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Cette page recense les images qui sont proposées pour être affichées dans les Images remarquables. Notez qu'il ne s'agit pas de la même chose que l'image du jour ou que les images de qualité.

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Les archives des votes précédents se trouvent sur cette page.

Il existe également une liste chronologique des images remarquables.

Voir aussi les Images de qualité, les propositions d'images de qualité et les critiques photographiques.

Procédure

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Conseils avant de proposer une image

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partie en cours de traduction depuis la version anglaise, votre avis est le bienvenu.

Lisez entièrement le guide avant de commencer

Quelques règles informelles à retenir avant de proposer une image (les termes en italiques sont la traduction anglaise des termes).

  • Définition (display resolution) : les images de Commons peuvent être utilisées sur d'autres supports qu'un écran d'ordinateur, par exemple pour être imprimées ou vues à très haute résolution. Il est important que les images proposées aient la plus haute résolution possible. Au moins 2 millions de pixels (par ex. 2000 x 1000) semble raisonnable à présent. Les images de définition inférieure sont systématiquement rejetées sauf s'il y a une bonne raison.
  • Mise au point (focus) : tous les objets importants de l'image devraient être nets. Dans l'idéal les objets non primordiaux sont nets.
  • Avant-plan et arrière-plan (background and foreground): ils peuvent être dérangeants. Le sujet principal ne devrait pas être caché par le premier plan, ni se confondre avec l'arrière-plan.
  • Qualité générale (general quality) : Les images proposées devraient avoir une très haute qualité technique.
  • Une retouche (digital manipulations) ne doit pas tromper l'observateur. La correction de quelques défauts dans l'image est acceptée pour autant que ce soit limité, bien fait, et non pour tromper. Les retouches courantes sont le recadrage, la correction de la perspective, de netteté, des couleurs ou de l'exposition. Des manipulations plus importantes, tels quel l'élimination d'éléments dans l'arrière plan, doivent être décrites dans la description de l'image, par le biais du modèle {{RetouchedPicture}}. Les retouches non décrites ou mal décrites qui transformeraient le sujet sont inacceptables.
  • Utilité (value) : notre but principal est de présenter des images utiles et précieuses. Les images devraient ainsi être spéciales d'une façon ou d'une autre, donc, entre autres :
    • La plupart des coucher de soleil sont beaux, et la plupart ne sont pas différents des autres existant déjà.
    • Les photos de nuit sont souvent belles mais davantage de détails sont visibles de jour.
    • "Beau" ne veut pas dire "utile".

Au niveau technique, nous avons l'exposition, la composition, le mouvement et la profondeur du champ.

  • L'exposition (exposure) est l'obturation du diaphragme qui modifie la luminosité (brightness) pour rendre avec qualité les ombres et les lumières au sein de l'image. Le manque d'ombres dans le détail n'est pas nécessairement négatif, cela peut être un effet désiré.
  • La composition (composition) est l'arrangement des éléments dans l'image. La "Règle de trois" est un bon guide pour la composition, c'est un héritage des écoles de peintures. L'idée est de diviser l'image par deux lignes horizontales et deux lignes verticales, nous avons donc trois parties dans chaque sens. L'objet ne doit pas forcément être centré. Les sujets intéressants doivent êtres placés aux 4 croisements des lignes. L'horizon ne doit jamais être mis au milieu, car il couperait l'image en deux. L'idée principale ici est de rendre l'image dynamique.
  • Netteté (sharpness) renvoie à la manière dont les mouvements sont représentés dans l'image. Ils peuvent être nets ou flous. Ils ne sont pas mieux l'un que l'autre, cela dépend de l'intention du photographe. L'impression de mouvement dépend des différents objets de l'image. Par exemple, photographier une voiture de course qui apparaît nette par rapport à l'arrière plan ne donne pas une idée de la vitesse. Il faudrait en fait que la voiture soit représentée nette, mais avec un arrière plan flou, créant ainsi le mouvement. D'un autre coté, représenter le saut d'un joueur de basket net avec le reste de l'image flou, en raison de la nature peu habituelle de la photo, lui conférerait de l'intérêt.
  • La profondeur de champ (depth of field or DOF) renvoie à la zone de mise au point devant et au delà du sujet principal. La profondeur de champ est choisie en fonction des besoins spécifiques à chaque image. Une profondeur grande ou petite peut améliorer ou dégrader la qualité de l'image. Une faible profondeur de champ peut attirer l'attention sur le sujet principal, en le séparant de son environnement. Les lentilles à petite distance focale (grand angle) ont une grande profondeur de champ, et vice versa, les lentilles à grande distance focale (petite ouverture) ont une petite profondeur de champ.

Proposition

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Si vous pensez avoir trouvé ou créé une image qui puisse être considérée comme parmi les meilleures de Commons, avec une description et une licence appropriée, copiez le nom de l'image dans la boîte ci-dessous (en incluant le préfixe File:), après le texte déjà présent :


Après cela, vous devrez insérer un lien vers la page que vous venez de créer en haut de Commons:Featured picture candidates/candidate list.

Vote

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A l'exclusion de tous autres, vous pouvez utiliser les modèles suivants:

  • {{Pour}} ( Support),
  • {{Contre}} ( Oppose),

Ainsi que :

  • {{Neutre}} ( Neutral),
  • {{Comment}} ( Comment),
  • {{Info}} ( Info),
  • {{Question}} ( Question).


IMPORTANT: veuillez notamment NE PAS UTILISER les modèles {{weak support}} ( Weak support) ni {{weak oppose}} ( Weak oppose), ils ne sont pas reconnus par le robot, et votre vote serait considéré comme non valide.

Merci d'inclure quelques mots expliquant pourquoi vous soutenez ou non la promotion de l'image, surtout si vous votez contre. N'oubliez pas de signer avec ~~~~.

Règles

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Règles générales

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  1. Le résultat est donné 9 jours après la proposition (voir le planning en bas de page). Les votes ajoutés le 10e jour ou après ne sont pas décomptés.
  2. Les utilisateurs non-enregistrés peuvent proposer des images, faire des commentaires, mais pas voter.
  3. La proposition elle-même ne compte pas comme un vote : il faut l'ajouter explicitement.
  4. Le proposant peut retirer une image à tout moment, en écrivant : {{Withdraw}} ~~~~
  5. Souvenez-vous que le but de Wikimedia Commons est une bibliothèque pour tous les projets Wikimedia, y compris des projets futurs ; les images n'ont pas à être utiles uniquement pour Wikipédia.
  6. Les images peuvent être retirées de la liste dès le 5e jour si elles n'ont reçu aucun vote "pour".
  7. Soyez attentifs et très sélectifs dans les choix que vous faites, car il ne peut y avoir que deux propositions actives par proposant. Toute proposition supplémentaire sera rejetée sans examen.
  8. Seulement 2 nominations actives par même utilisateur (qui est, en nomination sous "review" et non encore close) sont autorisées. Le principal but de cette mesure est de contribuer à une meilleure qualité moyenne des nominations, par un choix plus judicieux des photos présentes en nominations.

Règles de promotion

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L'image candidate devient une image remarquable si elle remplit les conditions suivantes :

  1. Une licence appropriée (bien sûr !)
  2. Au moins sept votes "pour".
  3. un ratio de 2/1 de votes "pour"/"contre".
  4. Deux versions différentes de la même image ne peuvent pas être promues en même temps, mais seulement celle avec le plus grand score.

Contestations

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Avec le temps, les critères d'évaluation évoluent, et il peut être décidé qu'une image qui était auparavant assez bonne pour être dans la liste ne peut plus l'être.

Pour qu'une image soit déchue, il faut qu'une majorité de 2/3 avec au moins 5 votes accepte de retirer l'image, autrement elle reste "remarquable". Pour voter, utiliser les modèles {{Keep}} ( Keep : mérite de rester "remarquable") ou {{Delist}} ( Delist  : ne mérite plus le label).

