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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Unconditional Love?.jpg
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Unconditional Love?.jpg
I don't think this was fair to delete this after circa one week when the only other person that had commented their opinion was explicitly that the image should be kept, of which I agree. Therefore, there was no consensus to delete this photo and the editor that commented upon the request provided good reasons why the image should be kept. Helper201 (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Missing permission
Hello, you have marked my File:Usative lyceum.jpg as having no permission. But that is not true, I took it from a site where all content is available under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license, which means I can "freely copy and distribute the material in any form or format". Please do not delete it. Дмитро Чугай (talk) 09:39, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- OK, I reviewed the license. If you have other similar cases, please add a {{Licensereview}} tag. Yann (talk) 11:02, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Burning men movie
Hello, the photo i upload has been deleted while there was rights to use it as you can see:https://twitter.com/JeremyWooding/status/1698762410499178600?s=20 Veganpurplefox (talk) 18:56, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Veganpurplefox: Please ask the copyright holder to send a permission for a free license. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. Yann (talk) 18:59, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
No valid reason for deletion, huh? Do you care to expand your closing statement? Jonteemil (talk) 18:59, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- These are plain simple letters. Calligraphy is not under a copyright in UK. Yann (talk) 19:30, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the logo, and other types of calligraphy, be judged by the same standards as COM:SIG United Kingdom which says: The level of originality required for copyright protection in the United Kingdom is very low, and it is easily arguable that personal signatures are entitled to copyright protection. Under United Kingdom law, a signature may be protectable as a graphic work (a type of artistic work). Artistic works are protected regardless of artistic merit.? Jonteemil (talk) 19:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: Signatures are not the same level of creativity than simple calligraphy. Each signature is different, that's the whole point of a signature. AFAIK Latin calligraphy is not under a copyright anywhere, contrary to Chinese calligraphy. The copyright in UK is for modified letters. Yann (talk) 10:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- But if the calligraphy is more complex than w:File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg, which we know is copyrightable, then the calligraphy too must be copyrightable, right? See for example w:File:CrownGate Shopping Centre logo.png which was transfered to Commons from Wikipedia but deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:CrownGate Shopping Centre logo.png. I think that logo is comparable to the Everton logo. See also more UK files uploaded to Commons but deleted because they might be above TOO. Jonteemil (talk) 21:34, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: Signatures are not the same level of creativity than simple calligraphy. Each signature is different, that's the whole point of a signature. AFAIK Latin calligraphy is not under a copyright anywhere, contrary to Chinese calligraphy. The copyright in UK is for modified letters. Yann (talk) 10:15, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the logo, and other types of calligraphy, be judged by the same standards as COM:SIG United Kingdom which says: The level of originality required for copyright protection in the United Kingdom is very low, and it is easily arguable that personal signatures are entitled to copyright protection. Under United Kingdom law, a signature may be protectable as a graphic work (a type of artistic work). Artistic works are protected regardless of artistic merit.? Jonteemil (talk) 19:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Please see User talk:ColombianCyclone
12 or more months ago you left a block warning if they did not cease their uploading behaviour. For a while they ceased. Now not. I wonder if you have a moment to give them your wisdom, please? 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 17:47, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for a week. Yann (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Eliminación de imagenes propias que afectan mi cuenta
Recientemente vi que varias imágenes que subí, que a su vez fueron creadas por mi mismo fueron eliminadas o han sido solicitada para su eliminación. Mi pregunta es ¿en qué afecta esas imágenes que en su mayoría son escudos de clubes de fútbol? no contienen nada como violencia, desnudos, etc. Esto me llevó tiempo tanto para crearlas como para subirlas. Si me pudieran dar una solución les agradecería mucho, desde ya muchas gracias. Ivan Zarate 23 (talk) 15:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Google Translate: I recently saw that several images that I uploaded, which were created by myself, have been removed or have been requested to be removed. My question is, how does it affect those images that are mostly soccer club shields? They do not contain anything like violence, nudity, etc. This took me time both to create and upload them. If you could give me a solution I would appreciate it very much, thank you very much in advance.
- @Ivan Zarate 23: The logos are under a copyright by the clubs. You need the permission from them before uploading the files on Commons, even if you recreate them yourself. See COM:DW. Are you the photographer of the pictures you uploaded? If yes, could you please upload the original images will EXIF data? Right now, they look like images copied from the Internet. Thanks, Yann (talk) 15:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Google Translate: Los logotipos están protegidos por derechos de autor de los clubes. Necesita su permiso antes de cargar los archivos en Commons, incluso si los recrea usted mismo. Consulte COM:DW. ¿Eres el fotógrafo de las fotos que subiste? En caso afirmativo, ¿podría cargar las imágenes originales con datos EXIF? Ahora mismo parecen imágenes copiadas de Internet. Gracias, Yann (talk) 15:35, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Si tienes razón y entiendo el tema de los derechos de autor de los clubes y que necesito su permiso, pero los escudos fueron creados por mí y no son los originales, es por eso que me gustaría saber si existe una chance de que no sean eliminados, ya que perjudica el trabajo y tiempo que puse a cada trabajo realizado. Muchas gracias por responder. Ivan Zarate 23 (talk) 20:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Google Translate: Yes you are right and I understand the issue of copyright of the clubs and that I need their permission, but the shields were created by me and are not the originals, that is why I would like to know if there is a chance that they will not be removed , since it damages the work and time I put into each job done. Thank you very much for answering.
- @Ivan Zarate 23: It depends of the logo. If it is complex enough, your work is a derivative work. If it is very simple, then {{PD-textlogo}} applies.
