many of the renderings are atop photographs by other photographers, which is its own can of worms.
  • Greg Folkins Photoography (talk · contribs) uploaded two files in September 2012, claimed as their own work. I find it suspicious that:
    • A professional photographer who intends to donate their images (perhaps as free advertising) would spell photography incorrectly
    • The images are of a bridge that Wsvan uploaded an OTRS image of several months later, and Wsvan added a category to one image
    • "Bridge Architect: Rosales + Partners" listed prominently in the image descriptions
    • One image contains "Hard Copy Copyright Provided. Must present Copyright and Usage Form to reproduce." in the metadata, which seems unlikely to be consistent with release under a CC license.
  • Moonwell (talk · contribs) uploaded one image (File:George Washington Carver Bridge.jpg) of a Rosales + Partners bridge in May 2013, then immediately created a user page with links to their various photography websites. Again:
    • "Bridge Architect: Rosales + Partners" listed prominently in the image description
    • Wsvan shows up within a day and crops the uploader's watermark from the photos
    • "Copyright: Jason Bradwell, Moonwell Photography | Photo licensed to Rosales + Partners 8/29/2011 | Royalty free license for general marketing use" is in the metadata. This is not something the photographer would have put in an image they were uploading to Commons - but would have been one they were sending to the firm.
  • Nionoodle (talk · contribs) uploaded one portrait of the firm's principal in June 2015, followed by 11 renderings of the firm's projects in October and November. The renderings are again claimed as their own work; the portrait (File:Miguel Rosales Portrait.jpg) is claimed to be owned by the firm but again the metadata reveals the real photographer who provided the image to the firm for marketing purposes.

Of the five editors, only Wsvan and Nionoodle have edited enwiki where the images are primarily used. Both appear to have added the images and somewhat promotional languages to the articles on the various bridges. This help desk message indicates that Nionoodle was no initially sure how to upload images.

Based on this, it appears that many of the dozens of images uploaded by these 5 editors may be copyright violations. Wsvan, Fstop222, and Nionoodle may all be promotional accounts. Additionally, based on what I've presented above, I believe that User:Moonwell and User:Greg Folkins Photoography may well be sockpuppets of User:Wsvan. That may not be a big deal as those three accounts appear to be inactive, but there's a troubling long-term trend of problematic behavior with users related to this firm. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I can confirm that Wsvan has sent in e-mails to OTRS using an official work e-mail, although I do echo Pi's sentiment above and would like others to look into this as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Need a Commons admin

We're having problems on en.wiki with the image File:Roch Marc Christian Kaboré au FMLF2012.JPG. David cropped it a few hours ago, and the thumbnail for the cropped image shows up with a weird aspect ratio that makes the poor guy's head look like a peanut. We don't understand the underlying problem, but I suspect reverting to the uncropped image might solve the problem as an emergency measure. Protected by Krinklebot because it's on our main page, so we need a Commons admin to do it. Thanks! --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:40, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Link to discussion on en.wiki: [6]. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:42, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
I deleted the file and undeleted it without the cropped version. (Reverting can cause cash issue's). Natuur12 (talk) 21:43, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
(wow, you guys are faster than en.wiki admins) thanks, but... now (at least in my browser), the image looks distorted the other way (before, it was too tall/skinny; now it looks too wide/fat). I know nearly zero about the technical aspects of this, so I don't know what help I can be, but if you aren't seeing the same problem, feel free to ask me for more info. We've temporarily taken the image of the main en.wiki page until this is resolved. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
It is back to normal "at my browser". There are a lot of problems with rendering images lately. Perhaps waiting some hours will resolve this. Natuur12 (talk) 21:51, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
This is all very strange. It looks fine to me in IE10 now, but (even after purging and bypassing) still looks stretched in Firefox 42.0. Thanks for your quick help, I'll see if our en:WP:VPT has any ideas. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Copyvios wrongly DR'd

Can an admin speedy delete these: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Kuba167? These are obvious copyvios, but I forgot to switch from DR to copyvio in VFC... INeverCry 07:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done --Krd 07:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Same picture uploaded again after DR

could someone check Commons:Deletion requests/File:PSN Party (Mexico).png and after then has uploaded File:PAS Party (Mexico).png, are the pictures same, Tineye-search says that they are same.--Motopark (talk) 01:18, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Same logo. Deleted image and redirection. Thanks. Alan (talk) 11:32, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

F7

File:Prema 1989.jpg is clearly not free. Thanks. 207.93.13.145 17:50, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Deleted by Thibaut120094. Alan (talk) 18:34, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Васил Мечкуевски.jpeg

Could someone with knowledge about Bulgarian copyright law please take a look? Natuur12 (talk) 02:24, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Ping @Spiritia: . Alan (talk) 08:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

File:SWCE - Costume Pageant Yoda Kid cropped.jpg & File:Costume Pageant- Luminara Unduli cropped.jpg

Can an Admin decide if these 2 Star Trek images are free to be on Commons and pass or fail them? Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:45, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Selfie Shoes-arent-real-but-big-huffposting.wow.gif--Motopark (talk) 05:05, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Why? Is the OTRS permission invalid? --Amitie 10g (talk) 05:21, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
See history [7] non OTRS-person added this--Motopark (talk) 05:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Hahaha, I just noticied the history of this user... In this case should be necesary that an actual OTRS member confirms the permission? --Amitie 10g (talk) 05:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done I blocked him indefinitely and will delete the file. Taivo (talk) 11:03, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Can't we get a filter that prevents new users from uploading this stuff? I'm getting the impression that this upload is becoming epidemic. De728631 (talk) 12:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Scanning filedesc during upload is not possible with abf. Filename and SHA1 yes, but they two are easy to fake. --Steinsplitter (talk) 12:50, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
I hate to do this, but for now I'll go ahead and create a filter to match such filenames --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Special:AbuseFilter/146 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
It seems that AF is really broken on checking file names. I checked four of the uploaded gifs, they all have the same file size. I suspect all of them are exactly the same with the same sha1sum; therefore the filter now tests on sha1 instead. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Zhuyifei1999. I changed the filter to block such uploads now. --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both. De728631 (talk) 23:02, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

File:Turkish Kurdistan.png

There is a problem about File:Turkish Kurdistan.png. Some Kurdish sympathizers making vandalism on the file. They try to show kurdish majority area more larger then its became. And they always change map like vandal. Actually there is no border and specified limited area. There is no study on this. Nobody know in which cities Kurdish are majority. There is limited informations. Most important source is CIA website and Turkish parliamentary elections.

This two source can show as the majority Kurdish popultion in Turkey. There is no formal studies on this topic. we have to use accurate source on the file and the best one is CIA unfortunately. Please, make something for information security. Antmqr(talk) 20:05, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

This move

[8], please restore--Motopark (talk) 05:31, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, The page is empty, so I deleted the redirect. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:59, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Update list of template Occupation

I've just gone through Template:Occupation/list in German lang mode and updated Template:Occupation/de. At some point I took a look into Template:Occupation/en (in German I found a master, but this was not on the list) and noticed slightly surprised, that some of the English entries did not appear on the list. Hence, please bring it up to date for the English words, so missing translations could be added. Side remark: There are a lot of superfluous trailing spaces ( mostly tab characters as far as I see), and some probably later additions seem to lack alternative writings, for example voice actor, but no voice actress; no water-colourist, no theatre critic. And why is there no empress, no other noble grades than duke/duchess, king/queen, no american football player (football player is in my eyes actually much too ambiguous – there may be no problem in English, but in German it has to be translated differently depending on the context, similar difficulties for other entries by the way)? --Speravir (Talk) 03:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

in this DR need some pictures to delete, missed Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Nub Cake--Motopark (talk) 12:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Alan (talk) 18:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Flag of Australian aboriginal located in Israel

One of the images of the Australian aboriginal flag was taken in Israel and kept, while other images of the same flag were deleted. The closures of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aboriginal Flag 01.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aboriginal Flag 02.jpg by respectively two experienced administrators, Natuur12 and Jim, contradict each other and leads to inconsistency. I don't want to nominate the image again for deletion unless an administrator won't do anything about it. If reverting the closure is impossible, what else shall we do besides re-nominating it? --George Ho (talk) 15:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