Pour contester une image, copiez son nom avec le préfixe dans la boîte ci-dessous à la suite du texte déjà présent :


Vous devriez inclure les informations suivantes :

  • Informations sur l'origine de l'image (créateur, importateur).
  • Un lien vers le vote d'origine.
  • La raison pour laquelle vous contestez le label, avec votre signature.

Insérez ensuite un lien en haut de Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal.

Sommaire

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Pour ajouter votre proposition à la liste

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Pour ajouter votre proposition à la liste, cliquez ici et ajoutez votre proposition en haut de la liste : {{Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:FILENAME}}

Propositions en cours

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File:Old Jewish cemetery in Cieszyn (Teschen) 03.jpg

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Voting period ends on 12 Dec 2024 at 15:42:11 (UTC)
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File:Hélène Carrère d’Encausse par Claude Truong-Ngoc sept 2013.jpg

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Voting period ends on 12 Dec 2024 at 09:20:42 (UTC)
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Hélène Carrère d'Encausse, 2013

File:Sri Prasanna Anjaneya Gudi on Hemakuta hill (02).jpg

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Voting period ends on 12 Dec 2024 at 05:42:20 (UTC)
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Sri Prasanna Anjaneya Gudi on Hemakuta hill

File:Aztec Sandstone - Valley of Fire1.jpg

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Voting period ends on 12 Dec 2024 at 02:11:21 (UTC)
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Aztec Sandstone - Valley of Fire

File:Mount Spry and the East Temple.jpg

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Voting period ends on 12 Dec 2024 at 02:11:34 (UTC)
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Mount Spry and the East Temple

File:Noctua fimbriata (caterpillar) focus stacking-20241118-RM-211015.jpg

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 23:06:19 (UTC)
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Caterpillar of the variegated banded owl (Noctua fimbriata) on a Muehlenbeckia

File:2011-05-29 046b Wikivoyage banner image of Your rainbow panorama - Aarhus, Denmark.jpg

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 20:10:06 (UTC)
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Your rainbow panorama installation by Ólafur Eliasson at the ARoS Aarhus Art Museum, Denmark.
 Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: per COM:FPC and COM:I: "Images should have at least 2 real megapixels of information"-- Basile Morin (talk) 22:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

File:Newport Beach Pier by Don Ramey Logan.tif

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 16:13:56 (UTC)
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Newport Beach Pier
or Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:The Vela supernova remnant imaged by the VLT Survey Telescope (eso2214a).tiff -- Basile Morin (talk) 09:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The colours are really nice and vibrant. However, I'm not sure whether 3:2 is the best aspect ratio here; there is a lot of negative space with lines (boat trails) leading away from the main subject, quite distracting IMO. Would like to see a different crop and reconsider. BigDom (talk) 06:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:1961 Cooper T53 Donington Park 2023 01.jpg

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 11:28:25 (UTC)
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1961 Cooper T53 in a historic race at Donington Park in 2023.

File:Yoram Taharlev Portrait.jpg

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File:Two holes and green leaves on the bark of a tree trunk in the forest in Luang Prabang Laos.jpg

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 05:38:47 (UTC)
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Two holes and green leaves on the bark of a tree trunk in the forest in Luang Prabang Laos

File:Sääse tiib.jpg

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Voting period ends on 11 Dec 2024 at 03:13:05 (UTC)
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  • Here < is also a "winning work" (first prize) that would be straight rejected at FPC per COM:I.
  • "Chromatic problems also come from our standard lenses and are usually easily fixable in post-treatment. I made a try on Lightroom with this picture and got spectacular improvement. The result is of course available on request.
  • These stacking issues are fixable in my opinion (like were the others similarly supposed to be "impossible"). The goal is to promote the best images, here, not all the interesting photos. It may take some time of extra work, only.
  • Possible also to start with COM:QIC (easier) before FPC.
  • Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination

File:Iglesia de San Juan, ciudad de Luxemburgo, Luxemburgo, 2023-12-16, DD 31-33 HDR.jpg

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Voting period ends on 10 Dec 2024 at 14:32:53 (UTC)
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File:Secretario (Sagittarius serpentarius), parque nacional de Amboseli, Kenia, 2024-05-23, DD 13.jpg

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Voting period ends on 10 Dec 2024 at 13:57:33 (UTC)
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File:Basílica del Sagrado Corazón, París, Francia, 2022-10-30, DD 33-35 HDR.jpg

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Voting period ends on 10 Dec 2024 at 13:56:38 (UTC)
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Basilica of the Sacred Heart, Paris, France

File:Albert Einstein sticks his tongue.jpg

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Albert Einstein sticks his tongue out for photographer Arthur Sasse after his 72nd birthday party on March 14, 1951

File:Lantern bug (Pyrops candelaria) Double Haven HK.jpg

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Voting period ends on 10 Dec 2024 at 10:43:39 (UTC)
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Family : Fulgoridae (Planthoppers, Lanternflies)

File:Saturday Evening Post 1943 Unpublished (Leyendecker).jpg

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Voting period ends on 10 Dec 2024 at 06:45:53 (UTC)
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Unpublished variation of J.C. Leyendecker's famous Saturday Evening Post New Year's Baby, intended for use in 1943.

File:Namdae stream water reflection of colorful clouds from Wolhwagyo bridge in Gangneung South Korea.jpg

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Namdae stream water reflection of colorful clouds from Wolhwagyo bridge in Gangneung South Korea

File:2024-11-19-Central Park-0669.jpg

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View over The Lake (Central Park, New York City) to Building San Remo in autum 2024

File:Líderes indígenas.jpg

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Chief Raoni Metuktire of the Kayapó people with an indigenous leader from other countries in Abya Ayalam (during the National Movement of Indigenous Peoples that takes place in the capital of Brazil).
  •  Support — Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support Very expressive, strong image. I wonder a bit about the noticeable noise. I would not mind it at all if this was a photo taken under difficult circumstances at high ISO speed, but acc. to the Exif data this photo was taken at ISO speed rating 180 with a Nikon D3200, therefore I would expect a very low level of noise. Strange. – Aristeas (talk) 20:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I agree with Aristeas, in my opinion it looks like the noise has been artificially added. Sometimes photographers do this to either simulate "analog grain" or to mask blur/shake. I took the liberty of creating a denoised version: SwissTransfer link If you and the community are fine with the result, please feel free to use the file for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 22:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Man and woman, I think. How do you guess these intentions by the author? I don't find them on the file page. These elements may be important. In the background but perhaps also on the subjects, with painting brushes. Without RAW we have no idea about how looks like the initial work -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for pointing that out. You're certainly right, it's probably definitely a man. I just suspected, as I did, that the author wanted to black out something he thought was unimportant. But without a raw file, I can only guess, not know. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 07:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understood. Thanks. In this case, I also regret that the resolution is only 3,016 × 2,121 pixels, about four times smaller than what the sensor of this camera is capable of. Probably downsized image, then, which is against COM:I -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks again to Basile, I hadn't checked the link at first. Sorry, of course Raoni Metuktire is a man. Too bad we couldn't rescue the nomination, because the motif is really impressive. -- Radomianin (talk) 12:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ramsau bei Berchtesgaden (DE), Milchstraße über Hochkalter & Hintersee -- 2024 -- 1018-50.jpg