- File:Icon CAFI2.png is probably fine, as it is a derivative of an old logo, File:Escudo de Ferro.jpg. But File:Icon JUV.png doesn't look OK. There are identical copies on the Internet. Yann (talk) 20:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Trouble with a new commons file
Please help with the copyright of this file: File:Tatler (Society publication) - Captain. A. L. and Mrs Middleton - Page 34 - 4th January 1928.jpg
You will see in the "Summary, Source" section that the small pic has been taken from a January 1928 Tatler publication. Please get this file correct. You have been so helpful in the past. Please note - there should NOT be a dot (.) after the word "Captain" which is the name of the file Srbernadette (talk) 09:38, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Srbernadette: I fixed the license. Could you please add categories for the people? Thanks, Yann (talk) 09:45, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please remove the "fullstop" (.) after the word "Captain" which is the title of this commons file. To answer your question - the "categories for the people" are : Captain A.L. Middleton is a solicitor, from Leeds and educated at "Oxford University" and "Rugby School". Middleton was a Captain in the British Army and a member of the "Middleton family" which were members of "Society". i.e. - (British upper class). I hope this helps Srbernadette (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Srbernadette: I renamed the file. You can add the categories. Yann (talk) 10:00, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Please remove the "fullstop" (.) after the word "Captain" which is the title of this commons file. To answer your question - the "categories for the people" are : Captain A.L. Middleton is a solicitor, from Leeds and educated at "Oxford University" and "Rugby School". Middleton was a Captain in the British Army and a member of the "Middleton family" which were members of "Society". i.e. - (British upper class). I hope this helps Srbernadette (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
07:53 12 sep 2023 Yann discusión contribs. borró la página File:Logo MySQL.jpg
Hello, I don't understand why you delete this file. I say clear that the copyright tof this image there isn't my own. I put in the description: this file is www.mysql.org... I need to use this image. Acorletti (talk) 08:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Acorletti: If it is not your own, you are not allowed to publish it without a permission from the copyright holder. Yann (talk) 08:46, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't agree because all Mysql code is "Open source" (and this is stated in its official web site: www.mysql.org). But since you don't see it that way, I'll use the logo that "wikipedia" publishes: (the one that they don't delete...). Acorletti (talk) 13:30, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Acorletti: The code is under a free license, but the logo may not be. Yann (talk) 13:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I do not want to waste time, the logo is "Open Source" without any doubt, but if you do not believe it, do not make you problem, as I said, I have stopped using it and I am using the logo that is in "wikipedia", because there it is seen that they understand well the concept of "Open source". Best regards Acorletti (talk) 08:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Acorletti: When you upload some content, it is your responsibility to show that it is acceptable under Commons policies. You only provided a link to [1], where there is no evidence that the logo is under a free license. Specifically, there is a "© 2023 Oracle" mention at the bottom, and the Terms of Use, linked at the bottom, doesn't say anything about a free license for the logo. This is classified as "Materials", and conditions for reusing that is in section 3. You better don't make wild claims without being backed up by fact. Yann (talk) 12:38, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I do not want to waste time, the logo is "Open Source" without any doubt, but if you do not believe it, do not make you problem, as I said, I have stopped using it and I am using the logo that is in "wikipedia", because there it is seen that they understand well the concept of "Open source". Best regards Acorletti (talk) 08:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Acorletti: The code is under a free license, but the logo may not be. Yann (talk) 13:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't agree because all Mysql code is "Open source" (and this is stated in its official web site: www.mysql.org). But since you don't see it that way, I'll use the logo that "wikipedia" publishes: (the one that they don't delete...). Acorletti (talk) 13:30, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Improper image deletion
The image "0b77a14.jpg" that he deleted was created by a graphic designer for my website developed years ago with "Macromedia Flash". (https://web.archive.org/web/20160620140310/http://www.bitart.it/marcomeloni/index.html) Bainzu (talk) 07:50, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Bainzu: And where is there any evidence that it was published under a free license? Yann (talk) 13:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Commons Photographers User Group: Board Elections 2023
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Question
Hi, may I inquire exactly why File:Spice Girls live West MacLaren 1997.jpg was deleted? QuestFour (talk) 21:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- Photo manipulation of: https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.rQWqM-8mXmyPjPdcAa9oEwHaFC?pid=ImgDet&rs=1 Yann (talk) 21:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but the photo in the link is not showing up and I'm not familiar with photo manipulation, could you please elaborate? QuestFour (talk) 08:49, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
May ayim commons
Hi Yann
You have deleted a series of images that were uploaded like this one: May Ayim Award Schwarze Literatur Prose 03 Luc Degla Schwarzer Deutscher Internationaler Literaturpreis 2004 AFROTAK TV cyberNomads UNESCO.jpg Can you please explain why? The distribution under CC was enabled for each single one. Why is there a claim on copyright infingement? What needs to be done to enable these files to be on Commons or was this just a misunderstanding? May ayim commons (talk) 04:09, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @May ayim commons: These files are derivative works, and therefore copyright violations. They are also out of scope. Please read COM:L, COM:DW, and COM:SCOPE. Yann (talk) 08:12, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann Thank you for clarifying
- So now it is understandable why those images have been deleted carrying only text because they are out of scope.
- Does the following help? Or is there still a reason why these images cannot be here (except those that only carry text)?
- But what about file: May Ayim Award Schwarze Literatur Prose 03 Luc Degla Schwarzer Deutscher Internationaler Literaturpreis 2004 AFROTAK TV cyberNomads UNESCO.jpg
- Just to understand and to learn to do better: Are these files really derivative works? And if so why? Because they carry a foto inside?
- Well all parts of the file are for free usage.
- And does any file that is a dirivative qualify as copyright violations right away?
- Even if the upload states, who has the copyright to the file. And if this copright holder has also has the copyright to what wiki commons claims is the origional to the dirivative?
- The Fotos & the images all have been created in the context of political education with the means of visual culture. Of most works in this context 3 or 4 diferent remixes/images exist that have been created simultaneously. All have been made for free usage and distribution or remixes. May ayim commons (talk) 14:35, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Yann: Also a very specific question
- You deleted File:2002 Black Media Congress Berlin AFROTAK TV cyberNomads Soulpower cyberSpace & Selfempowerment Networks Goethe Institut Initiative Schwarze Deutsche BPB 1.jpg
- It was published by Adetoun Küppers-Adebisi und Michael Küppers-Adebisi for free usage and distribution so that the topic of inclusion would arrive at more attention by the mainstream. Copyright restrictions would have been contraproductive. May ayim commons (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion template in talk page
Dear Yann,
I had published {{Speedy delete}} in talk pages, because it was not parsed inside TimedText: namespace, but I requested the deletion of TimedText:Pink_noise.ogg.en.srt and TimedText:Pink_noise.ogg.fr.srt respectively. Can you process them, please? -- Pols12 (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Copyright violation issue
Please find the time to explain the Copyright Violation topic as I am eager to learn about it. By the way, you deleted several pictures stating that I did uploaded some pictures that were subject to copyright violation. As today, all the content uploaded are copyrighted by me and are thus my property. Kiilei (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Kiilei: You wrote "All files copyrighted by ARTEMA-CASALONGA". This is a bit different than yourself. In cases where the copyright is owned by an organization, we require a formal written permission by email (see COM:VRT). But more to the point, your files are probably out of scope. We don't accept selfies or personal images unless people are notable. Regards, Yann (talk) 07:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Indeed yes, I did copyrighted these files with Casalonga, as a copyrighted holder for these previous files, I am still the originator. Yes you're right, 90% of the files were out of scope and not relevant for the general public due to their lack of educational purpose.
- Thanks anyway for the reply
- Kiilei Elei Kiilei (talk) 17:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Edgar(d) Varèse in art
Hello Yann,
Considering that no picture of Edgar Varèse taken after 1923-1924 will be considered acceptable (although some exceptions exist, such as the {{PD-Van Vechten}} Public Domain model), would it be acceptable if I submitted representations of the composer done in my own hand(s), after photographs taken during his lifetime ?
It is clearly to be understood that :
- the portrait will not be a caricature, with no intention of making fun of anyone,
- the representation will be quite accurate, resembling the model as much as possible, with my limited abilities,
- the representation will show enough personal handicraft so it bears limited resemblance to original pictures or art (Man Ray did more than "take a picture" of Varèse, for instance) so there should be an accepted level of personality, in order to claim it as "my own work", covered by the {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} model. There is a fair number of recently renamed files (François Lopinot - Scriabine caricature.png, for instance) to clarify and protect these images better,
- the representation should be admitted on wikipedia, without being neeedlessly and maliciously attacked (this kind of proposed illustration was always done with good intentions, free and hopefully harming no one, persons or institutions),
- on a more personal note : These drawings, black & white or with colors, etc. may appear on wikipedia without my name being mentioned : I do not consider myself an artist worthy of note, and it hurts me a bit when I see my name in an article that could (and should) be read by anyone anywhere in the World. If anyone is curious about the work in question, the relevant fields of information will be available here.