George Ho: I'd leave a message on each of their talk pages asking them to work together to achieve consensus. Of the two, I think Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aboriginal Flag 02.jpg has the more complete closing discussion, accompanied by links to other DNs. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:36, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Jim and I are already discussing this. No need to rush things. Still thinking about Jim's last argument. Natuur12 (talk) 18:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Personally, I would support Jim, i.e. keeping this. Yann (talk) 18:45, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Policy says that we consider US law (under which it's PD-simple; nobody disagrees) and the law of the "home" country of the work in question; there's no requirement to consider three countries' laws. It's not particularly different from keeping photos of a building designed by a Frenchman and built in the UK: the subject of the photo may have been "created" in a country where such a photo would be an infringement, but the photo was taken in a country where it's not an infringement, and it's not an infringement under US law. If we consider anything beyond US law and the law of one other country, how many countries are we going to consider? Where will we stop? Nyttend (talk) 00:24, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Geez, all of you, including Nyttend and Yann. I haven't seen you commented in either nomination page. Also, if there were Wiki-counterparts, like "deletion review" (not the same as "undeletion request"), I wouldn't have started the discussion in the first place. --George Ho (talk) 00:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
What Nyttend claims is a misinterpertation of com:L. We take the law of the source country and the laws of the United States into account and source country + US doesn't always equal two. If a building in the UK is build by a Frenchmen the source country for the building is the UK since that is where the building has been published. Therefor this isn't the best comparison. If there are 10 source countries we take the law of 10 or 11 countries into account. Natuur12 (talk) 09:33, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

This User

This user was temporarily blocked and has his/her block lifted but his/her behavior doesn't seem to have changed as the two recent M. Cyrus uploads don't appear to be own work...unless she is a close friend of Miley Cyrus which I seriously doubt given the uploader's history. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Nuked and blocked. Alan (talk) 23:39, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
AGF vs PRP... The solution is to send the permission to com:OTRS. Alan (talk) 23:53, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Protection question

Any image featured at en:Main Page needs to be protected. With some images, we just protect locally for the duration of its appearance. With others, the image is temporarily uploaded over there, protected for the duration of its appearance, and deleted after it's removed; a bot does all the work. Is there some standard as to which option is better? What do you more-experienced admins think is better? I don't see anything at en:Template:C-uploaded or en:WP:PURPLELOCK, and COM:P#Upload protection doesn't say anything either. In case you wondered, this came up because of File:Phillips Corners Battlefield.jpg (currently appearing as the illustration today's featured article at en:wp), which I've just protected here because I couldn't see any protection there or here. Nyttend (talk) 00:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

I think you're looking for Commons:Auto-protected files --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:21, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
@Nyttend: Files used at the enwp mainpage are autoprotected. I see no need to protec them by hand as well :-). Imho it would be cool to have the bot feature in the mediawiki software. --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:05, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I've never before seen Commons:Auto-protected files. Here I figured that someone had just forgotten to protect it. Thanks a lot! Nyttend (talk) 20:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

sourcepicture deleted

In picture File:Maty),pg.PNG in EXIF-info will be read that source are File:Captura111.PNG and it has been deleted--Motopark (talk) 14:50, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

In Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Amcboy17 (feb.2015), File:Maty),pg.PNG was subject to a successful DR; I suppose it was not deleted by mistake. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 15:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Picture File:Nuafragps.PNG seems to be duplicate--Motopark (talk) 18:15, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I nominated the photo for deletion. I did not delete it speedily, because I am not sure, why it was deleted in the past. Taivo (talk) 09:27, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Westyingsimwalk and File:LE2013-10-18PN.jpg

Westyingsimwalk (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads)  just came back from a one-month block (which was requested by me). Their very first action was to upload File:LE2013-10-18PN.jpg. A file by the same name was previously deleted as a result of Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Westyingsimwalk. Is this the same photo? If so, please delete it in accordance with Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion#G4 and block the user again. —LX (talk, contribs) 07:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done I deleted the photo. Taivo (talk) 09:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
And the block? We're talking about a user with over 60 uploads, all deleted as copyright violations, returning from a one-month block that expired less than a week ago, and their first action is to unilaterally recreate previously deleted content. They have two blocks for disruptive editing on their home wiki (Spanish Wikipedia) and several warnings on English Wikipedia. They've made no attempts whatsoever to communicate. This user is obviously not going to be a helpful contributor any time soon. —LX (talk, contribs) 17:21, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Blocked. --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Requested block

Can an administrator block User:Jirnbo Wales is a shíthead, per username violation? Also, delete the pictures uploaded. One is vulgar. Thank you. Nepaxt (talk) 19:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done by Jdforrester. --Túrelio (talk) 19:19, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit war at File:Forms of government.svg

…again. Involved are Knyaz-1988 (talk · contribs) and B.Lameira (talk · contribs). -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 20:21, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure why my username is there, as I haven't started an edit war. I have only reverted twice. I did nothing more, because of the three revert rule. And for the second one, I wasn't aware that he had already reverted. --B.Lameira (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I made that revert because these colours are used in several Wikipedia articles, and was done unilaterally. And if you read the summary, in the fist upload, he did not explain the motives for doing it. --B.Lameira (talk) 21:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
B.Lameira, for the record, I can spot a huge diference between your position and Knyaz-1988’s in this affair — that’s why I used the word "involved" and not, say, "guilty". -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 01:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Cross-wiki uploads

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T120867
Screenshot of the tool in VisualEditor, showing the "Upload and release rights" step

Why do we all of a sudden have loads of images where the upload description says "cross-wiki upload from xx.wiki"? Most of the ones I've seen have been uploads of fair-use images from other wikis, like this copyvio logo uploaded from cs.wiki: File:O-nas-mensi 01.png. Aren't there supposed to be checks on what can be uploaded to Commons from other wikis? These cross-wiki uploads lately have been a lot of fair-use material uploaded by new users. INeverCry 19:57, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

They are from the new tool on VisualEditor which allows uploads. However not much though went in to thinking of outcomes and consequences. (Nor was any analasis done, such as SWOT etc.) Small finee print about copyright below the upload field. And blatant disregard of new and inexperienced users understanding of copyright. And pushing to production without passing through beta nor getting clear opinions from comunities. Appearently "more media" is more important that free media. Think that sums it up prettty good, right MarkTraceur? Josve05a (talk) 23:18, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
No, it does not.
Cross-wiki uploads are possible via at least two tools, one in VE and one in WikiEditor. Both are turned on on all wikis. There is a library which allows other tools (gadgets, extensions, what have you) to use the same dialog, but to my knowledge, nobody has yet. We didn't do a formal analysis, but one of our goals is to make it simpler for users to find the upload process, which goal we accomplished with this new set of tools, and we knew we would on principle. The licensing and TOS agreement is not in "fine print" as you might understand it - it's smaller than the rest of the form text, but mostly because it's longer-form prose, and we don't want to give users a massive dialog. The user must agree to the license (CC BY-SA 4.0), that the work is their own, and that they agree to the TOS in order to continue. We knew this would be a problem, because it always is, and we did our best to combat it. The tool went through Beta Labs, but not BetaFeatures, because not every feature must go through a BetaFeature period necessarily. We have filed a bug to improve the only flaw that has been identified in this rampant, angry campaign against a mostly useful tool, and it is on the way.
Continuing to disparage the hard work of the only team at the WMF that actively works on Commons-specific software seems like it might not be the best strategy for getting your point across, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop being antagonistic and start being a little more constructive. --MarkTraceur (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
@MarkTraceur: I may have missed it, can you point me to this "rampant, angry campaign"? Diffs or... BethNaught (talk) 22:14, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
@BethNaught: most of it has been happening on IRC, but people are calming down a bit, and I think we've come to a good decision about how to solve this issue. --MarkTraceur (talk) 18:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
@MarkTraceur: While I appreciate that you are working for Commons, there are several serious issues here which the development team did not taken into account into implementing this. First the tool was enabled everywhere at once flooding Commons with copyright violations, when we are already struggling to keep this project clean. More testing was obviously needed before doing this. Second there is a mistaken assumption that more images is always good. I understand the idea to allow people to contribute easily, but you need to evaluate the quality of the contributions, not only the volume. In this case, the quality is very very low even when the files are not copyvios (description, sources, authors, categories, images size, etc.), and that is a problem in itself. Taking all that into account, you can understand the frustration. Regards, Yann (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
@Yann: I have understood the frustration from the beginning, in fact before the beginning of this conversation. We made a good faith effort to prevent uploads of copyrighted works against the applicable laws, and those efforts were thwarted by the ignorance and indifference of a subset of our users on other wikis. We believed, at the time, that our efforts would be sufficient, and we were wrong. We are doing what we can to mitigate the problem at hand, and we will be more forceful in preventing people from blindly uploading copyrighted materials in future upload tools. As for quality, we have absolutely no method of improving contribution quality from a software standpoint, but we would be happy to, and indeed I intend to make it a priority to, make it easier for admins on Commons to deal with problem uploads and low-quality uploads in the future. Thanks! --MarkTraceur (talk) 15:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
See [9]. Yann (talk) 10:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Created phab:T120931 --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:56, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
See also phab:T120867. Yann (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Cross-wiki uploads to Commons, 2015-10-21 to 2015-12-09

Hi. These come from the cross-wiki upload tool, which was enabled on 2015-10-21 and used to upload around 38 thousand files since. I'm one of the guys that made it. We tried to bring it up on Village Pump when it was about to be introduced, and when it was live on Beta Commons: Commons:Village pump/Archive/2015/10#Cross-wiki uploads to Commons from the visual editor (that thread didn't receive as many replies as I have hoped). It's now available in VisualEditor (via Insert → Media → Upload) and wikitext editor (in the default "enhanced" toolbar only, Image icon → Upload). It's true that there wasn't any formal analysis before we created it (at least none I'm aware of), we're a small team and we don't really have the resources for that.