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Voting period ends on 9 Dec 2024 at 03:05:10 (UTC)
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Milky way over the Hochkalter Massif and Lake Hintersee in Ramsau bei Berchtesgaden, Bavaria, Germany
No, it's supposed to be natural :-) And please, assume good faith, it's your work. You should know (better than us) what you've done in the sky -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You brought it up, so I'm interested in what you consider being "artificial" in the sky. Is it about emphasising the structure of the Milky Way (high/low or white/black)? I don't understand, assuming good faith, what you're getting at. A. Öztas (talk) 04:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. "Emphasising the structure". "High / low, white / black" -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will you also explain why you quote it like that or do you want me to guess? A. Öztas (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You guessed well and put words (your own words) on the issue mentioned above -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't think a painting brush was used, the milky way has brighter borders on each side that can naturally be captured by long exposure photos -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Giles Laurent: , thanks for your comment. Please take a look at the 3 versions in the history. Resize them at the same size, and superimpose them, each separately. Then you realize very clearly that yes, a painting brush was used. Moreover, it's very possible also that the initial upload was already more or less heavily edited. In this version, the center of the sky is too dark, and certainly not faithful -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't know exactly what you mean by painting brush - it's the first time I've heard the term in this context - but if you mean masking, I've already commented on this with regard to the white and black levels. I'm just surprised at the astonishment, as this is a common process in image processing. Or are we talking at cross purposes? A. Öztas (talk) 13:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Painting brush" is the official name on many software editors, isn't it? Usually an icon with a "painting brush" 🖌. Now there's a 4th version uploaded. Not yet observed. But If you darken selectively some areas here and there, while the sky is supposed to be a giant uniform surface, it makes it fake -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for clarifying, what you mean. By your reasoning, wouldn't most photos then qualify as "fake", not only on FP? We can discuss this matter on my talk page, if you want. This would not only apply to (even slight) HDR images but also to those where, for example, a building is subtly emphasized. If you set the threshold for "fake" at any adjustment that doesn’t globally affect the entire image, then so be it — at least that's a clear position. As for the term "painting brush", as I mentioned earlier, I wasn't familiar with it in this context. In the software I use, this tool is called "draw mask". Either way, I hope we’ve now discussed this topic thoroughly. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion continues below and I'm also interested in talking with other participants, having different points of view -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just checked the picture on my computer (I was previously on my phone) and it seems you were right that a painting brush was used.
However I don't think the result is very different at first sight from adjusting curves/exposure adjustments, which is something a lot of people do and the result doesn't look unatural to me (especially if you compare it to something really unnatural like this). But perhaps the center of the milky way was darkened too much (it's not supposed to be that much darker) and perhaps the brighter part shouldn't have been brightened with a paiting brush but with a global exposure/contrast adjustment because looking at thumbnail we see the brushstrokes and comparing it to the previous version, the brighter parts changed shape and were extended, which in the end changed a bit the shape of the milky way and is something that shouldn't happen.
Also, there's one other new thing I've noted now, there's a strange change change of exposure in this zone that might be improved -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed, both. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Abstain Painting brush removed. @Giles Laurent: there's a noticeable difference between the second-third-fourth and the fifth version, and in the previous ones, there was no reason to darken artificially some zones in the sky so as to create strong and unnatural contrasts. Thanks for pointing this out, and for confirming the manipulation was not only my subjective impression. The sky is supposed to be flat. So the normal processing in this case is not local touches but should be global, yes -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Olimxon saroyi (Sitorai Moxi-Xossa majmuasi) 05.jpg

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Voting period ends on 8 Dec 2024 at 19:02:04 (UTC)
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Carved wooden door with a copper ring handle at Olimkhon palace. Bukhara, Uzbekistan.
  • Yes, and sharpness could be better too. I'm honestly not sure about this one. I made this downsample which is 8.5 megapixels and better but still corner sharpness isn't great. But the motif is really cool so unsure how to vote, will think about this one. Cmao20 (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Under Hell Gate Bridge on Randalls Island (60104).jpg

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Hell Gate walking path

File:Vexierkapelle Reifenberg Luftbild-20240714-RM-170015.jpg

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Aerial view of the Vexier Chapel in Reifenberg

File:009 Greater flamingos male and female in the Camargue during mating season Photo by Giles Laurent.jpg

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Greater flamingos male and female in the Camargue during mating season

File:Main courtyard of Bou Inania Madrasa, Fez, Marocco.jpg

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Main courtyard of Bou Inania Madrasa, Fez, Marocco

File:Magevee karpvähiline (Ostracoda).jpg

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Voting period ends on 8 Dec 2024 at 03:23:03 (UTC)
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+ The author created the image to be viewed as you see it. It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer, make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors. If you don't see errors right away, then there are none. You can ruin any image in Photoshop, but the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop. Janeklass (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  What?! "make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors"? I would be the last person to do that. And it's very clear from the file page that you are the sole and only uploader. You're of course free to do what you like with your pictures, but for me it's a similar case to this one or that one nominated last week. Sorry to be allowed to review here... When I read Ikan's review below ("I do see details well"), I had the impression it was a mirror of my comment (now crossed out) above ("Some details look interesting"). I got curious and then noticed the stacking issues. Please fix these errors like in this nomination. By the way, where do you find that "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"? -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:13, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You downloaded the image to your computer, increased the light in Photoshop, and then you saw the errors. The "errors" you pointed out do not disturb or affect the image. I am very sorry, but I think your assessment is unfair and is not given because they somehow affect the photo, but because you just want to scold. Janeklass (talk) 05:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You darkened the image, not me ("background made darker" in your summary). And you made this change without notifying a (weak) supporter writing "Definitely too dark for me", nor other participants who could also find the image (really) too dark now. Photoshop helps to find potential issues like wrong embedded color profiles (which can make the appearance vary from a computer to another, example here). This was done to help you. It was a tool. But the stacking issues (now located) also appear in the current version -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You raised the light and only then did you see errors that were otherwise not visible. For me, they do not affect the image and the problem does not exist. If you add light, you can see all sorts of things. As an author, the light is set the way I want it and it is not intended to be changed by anyone else. Janeklass (talk) 06:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. You darkened the picture (for everyone, not only for me). Proof in the history of the file page and in the summary you left. Given the critics (here and elsewhere by other participants), it would have been more judicious to brighten the picture instead of the contrary. Otherwise it's like you want to hide the mistakes. You also hide the whole content in this blackness.
  2. No, my first impression was : "Some details look interesting at the bottom". But because it was dark, it could be a wrong impression. Confirmation (I mean denial of "interesting details") comes now, yes. Same as here. I think light should be adjusted and FS problems resolved -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your words " + After increasing the light on Photoshop, I also notice focus stacking errors. Image notes added". I'm referring to the fact that you didn't see the errors before you increased the light. So you amplified the errors yourself, which are otherwise not so visible and they don't affect the overall impression of the image. But okay, I added a little more light and I won't change this file any more Janeklass (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment If my eyes are good, there is no difference in the light between the first version and this one? And your words "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"... and worse: "the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop." Apologies, but this idea "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none" sounds a bit clumsy, according to the ton of similar nominations where errors / stitching problems are detected in the middle or even at the end of the voting period. A bunch of examples available in the archives. Currently the focus stacking errors are still present. Thus I don't change my vote -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing an image to amplify small flaws that aren't actually visible is very strange behavior to me. Janeklass (talk) 09:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Very visible now, even in the darkness. And also at the top right.
  2. Could be fixed / uploaded by someone else (not necessarily you).
  3. Alternative could be proposed. At least for the FS issues. Then it's a democratic choice. Could be also delisted and replaced by a more accurate version later. If you change your mind, or if someone else improves your image.
  4. Like it or not, that's how it works, actually. And how divergent opinions offer chances to improve.
  5. It's a mistake to believe that the purpose of increasing the light was "to amplify flaws". Certainly anyone else would / will do the same as observer or re-user, because it's very dark, then trying to evaluate the content fairly and see it under more favorable conditions is useful and / or necessary. The FS flaws popped up at this moment, and were not expected. Most of the users here are happy to meet the opportunity to correct their own images -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am happy to correct mistakes when I see that the criticism is relevant. At this moment, I feel that the criticism has been overdone and criticized for the sake of criticizing. These "mistakes" are not visible in the picture and do not spoil the picture. Janeklass (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These mistakes have just been revealed a few hours ago. And first reaction, you darkened the image, which had the effect of making the situation worse, and lengthening the discussion for everyone. It would undoubtedly be wiser to fix the issues like here or there. See also this interesting case -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't darken the image because of your alleged "errors". I cropped the image and at the same time noticed lighter areas in the background and thought that the background would be better completely black. Janeklass (talk) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... noticed something, too? For the record, you said "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none.". You changed the crop? You changed the light? Twice, already? Yes, things happen / appear in the light of a discussion, like in the light of a (well-exposed) photo -- Basile Morin (talk) 15:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can keep your opinion. I'll stick to my position and won't fix alleged errors that aren't actually visible and don't affect the image. Besides, this picture's value lies elsewhere for me (and for Wikipedia). What we actually see in the picture is much more important here - whether it ranks among the best is secondary. In my opinion, Wikipedia isn't Instagram, and I add pictures that have genuine informative value. Janeklass (talk) 03:35, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
🛑Stop it now. "You can keep your opinion" and other derogatory comments written above are against COM:CIVIL. All various and subjective opinions here are welcome and encouraged on this section, per the guidelines at COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". You don't like criticisms, this does not give you permission to be disrespectful to those who don't share your view. You voted above, fine, we all respect your choice, did not contest anything. Do the same, please. Now enough. It's an open project. -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the author's position not important, or do you always have to agree with criticism? If so, I will try to improve myself in the future and will not engage in further discussion.
For now, this discussion is over for me. Janeklass (talk) 05:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very good. -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of the Sun by ESA Solar Orbiter