I know that a few drawings like this (Skalkottas.png for instance, and it's a really good example) are sometimes accepted : this drawing should be better tagged on here, to be protected more accurately... What do you think ?
Best regards, Flopinot2012 (talk) 08:30, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Flopinot2012: Actually, File:Varèse à Santa Fé vers 1936.JPG might be OK, if you can show that it was first published in USA without a copyright notice, or without a renewal. Yann (talk) 08:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann: I may find the reference for that particular picture in my bibliography. It is quite possible that the picture is not credited (it was candidly taken in Santa Fe, before or after a concert when Varèse was depressed). It is not quite certain, however, that it was published in the United States at the time.
- The photographed picture of Varèse done by Man Ray in 1931 is, of course, quite different : it is a work of art and Man Ray is dead in 1976. I do not quite understand how pictures from Flickr are correctly credited on Commons, but some mysteries are meant to be beyond me ^_^
- Thank you for your answer : I will check and find out, then come back to you so we can decide what appropriate course of action to take.
- Best regards, Flopinot2012 (talk) 09:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Good evening, @Yann: I have done some fact-checking. The picture of "Edgar Varèse in Santa Fé around 1936" is recorded by Odile Vivier as "Archives Edgard Varèse remises à Fernand Ouellette". Fernand Ouellette is a Canadian writer, first biographer of the composer. I have a copy of the English-speaking edition of his book (first edition in France for Editions Seghers in 1966, English edition translated by Derek Coltman for Calder & Boyars in 1973) and... that picture is not in the album between pages 114 and 115...
- There is, however, the picture of Varèse in 1964. There are letters sent and received, more pictures (of his desk at the time of his Death, the front cover of Hyperprism in its original edition in 1924, etc.) The book has notes, biographical references and a discography but no photographic credits...
- This is just so accurate as I could get. It is quite possible that picture of Varèse in 1936 remained unpublished until the more recent biographers of Varèse (Odile Vivier, most recently Bruno Giner) have had access to this particular archive. How this relates to claiming it as Public Domain is still an open question, if you ask me. If the facts presented here are relevant to undelete the picture, it would be time well-spent on my part.
- Best regards, Flopinot2012 (talk) 19:09, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Flopinot2012: Thanks for the information. Any document published in USA before 1978 should have a copyright notice, otherwise it is in the public domain. Additionally, any document published in USA before 1964 should also have a copyright renewal, otherwise it is in the public domain. You can ask more questions on the copyright board, where other people may help you. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann: Thank you for your answer. Since the picture was not published in USA at the time, and was only published in France in 1987 when Odile Vivier published her biography of Varèse, with the picture mentioned as "Composer's archive given to his future biographer(s)", it is not covered by any copyright. Should we ask the board in order to eventually undelete the image ? Best regards, Flopinot2012 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Flopinot2012: Unfortunately, it is a bit more complicated than that. Even unpublished works are under a copyright in France for 25 years after a first publication. So it may be under PD-France, but copyright in USA remains uncertain. Yann (talk) 10:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann: Thank you for your answer. Since the picture was not published in USA at the time, and was only published in France in 1987 when Odile Vivier published her biography of Varèse, with the picture mentioned as "Composer's archive given to his future biographer(s)", it is not covered by any copyright. Should we ask the board in order to eventually undelete the image ? Best regards, Flopinot2012 (talk) 10:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Flopinot2012: Thanks for the information. Any document published in USA before 1978 should have a copyright notice, otherwise it is in the public domain. Additionally, any document published in USA before 1964 should also have a copyright renewal, otherwise it is in the public domain. You can ask more questions on the copyright board, where other people may help you. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi you removed my picture of a Tu-22M on fire after the attack on the Soltsy air base. The image was taken from the below link: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/tu-22-backfire-destroyed-in-drone-strike-deep-inside-russia. It listed the photo's copy right as "Uncredited". I would ask that you please undo the deletion of the picture. In all likelihood it was an image taken from a Russian serviceman who doesn't want to be identified, posted online and passed through several hands before it was posted on the The War Zone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjmclellan82 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 23 September 2023 (UTC) (UTC)
- @Jjmclellan82: "Uncredited" doesn't mean "out of copyright". It simply means that the copyright holder is not known. Yann (talk) 08:43, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello Yann,
On September 10th, you have closed the deletion discussion above, as Kept: no valid reason for deletion, as per my comment above. If the template needs tweaking, this can be done any time. I would like to ask for an explanation, for two reasons.
Firstly, you were actively involved in the discussion. Yours was the only explicit "keep" vote among a number of comments and delete votes. Closing a discussion in which one is actively involved should only be done carefully and with proper explanation. Secondly, your reasoning is peculiar. The best reason to keep the template (IMO) was the change made by User:HeinrichStuerzl a few days before your closure, explained in their comment from September 6th at the deletion discussion. They completely removed the material to which I had objected. I would like to know why you considered that less important than your own argument from days prior. Ignoring the "easier" argument in favour of your own looks to me like an attempt to make your argument appear more legitimate. I hope that wasn't your intention.
Thank you. Renerpho (talk) 01:12, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Also, I had to manually remove the "nominated for deletion" template from the page.[2] I guess you forgot to do it? Renerpho (talk) 01:19, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for removing the deletion notice.
- As I said in the DR, we have many such templates, and there have been quite a lot of discussion about them. I have one myself. Do you also want to delete it?
- There is no valid reason for deleting these templates, only a misunderstanding of what a free license requires and of Facebook (and similar social media) policies. Yann (talk) 09:58, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann: I have one myself. Do you also want to delete it? I don't know if you seriously want my opinion, but here you go. I've had a look at your license, to see how you're doing it. I wouldn't have proposed a change to it if I came across it in the wild. The difference is that yours isn't as generalising, and not worded as aggressively as the other one. So no, I don't want you to delete it. I would suggest though that you consider that not all of those "personal licenses" are created equal. Renerpho (talk) 19:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Well, you can propose a different wording when you think they need to be changed. Yann (talk) 20:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I'll keep that in mind. Renerpho (talk) 22:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Well, you can propose a different wording when you think they need to be changed. Yann (talk) 20:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yann: I have one myself. Do you also want to delete it? I don't know if you seriously want my opinion, but here you go. I've had a look at your license, to see how you're doing it. I wouldn't have proposed a change to it if I came across it in the wild. The difference is that yours isn't as generalising, and not worded as aggressively as the other one. So no, I don't want you to delete it. I would suggest though that you consider that not all of those "personal licenses" are created equal. Renerpho (talk) 19:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
There were several edit wars but in the end I understood and I fix the problem, in the current version I copied the 2019 information but kept the structured data. StomboyCarGeek (talk) 13:52, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Block of Someoneinsomeplace
I'm looking at the user's unblock request, and I'm having a bit of trouble identifying the masters/socks here. The reason given at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Someoneinsomeplace is that they're obviously not a new user based on their re-creation of Commons:Deletion requests/File:Photoshop-screenshot.JPG, which may be true, but we generally only block socks when they're used to mislead, deceive, disrupt, distort consensus or to evade blocks or other sanctions. I'm having a hard time determining the master, which would be helpful in establishing whether this was block evasion or if this was merely an IP editor who logged in for the first time.