I looked at the upload and deletion logs, made some graphs and notes, and put them on T120867. The short version is that the quality of these uploads does seem to be pretty poor :/ (around 20% get deleted), but there are not that many of them (they are about 6% of all uploads; UploadWizard alone is responsible for 8x as many). I think this is pretty bad, but nowhere near bad enough to kill the tool outright (as some people suggested on IRC).

We're thinking about how to reduce the number of bad uploads without affecting good uploads too much, and without slapping ugly bold red messages all over it :) Please watch T120867 for updates and suggest ideas. Matma Rex (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Only about 6.5% of images uploaded by cross-wiki didn't have licensing issues when I did spot checks. The 'official numbers' doesn't take in to account that we have yet to process them. Set a time span, like a specific hour and then [let us] review those files you'll see the 'actual' rate. Josve05a (talk) 20:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  • As of 22:44 UTC, there have in the past hour been 29 cross-wiki uploads, 7 of which I have nominated for deletion, although there are several more that make me feel uncomfortable and I encourage others to check them. That is, at least 25% of the images are obviously bad, and others have issues such as FoP, lack of "own work" verification for old images, etc. I'm sure I'm not the only person to believe that an upload process without scary red boxes is simply not viable. BethNaught (talk) 22:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

All files from December 8 have been reviewed to get an estimate of the issue [10]. More than 52% have already been deleted for copyvios (582 on 1106). A large part of the remaining are nominated for deletion for copyright or scope issue, or tagged with "no permission", "no source", etc. It's quite clear that this tool produces more junk than good. It needs to be fixed, and fast. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Almost all of these are from brand-new contributors, and new users have far more problems with copyright than established users. How do brand-new contributors using cross-wiki uploads compare to brand-new contributors using the UploadWizard? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

We're doing things, fast; I posted the plan at phab:T120867#1868368. I'm not going to copy-paste it here because that'd be silly. If you have any comments, feel free to reply here (I'm following this thread). (But do register on Phabricator, it's fun and it's connected to Wikimedia SUL!) Matma Rex (talk) 02:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Lots of bar charts, with nothing but colour to distinguish meaning, and no alternative presentation. Does no-one care about web accessibility any more? Andy Mabbett (talk) 13:16, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: I provided the CSV data used to generate each graph, please feel free to create alternatives. LibreOffice Calc, which I used to make these, doesn't have an option of "hatch fill" for the bars or anything like that I could find. The colors in the graphs differ by luminosity and I hope they are distinguishable even to a completely colorblind person, and the legend is consistently arranged to match the order of colors in the bars. I don't really know how to format a chart to be used by sight-impaired users, so I stuck with just providing the raw data and some commentary.
I wish you'd comment on the merit rather than the presentation, though. Matma Rex (talk) 19:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

How does it work with categories? The few I looked at seem to not have any categories. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

There's a category select field very similar to that in UploadWizard. Matma Rex (talk) 20:54, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Interface options for A/B test

Per the plan, we'll be running an A/B test this week to compare the ratio of good to bad uploads (and the number of good uploads) for four different interface options. In case the results are inconclusive (too few uploads to tell which performs the best), we'll keep the test enabled over Christmas. Here are the almost-final designs we'll be testing:

  • The form we have right now, with a single checkbox.
    The form we have right now, with a single checkbox.
  • Four checkboxes, each with a label explaining one facet of the requirements (own work; no pictures of copyrighted work; educational/useful; irrevocably released as CC BY-SA).
    Four checkboxes, each with a label explaining one facet of the requirements (own work; no pictures of copyrighted work; educational/useful; irrevocably released as CC BY-SA).
  • Some Yes/No questions structured so that 'Yes' is not always the right answer to continue uploading.
    Some Yes/No questions structured so that 'Yes' is not always the right answer to continue uploading.
  • Longer introduction before a single checkbox (as in option 1), with examples of good and unacceptable content.
    Longer introduction before a single checkbox (as in option 1), with examples of good and unacceptable content.

I really could use some words of approval. :) Matma Rex (talk) 20:54, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

These look great! I'm excited about new UI and to see the results. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 23:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I would pick number 3. Natuur12 (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
I like option 3 as well, although I'd strongly encourage you to add a sentence pointing to Commons Upload Wizard at the bottom, similar to the Wizard blurbs on the others. —RP88 (talk) 23:51, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
It has one, but it only appears in response to a "wrong" answer by the user. I don't have a screenshot handy, here's one from an earlier version: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F3070606 (the text of UploadWizard blurb is the same). Matma Rex (talk) 00:38, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
@Matma Rex: Looks great! Thanks! :-) (would be for upload wizard helpful as well) --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I have now documented this at mw:Multimedia/December 2015 cross-wiki upload A/B test, that's also where we'll post the results as soon as we have them. Matma Rex (talk) 23:42, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Better, not worse?

If you're interested in this subject, I encourage you to start reading at phab:T120867#1876785 for updated results. The things that are interesting or strange:

  • The cross-wiki upload tool has approximately doubled the number of images uploaded to Commons by first-time contributors (first time uploading to Commons). This is a drop in the bucket compared to Commons' normal flow of images, of course, but it's still helpful if the images are acceptable (the majority seem to be) and actually used (nearly all of them were, at least briefly).
  • For people making their first-ever upload, the overall deletion rate is lower for editors using the cross-wiki tool than for contributors using the UploadWizard.
  • For experienced contributors (people who have already made 10+ contributions directly to Commons), the deletion rate is higher for editors using the cross-wiki tool than for contributors using the UploadWizard.

Because these are odd results – wouldn't you expect first-time uploads to make more copyvio and other mistakes than experienced contributors? – Matma Rex has asked if anybody is willing to re-check the first-time uploads on the list: User:Matma Rex/UploadWizard uploads by new users, 2015-12-08. There are only 263 images on that list, and many of them have been deleted, so it shouldn't take that long to re-verify the ones that still exist. Feel free to strikethrough or mark any that you've done; it shouldn't be necessary for multiple people to check each image. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:55, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

File:1964-uk-kongreseto.jpg

I don't know where to post the following note, so I just dump it here, hoping it will be considered or someone wil tell me where's the right place to put requests like this:

In February 2012 the file 1964-uk-kongreseto.jpg was deleted, which hadn't a licence suitable for Wikimedia Commons. It was used primarily in the Esperanto-branch of Wikipedia. As I'm an administrator in the Esperanto Wikipedia, only now got aware about the missing historical picture in the Esperanto-article and in this branch files labelled as "fair use" are accepted in some cases, could a Commons administrator please send me the file with it's upload history, maybe by email through the link at my esperanto user page, so that I could check if it applies for local reupload in the Esperanto-branch of Wikipedia labelled as "fair use"? --ThomasPusch (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Is this the file in question?Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:58, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
It is. --Achim (talk) 20:47, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
ThomasPusch, se spureblas la fotinto, verŝajne ne malfacilus atingi liberigon de tiu foto laŭ licenco akceptebla de Commons. Tio estus multe pli utila ol nura poruza gastigo en w:eo. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 01:15, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for showing the file in question. I could have found it myself using Google, but I didn't think it would be reachable that easily. Nevertheless, it would be neccesary to see the upload history, to see where the file came from. The site de.academic.ru just copied an earlier version of a german language wikipedia article, at that time using the photo, but it didn't copy any upload log. Could some administrator reach that information? By the way, maybe Tuválkin is right that if the original photographer could be contacted, maybe even a Commons licence could be reached. But without the original upload history, no one can start any search. --ThomasPusch (talk) 14:56, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Question

Through the last few years I have created over 800 Wikivoyage banners. These banners are mostly used on the Hebrew Wikioyage, although many of them are also used in other Wikivoyage editions. In many instances I will also look for new Wikivoyage banners created by other users from other Wikivoyage editions (which were also uploaded to wikicommons) in hopes that I will find new (to me) beautiful banners which I would end up using in the Hebrew Wikivoyage articles as well.