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  • The Sun in UV light of 17.4 nanometres, taken by Solar Orbiter's Extreme Ultraviolet Imager (EUI) instrument, assembled from multiple images taken on 22 March 2023.
    The Sun in UV light of 17.4 nanometres, taken by Solar Orbiter's Extreme Ultraviolet Imager (EUI) instrument, assembled from multiple images taken on 22 March 2023.
  • A magnetogram of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight direction of the magnetic field on the Sun's disc, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
    A magnetogram of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight direction of the magnetic field on the Sun's disc, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
  • The velocity map of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight speed and direction of movement of material at the Sun's visible surface, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
    The velocity map of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight speed and direction of movement of material at the Sun's visible surface, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
  • The Sun Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023, at a wavelength of 617 nanometres.
    The Sun Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023, at a wavelength of 617 nanometres.

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Transfiguration Cathedral in Odesa. On July 23, 2023, the cathedral was severely damaged by a Russian missile attack

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Western cattle egret in the Camargue

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Kyzylkup table mountain. Kyzylsai regional park, Mangystau District, Mangystau Region, Kazakhstan

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Woman with hat in red dress, North Beach SF
  •  Support Many thanks for the appreciation, Екатерина Борисова. The picture was a real snapshot, we were first in a record store and then, as I recall, in a store next door, which we left with the friendly woman in red. During our walk through SF, my camera was always ready for spontaneous snapshots. -- Radomianin (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Busy background, nothing special. Yann (talk) 08:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Yann --Uoaei1 (talk) 08:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support When we want to show people walking on a city street the background will usually be busy; somehow the variety of the city must be included – if the background consists just of windows reflecting the sky or a wall we would not get the feeling that we are in the downtown. The vanishing lines of the row of cars on the left and of the buildings on the right, which converge above the centre of the picture, bring order to the composition; the woman seems to be walking towards this vanishing point, her placement slightly to the left adds tension to the composition. This placement, the bright colours of her clothing and the out-of-focus background make her stand out clearly from the background. For me, this is a good example of an intense, orderly and yet dynamic composition in the middle of the variety of a city centre. – Aristeas (talk) 16:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Yeah I think it's great. The colours, the outfit, the sense of movement, all superb. Good street photography. Cmao20 (talk) 18:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Thi (talk) 15:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per Yann. -- Karelj (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:20200222 FIS NC COC Eisenerz PRC HS109 Women Yuna Kasai 850 4048.jpg

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Yuna Kasai of Japan at FIS Nordic Combined Continental Cup Eisenerz 2020.
 Abstain Interesting. It's not an answer to my question, though, right? -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, forgot about that question. That's one of the many wind flags: a grey metal post and a red stripe of fabric. Granada (talk) 06:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Thanks. I wonder if the image wouldn't be more striking vertical. And the position of the skier would be more accurate. However I understand the difficulty here to follow the trajectory and to keep the subject within the frame at the same time. --Basile Morin (talk) 06:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the vote! By vertical do you mean like e.g. this one? To be honest I find these quite boring. They are the easiest to take by just pointing your camera upwards to the ski jumper coming from the take off. This one is not the sharpest as it was also taken at the same event and marks the beginning of a panning shot following the athlete. The moment the athlete comes past me (like in the FPC) she is around 90km/h fast and just 2-3m away. If I only want to asure that the photo is sharp I do it like that example and set the exposure time to 1/1000s or less (depending on weather conditions). Granada (talk) 12:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I wrongly assumed the photo was tilted, but realize now that it's probably not. The other shot, even if "easier" is also very good. For the speed, yes, it makes sense. Still the background would appear more static / frozen than here -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, therefore we are discussing here. The FPC-shot was made at the steepest part of the ski jumping hill, a few meters above the so called critical point of the hill. The post of that wind flag is mounted perpendicular to the slope of the hill and the image is completely horizontally. If you want to shoot from there you have to walk the stairs up. Granada (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launch
Discussion about technical details
  • I wonder why Bill Ingalls (given that he is/was a professional photographer) did not pay more attention to details, both in the composition (which he could have checked calmly before the start) and in the post-processing (which is done later). We can accept the leaning verticals, but the cropped flowers at the bottom are unsatisfying (either there should be more of them in the frame or they should have been cut off completely), the CAs are obvious and (given the low resolution) quite prominent. And the whole image, which has been underexposed to preserve the highlights, should have been brightened in post-processing. Given the incredible expenditure necessary for space missions, one could expect a bit more care from the photographer, too. – Aristeas (talk) 10:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment I'm pretty sure this specific type of picture is taken remotely. The focal length is 16mm in full frame, it's unlikely a person would be allowed this close to a rocket launch. Chromatic aberration might have been corrected, I agree. I know what you mean about preservation of highlights and underexposure, but I think the key to this picture being "wow" are the dramatic steam clouds. To make them dramatic, you need the darker shadows within them. Even if you correct the levels to enhance the dark foreground with flowers, you might make the vapor cloud less dramatic and therefore the photo less "wow". Of course, it's possible to make a feathered selection of the grass/flowers area and correct it while preserving dramatic vapor, but I'm not sure it's allowed for journalistic type of photos from NASA. Tupungato (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment Of course I did not want to say that this is a bad photo; it has much “wow” and high educational value. I just stumbled over a certain disparity between the incredible expenditure and expense for such a space mission on the one hand and a certain lack of care for the details shown by the photographer on the other hand. – You are certainly right that this photo has been taken remotely; and I would also assume that the camera was set to continuous shooting (burst mode), so the photographer triggered remotely the start of the continuous series and this is just one photo selected from that series. That’s all fine. I just meant that whoever has placed the camera on the tripod (or whatever) before could have thought a little bit longer about the framing. You are also completely right that the underexposure is intentional and correct in order to get a good image of the dramatic steam clouds. I just think that whoever has processed the raw image file later could have spent a little bit more time to remove the CAs and to lift the exposure again, just to achieve a more realistic impression. It should not even be necessary to make a feathured selection of the dark parts; just increasing the exposure by e.g. 0.25 EV, reducing the highlights by 0.25 EV and increasing the brightness of the shadows by 0.5 EV or so would already improve the image without sacrificing the clouds or adulterating the realistic impression. No offence, I really appreciate your selection of this photo and (as said above) just stumbled about the details. – Aristeas (talk) 11:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Star trails over Newgrange Ireland