Would you be willing to help point me in that direction? I'm a bit confused here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:43, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, While I think this file should be deleted, creating an account which main purpose is to file a DR without being identified is an abuse of Commons policies. Yann (talk) 07:42, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is it? Wouldn't that require them to have an account that's active on Commons elsewhere for it to be misuse of Commons policies? I can think of plenty of legitimate reasons why one might create an account to file a DR. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:06, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- Do you? Well, this is moot at this point, as the DR is closed, with a mention that the nominator is blocked as additional reason. Yann (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- The issue is that this is not a new user. This is an old user creating a new account to avoid being identified, and this is an abuse of Commons policies. It may or may not be possible to identify the main account with a CU request, as it is quite easy to escape identification if you know how checkuser requests works (I was myself a checkuser on Commons). I obviously won't give any details here. Yann (talk) 14:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps I'm just not seeing the tells. Very well.
- P.S. We could probably use another checkuser if you'd like to become one again. Commons:Checkusers/Statistics indicates to me that we've had a dropoff in CU activity. This might be fine if we've also had a dropoff in abuse that CU tools are useful for, but I'm a bit skeptical of that having occurred. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:28, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Is it? Wouldn't that require them to have an account that's active on Commons elsewhere for it to be misuse of Commons policies? I can think of plenty of legitimate reasons why one might create an account to file a DR. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:06, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Your speedy deletion
Hi there Yann. Isn't it usual to give a reason for speedy deletion eg this image. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:14, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Llywelyn2000: Speedy deletion was requested by BigDom because the file is corrupted. Is there any issue with that? Yann (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Not at all; just that the reason wasn't given as far as I could see. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:35, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
September 2023
Hi. Just to let you know that the map that you deleted has again been uploaded by the same editor under a different name. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 16:05, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done Deleted, user warned. Yann (talk) 16:13, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Please add the latest uploads to the deletion request Trade (talk) 21:47, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done User blocked from uploading files. Yann (talk) 11:13, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
File move
I made a spelling mistake in the file name, and added a move request. I wish to nominate the file at FPC. Could you please do me a favour and move the file, so that I may nominate the image? UnpetitproleX (Talk) 14:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- It seems this was done Richardkiwi. Yann (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
De Stijl (magazine)
Hello Yann, I have a question about File:De Stijl, volume 1, octobre 1917 - octobre 1918.djvu. It contains one single volume (of a total of ten volumes) of the Dutch magazine De Stijl. The editor is Theo van Doesburg, who died in 1931. The publisher is a company called X. Harms Tiepen in Delft, the Netherlands. This work is a collective work and contains articles and illustrations by numerous people (both PD authors and non-PD authors). But who is (or was) the copyrightholder? Is it the editor (the magazine being a collective work) or should we look at the contribution of each writer and/or illustrator to establish its copyright status? Thanks, Vincent Steenberg (talk) 16:30, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Vincent Steenberg: Hmm. The definition of collective work varies from country to country, but a simple rule is: can the work of each author be identified? If no, then it is a collective work. Of course, it is quite often more compicated than that. In many newspapers, some articles are signed, and some aren't. If it is a collective work, the copyright rests with the publisher. Yann (talk) 16:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- The vast majority of the articles and illustrations are signed or captioned with the name of the author. Some articles, for example articles about forthcoming issues, incoming books, etc., are not signed, but they are most likely by the editor. So we have quite a good picture about who wrote what. Vincent Steenberg (talk) 16:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Vincent Steenberg: Then look for the authors' death date. Yann (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks. Could you specify this? Is this described anywhere? Vincent Steenberg (talk) 17:39, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Vincent Steenberg: Then look for the authors' death date. Yann (talk) 16:58, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
- The vast majority of the articles and illustrations are signed or captioned with the name of the author. Some articles, for example articles about forthcoming issues, incoming books, etc., are not signed, but they are most likely by the editor. So we have quite a good picture about who wrote what. Vincent Steenberg (talk) 16:46, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Doclys👨⚕️👩⚕️ 🩺 • 💉 11:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
COM:AN/B
--Juan Villalobos (talk) 11:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Request
Hello Yann. Please delete this file. I will upload a new photo for Ibad Huseynov, with this name. Thank u. Gadir (talk) 03:28, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Gadir: What's the rationale for deletion? We accept deletions without a reason for one week after upload, but this is way past this time. Yann (talk) 19:05, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- I told you already, I will upload photo for encyclopedic person with this name. Also, shortly, can be delete per F10. Gadir (talk) 05:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done Yann (talk) 10:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- I told you already, I will upload photo for encyclopedic person with this name. Also, shortly, can be delete per F10. Gadir (talk) 05:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Doclys👨⚕️👩⚕️ 🩺 • 💉 05:46, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Deletion of Category:Shamsuddin Azeemi
Hello Yann, since you deleted a category related to Shamsuddin Azeemi, I was wondering why you act to fast. thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 11:57, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Also Category:Muhammad Azeem Barkhiya Thanks. Lotje (talk) 12:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Category:Shamsuddin Azeemi was empty. I undeleted it. Category:Muhammad Azeem Barkhiya didn't exist. I created it. Yann (talk) 15:32, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Yann. Lotje (talk) 15:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Lotje: Category:Shamsuddin Azeemi was empty. I undeleted it. Category:Muhammad Azeem Barkhiya didn't exist. I created it. Yann (talk) 15:32, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Question regarding upload video to commons
Hello Yann, I am keeping message to you as you earlier suggested me usage of ".webm" to upload video on Commons (and I remember you from vital article project on Enwiki BTW:) )
I have question to you. What can I do if I am not able to upload video via ".webm"? I have on my mind video which is 132 MB and slightly over one minute. Unfortunately, I could not upload it to Commons so far. Earlier I successfully uploaded very short video (few seconds) and I am thankful you for an advice but this time something went wrong, not sure what, and I do not know which various attempts I can try to upload longer video. What can I do to find solution? Regards. 19:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC) Dawid2009 (talk) 19:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Dawid2009: video2commons was broken, and is back again. Yann (talk) 19:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
"You may be blocked soon" - NorthTension
Hi, so I finally got around to looking at the talk pageCommons:Deletion requests/File:Dr Edward wiki page.pdf messages you sent me, were these all automated or was the message claiming I was uploading files despite requests not to do so, but the only time I got any kind of notification about this was that post alongside 13 other messages.