Is there any tool I could use that would help me easily locate new files added to one of the sub-categories of the parent category Category:Wikivoyage banners ? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Now you can just watch categories with the option of seeing new files on your watchlist.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Russavia sockpuppet ?

I just received this message on my talk page. Somebody calling himself "BMIA330" asks me to contact him at User_talk:Russavia, which I understand to be the talk page of blocked User:Russavia.

Have I misunderstood something here? --Uli Elch (talk) 11:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

This account is already blocked by the WMF, so most probably yes. Yann (talk) 17:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Restore request

When someone has time, can you restore User:INeverCry/Stuff? I nominated it for speedy in a huff, but I need it. INeverCry 20:52, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 21:00, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Native Artist

would like to know if u can add another Native Artist to your List he is excellent in paintings and sculptures Jeffrey Cree aka Handsomedog Yakima Nation Painter and Sculptor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siralou (talk • contribs) 14:16, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Commons does not have any lists. You should ask it in en.wiki. Maybe he is notable, that case an article can be created about him. You mean, of course, Jeffrey James Cree, who got Australian Fire Service Medal in 2011. Taivo (talk) 15:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Flag of Guelph.svg universal replace request

Can someone please remove File:Flag of Guelph.svg from User:CommonsDelinker/commands. The file (File:Flag of the citizens of Guelph.svg) was renamed because it was inaccurate. An accurate image is now at File:Flag of Guelph.svg and is what should be displayed in all articles. --Svgalbertian (talk) 03:33, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Too late, the bot has already done the replacement. --Svgalbertian (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Arianator_&_Rusher

This isn't probably the right page for such requests, but... I don't know where asking for help. I'm checking this user's uploads. Three photos out of the three ones I checked were evident copyright violations. Now I must go; can please any of you continue?--Formica rufa 11:39, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

I just marked all the uploads of this user as copyvios. // Martin K. (talk) 11:50, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done Deleted. Yann (talk) 13:21, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
@Yann: He/she came back. May I suggest a temporary block, in order to make him understand he just can't upload here such files?--Formica rufa 16:46, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done Yann (talk) 17:00, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

please restore

Deletion request removed from page User talk:Lucifer666art, please restore--Motopark (talk) 13:58, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

sorry I read wrong to history, section can be close--Motopark (talk) 14:02, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Concorso fotografico Wikipedia love monuments

Mi scuso se ho sbagliato sezione ma non so dove chiedere aiuto in quanto volendo partecipare al concorso fotografico, non riesco a caricare le altre foto (ne ho caricate solo 2) e successivamente mi compare una finestra dove sembrerebbe ci siano dei problemi in quanto il browser non trova la pagina di caricamento delle foto. Qualcuno mi può aiutare? Grazie. Maurizio Marchesin

timestamp for autoarchive. — regards, Revi 13:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Metadata contains personal information, need to have it removed

Comparison of neutral buoyancy pools.svg
North American grapple fixture drawing.svg
--Craigboy (talk) 20:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

French copyvio

Can a French speaking administrator please explain here that the file they have uploaded is not free and it needs a suitable licence for Commons? I am pretty sure that the uploader is someone who holds the archive of the Hungarian-born French artist Simon Hantai, and uploaded the file in good faith - not being aware of having violated the author's copyright - but someone who can speak their language should explain them how to licence correctly via OTRS the author's paintings - provided they are the legitimate holders of his rights. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:28, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 11:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

TheChallis

Please delete the uploads of TheChallis (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads) . Timeshift9 made a bit of a mess of things by blanking the file description pages and uploading white images over the original uploads instead of just tagging them as {{copyvio}}s, but you should be able to find everything in the page histories and upload logs. If any checkusers are listening in, it might also be good to check if User:TheChallis is a sockpuppet of indefinitely blocked copyright violator User:Alquevron, which seems plausible given the single-minded interest in Australian fringe politics. —LX (talk, contribs) 10:53, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Doing Yann (talk) 11:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Undo last version

I ask you to undo the last trolling version of File:Lapin.svg which was uploaded by a blocked editor from huwiki in order to annoy Hungarian admin Pallerti who uses this image in his signature. Thank you. --Rlevente (talk) 11:09, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Not an admin, nor have I looked in to anything, but there is a reason we have a policy/guideline on most wikis not to use images in signatures...Josve05a (talk) 12:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I propose that we block this editor indef. His uploads have licensing issue's, he was warned by Yann and yet he/she uploaded even more images with bogus licenses like File:Rákosi M.jpg. Now we can add harassment to his "dossier". Enough is enough. Natuur12 (talk) 15:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Blocked indef. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:00, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. --Rlevente (talk) 21:08, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Mistake on the mainpage

This file evidently shows moonrise, not sunrise. I have checked it in an electronic planetarium for given coordinates and time (the surrounding stars could also be identified), so the identification of the brightest object above the horizon as the Moon is definitely true. Correct the description and filename, please. Stas (talk) 19:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I think you'd have to get NASA to fix it first, see https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/good-morning-from-the-international-space-station where the image is identified "NASA astronaut Scott Kelly (@StationCDRKelly), currently on a year-long mission on the International Space Station, took this photograph of a sunrise and posted it to social media on Aug. 10, 2015. Kelly wrote, "#GoodMorning to those in the western #USA. Looks like there's a lot going on down there. #YearInSpace". The space station and its crew orbit Earth from an altitude of 220 miles, traveling at a speed of approximately 17,500 miles per hour. Because the station completes each trip around the globe in about 92 minutes, the crew experiences 16 sunrises and sunsets each day." Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I wrote to NASA, but it is completely evident that it is a mistake. If it were Sun, there would be shining strip of atmosphere and uncomparably dimmer city lights. Look at any other photos in this category. If you take time and coordinates from the source and put them in any program-planetarium, you would see the Moon in the very same region of sky, with reddish Mu and Eta Gem to the lower left, and bluish Zeta Tau to the top. Stas (talk) 20:02, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
That's great, but the image is from NASA, and the description follows that of the source. When and if you convince NASA that they don't know up from down or left from right, and they change the source page, I'm sure this request could be reconsidered. Try contacting the people on the bottom of the source page: NASA Responsible Official: William Stefanov | Curator: jsc-earthweb@mail.nasa.gov . Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
If you think that the project must reproduce evident mistakes, maybe, you at least would not put them on the mainpage? Stas (talk) 20:14, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
I corrected that in the description. Yes, it is quite evident that it is a moonrise. No need to ask the NASA, but informing them might be useful. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Stas (talk) 21:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

Domaine de la Colombe uploader has been deleted twice speedy deletion tag--Motopark (talk) 03:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done. — regards, Revi 04:37, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Fake userpage

User:Etejoculy not admin rights and other rights--Motopark (talk) 04:46, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I think asking the user first doesn't hurt. — regards, Revi 04:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
@-revi: (and any other admin) This is a sockpuppet of Fritella. Here's their signature selfie shoes edit: Commons:Valued image candidates/File:Big-real-time-huffington Post-Selfie Shoes.wow.gif. I'll report the sock to Meta for locking. If any admin sees anything that says "selfie shoes", it's Fritella. INeverCry 07:26, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Indef'ed. — regards, Revi 07:29, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response. I didn't realize this LTA sockmaster was still at it. I've reported the sock for locking. INeverCry 07:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

File:Pi 3 Branques, vila de Berga.jpg

If you think this image is the flickr account owner's own work, please feel free to pass it. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 22:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

flickr says it's from instagram, but the link to instagram seems dead. I also feel suspicious but don't have a decisive clue. — regards, Revi 04:39, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Please delete

File:Big-real-time-huffington Post-Selfie Shoes.wow.gif deleted many times before--Motopark (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done. — regards, Revi 04:41, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Sha1 blacklisted. 21 attempts with old file disallowed before this upload ;) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
That's really cool! Taivo (talk) 09:22, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Renaming protected file