* Support --Ermell (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Also this one by "AstroAnthony" is clearly a fake. There might be many other manipulations by this uploader (I don't want to waste hours examining each with a magnifying glass). It is not worth risking another time-consuming delisting process after potential POTY qualification like the previous case. -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure, if the author could provide the RAWs I would be happy to reconsider, but I think it's fair to assume that images by this user may be photomontages, particularly if they look 'too good to be true', and to vote accordingly. Cmao20 (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aegithalos caudatus (with feathers to pad the nest)
  • Follow-up  Comment Jerzy, this is really a lovely and wonderful photo, I (and other users) would really like to become it a Featured picture. We just think that the post-processing is not up to what your photo deserves. Modern tools allow to reduce the image noise greatly without sacrificing details (as old-styled noise removal did), therefore the new tools have rapidly become standard especially with wildlife photos. Just contact Poco a poco or e.g. Radomianin or me if you would appreciate a little help with this. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Aristeas for his engagement. The photo is too beautiful to let this nomination die. SwissTransfer link provided: This version is similar to Poco's (thanks for the edit), but in mine the colors are closer to the photographer's original. However, the degree of denoising and sharpness is similar to Poco's version. If you and the community find the edit acceptable, feel free to use it for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Will support Poco's version, but not this one. Cmao20 (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Jerzy Strzelecki Dear P .T. correctors of other people's photos: I must congratulate you on your effectiveness in warding off potential (+) voters. However, the next time an irresistible urge to correct you strikes, try to wait until the voting is over. I have over 8,000 images in Wikimedia, including some that have been used in dozens of Wikipedias. It's a shame that you chose to paste just the one I wanted to highlight - the friendly, slightly funny “Mustache”. And best leave the author's versions alone even if, in your opinion, they necessarily need improvement. This was supposed to be a bigger project [1]. However, a magpie or jay destroyed the nest with the young. The same thing with the vote on this photo was done by the enhancers. Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 13:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Hello Jerzy, I’m sorry but there seems to be a big misunderstanding. No offence, but your harsh comment deserves an open answer.
Please take a look at other nominations to understand better how this “Featured picture candidates” (FPC) page works. We do not first vote on a photo and discuss it later, as you seem to assume. We always discuss photos, often into details, and FPC regulars are used to propose improvements when they think a photo could be amended. This applies also and especially to wildlife photographs, and hints and suggestions about improving the post-processing are very common. This is neither derogatory nor impolite, on the contrary: when FPC voters suggest specific improvements, they (i.) confirm that your photo has potential and (ii.) want to help you to realize this potential better. This is actually a service for you. You have received a lot of praise for the photo and only completely constructive comments, two people have even edited the photo for you to help you – frankly, you should consider yourself lucky that you are being offered so much recognition and support.
You might wonder why people are so particular about the noise/sharpness level. That’s not arbitrary: we discuss this often, especially when it comes to wildlife photos, but often forget to explain this to newcomers. Wikimedia projects need especially sharp and noise-free photos for a special reason: our photos, and a fortiori Commons FPs, are not only viewed as a whole, but must also stand up to being cropped and have details extracted from them for articles, Wikibooks, etc.
If you have still doubts, ask other people who often nominate photos of animals (e.g. User:Charlesjsharp, User:Giles Laurent, User:Iifar, User:Poco a poco, User:Rhododendrites and many more): they will tell you that their photos are scrutinised and discussed just as closely, often even more closely, and usually without anyone offering to help them improve them. That was a particularly nice offer from our fellows to you.
Wikimedia Commons is not meant to be a site where people just brag about their photos and praise each other (like Flickr), but one where we work together, and there’s no better way to do that than by discussing how to improve images further. Getting on your high horse and insulting other users by comparing them to envious magpies or jays doesn’t help the poor little bird (for whom I have every sympathy), your beautiful photo, you or the project. – Aristeas (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely per Aristeas. Jerzystrzelecki, I had rather expected a "thank you" to those people you ironically call "enhancers" for dedicating their time to process and upload new versions (yes, improved ones) of your image. Your feedback is instead rude. If you cannot accept criticism to your work, you shouldn't nominate your photos to FP. Here we expect the highest quality and the wow effect. It is a bunch more than likes. Poco a poco (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[responding to ping] Yes, as Aristeas says this isn't just a vote but a forum where people provide feedback and, at times, even improve each other's images. You are not obliged to accept this help, of course, but it is part of what, in my opinion, makes this a constructive forum. That said, there are particularities among the community here, because of its origin in an encyclopedia, that can be jarring for people used to sharing photos elsewhere -- horizontals/verticals, noise, chromatic aberration, filters/saturation, unconventional crops, unconventional composition, etc. can all result in a failed nomination. There are exceptions, of course, but they're rare. Here, Poco a poco offered to make this adjustment for you. It sounds like that gesture wasn't desired. As a result, this nomination may fail. I've been in such a situation, too, where folks have suggested a crop or edit that I fundamentally disagreed with, and thus my nomination failed. It's frustrating, but that's the way it works. Just know that, for many people, they want to help you to get an image promoted rather than oppose and say nothing. You have to decide if you want that help, but remember it comes from a good place. — Rhododendrites talk |  17:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Man dressed as the pagan god Veles at the traditional Rękawka festival in Kraków

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Abandoned Ford van by Gerritsen Creek, Brooklyn

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Egyptian goose (Alopochen aegyptiaca) and goslings
  • Thanks for your update and sorry for my confusion. It's the idea of ​​"juvenile" that I wanted to introduce and I was also thinking that you would easily find the relevant subcategory. But it's a different branch and you're more than expert :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"Wait for me daddy":British Columbia Regiment, DCO, marching in New Westminster, 1940
Photographically the focus is wrong (and the crop tight at the left), it's a shame, but this image has its own story (and yes, also own article on en-wiki). It has become an iconic photograph. We should take this into account.
Finally, a reminder about the voting process. COM:FPC: The meaning of the image should be judged according to the cultural context of the image, not by the cultural context of the observer. An image "speaks" to people, and it has the capacity to evoke emotion such as tenderness, rage, rejection, happiness, sadness, etc. Good photographs are not limited to evoking pleasant sensations... -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 10 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Basile Morin (talk) 22:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hélène Carrère d'Encausse, 2013

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Sri Prasanna Anjaneya Gudi on Hemakuta hill

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Caterpillar of the variegated banded owl (Noctua fimbriata) on a Muehlenbeckia

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Your rainbow panorama installation by Ólafur Eliasson at the ARoS Aarhus Art Museum, Denmark.
 Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines and is unlikely to succeed for the following reason: per COM:FPC and COM:I: "Images should have at least 2 real megapixels of information"-- Basile Morin (talk) 22:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply] Anyone other than the nominator who disagrees may override this template by changing {{FPX}} to {{FPX contested}} and adding a vote in support. Voting will then continue in the usual way. If not contested within 24 hours, this nomination may be closed.

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Newport Beach Pier
or Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:The Vela supernova remnant imaged by the VLT Survey Telescope (eso2214a).tiff -- Basile Morin (talk) 09:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The colours are really nice and vibrant. However, I'm not sure whether 3:2 is the best aspect ratio here; there is a lot of negative space with lines (boat trails) leading away from the main subject, quite distracting IMO. Would like to see a different crop and reconsider. BigDom (talk) 06:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1961 Cooper T53 in a historic race at Donington Park in 2023.

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  • Here < is also a "winning work" (first prize) that would be straight rejected at FPC per COM:I.
  • "Chromatic problems also come from our standard lenses and are usually easily fixable in post-treatment. I made a try on Lightroom with this picture and got spectacular improvement. The result is of course available on request.
  • These stacking issues are fixable in my opinion (like were the others similarly supposed to be "impossible"). The goal is to promote the best images, here, not all the interesting photos. It may take some time of extra work, only.
  • Possible also to start with COM:QIC (easier) before FPC.
  • Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination

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Basilica of the Sacred Heart, Paris, France

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Albert Einstein sticks his tongue out for photographer Arthur Sasse after his 72nd birthday party on March 14, 1951

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Family : Fulgoridae (Planthoppers, Lanternflies)

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Unpublished variation of J.C. Leyendecker's famous Saturday Evening Post New Year's Baby, intended for use in 1943.