I uploaded these on behalf of my friend who has since made his own account but is still waiting on confirmation of his COM:CONSENT email for a month now. NorthTension (talk) 08:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Misspelling in sheet name
Hi Yann, at File:1223 Échallens.jpg, I fixed the sheet name (compare with the list of sheets and the name as written on the map itself). The spelling appears to differ from the way it would be written if the place was in France. Can you rename the file accordingly? I noticed you removed my request. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:44, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: No, the proper spelling is Échallens. Yann (talk) 09:46, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I just noticed your comment on my talk page. I'd think Office fédéral de topographie is the better source for spelling of place names in Switzerland than English Wikipedia. "E/É" is a known difference of spelllings between Suisse and France. In any case, aren't the files named in the way Swisstopo names them? Enhancing999 (talk) 09:50, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: Accents are often omitted on capitals, and Wikipedia is a valid reference here. I will rename the category. Yann (talk) 09:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- It's a place name and you need to provide a valid reference if you want to differ from the reference I provided. Wikipedia can't be a reference unless it provides them. Place names in Switzerland are generally written without accents on capitals. Anything else would be an exonym. Thus, please don't proliferate this further. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: "Place names in Switzerland are generally written without accents on capitals." Where did you get that? You request a reference, but you make while claims without any. Yann (talk) 09:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- See "Echallens" on File:1223 Échallens.jpg or any other on Swisstopo maps. Enhancing999 (talk) 10:01, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: You need to be consistent. Zürich is spelled with a umlaut, not Zurich, so Échallens needs an accent. Yann (talk) 10:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- There is no accent placed by French people on the capital "Z".
- Swisstopo knows about accents on capital letters for place names in France, such as "Évian", see File:1263_Évian.jpg.
- Unless we can find a reference for your planned renames, we need to stick with "Echallens". Enhancing999 (talk) 10:15, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I could find as many references for Échallens or Echallens, and French Wikipedia says that both spelling exist, yet the article is titled with an accent. I disgree that Wikipedia is not a valid reference. It is certainly more valid than most other sources. Yann (talk) 10:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia can obviously make their own editorial choices, based on references they prefer. It's unclear how they reference it though. Swisstopo writes "Echallens", "Évian" and "Zürich" and I don't see why we'd differ from that.
- Most bibliographies wouldn't spell book titles differently because Paris wouldn't write it the same way. Oddly, French Wikipedia does that. Enhancing999 (talk) 11:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you talk about Paris. This is related to language, not the country. This issue is often encountered on the French Wikisource, where book titles don't write the accents on capitals, often due to technical shortcomings of Typesetting. Yet proper spelling requires an accent on capitals. With digital typesetting, there is no reason to omit the accents. Yann (talk) 11:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- According to your commment, French Wikipedia says that both spellings exist, but they don't seem to follow thorough on that conclusion and replace one with the other in their bibliography.
- Swisstopo is clearly aware of that and probably also the people from Echallens, yet they spelled it differently than people would in Paris. So I'd rather avoid the exonym and leave it with the official spellings "Echallens", "Évian" and "Zürich". Enhancing999 (talk) 11:48, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I don't understand why you talk about Paris. This is related to language, not the country. This issue is often encountered on the French Wikisource, where book titles don't write the accents on capitals, often due to technical shortcomings of Typesetting. Yet proper spelling requires an accent on capitals. With digital typesetting, there is no reason to omit the accents. Yann (talk) 11:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I could find as many references for Échallens or Echallens, and French Wikipedia says that both spelling exist, yet the article is titled with an accent. I disgree that Wikipedia is not a valid reference. It is certainly more valid than most other sources. Yann (talk) 10:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: You need to be consistent. Zürich is spelled with a umlaut, not Zurich, so Échallens needs an accent. Yann (talk) 10:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- See "Echallens" on File:1223 Échallens.jpg or any other on Swisstopo maps. Enhancing999 (talk) 10:01, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: "Place names in Switzerland are generally written without accents on capitals." Where did you get that? You request a reference, but you make while claims without any. Yann (talk) 09:59, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- It's a place name and you need to provide a valid reference if you want to differ from the reference I provided. Wikipedia can't be a reference unless it provides them. Place names in Switzerland are generally written without accents on capitals. Anything else would be an exonym. Thus, please don't proliferate this further. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: Accents are often omitted on capitals, and Wikipedia is a valid reference here. I will rename the category. Yann (talk) 09:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- I just noticed your comment on my talk page. I'd think Office fédéral de topographie is the better source for spelling of place names in Switzerland than English Wikipedia. "E/É" is a known difference of spelllings between Suisse and France. In any case, aren't the files named in the way Swisstopo names them? Enhancing999 (talk) 09:50, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
File:JamyJamess2018.jpg
Hi. You recently deleted File:JamyJamess2018.jpg with the reason as "per COM:SPEEDY". The file seems to have been tagged as a copyvio by User:Doclys, who only linked to a Google image search, most results of which were Wikipedia scrapers. Is there any clear evidence as to where the image originated from? --Paul_012 (talk) 14:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, converted to a regular DR. Yann (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
File:Dr Edward wiki page.pdf
Hi. So, Deletion Notification Bot 2 didn't come along soon enough to notify the uploader, as it usually does. You might have just fixed that. Opening this dr instead and then immediately close it yourself seems a bit bureaucratic, though. So, what exactly was your point? Wutsje 17:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Wutsje: Uploader was not informed, which is mandatory for all deletion requests. Converting to a regular DR is the easier way to to do that. Otherwise I would need hours to delete all files. Yann (talk) 19:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Suppresion d'une image de carte postale
Bonjour, c'est à propos de la suppression du fichier WikiCommons d'une carte postal sur le baptême d'une locomotive : File:Bapthême d'une locomotive de type BB 15000, au blason de la ville de Livry-Gargan.jpg, sous prétexte qu'elle présentait une supposé "infraction" aux droits d'auteurs alors qu'en réalité cette image était tout à fait libre de droit, aucune violation de droit d'auteur n'a été commise, à l'instar de toutes les cartes postales anciennes qui circulent sur Wikipédia pour l'illustration d'articles, ce type d'image circule de partout sur internet sans qu'il est possible de trouver le véritable site original, rien avoir avec une photo ou un document numérique personnel, les cartes postales anciennes sont dépourvus de droits d'auteurs en raison de leurs ancienneté. Merci d'annuler cette suppression et de rétablir le fichier s'il vous plaît. Cordialement. Capella RR4 (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Capella RR4: Désolé, mais une carte postale (ou tout autre document) de 1987 n'est pas dans le domaine public en France (libre de droits, ça ne veut rien dire). Si l'auteur est anonyme, ce sera dans le domaine public le 1er janvier 2058, 70 ans après la publication. Sinon ce sera 70 ans après la mort de l'auteur. Merci de lire et respecter COM:France. Yann (talk) 21:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Half-tile(s)
Where did you get the name "Nauders" for 2180 ? In one list, I found it as "Samnaun Ost". Apparently they name partial tiles according to the one they expand in the print version and the direction in German: i.e. "Samnaun" towards "Ost" (East). On the index I added a few others I found (some without names though).
When adding 2180 to a grid table, I found it hard to position, given the format. I wonder if it isn't preferable to keep them with the blank areas they come with. Personally, I always crop of borders, but here it might be worth keeping it. Enhancing999 (talk) 08:57, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: There was no name for 2180, so I choose one among the most probable ones, but thanks for renaming if you found the proper name.