This is the File:Naval Ensign of Finland.svg, official name of which in Finnish is Kielekkeinen valtiolippu, in English - Tongue State Flag. Now the Navy of Finland is not even primary user of this flag. This flag is reserved for Finnish Military in general. All military units not having their own unique flag bear it. Air Force HQ for example. If the Tongue State Flag is too much for the English ears, the file could be renamed the Military Flag of Finland. The question is: how to do it, since I can not rename protected files. Sincerely, --Kwasura (talk) 05:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Cableways and Andy Dingley

In the last day, Andy Dingley removed twice the set of Funicular categories from the parent categories of Category:Cableways. Both sets of reverts were made though Andy Dingley didn't for my arguments. (discussion)

His arguments are not really supporting his opinion, in my view. He argued, funiculars are a form of railway (no doubts about it] and "are not supported by the cable". I argued, funiculars are also a form of cableway, and are also supported by the cable, and are really count among cableways in many countries and languages. For aerial cableways, we have categories of Category:Aerial lifts. No need to double them with Category:Cableways in identic meaning. If somebody means that "cableways" is not the best term for both main types of cableways together, a better category name for this meaning (if English language have any more unambiguous word for this concept) can be looked, but the common category for both groups of cableways should be reflected in the categorization structure. English Wikipedia redirects the word Cableway to Cable car article which deals both aerial lifts as well as rail systems of cableways. However, the term "cable car" is even more ambiguous and confusing because it is understood primarily as en:Cable car (railway) in some countries and regions.

I'm not sure Andy Dingley will consider this discussion and I'm also not very familiar with local variety of English terms on this field and their meanings. I tried (successfully?) to clean up the most chaos in some of frequently misunderstood categories ("cable cars" category), but Andy Dingleys style of communication seems to be out of my ability. Can somebody help to solve the problem? --ŠJů (talk) 00:23, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

By "removed", you mean "twice reverted your threefold change" to add this incorrect categorization.
So far I'm the only one even thinking of showing any RS: Peele (1941) "Cableways" in Mining Engineer's Handbook, II (3rd ed.), p. 26−44 "General description: (b) carriage running on cable" which (of course) supports the standard definition, that in a cableway, unlike a railway, the load is carried on a cable, not merely propelled by a cable.
This is a long-running problem with ŠJů, across a variety of topics. One of the most memorable was the mess over "driving cabs of sailing yachts" et al. Commons:Categories for discussion/2014/01/Category:Driving cabs of watercraft where a great many incorrect categories were invented on the basis that if a compound noun in German links two terms, then that is a WP:RS definition of the term. This is quite wrong, but much of ŠJů's editing is based on no more than that. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Yes, before your disrupting edits, i made extensive cleaning in some of cableway categories and revision of consistency of the categorization structure. Before it, some of funicular categories were not categorized under rail transport, some of them were not categorized under cableways, although the item falls under both. As I said, not only most of European languages but also the article of English Wikipedia have a common concept for both types of cable transport ways. I need not to "invent" the connection.
Cable railways including funiculars have also cars running on cable. If I'm not mistaken, "running on cable" needs not to mean "hanging on cable", and cable railways are significantly inclined, ie. the car hangs on the propelling cable even though it stands on rail. But not all cableways are aerial, that's well-known. However, I believe, a 4-words definition from 1941 mining engineer's handbook is not really meant as the crucial argument for today's meaning of terms about public cableways? :-) A seat of a chairlift is a "carriage", in your view? --ŠJů (talk) 01:08, 26 December 2015 (UTC), corrected --ŠJů (talk) 01:20, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Andy, if you're active again, would you be so kind as to change the misleading "not active" message on your user/talk page? I see plenty of recent edits to suggest you're active again. Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:47, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

This sort of crap is precisely why I am no longer active here. You don't want my image uploads, but I'm damned if I'm going to sit quietly while Sju makes yet another mess like this. Andy Dingley (talk) 01:55, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Admin needed

Can an admin block User:Reagan Cox has got to be the best girl and trumpet player I have ever seen. LTA sock attacking Herby and me. INeverCry 03:06, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done, I think: I deleted few pages, Techman224 blocked the users (and Ruy blocked the IPs globally). Anything else? Érico (msg) 04:01, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
I've also hidden some of the edit summaries and logs. Techman224Talk 04:11, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Can someone delete {redacted}? INeverCry 04:25, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
And Template:Tekkenismyworld. INeverCry 04:29, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
And {redacted}. INeverCry 04:30, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Correcting protected file

Greetings! File:Flag of Ukraine.svg has not quite correct colours. You can see it if open the file in editor and check numbers. Correct numbers are in the infobox under the Colours section. Question is: how to fix it since I can not overwrite the protected file? Sincerely, --Kwasura (talk) 04:48, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Have the colours been published in an official ruling? Usually for renditions of coats of arms and flags the true tone of a basic colour is rather unimportant. De728631 (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism

Please, vandalism from Yuorfj. --Civa61 (talk) 13:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Reverted, DR closed and user warned. Alan (talk) 14:33, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Weird actions of user:Kwasura

Uploads [11] almost idenical copies of files previously uploaded by other users (the same size, but virtually enhanced resolution), then nominates [12] the old ones for deletion. The user apparently wishes to became the only author of all the pictures of Ukraine emblems, otherwise he could upload his versions over the existing ones. Please check and revert the inappropriate edits. --85.140.5.35 08:41, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Dear Anonymous, could you, please, introduce yourself? If you don't understand something that I am doing you can ask me on my talk page. --Kwasura (talk) 08:57, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Category assistance

It appears that Category:Melissa has been modified in unhelpful ways by a new user. Could someone take a look at this and see how best to straighten it out? Thanks! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:40, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Ellin Beltz, I assume you mean this edit, the only one in the last nine months, and the first by a new user since 2013? It's not mere vandalism or confusion by a single new user — this category is now holding a bunch of images depicting women named Melissa, both the Lebanese singer prompting the edit, and personal photos of random people. Your input at Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/12/Category:Melissa would be welcome. Nyttend (talk) 05:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Metadata contains personal information, need to have it removed

Comparison of neutral buoyancy pools.svg
North American grapple fixture drawing.svg
--Craigboy (talk) 12:02, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Normally this is a case for COM:OS so I've passed it on there.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
✓ Done (os can suppress it when received the mail). --Steinsplitter (talk) 12:19, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thank you.--Craigboy (talk) 08:24, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Public Domain Mark, again

Hi all, again. Remmeber the last post about the Public Domain Mark? If you do, great, otherwise it is in the archives.

So far all images which had been tagged as Flickr-public domain mark and DR'ed had been deleted (see Category:Public Domain Mark 1.0-related deletion requests/deleted), except for a few which had been relicensed on FLickr to another (real) license, or later been renominated and deleted by another admin.

However, today the admin Ezarate (pinged) has decided to keep three DRs (1, 2, 3 based on the arguments of Blythwood, citing one DR which was kept (due to chnage of license on Flickr). The admin appearentlly (see User talk:Josve05a#RE:) kept the files since "we can assume...", arguments over other admins has deleted images for (see the DRs in the delete-category above).

We need to be consistent when it comes to something like this, and not be as "the closing admin decides everything". Either we undelete, or delete.

Pinging admins which has kept/deleted PDM-files, or has commented about this issue before, for input: @Ellin Beltz, Revent, Yann, Natuur12, and Colin: @Jameslwoodward, Alan, and Zhuyifei1999: (Sorry if I forgot someone) Josve05a (talk) 20:50, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Since my last pingin of users didn't work apperently, let's try again. @Ezarate and Blythwood: @Jameslwoodward, Alan, and Zhuyifei1999: @Ellin Beltz, Revent, Yann, Natuur12, and Colin: Josve05a (talk) 20:54, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
Apparently this ping didn't work either --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 11:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
You list images for deletion. They're kept. Three hours later you list for deletion again providing no new reasons. Kept again. Now you're rehashing this a third time? Blythwood (talk) 23:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
In the meantime I have seen at least one case where everything looked like the Flickr uploader used PDM likely by mistake instead of choosing CC0, but at asking them it turned out that they never intended to publish under a free license at all. I strong support to delete all PDM images unless we can prove that something like PD-art|PD-old really applies. --Krd 07:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
WMF Legal and Carl Lindberg said that PDM is probably OK if it is specified by the picture owner. I'd follow Carl about this. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:30, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. You don't know if the person is actually the owner or not. Besides, using a revokable license-like tag is ok, seriously? What if someone change a PDM image on flickr to ARR, and send a DMCA notice to WMF? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:23, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
User:Yann, where did WMF Legal state that Flickr images with this copyright tag are fine? The only message I have seen from WMF Legal was one on COM:VP some time ago where WMF Legal gave the usual nonsense statement that we only can host Flickr images if they are freely licensed or in the public domain, but without any guidance on how to determine if Flickr images with this copyright tag are freely licensed or in the public domain. However, I haven't followed all discussions about the copyright tag, so I don't know if I might have missed something. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:12, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