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View over The Lake (Central Park, New York City) to Building San Remo in autum 2024

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Chief Raoni Metuktire of the Kayapó people with an indigenous leader from other countries in Abya Ayalam (during the National Movement of Indigenous Peoples that takes place in the capital of Brazil).
  •  Support — Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support Very expressive, strong image. I wonder a bit about the noticeable noise. I would not mind it at all if this was a photo taken under difficult circumstances at high ISO speed, but acc. to the Exif data this photo was taken at ISO speed rating 180 with a Nikon D3200, therefore I would expect a very low level of noise. Strange. – Aristeas (talk) 20:16, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I agree with Aristeas, in my opinion it looks like the noise has been artificially added. Sometimes photographers do this to either simulate "analog grain" or to mask blur/shake. I took the liberty of creating a denoised version: SwissTransfer link If you and the community are fine with the result, please feel free to use the file for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 22:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Man and woman, I think. How do you guess these intentions by the author? I don't find them on the file page. These elements may be important. In the background but perhaps also on the subjects, with painting brushes. Without RAW we have no idea about how looks like the initial work -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for pointing that out. You're certainly right, it's probably definitely a man. I just suspected, as I did, that the author wanted to black out something he thought was unimportant. But without a raw file, I can only guess, not know. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 07:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understood. Thanks. In this case, I also regret that the resolution is only 3,016 × 2,121 pixels, about four times smaller than what the sensor of this camera is capable of. Probably downsized image, then, which is against COM:I -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks again to Basile, I hadn't checked the link at first. Sorry, of course Raoni Metuktire is a man. Too bad we couldn't rescue the nomination, because the motif is really impressive. -- Radomianin (talk) 12:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Milky way over the Hochkalter Massif and Lake Hintersee in Ramsau bei Berchtesgaden, Bavaria, Germany
No, it's supposed to be natural :-) And please, assume good faith, it's your work. You should know (better than us) what you've done in the sky -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You brought it up, so I'm interested in what you consider being "artificial" in the sky. Is it about emphasising the structure of the Milky Way (high/low or white/black)? I don't understand, assuming good faith, what you're getting at. A. Öztas (talk) 04:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. "Emphasising the structure". "High / low, white / black" -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will you also explain why you quote it like that or do you want me to guess? A. Öztas (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You guessed well and put words (your own words) on the issue mentioned above -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't think a painting brush was used, the milky way has brighter borders on each side that can naturally be captured by long exposure photos -- Giles Laurent (talk) 09:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Giles Laurent: , thanks for your comment. Please take a look at the 3 versions in the history. Resize them at the same size, and superimpose them, each separately. Then you realize very clearly that yes, a painting brush was used. Moreover, it's very possible also that the initial upload was already more or less heavily edited. In this version, the center of the sky is too dark, and certainly not faithful -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't know exactly what you mean by painting brush - it's the first time I've heard the term in this context - but if you mean masking, I've already commented on this with regard to the white and black levels. I'm just surprised at the astonishment, as this is a common process in image processing. Or are we talking at cross purposes? A. Öztas (talk) 13:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Painting brush" is the official name on many software editors, isn't it? Usually an icon with a "painting brush" 🖌. Now there's a 4th version uploaded. Not yet observed. But If you darken selectively some areas here and there, while the sky is supposed to be a giant uniform surface, it makes it fake -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for clarifying, what you mean. By your reasoning, wouldn't most photos then qualify as "fake", not only on FP? We can discuss this matter on my talk page, if you want. This would not only apply to (even slight) HDR images but also to those where, for example, a building is subtly emphasized. If you set the threshold for "fake" at any adjustment that doesn’t globally affect the entire image, then so be it — at least that's a clear position. As for the term "painting brush", as I mentioned earlier, I wasn't familiar with it in this context. In the software I use, this tool is called "draw mask". Either way, I hope we’ve now discussed this topic thoroughly. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion continues below and I'm also interested in talking with other participants, having different points of view -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just checked the picture on my computer (I was previously on my phone) and it seems you were right that a painting brush was used.
However I don't think the result is very different at first sight from adjusting curves/exposure adjustments, which is something a lot of people do and the result doesn't look unatural to me (especially if you compare it to something really unnatural like this). But perhaps the center of the milky way was darkened too much (it's not supposed to be that much darker) and perhaps the brighter part shouldn't have been brightened with a paiting brush but with a global exposure/contrast adjustment because looking at thumbnail we see the brushstrokes and comparing it to the previous version, the brighter parts changed shape and were extended, which in the end changed a bit the shape of the milky way and is something that shouldn't happen.
Also, there's one other new thing I've noted now, there's a strange change change of exposure in this zone that might be improved -- Giles Laurent (talk) 17:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed, both. --A. Öztas (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Abstain Painting brush removed. @Giles Laurent: there's a noticeable difference between the second-third-fourth and the fifth version, and in the previous ones, there was no reason to darken artificially some zones in the sky so as to create strong and unnatural contrasts. Thanks for pointing this out, and for confirming the manipulation was not only my subjective impression. The sky is supposed to be flat. So the normal processing in this case is not local touches but should be global, yes -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carved wooden door with a copper ring handle at Olimkhon palace. Bukhara, Uzbekistan.
  • Yes, and sharpness could be better too. I'm honestly not sure about this one. I made this downsample which is 8.5 megapixels and better but still corner sharpness isn't great. But the motif is really cool so unsure how to vote, will think about this one. Cmao20 (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hell Gate walking path

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Aerial view of the Vexier Chapel in Reifenberg

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Greater flamingos male and female in the Camargue during mating season

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Main courtyard of Bou Inania Madrasa, Fez, Marocco

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+ The author created the image to be viewed as you see it. It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer, make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors. If you don't see errors right away, then there are none. You can ruin any image in Photoshop, but the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop. Janeklass (talk) 04:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  What?! "make changes in Photoshop, and then find errors"? I would be the last person to do that. And it's very clear from the file page that you are the sole and only uploader. You're of course free to do what you like with your pictures, but for me it's a similar case to this one or that one nominated last week. Sorry to be allowed to review here... When I read Ikan's review below ("I do see details well"), I had the impression it was a mirror of my comment (now crossed out) above ("Some details look interesting"). I got curious and then noticed the stacking issues. Please fix these errors like in this nomination. By the way, where do you find that "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"? -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:13, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You downloaded the image to your computer, increased the light in Photoshop, and then you saw the errors. The "errors" you pointed out do not disturb or affect the image. I am very sorry, but I think your assessment is unfair and is not given because they somehow affect the photo, but because you just want to scold. Janeklass (talk) 05:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You darkened the image, not me ("background made darker" in your summary). And you made this change without notifying a (weak) supporter writing "Definitely too dark for me", nor other participants who could also find the image (really) too dark now. Photoshop helps to find potential issues like wrong embedded color profiles (which can make the appearance vary from a computer to another, example here). This was done to help you. It was a tool. But the stacking issues (now located) also appear in the current version -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:49, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You raised the light and only then did you see errors that were otherwise not visible. For me, they do not affect the image and the problem does not exist. If you add light, you can see all sorts of things. As an author, the light is set the way I want it and it is not intended to be changed by anyone else. Janeklass (talk) 06:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. You darkened the picture (for everyone, not only for me). Proof in the history of the file page and in the summary you left. Given the critics (here and elsewhere by other participants), it would have been more judicious to brighten the picture instead of the contrary. Otherwise it's like you want to hide the mistakes. You also hide the whole content in this blackness.
  2. No, my first impression was : "Some details look interesting at the bottom". But because it was dark, it could be a wrong impression. Confirmation (I mean denial of "interesting details") comes now, yes. Same as here. I think light should be adjusted and FS problems resolved -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:52, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your words " + After increasing the light on Photoshop, I also notice focus stacking errors. Image notes added". I'm referring to the fact that you didn't see the errors before you increased the light. So you amplified the errors yourself, which are otherwise not so visible and they don't affect the overall impression of the image. But okay, I added a little more light and I won't change this file any more Janeklass (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment If my eyes are good, there is no difference in the light between the first version and this one? And your words "It is not okay for the viewer to download the image to their computer"... and worse: "the author doesn't create the image so that someone can edit it in Photoshop." Apologies, but this idea "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none" sounds a bit clumsy, according to the ton of similar nominations where errors / stitching problems are detected in the middle or even at the end of the voting period. A bunch of examples available in the archives. Currently the focus stacking errors are still present. Thus I don't change my vote -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing an image to amplify small flaws that aren't actually visible is very strange behavior to me. Janeklass (talk) 09:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Very visible now, even in the darkness. And also at the top right.
  2. Could be fixed / uploaded by someone else (not necessarily you).
  3. Alternative could be proposed. At least for the FS issues. Then it's a democratic choice. Could be also delisted and replaced by a more accurate version later. If you change your mind, or if someone else improves your image.
  4. Like it or not, that's how it works, actually. And how divergent opinions offer chances to improve.
  5. It's a mistake to believe that the purpose of increasing the light was "to amplify flaws". Certainly anyone else would / will do the same as observer or re-user, because it's very dark, then trying to evaluate the content fairly and see it under more favorable conditions is useful and / or necessary. The FS flaws popped up at this moment, and were not expected. Most of the users here are happy to meet the opportunity to correct their own images -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am happy to correct mistakes when I see that the criticism is relevant. At this moment, I feel that the criticism has been overdone and criticized for the sake of criticizing. These "mistakes" are not visible in the picture and do not spoil the picture. Janeklass (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These mistakes have just been revealed a few hours ago. And first reaction, you darkened the image, which had the effect of making the situation worse, and lengthening the discussion for everyone. It would undoubtedly be wiser to fix the issues like here or there. See also this interesting case -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't darken the image because of your alleged "errors". I cropped the image and at the same time noticed lighter areas in the background and thought that the background would be better completely black. Janeklass (talk) 14:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... noticed something, too? For the record, you said "If you don't see errors right away, then there are none.". You changed the crop? You changed the light? Twice, already? Yes, things happen / appear in the light of a discussion, like in the light of a (well-exposed) photo -- Basile Morin (talk) 15:21, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can keep your opinion. I'll stick to my position and won't fix alleged errors that aren't actually visible and don't affect the image. Besides, this picture's value lies elsewhere for me (and for Wikipedia). What we actually see in the picture is much more important here - whether it ranks among the best is secondary. In my opinion, Wikipedia isn't Instagram, and I add pictures that have genuine informative value. Janeklass (talk) 03:35, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
🛑Stop it now. "You can keep your opinion" and other derogatory comments written above are against COM:CIVIL. All various and subjective opinions here are welcome and encouraged on this section, per the guidelines at COM:FPC "A well-written review helps participants (photographers, nominators and reviewers) improve their skills by providing insight into the strengths and weaknesses of a picture. Explain your reasoning, especially when opposing a candidate". You don't like criticisms, this does not give you permission to be disrespectful to those who don't share your view. You voted above, fine, we all respect your choice, did not contest anything. Do the same, please. Now enough. It's an open project. -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the author's position not important, or do you always have to agree with criticism? If so, I will try to improve myself in the future and will not engage in further discussion.
For now, this discussion is over for me. Janeklass (talk) 05:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very good. -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:18, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of the Sun by ESA Solar Orbiter