- I cropped it, as I think people will think that the file is broken if not cropped. Yann (talk) 11:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, there can be a lot of blank space around it (e.g. Simplon Ost or Zermatt Süd). Maybe we should have both versions. To assemble the tiles, it's easier when they are in the standard format, possibly with a transparent background for the empty parts. How shall we name them? Enhancing999 (talk) 11:58, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- We can use File:2180_Nauders.jpg and File:2180_Nauders (cropped).jpg, or File:2180_Nauders.jpg and File:2180_Nauders (full).jpg. Yann (talk) 12:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'd use "2180 Samnaun Ost.jpg" for one and "(full)", "(tile)", "(cropped)" or "(map)" in the other.
- None is really ideal. The name chosen for the full tile should be in Template:Sheets Swisstopo 25000. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:31, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I guess we could also use "2180 Samnaun Ost.jpg" for the full tile and "2180 Nauders.jpg" or "Nauders (Swisstopo Map Raster 25 sheet 2180).jpg" for the crop (Nauders and not Samnaun actually being shown in the title). Enhancing999 (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: OK, as you like. Yann (talk) 12:44, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- I guess we could also use "2180 Samnaun Ost.jpg" for the full tile and "2180 Nauders.jpg" or "Nauders (Swisstopo Map Raster 25 sheet 2180).jpg" for the crop (Nauders and not Samnaun actually being shown in the title). Enhancing999 (talk) 12:42, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- We can use File:2180_Nauders.jpg and File:2180_Nauders (cropped).jpg, or File:2180_Nauders.jpg and File:2180_Nauders (full).jpg. Yann (talk) 12:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, there can be a lot of blank space around it (e.g. Simplon Ost or Zermatt Süd). Maybe we should have both versions. To assemble the tiles, it's easier when they are in the standard format, possibly with a transparent background for the empty parts. How shall we name them? Enhancing999 (talk) 11:58, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Category renaming
Please initiate a proper discussion if you want to change the name of a category. Merely adding rename requests to the bot isn't appropriate when you are aware that the change is disputed. Enhancing999 (talk) 11:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: As I said, we usually adopt the spelling used in Wikipedia, unless there is a consensus saying otherwise. Yann (talk) 11:48, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- There seems to be divergence between Wikipedias. In Wikimedia projects, we generally expect contributors to form a consensus before we want to implement a change. Please do so too. If all you can provide is a blog entry to support your position, I find this a bit light, especially as you appear to upload works of Swiss topography. Enhancing999 (talk) 11:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
File:Acquaviva d'Aragona stemma.svg
Why did you delete the coat of arms I had just uploaded? It didn't violate any rules.--Unochepassava94 (talk) 13:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Unochepassava94: The lion comes from wappenwiki, website which creates and publishes designs under cc-by-NC-SA. This license is not compatible with commons' terms. Yann (talk) 13:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
October 2023
Hello Yann, I would like to request a reevaluation of the deletion of File:27th Session of All India Muslim Personal Law Board.jpg. Could you kindly review the file again to confirm whether it was deleted appropriately? I uploaded this file with a compatible license for Wikimedia Commons. Could you please provide me with the source link? I need to verify whether it complies with the copyright policy. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you.Owais Al Qarni (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, undeleted. The publication on Twitter was one day earlier, so a proper DR is probably better. Yann (talk) 17:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
File:General Yahya Khan in 1966.jpg
@Yann: , I have added a renaming request to the File:General Yahya Khan in 1966.jpg, as there is no evidence in the given reference of the photo that it was captured or published in 1966, therefore the word 'circa' should be added to the name of this file and also the photo is a portrait of the person, so the word 'portrait' should also be added in the name. Hamwal (talk) 11:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
How is the image not eligible for G4? This logo was previously deleted by the linked discussion (see the two files under "New logo"). Regards, IceWelder [✉] 15:25, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is PD-textlogo and in use, so certainly not eligible for speedy deletion. And I don't see any valid reason for deletion either. Yann (talk) 16:22, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- Could you comment in respect to G4 specifically? The discussion was raised (and therefore closed) on grounds that all versions of the logo exceed Sweden's TOO. The fourth TOO example is perhaps the best comparison. IceWelder [✉] 19:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- There is no reference for TOO in the linked DR, and it is more simple than the examples there, specially File:A6 logo.png. Yann (talk) 00:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if we're reading the same discussion, but it says: "I start this DR to ask if these two versions of Mojangs logo pass COM:TOO.", which ended in their deletion. If you think this was a mistake, please restore the vastly superior File:Mojang Studios Logo.svg and delete the low-quality JPEG in its favour. IceWelder [✉] 06:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, I requested undeletion on COM:UDR. Yann (talk) 12:44, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if we're reading the same discussion, but it says: "I start this DR to ask if these two versions of Mojangs logo pass COM:TOO.", which ended in their deletion. If you think this was a mistake, please restore the vastly superior File:Mojang Studios Logo.svg and delete the low-quality JPEG in its favour. IceWelder [✉] 06:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- There is no reference for TOO in the linked DR, and it is more simple than the examples there, specially File:A6 logo.png. Yann (talk) 00:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Could you comment in respect to G4 specifically? The discussion was raised (and therefore closed) on grounds that all versions of the logo exceed Sweden's TOO. The fourth TOO example is perhaps the best comparison. IceWelder [✉] 19:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
FlorinCB
Hello Yann. If You can undelete this file is a draw over the 19 century cartoon made by a high-school professor from United States 100% made as a SVG drawing with InkScape and no bitmap in the background to break any copyright. Thank You. --FlorinCB (talk) 14:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @FlorinCB: Hi,
- There are several issues here. First we need a permission from the person who drew this, as it is certainly complex enough to get a copyright.
- Secondly, is the source available online? As mentioned in the speedy deletion request, “This is a copy, with minor changes, of an image on the website of the Biblical Archaeology Society, as can be seen at [3] That website's copyright notice, as [4], says ‘These pages and their content are presented for the personal and noncommercial use of our readers. The contents may not be copied, downloaded, broadcast, stored (in any medium), transmitted, shown or played in public, adapted or changed in any way, except for personal and educational uses, or as otherwise consistent with fair use provisions of US Copyright Law.’” Yann (talk) 14:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Merdeka 118 LED testing
The image is "Merdeka 118 LED testing" is non copyright until the copyright holder says something, judging by the owner https://www.youtube.com/@Assadmalaysiapk, I do not think he doesn't mind others using his image/video, so you cannot delete any image/video without information about the copyright Anasnajib (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Anasnajib: Hi,
- It doesn't work that way. Everything is under a copyright by default, and you have to prove that the license is acceptable for Commons. In addition, you didn't provide a license here. Yann (talk) 21:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Could you license review this Bollywood Hungama file? Abzeronow (talk) 18:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- This was done in August. Yann (talk) 21:24, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, thanks, I must have missed that. Abzeronow (talk) 15:33, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Can you please explain how this meets COM:SPEEDY? - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 19:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, This was an empty page. The file was moved to File:Flag of Canada (WFB 2004).gif. Yann (talk) 21:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Which was where it was three days ago. It's used in an edit-protected template on enwiki, so I'm praying no one decides to move it again. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 22:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Was doing maintenance work, I came across this file. Would this 1924 newspaper from Marseille be considered a collective work under French law? Abzeronow (talk) 18:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, OK for PD-France. Yann (talk) 20:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Soviet file
I only added it for deletion because it's out of date. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Supranational_PostSoviet_Bodies_RU.png HelpfulHens (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- @HelpfulHens: We usually keep old works. Beside 1. Do not remove information. 2. If you want, you can request a regular deletion, but it is not eligible for speedy deletion. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- How do I request regular deletion? HelpfulHens (talk) 15:00, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- I accidentally made an edit using my IP address. I am so sorry. I undid it and made it using my account. HelpfulHens (talk) 18:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Photographs by William Blake
Why are:
- File:Portrait of W Wells Bladen - Photographed by William Blake.jpg
- File:Portrait of Alexander Scrivener - Photographed by William Blake.jpg
and derived files not eligible for speedy deletion, when I nominated them minutes after I uploaded them? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: I thought that was an mistake.