 Comment Link to the discussion where no formal conclusion: Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2015/12#Deleting_thousands_of_Flickr_images_over_faulty_PD_marking. I wonder why carts made no efforts there; but one crat commented here, now. Anyway administration boards are not the place to make policies or guidelines. Jee 13:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

 Comment Perhaps we need to figure out a simple way to let people vote on the issue since we have received semi-clear guidance from WMF Legal? I just don't see a way to settle that here or at the VP. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Ellin, I don't see "semi-clear guidance from WMF legal". In fact, the response from Jrogers (WMF) made me worry if he actually understood the question. He seemed to be answering the question "Can we trust amateurs to tag PD images". He's talking about images that "are simply PD for one reason or another such as age" and confirms "in general, we're okay with hosting photos that people believe to be in the public domain and have marked as such as long as it's not obviously wrong for an individual photo". The problem is that these modern photos, taken recently by living people, are not in the public domain. They are automatically very much under copyright. So their "mark" is "obviously wrong". Perhaps there's another clarification elsewhere that is more reassuring. But right now I don't think we've got the guidance we were looking for. What we need is WMF legal assuring us that when someone clearly incorrectly uses the PD mark on their own All-Rights-Reserved-Copyright-2015-Joe-Blogs photo that it is safe for us to pretend they meant to click on the CC0 option instead. That's a whole other answer. And I very much doubt WMF legal would suggest we go around pretending things that aren't the case, when it is quite trivial to ask the Flickr user to clarify their licence choice. -- Colin (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

PD-USGov license tags - change "in the public domain" to "in the public domain in the United States"

The license tag {{PD-USGov}} states that the covered work is "in the public domain in the United States." The reference to the US seems like a useful clarification because, from what one understands, US government works are definitely public domain in the US but may be copyrighted in countries outside the US. There are a substantial number of PD-USGov license tags for which it would seem useful to add the same clarification. Due to the number of affected license tags, they have been listed here as opposed to edit requests for individual tags.

For the following license tags, the string
in the '''[[w:public domain|public domain]]'''
should be changed to
in the '''[[w:public domain|public domain]]''' in the United States
instead:

For the following license tags, the string
in the '''[[public domain]]'''
should be changed to
in the '''[[public domain]]''' in the United States
instead:

For the following license tags, the string
in the '''[[w:public domain|public domain]].'''
should be changed to
in the '''[[w:public domain|public domain]]''' in the United States.
instead:

--Gazebo (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Are you sure about that? Did the US government claim a copyright on its work anywhere or anytime outside of the US? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:01, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I do not know of any cases where copyright has been asserted in a work of the US government outside the US; however, there are indicators that works of the US government are not definitively in the public domain worldwide. Creative Commons had a blog post about US government agencies using a CC0 dedication for certain data for a worldwide public domain dedication. Also, the CENDI FAQ on US government copyright issues states that US government works can be copyrighted outside the US, and a US House Judiciary Committee report on the proposed Copyright Act of 1976 (on page 59) stated that "The prohibition on copyright protection for United States Government works is not intended to have any effect on protection of these works abroad." In this discussion issue on the {{PD-USGov}} template, there was an indication that copyright on US government works outside the US could likely vary from country to country. For now, it would seem useful to clarify that works of the US government are in the public domain in the US, but to not give a possibly incorrect impression that such works are generally also public domain outside the US. --Gazebo (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
(One related discussion: Commons:Village_pump#US_Govt_works_being_categorised_as_CC-PD-Mark) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 10:57, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

File:Louis de Puyt (1970).jpg & File:Meeuwis Majoor (1970).jpg

Can an Admin mark these 2 free images once they know the right license for them? Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:04, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

They recently changed their license to cc-by-4.0. Natuur12 (talk) 20:05, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

2016 undeletions

Category:Undelete in 2016

What time are we supposed to start? Is this midnight UTC?--Ymblanter (talk) 21:28, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
As you like, but be sure to change the category to Category:Undeleted in 2016. Regards, Yann (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, will change it.--Ymblanter (talk) 23:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
Undeletions should probably start at midnight in the source country, but does it matter if one file is undeleted one or two hours too early? --Stefan2 (talk) 00:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Sure, but some users may have strong feelings about it. Anyway, for today I have done my share; will continue tomorrow if there is still smth left.--Ymblanter (talk) 00:52, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:2015 12 28 PIERRE JPEG.jpg

Can anyone please close this deletion request? There's nothing to discuss anymore, the person has been identified and the file is in use now. Titlutin and I are both not familiar with the process of closing this request. Thanks. I've renamed the file to File:Pierre-Marie Rudelle, 2009.jpg now, the rename is pending globally. --Bjarlin (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 18:56, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

One more question: Is it better to wait a few days before nominating deletion for such a new uploaded file? It hasn't been in use on 28/29 December, but in the meantime there are many pages using the file here and globally. But it seemed to be a personal photo on 28/29 December. Is this often the case? --Bjarlin (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Good question: I think you’re right, of course. Some editors do monitor recent uploads and immediately mark copyvios and duplicates for speedy deletion, and also file in regular DRs for scope reasons. The week long waiting time should be enough for those newly uploaded images to be used in the projects their uploaders meant them to be, thus voiding the scope argument of the DR, which should be then closed.
This should work well, but some admins speedy closing scope DRs and even marking for speedy deletion files based on scope issues do pervert the way it should work, though.
-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 16:53, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Main page media license review needed

Can an admin do a license review of File:Bharatanatyam - Learn Slokas from Abhinayadarpanam (Video Lesson for Beginners).webm, which is currently featured on the main page? I'd pass it, but the cascading full protection stops me. INeverCry 20:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:29, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Ausweisung Rimli 19360206.jpg

Moved to Commons:Undeletion requests/Current_requests#File:Ausweisung_Rimli_19360206.jpg --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:19, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

User:Spartakmoskva uploaded logos of professional football teams ([13]), like that, as his own work. What should be done in this case? I should put {{Speedydeletion}} in everything? --IM-yb (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Deleted and warned the user. All of these logos could be uploaded locally as fair use. Techman224Talk 04:21, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

User:Wjplyw

This user plagiarized Fry1989's user page and its subpages, taking credits for images (s)he did not upload or contribute (especially as seen in User:Wjplyw/Gallery). --Wcam (talk) 13:23, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Warned, pages deleted. Yann (talk) 14:36, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

User has since recreated all the pages deleted regardless of warnings. Please block. --Wcam (talk) 12:47, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

✓ Blocked Pages deleted. Yann (talk) 13:10, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
@Wcam: , thank you very much for reporting this while I was away. Fry1989 eh? 04:14, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

History clean/David Beals

Can an admin do a history clean on File:Mexico City New Years 2013! (8333128248).jpg to get rid of all the David Beals ceiling fans? INeverCry 06:05, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm on it. Techman224Talk 06:51, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I think I got it, but I think the cache needs to catch up, so the ceiling fan might be there for some time. Techman224Talk 07:07, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
The ceiling fan is still there for me, even after purging and cache clearing.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
It's gone for me. It might take a while for all the caches to catch up. Techman224Talk 04:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Now it is gone for me as well.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Cleanup overwritten file

Can someone please remove the overwritten images from this file? I moved it to try and avoid future overwriting as the name File:Gallery.jpg was too generic. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 13:26, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 13:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
 Thank you.. Ww2censor (talk) 15:16, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Checking source of deleted image

File:Artur Mas - Fotografia oficial.jpg and File:Artur Mas 2011 (cropped).jpg have been deleted as "no permission", but they are very likely to be free as {{Attribution-gencat}}. Since I can't see the image, I'm asking an administrator to check if a source is stated in the deleted file description page, before filing an undeletion request.--Pere prlpz (talk) 09:31, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

The source is the president.cat website. Pleclown (talk) 11:34, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

License query PD-India and Commons

A few Indian editors have been talking on this issue, and we want to know this Help desk's opinion:

  1. A book is published in India before 1955, but after 1923 (Public domain in India following +60 years)
  2. The uploader is Indian;
  3. Uploader is uploading the book from India.
  4. If a book (or content) is in PD in India, is it allowed on Commons or we need to add PD or free license tag for the US as well?