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  • The Sun in UV light of 17.4 nanometres, taken by Solar Orbiter's Extreme Ultraviolet Imager (EUI) instrument, assembled from multiple images taken on 22 March 2023.
    The Sun in UV light of 17.4 nanometres, taken by Solar Orbiter's Extreme Ultraviolet Imager (EUI) instrument, assembled from multiple images taken on 22 March 2023.
  • A magnetogram of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight direction of the magnetic field on the Sun's disc, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
    A magnetogram of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight direction of the magnetic field on the Sun's disc, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
  • The velocity map of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight speed and direction of movement of material at the Sun's visible surface, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
    The velocity map of the Sun that shows the line-of-sight speed and direction of movement of material at the Sun's visible surface, measured by the Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023.
  • The Sun Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023, at a wavelength of 617 nanometres.
    The Sun Polarimetric and Helioseismic Imager (PHI) onboard the Solar Orbiter spacecraft on 22 March 2023, at a wavelength of 617 nanometres.

 Info Hacker news thread on the pics --David Osipov (talk) 08:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Transfiguration Cathedral in Odesa. On July 23, 2023, the cathedral was severely damaged by a Russian missile attack

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Kyzylkup table mountain. Kyzylsai regional park, Mangystau District, Mangystau Region, Kazakhstan

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Woman with hat in red dress, North Beach SF
  •  Support Many thanks for the appreciation, Екатерина Борисова. The picture was a real snapshot, we were first in a record store and then, as I recall, in a store next door, which we left with the friendly woman in red. During our walk through SF, my camera was always ready for spontaneous snapshots. -- Radomianin (talk) 06:30, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Busy background, nothing special. Yann (talk) 08:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose per Yann --Uoaei1 (talk) 08:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support When we want to show people walking on a city street the background will usually be busy; somehow the variety of the city must be included – if the background consists just of windows reflecting the sky or a wall we would not get the feeling that we are in the downtown. The vanishing lines of the row of cars on the left and of the buildings on the right, which converge above the centre of the picture, bring order to the composition; the woman seems to be walking towards this vanishing point, her placement slightly to the left adds tension to the composition. This placement, the bright colours of her clothing and the out-of-focus background make her stand out clearly from the background. For me, this is a good example of an intense, orderly and yet dynamic composition in the middle of the variety of a city centre. – Aristeas (talk) 16:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Yeah I think it's great. The colours, the outfit, the sense of movement, all superb. Good street photography. Cmao20 (talk) 18:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Thi (talk) 15:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per Yann. -- Karelj (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuna Kasai of Japan at FIS Nordic Combined Continental Cup Eisenerz 2020.
 Abstain Interesting. It's not an answer to my question, though, right? -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, forgot about that question. That's one of the many wind flags: a grey metal post and a red stripe of fabric. Granada (talk) 06:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Thanks. I wonder if the image wouldn't be more striking vertical. And the position of the skier would be more accurate. However I understand the difficulty here to follow the trajectory and to keep the subject within the frame at the same time. --Basile Morin (talk) 06:50, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the vote! By vertical do you mean like e.g. this one? To be honest I find these quite boring. They are the easiest to take by just pointing your camera upwards to the ski jumper coming from the take off. This one is not the sharpest as it was also taken at the same event and marks the beginning of a panning shot following the athlete. The moment the athlete comes past me (like in the FPC) she is around 90km/h fast and just 2-3m away. If I only want to asure that the photo is sharp I do it like that example and set the exposure time to 1/1000s or less (depending on weather conditions). Granada (talk) 12:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I wrongly assumed the photo was tilted, but realize now that it's probably not. The other shot, even if "easier" is also very good. For the speed, yes, it makes sense. Still the background would appear more static / frozen than here -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, therefore we are discussing here. The FPC-shot was made at the steepest part of the ski jumping hill, a few meters above the so called critical point of the hill. The post of that wind flag is mounted perpendicular to the slope of the hill and the image is completely horizontally. If you want to shoot from there you have to walk the stairs up. Granada (talk) 07:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launch
Discussion about technical details
  • I wonder why Bill Ingalls (given that he is/was a professional photographer) did not pay more attention to details, both in the composition (which he could have checked calmly before the start) and in the post-processing (which is done later). We can accept the leaning verticals, but the cropped flowers at the bottom are unsatisfying (either there should be more of them in the frame or they should have been cut off completely), the CAs are obvious and (given the low resolution) quite prominent. And the whole image, which has been underexposed to preserve the highlights, should have been brightened in post-processing. Given the incredible expenditure necessary for space missions, one could expect a bit more care from the photographer, too. – Aristeas (talk) 10:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment I'm pretty sure this specific type of picture is taken remotely. The focal length is 16mm in full frame, it's unlikely a person would be allowed this close to a rocket launch. Chromatic aberration might have been corrected, I agree. I know what you mean about preservation of highlights and underexposure, but I think the key to this picture being "wow" are the dramatic steam clouds. To make them dramatic, you need the darker shadows within them. Even if you correct the levels to enhance the dark foreground with flowers, you might make the vapor cloud less dramatic and therefore the photo less "wow". Of course, it's possible to make a feathered selection of the grass/flowers area and correct it while preserving dramatic vapor, but I'm not sure it's allowed for journalistic type of photos from NASA. Tupungato (talk) 13:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment Of course I did not want to say that this is a bad photo; it has much “wow” and high educational value. I just stumbled over a certain disparity between the incredible expenditure and expense for such a space mission on the one hand and a certain lack of care for the details shown by the photographer on the other hand. – You are certainly right that this photo has been taken remotely; and I would also assume that the camera was set to continuous shooting (burst mode), so the photographer triggered remotely the start of the continuous series and this is just one photo selected from that series. That’s all fine. I just meant that whoever has placed the camera on the tripod (or whatever) before could have thought a little bit longer about the framing. You are also completely right that the underexposure is intentional and correct in order to get a good image of the dramatic steam clouds. I just think that whoever has processed the raw image file later could have spent a little bit more time to remove the CAs and to lift the exposure again, just to achieve a more realistic impression. It should not even be necessary to make a feathured selection of the dark parts; just increasing the exposure by e.g. 0.25 EV, reducing the highlights by 0.25 EV and increasing the brightness of the shadows by 0.5 EV or so would already improve the image without sacrificing the clouds or adulterating the realistic impression. No offence, I really appreciate your selection of this photo and (as said above) just stumbled about the details. – Aristeas (talk) 11:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Star trails over Newgrange Ireland