These are perfectly fine on Commons.Or is there anything I didn't understand? You said "Undelete in 2028". Aren't these in the public domain? Yann (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)- OK, I understand. I was confuse about who is this William Blake. Now deleted. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
I am thinking this is too simple to attract an architect's copyright in the structure shown but wanted a second opinion.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, right. Only a gate with a roof. Yann (talk) 08:22, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
3 maps need updating
It says what needs updating under them. I can't edit SVG files. But you are the expert on this.
- File:Limited_Recognition_States.svg
- File:Rail_gauge_world.svg
- File:Supranational_PostSoviet_Bodies-en.svg HelpfulHens (talk) 20:31, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- @HelpfulHens: No, I don't know much about SVG. You should ask on Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop. Yann (talk) 08:54, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Question
Good afternoon, one question regarding this decision. Why have you kept this pic knowing that it it strikingly does not meet the PD-Polish criteria (date of publication in print)? The caption on Facebook clearly states "kadr z filmu", which in Polish means "footage from the movie". Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 16:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Boston9: Hi,
- We assume that old documents were published at the time of creation, unless there is evidence to the contrary, i.e. that the image never left the photographer's custody and was given to a private archive. Yann (talk) 19:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
hello i have all the right from the owner to use it.
I have all rights to edit and upload images and content of tusharr khanna Hussainrani (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Hussainrani: OK, but you have to prove it. See COM:VRT for the procedure. Beside you can't release a file under a free license if you are not the copyright holder. Yann (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Prime containers
I noticed you reverted my CSD. Did you happen to read the link I included in justification, which is: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Packaging?
This is also compelling: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Threshold_of_originality and the bottle on the far unambiguously meets the threshold. So, while the Flickr img itself is tagged public domain, someone taking a picture of a copyrighted material, then releasing the photo as public domain don't release it into the public domain, because the photographer doesn't own the copyright to the copyrighted item photographed. Graywalls (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Graywalls: Hi,
- Issues about copyright for packaging are not eligible for speedy deletion. A regular deletion is needed, as there are several factors which decide the issue: location, complexity, etc. In addition, several requests were denied because, even if the design is above threshold of originality, a picture of the whole object is OK. See Commons:Deletion requests/Pokemon Jet as the most obvious example. Yann (talk) 16:23, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Possible F10 violations being used to vandalize multiple-language Wikipedia articles
Hi Yann. Would you mind taking a look at File:Get Up the Milk Tea.jpg? This file was being added to multiple English Wikipedia articles by IP accounts (which have since been blocked on English Wikipedia for vandalism) . Since the file seems to have no apparent encyclopedic value that I could see, I tagged it for speedy deletion per COM:CSD#F10. It looks like one of the blocked English Wikipedia IPs, however, is now using IP 2001:E68:540A:34F7:E965:BA47:DB9E:AA5 to remove the speedy deletion template and use the file for image vandalism in some non-English Wikipedia articles. The file appears to have zero connection to any of the articles it's being added to and looks like it's just someone screwing around. There's another Commons file (File:Inspirasi.jpg) uploaded by the same uploader that appears to be being used by IP accounts in the same way. Are these files eligible for F10 deletion? If not, please advise as to what is the best thing to do here. Thanks. -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done I blocked the account, and deleted both files. These have clearly no educational use, and were added to random articles. Yann (talk) 16:28, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking a look a these photos. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Mass renaming of filles
Hi Yann,
I hope you are doing well.
I have a few questions for you.
Is it possible to rename all the files from the category Projekat Spomenici Eparhije raško-prizrenske u digitalnom prostoru at once? The names of the files are not descriptive enough, and can't be searched easily, and therefore they should be changed. If the first solution is not possible, is there a way for those files to be deleted, so they can be uploaded again with appropriate names?
Thank you for your attention regarding this matter. Best, Nevena Rudinac (talk) 11:59, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Mass deletion of files
Hey Yann, it's DualSkream. Now, I want to talk to you about a number of files you deleted that I posted. I was putting up pictures of celebrities that didn't have them on their infoboxes. I started with F1 Academy drivers, but I found out today that you removed them. I'm not sure what's going on and what I did wrong. But I want to know what happened, because I spent a while getting those pictures together and I would like to put them back again. DualSkream (talk) 20:26, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- @DualSkream: Hi,
- Where did you find the pictures? Do you have the permission from the copyright holder for a free license? It seems the pictures were copied from elsewhere. Yann (talk) 08:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Request to elaborate on deletion close
Hello Yann. Thanks for taking the time to close Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pokémon GO (28653034981).jpg. I was wondering if you could elaborate (on the deletion page) why you believe this is not a copyright violation. Is it de minimis? Is it not covered by COM:CHAR for some reason? Since your closing statement doesn't address the copyright infringement claim or any of the points brought up in the discussion, it's impossible to know whether I should nominate similar COM:CHAR images or not. Thanks. Nosferattus (talk) 22:39, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, There are quite a number in this series (soft porn with some art), and all DRs about them were closed as kept. Specifically about the character, see Commons:Deletion requests/Pokemon Jet and many related DRs. Yann (talk) 10:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
- I looked at 10 of the previous Geekography deletion requests and they all were exclusively about scope. None mentioned copyright issues. So I don't think those DRs are relevant. The Pokemon Jet case was evaluated as de minimis. If you believe this image is also de minimis, could you add a note to the DR stating that? Thanks. Nosferattus (talk) 00:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Getting message about being blocked.