Is Template:PD-India only okay to upload it? Thanks in advance. --Tito☸Dutta 12:26, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

It is OK if the author died before 1941, because of COM:URAA. Please add {{PD-India-URAA}}. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Florakadar's photos

File:Florakadar1.jpg File:Florakadar.jpg

Kérem a megfelelő eljárást a két képpel kapcsolatban. A képek jogsértőek, de a feltöltőjük folyamatosan eltávolítja róluk a sablont. Elnézést, hogy nem angolul írok, de nem tudom jól a nyelvet. Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 15:30, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Google translate: Please correct procedures in relation to the two pictures. The images infringing , but the uploader removes them permanently in the template. I'm sorry that I do not write in English, but I do not know the language well . Hungarikusz Firkász (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

The pics named above are not unlisenced, I have sent To: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org to prove the permissions. I have already received an automatically generated response: Thank you for your email. This is an automatically generated response to inform you that your message has been received.Borgatya (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

"Users who have sent a permission to OTRS but haven't received confirmation yet can use {{subst:OP}} to tell others that it's in progress." Please see Commons:OTRS. Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:13, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Some photos by CAPTAIN RAJU

Someone may want to take a look at this user’s contributions: CAPTAIN RAJU (talk · contribs): I stumbled upon him when dissiminating categories in his uploads of tram and train photos, but I noticed he also has euro banknote photos in close-up (copyvio?), and several photos on prostitution in Italy (in scope by themselves) with quiestionable descriptions and filenames. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 06:51, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Please create a DR. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:04, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Problems with German / Austrian logos

Hello, can a German-speaking admin from both Austria and Germany have a look at these uploads? It's an Italian user who uploaded a lot of television broadcasters' logos. Now, apart from the wrong licence (which can be fixed), the logos of Italian televisions cannot be considered copyrightable for lack of originality, but I don't know what German and Austrian laws mean for Threshold of originality. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:49, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

At least Germany, too, has some fairly high threshold of originality and most TV logos of German channels I can think of would be ineligible or just PD-textlogo. I'm going to have to look at it. De728631 (talk) 17:20, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Actually there are no German logos in Laky's uploads but I've checked all the Austrian ones. After considering the legal provisions quoted in de:Schöpfungshöhe I changed the licenses for most of those images to {{PD-textlogo}} and nominated three more sophisticated logos for deletion (discussion). But there is still a bunch of Slovenian and Croatian logos in Laky's inventory that should be checked too. De728631 (talk) 17:51, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks De728631. So shall we request for some Croatian- or Slovenian- language speaking admins? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 19:24, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Abuse

Hi there! I think this person has the wrong idea about Commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Lizko7 Thank you! Palosirkka (talk) 13:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Warned, files DRed. Yann (talk) 14:01, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm afraid I've got two more of the same, 1 and 2. Palosirkka (talk) 15:29, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Warned, files deleted. Yann (talk) 16:33, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Another one here. Palosirkka (talk) 10:43, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Taken care of. --Túrelio (talk) 10:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

User:A19dz

Please check contributions (Special:Contributions/A19dz) because I think that all the pictures from the Internet --محمد الفلسطيني (talk) 08:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by A19dz. Yann (talk) 12:04, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Delete old revision

Could an admin please delete the first revision of File:Park Hyo-Shin.jpg? The license review only applies to the newest revision. Thanks. INeverCry 20:47, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 20:50, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

File de-merge

Can I please have an admin de-merge File:Mauritius Road Signs - Information Sign - One-way traffic.svg from File:UK traffic sign 652.svg (history here)? It is inappropriate to merge signs from two different countries, and also they use different shades of blue so they aren't the same anyway. Fry1989 eh? 03:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:21, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Can someone remove all of my user rights please? Thanks. 1989 03:23, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Taivo (talk) 09:33, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Ανώνυμος 4, sockpuppet

Ανώνυμος 4 (talk · contribs) is one more sockpuppet by user:Πρώτη Σερρών. Just keeps coming back, uploading copyrighted content. --C messier (talk) 13:25, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:29, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Steinsplitter, please delete also his uploads, they are all copyvios, apart from block evasions. --C messier (talk) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Deleted. --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

How about this userpage

How about this userpage [14], is it in scope ?--Motopark (talk) 13:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Archives cantonales jurassiennes has donated files to Commons, therefore i believe that the page is in scope. --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
This discussion is out of place. There is an active Deletion request.

File:Max Mosley during a interview.jpg

Dear Admins, Is the copyright of this image of Max Mosley secure? The uploader's other images have the same Canon camera model but this image lacks metadata. I have no other concerns as the uploader has no copy vio problems on his/her talkpage....and am prepared to assume good faith since the images reportedly date to 2008. The uploader must be a racing fan to take this good image. I am hoping the copyright is OK. Any views, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Max Mosley during a interview.jpg for my opinion. Nyttend (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
  •  Delete: Its a copyright violation apparently...and the image taken from a different website It is unfortunate but true. Commons has almost no free images of Mosley but this image seemed suspicious. The only keep reason I can think to possibly keep is that the uploader's other images all have 600 X 400 resolution but they all have camera metadata too unlike this one. --Leoboudv (talk) 06:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Are we back to "delete because this is too good" ? Pleclown (talk) 12:09, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
There's no reason to discuss this here: the proper venue for this discussion is at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Max Mosley during a interview.jpg, please stop double dipping on the same problem until after the deletion nomination takes place. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Reply

Ellin Beltz: I have given my opinion on the said nomination. I'm addressing here a larger point. Nyttend seems to think that there are some pictures that cannot be under free licenses, as they are "too good to be true". I've been accused of copyvio on one of my photos (the rationale being "obviously not own work"), and I think that such accusations are not to be made lightly. Could we please stop this kind of behavior ? Pleclown (talk) 16:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Next time open the discussion with only that point as a new discussion because that's not what was being discussed here, this was a duplicate of a DN. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.


Please delete

Hal FUNK Basses and Guitars user removes my speedy deletion tag.--Motopark (talk) 06:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done I deleted it. Taivo (talk) 10:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Commons delinker requests

Sorry, but somebody else needs to do it for a month or so, than I will hopefully come back. Repeated moves of Latin names to Cyrillic names drive me crazy, and I want to kill the filemovers. (On top of the fact that almost none of the files moved according to criterion 2 strictly speaking are good moves according to criterion 2). This is not a good state for me to continue, and I need to take a break. I would also appreciate if someone takes a look at User:CommonsDelinker/commands/byHand which apparently was not acted on in a couple of years at least.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Ymblanter for taking care of that (boring) job upto now. Yann (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

1370 files transferred from a likely bad Flickr acct

This DR: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Borage (Borago officinalis), also known as a starflower (3) (23629871543).jpg could probably use immediate admin attention. I don't doubt Fæ's findings here, and it might be better for Commons to get these 1370 files speedy deleted rather than waiting a week. As uploader, I would support that action. I've placed all the files from the stream in Category:Photographs by Flower Photos. INeverCry 20:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 21:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
@Yann: Can you or another admin blacklist 137445322@N04? (If you haven't done so already). INeverCry 22:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
✓ Done Natuur12 (talk) 22:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Natuur12. I've also tagged Category:Photographs by Flower Photos for speedy deletion as an empty. INeverCry 22:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Deleted it. Natuur12 (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

This is an important tool to find external links to bad Flickr authros but it doesn't seem to work properly: [15] has one hit. If I change the link on the image page to https it's not found anymore. Actually it seems not possible to have it work independent of the protocol prefix which makes this tool utterly broken. Defaulting to http protocol if not protocol prefix is given may be problematic as well. Any idea how to fix this or to get a better link search functionality for Commons:Questionable Flickr images/Users--Denniss (talk) 00:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadget-DelReqHandler.js#Enabling gadget for categories for discussion

Further opinions would be acknowledged. --Leyo 13:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Uploads disappear

Hi. Yesterday I uploaded several images about Dakar 2016 taken from this website. The images were licenced with Creative Commons licence. But now I don't have any trail of them. Do you know what happened to them?--Roblespepe (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