* Support --Ermell (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Also this one by "AstroAnthony" is clearly a fake. There might be many other manipulations by this uploader (I don't want to waste hours examining each with a magnifying glass). It is not worth risking another time-consuming delisting process after potential POTY qualification like the previous case. -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure, if the author could provide the RAWs I would be happy to reconsider, but I think it's fair to assume that images by this user may be photomontages, particularly if they look 'too good to be true', and to vote accordingly. Cmao20 (talk) 02:59, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Aegithalos caudatus (with feathers to pad the nest), Lodz (Poland) (js) 18.jpg

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Aegithalos caudatus (with feathers to pad the nest)
  • Follow-up  Comment Jerzy, this is really a lovely and wonderful photo, I (and other users) would really like to become it a Featured picture. We just think that the post-processing is not up to what your photo deserves. Modern tools allow to reduce the image noise greatly without sacrificing details (as old-styled noise removal did), therefore the new tools have rapidly become standard especially with wildlife photos. Just contact Poco a poco or e.g. Radomianin or me if you would appreciate a little help with this. Best, – Aristeas (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Aristeas for his engagement. The photo is too beautiful to let this nomination die. SwissTransfer link provided: This version is similar to Poco's (thanks for the edit), but in mine the colors are closer to the photographer's original. However, the degree of denoising and sharpness is similar to Poco's version. If you and the community find the edit acceptable, feel free to use it for an update. Best regards, -- Radomianin (talk) 11:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Will support Poco's version, but not this one. Cmao20 (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Jerzy Strzelecki Dear P .T. correctors of other people's photos: I must congratulate you on your effectiveness in warding off potential (+) voters. However, the next time an irresistible urge to correct you strikes, try to wait until the voting is over. I have over 8,000 images in Wikimedia, including some that have been used in dozens of Wikipedias. It's a shame that you chose to paste just the one I wanted to highlight - the friendly, slightly funny “Mustache”. And best leave the author's versions alone even if, in your opinion, they necessarily need improvement. This was supposed to be a bigger project [2]. However, a magpie or jay destroyed the nest with the young. The same thing with the vote on this photo was done by the enhancers. Jerzystrzelecki (talk) 13:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Hello Jerzy, I’m sorry but there seems to be a big misunderstanding. No offence, but your harsh comment deserves an open answer.
Please take a look at other nominations to understand better how this “Featured picture candidates” (FPC) page works. We do not first vote on a photo and discuss it later, as you seem to assume. We always discuss photos, often into details, and FPC regulars are used to propose improvements when they think a photo could be amended. This applies also and especially to wildlife photographs, and hints and suggestions about improving the post-processing are very common. This is neither derogatory nor impolite, on the contrary: when FPC voters suggest specific improvements, they (i.) confirm that your photo has potential and (ii.) want to help you to realize this potential better. This is actually a service for you. You have received a lot of praise for the photo and only completely constructive comments, two people have even edited the photo for you to help you – frankly, you should consider yourself lucky that you are being offered so much recognition and support.
You might wonder why people are so particular about the noise/sharpness level. That’s not arbitrary: we discuss this often, especially when it comes to wildlife photos, but often forget to explain this to newcomers. Wikimedia projects need especially sharp and noise-free photos for a special reason: our photos, and a fortiori Commons FPs, are not only viewed as a whole, but must also stand up to being cropped and have details extracted from them for articles, Wikibooks, etc.
If you have still doubts, ask other people who often nominate photos of animals (e.g. User:Charlesjsharp, User:Giles Laurent, User:Iifar, User:Poco a poco, User:Rhododendrites and many more): they will tell you that their photos are scrutinised and discussed just as closely, often even more closely, and usually without anyone offering to help them improve them. That was a particularly nice offer from our fellows to you.
Wikimedia Commons is not meant to be a site where people just brag about their photos and praise each other (like Flickr), but one where we work together, and there’s no better way to do that than by discussing how to improve images further. Getting on your high horse and insulting other users by comparing them to envious magpies or jays doesn’t help the poor little bird (for whom I have every sympathy), your beautiful photo, you or the project. – Aristeas (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely per Aristeas. Jerzystrzelecki, I had rather expected a "thank you" to those people you ironically call "enhancers" for dedicating their time to process and upload new versions (yes, improved ones) of your image. Your feedback is instead rude. If you cannot accept criticism to your work, you shouldn't nominate your photos to FP. Here we expect the highest quality and the wow effect. It is a bunch more than likes. Poco a poco (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
[responding to ping] Yes, as Aristeas says this isn't just a vote but a forum where people provide feedback and, at times, even improve each other's images. You are not obliged to accept this help, of course, but it is part of what, in my opinion, makes this a constructive forum. That said, there are particularities among the community here, because of its origin in an encyclopedia, that can be jarring for people used to sharing photos elsewhere -- horizontals/verticals, noise, chromatic aberration, filters/saturation, unconventional crops, unconventional composition, etc. can all result in a failed nomination. There are exceptions, of course, but they're rare. Here, Poco a poco offered to make this adjustment for you. It sounds like that gesture wasn't desired. As a result, this nomination may fail. I've been in such a situation, too, where folks have suggested a crop or edit that I fundamentally disagreed with, and thus my nomination failed. It's frustrating, but that's the way it works. Just know that, for many people, they want to help you to get an image promoted rather than oppose and say nothing. You have to decide if you want that help, but remember it comes from a good place. — Rhododendrites talk |  17:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Man dressed as the pagan god Veles at the traditional Rękawka festival in Kraków

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Abandoned Ford van by Gerritsen Creek, Brooklyn

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Abandoned Ford van by Gerritsen Creek, Brooklyn

File:Egyptian goose (Alopochen aegyptiaca) and goslings Burgerpark.jpg

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Egyptian goose (Alopochen aegyptiaca) and goslings
  • Thanks for your update and sorry for my confusion. It's the idea of ​​"juvenile" that I wanted to introduce and I was also thinking that you would easily find the relevant subcategory. But it's a different branch and you're more than expert :-) -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bukchon-ro 11-gil street with hanok houses at blue hour in Bukchon Hanok Village Seoul.jpg

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"Wait for me daddy":British Columbia Regiment, DCO, marching in New Westminster, 1940
Photographically the focus is wrong (and the crop tight at the left), it's a shame, but this image has its own story (and yes, also own article on en-wiki). It has become an iconic photograph. We should take this into account.
Finally, a reminder about the voting process. COM:FPC: The meaning of the image should be judged according to the cultural context of the image, not by the cultural context of the observer. An image "speaks" to people, and it has the capacity to evoke emotion such as tenderness, rage, rejection, happiness, sadness, etc. Good photographs are not limited to evoking pleasant sensations... -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 10 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Basile Morin (talk) 22:46, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Historical#1940-1949


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