They were deleted. File:Jeremías GFerioli-Villazón-Dakar2016.jpg. Bidgee (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
As an example, File:501-de Rooy.jpg, one of the uploads, was deleted by Jameslwoodward because "source does not specify which CC license applies -- some are acceptable, NC and ND are not." The site footer does not specify which CC license is used. I note though that there is also text "Éste sitio web otorga la licencia Creative Commons, donde se permite copiar y pegar en cualquier otro lugar, siempre y cuando se respeten los créditos correspondientes." which is an attribution requirement, but no evidence of NC or ND.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
The footer reads:
"Éste sitio web otorga la licencia Creative Commons, donde se permite copiar y pegar en cualquier otro lugar, siempre y cuando se respeten los créditos correspondientes."
This web site grants the Creative Commons, where you can copy and paste elsewhere, provided that the appropriations are respected.
translator: Google
It seems to me that that is an incomplete license. "Copy and paste elsewhere" would not permit derivative works or, for that matter, printed works -- only use on the Web and perhaps in e-books. Unless the source chooses to specify a correct form of the CC license, I don't think we can keep these. And, of course, this is not the correct place to argue the question. Roblespepe is free to take the issue to Commons:Undeletion requests. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:18, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Roblespepe, the best thing would be for you to contact them asking to clarify the license in their page. Alternatively, they could be released through OTRS. Platonides (talk) 15:59, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Ahh Ok. Thanks Jim and Platónides. I will ask them to clarify the licence.--Roblespepe (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

User:Sveintraserud/DRs of two userpages

This user has just nominated the userpages of crat/admin JuTa and another editor for deletion, accusing them of trolling. Can an admin warn him about this? I've removed the two listings from the daily DR list and speedied the DR pages. I'm going to bed soon though, and I don't want this user to repeat these DRs. Thanks. INeverCry 09:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Blocked them for 3 days for uploading files previously deleted as copyright violation as well as for personal attacks.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
The user sent me a wikimail which contains personal attacks and harassment.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
✓ Done, that case I blocked him indefinitely without right to send a wikimail. Taivo (talk) 21:10, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Template:Flight archives from Flightglobal

I need help here -- this question arose at a discussion on UNDR.

The subject template, {{Flight archives from Flightglobal}} calls out OTRS #2016010410016319 which gives a license for "581 image files in the Wikimedia Commons Category:Images from the Flightglobal Archive as of 17th December 2015". (The category name has been changed --- no matter.)

However, the category lead calls out 585 images and there are actually 600 images in the category. It appears that 19 images have been added to the category that are not covered by the permission. I tried using VFC, but the date shown there is the last edit, not the date of upload, so that's not a help. Does anyone know a way of sorting a category by date or otherwise picking out the 19 images that are post 17 December 2015 without going through them one at a time?

If we can figure out the correct 581, they should be put in a gallery or at least a list should be made that can easily be checked. A Category is a terrible place for this since you cannot audit additions or subtractions easily.

It also seems to me that when we use a template for this kind of thing, it out to be subst: into the applicable files and then deleted so that it cannot easily be added to files that are not part of the permission. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:06, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I am responsible for the problem (although in my defense, it was worse before…).
  • There were 583, not 581, files in the original category on Dec 17th. The number 581 was copy-pasted by the Flightglobal exectutive from one of my suggestions and it landed in their permission e-mail. It is possible that number count appeared briefly: files were actively being added and deleted from this contentious category at the time.
  • In these 583 files two should never have been in the category (1 & 2). That is back to 581.
  • I then took the liberty of adding 4 files to the category: 1 2 3 4. These were already at Wikimedia Commons and correctly sourced, but not in the right category, when Flightglobal re-licensed the files. This was probably a mistake.
  • Since then Petebutt has uploaded more files to this category. As discussed on his/her talk page, this should not have happened either.
I realize using the category and not drawing a full list was a mistake. I apologize. I do not know how the "subst+delete" method works but if it can prevent the template being added to more files, let’s do it. I am starting work immediately to figure out the list of the only 583 - 2 = 581 files which should have the template and will report here.
Apologies for my mistakes. Please help me fix them. Ariadacapo (talk) 17:42, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm working on it. Stefan2, your script with help from Excel and AWB has solved the immediate problem. Thank you very much. Category:Images from the Flightglobal archives now has only the 581 images in it. I'll make a gallery after I have lunch. Ariadacapo, I think I have the problem under control -- please stand by. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:02, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
OK, you have a legal problem, but why on earth did you limit the permission to only 581 images when there are probably well over 10000 images which could benefit wikimedia!!! I am dumb-founded!!--Petebutt (talk) 18:05, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
@Petebutt: Hey, back off. The Flightglobal executives, not I, limited the permission to those files. Perhaps if it was your time, energy, emails, international calls etc instead of mine they would have gone for 10,000. Gosh I am starting to see why other editors hate the atmosphere at Wikimedia Commons. Ariadacapo (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
OK here is a list of 583 - 2 = 581 files for which I am absolutely certain OTRS ticket #2016010410016319 applies:
File list

Category: St. Louis Rams players/St. Louis Rams needs to be renamed to Los Angeles Rams

I did this on Simple Wikipedia. There are a lot of images in this category. Maybe a bot should do it because there are a lot of images. The reason is the team announced that it was moving to Los Angeles and changed its logo. Thank you. Nepaxt (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

For images, cat-a-lot is the way to go. It is a standard gadget, which may be enabled in the Preferences.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:55, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Please move to right place

archive [16] to right place--Motopark (talk) 05:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done --★ Poké95 05:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Please move to right place

User/Allerniome/Agapanthus to right place--Motopark (talk) 05:11, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

✓ Done moving the userpage. Deletion of redirect was done by Didym. --★ Poké95 05:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Worth an undeletion request?

In Help:Searching I found a red link to Template:Helppagelinks. Looking there I’ve seen this has once existed, but was deleted. The reasoning, though, which can be read in the linked Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Helppagelinks was “unused template”, which is obviously wrong. Not being an admin I cannot judge, whether this template served the purpose it was supposed to.
Hence my question: Would this template be useful? If so, in my eyes similar templates would be useful in other help articles, too – or a general template with adjustable parameter(s). --Speravir (Talk) 19:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Please file a undeletion request at COM:UDEL if you believe the file schould be undeleted. Undeletion discussions should be held on the aforementioned page.--Steinsplitter (talk) 19:28, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Steinsplitter, it is a template, not a file. ;) ★ Poké95 13:29, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
@Pokéfan95: Undeletion requests for all pages schould be filed at COM:UDEL. --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:52, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hmmm, I know, my English is quite poor, but: There are exactly two solutions – first and simple, deleting the only use of a not any more existing template (the use in Help:Searching), or second, but with more effort, filing an undeletion request and then probably undeleting because of wrong reasoning. I simply want to know, if the deleted template was useful enough for trying the second solution. --Speravir (Talk) 20:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Because there was no reaction anymore (Update: Oops, that’s wrong), I solved it the other way and dared to delete the use in Help:Searching, cf. Special:Diff/184935853. --Speravir (Talk) 19:35, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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All files which do not belong to that ticket have been moved up one level and I will remove the permission & license templates from them now.
Now, I need help making sure that the permission template is not easily applied to more files. How do we do that? Ariadacapo (talk) 18:09, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
First, see Flight archives from Flightglobal for a complete list in permanent form -- I have protected it so only Admins can change it.
For the template, I think what I should do is change the template call from a transclusion to a substitution. An ordinary template call (a transclusion) looks to the template every time a page containing it is called, so if the template is changed, the page containing it also changes. If you substitute the template (as in {{subst:Flight archives from Flightglobal}}), then whatever is in the template at the moment of substitution is included in the page, so that when the template changes, the pages it is used on do not change. If I do that, then after it is done, we can delete the template so it cannot be used again. If we ever need it again -- if Flight licenses more pix, then its code will be available on any of the 581 image files. This can be an automatic process using either VFC or AWB.
Comments?
.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I think we should have a bot substitute the template layout on the file pages and the delete the template itself. In related news I have added some obvious PD templates in Category:Images from the Flightglobal archives and opened a deletion discussion for other images. De728631 (talk) 19:39, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Jim/Jameslwoodward, for the work and the explanations. Two comments:
  1. Please leave me 24 hrs before transcluding, so I can edit the template: it needs to be more clear that only a limited number of files were covered;
  2. Can you unprotect the wiki page temporarily (24hrs)? I would like to prettify the header. I am convinced that having a clean communication about this will help us get more files in the future.
I have to go now but within 24 hrs I will find time to fix those. Thank you! Ariadacapo (talk) 19:51, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
1) Sure, let me know when you're ready.
2) Done. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
✓ Done, perhaps a short proof-read of both the template and the page header is required. I’m off to a busy week but I will stand by and intervene if needed. Thank you for your assistance, Jim. -- Ariadacapo (talk) 20:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
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