Hi @Yann I am getting message that I may being blocked. The message says that was my last warning. I am little bit worried. Need your suggestion. Thanks. Jnanaranjan Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) talk 07:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Jnanaranjan sahu: Hi,
- Do not upload pictures not taken by you, or you will get blocked. If you need help, please ask me, on Help desk, or on copyright-issues board. Thanks, Yann (talk) 09:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Request for a help
Yann Sir,
Kindly can you help me in wikimedia. I need a help from a wikipedian. I do not know about wikimedia much. So, I need a help from a well knowing wikimedian. Could you please help me. It would be very helpful. Please help me.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Rishad Talukdar (talk) 12:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Rishad Talukdar: What do you need help for? I see that you already requested help from several people. Did you follow the advices received? Yann (talk) 13:09, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- yes,I am a mobile user and I don't know much features about wikimedia.When I asked Wikimedia volunteers they are busy in there personal life so they cannot help me in my work but some of them helped me.But the main work is not done yet, that work remains. Those to whom I asked for help, they helped a little and did not help. They are volunteers so maybe they don't care about me. But I saw you play an important role in Wikimedia and you know everything about Wikimedia, so I asked you for help. Please don't leave my work like others, make it a little harder. Rishad Talukdar (talk) 13:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Rishad Talukdar: I can't help you if you don't say what you need help for? Yann (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yann Sir,
- Okay, Now I am telling you the problems should be solved serial by serial-
- 1. Commons Infobox:
- Upload this image BUSSSCR Front View in this infobox- Bir Uttam Shaheed Samad School & College
- 2. Article translation:
- There is a bangla language wikipedia article. I need a english wikipedia article of it. I have the translation of it. But I cannot create a article in english wikipedia because I am banned. If you can create an article in english wikipedia then I will give you the detail's of the article and the translation also after your reply.
- 3.Open Street Map:
- I mistakenly added multiple locations to the map under one organization name. But I couldn't delete them. If you can please delete those locations and re-add a location in the company name. Create an open street map way id. Make it so that the map can be used on Wikipedia in any language. Please reply if you can.
- Yann Sir,
- Kindly solve this problems.
- -Thank you Rishad Talukdar (talk) 15:48, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Rishad Talukdar: Hi,
- I won't help you here, as you created a sockpuppet. Only use one account. If you are banned on the English Wikipedia, get unbanned there first. Yann (talk) 15:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- FYI, I think this user is also linked to account named "Rishad 57pymr" (contribs), although 57pymr has not done anything abusive yet. 痛Designism (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done Blocked. If blocked, one shouldn't create a new account to circumvent the block. Beside Rishad Talukdar is also globally locked. Yann (talk) 11:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- FYI, I think this user is also linked to account named "Rishad 57pymr" (contribs), although 57pymr has not done anything abusive yet. 痛Designism (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Rishad Talukdar: I can't help you if you don't say what you need help for? Yann (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- yes,I am a mobile user and I don't know much features about wikimedia.When I asked Wikimedia volunteers they are busy in there personal life so they cannot help me in my work but some of them helped me.But the main work is not done yet, that work remains. Those to whom I asked for help, they helped a little and did not help. They are volunteers so maybe they don't care about me. But I saw you play an important role in Wikimedia and you know everything about Wikimedia, so I asked you for help. Please don't leave my work like others, make it a little harder. Rishad Talukdar (talk) 13:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Notification about possible deletion
Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.
If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Affected:
And also:
- File:1951 Pontiac Chieftain.jpg
- File:Allen age 15 yrs, Emmius age 10 years, Mary Jean age 3 yrs, Summer 1922.jpg
- File:Berta and sister, Hardestry, Milly Paolue, Atlantic City, 1931.jpg
- File:Bill and Berta and sister, Hardestry, Milly Paolue, Atlantic City, 1931.jpg
- File:Booth photograph of an unknown girl, 2.jpg
- File:Booth photograph of an unknown girl, 3.jpg
- File:Booth photograph of an unknown girl.jpg
- File:Booth photograph of an unknown woman.jpg
- File:Carol Ralston, Ursula Reimer, Ruth Magee, Joan Hess, Patty Lynas, Nedra Greer, waiting for mail at P.O.jpg
- File:Catherine Budy with her little sister, Marie Helen Budy, ca. 1938.jpg
- File:Catherine Budy, March 13, 1938.jpg
- File:Danha and Jules wedding day, 02-08-1969.jpg
- File:Dawn and mite blooming arens in Joe Clton's yard, June 1944.jpg
- File:Delta Gamma 1955.jpg
- File:Dorothy Floyd and cousin Jewel Hawkins sitting on the ash pit where the sun was shining.jpg
- File:Ev. Bradys en route to Biloit, Wisconsin with John, 1942.jpg
- File:Girl with flowers, October 1966.jpg
- File:Helen Baughmon, February 1935.jpg
- File:Hotel Sutter, Oakland, California.jpg
- File:Jan 6, 1949, our new truck.jpg
- File:Jean Kulman, August 9, 1945.jpg
- File:Joseph Andrew Clouse with a cat.jpg
- File:Joseph Clouse here along with sister Becky.jpg
- File:Kaibab trail at Grand Canfon National Park.jpg
- File:Katherine Budy, 22 April 1945.jpg
- File:La Jolla shore on Pacific Ocean, Bird haven at Pelican Rocks and far away to get the birds, October 5, 1929.jpg
- File:Libby Goldberg, June 24, 1919.jpg
- File:Locomotive in Idaho Springs.jpg
- File:Lucia in the garden (cropped).jpg
- File:Lucia in the garden.jpg
- File:Mary and Frances.jpg
- File:Mr and Mrs Ova Mead, wedding portrait.jpg
- File:Niagara Falls, June 1971.jpg
- File:Patsy Krablenhoff, myself and Dawn on prison Road near St. Lemon, about 1941.jpg
- File:Portrait of a black man with a moustache and a tie.jpg
- File:Sandy Jacks, 1950.jpg
- File:Seated woman with flowers.jpg
- File:September 14, 1931.jpg
- File:Sunday, April 14, 1946.jpg
- File:Sunset Sunday in Maine, August 1945.jpg
- File:Three portraits of an unknown girl (1).jpg
- File:Three portraits of an unknown girl (2).jpg
- File:Three portraits of an unknown girl (3).jpg
- File:Three portraits of an unknown girl.jpg
- File:Three portraits of Libby Goldberg (1).jpg
- File:Three portraits of Libby Goldberg (2).jpg
- File:Three portraits of Libby Goldberg (3).jpg
- File:Three portraits of Libby Goldberg.jpg
- File:Two girls in white dress with large hat.jpg
- File:Two men in boater hat by the sea.jpg
- File:Two US military with some cameras.jpg
- File:Two women with a car, 11-1936.jpg
- File:US Air Force man portrait.jpg
- File:Woman on Spokane, Nov. 1929.jpg
Yours sincerely, Gestumblindi (talk) 11:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Thpthn and Chris Vineyard
Thpthn has admitted that Chris Vineyard is also him/her (Chris Vineyard is the older one). From what they said, it seems like they were (really) not aware of the policies for multiple accounts and they have also promised not to use thpthn again. Đại Việt quốc (talk) 11:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done I blocked Thpthn. Yann (talk) 11:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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What was the resolution of this image? Is there a way to disable the commons delinker bot? This was a thumbnail for a Signpost issue last year which I apparently have to go manually find and try to re-derive the resolution for. JPxG (talk) 03:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- @JPxG: Sorry, but there doesn't seem to be a valid license for this file. The resolution is 3,008 × 2,000 (5,119,385 bytes). Regards, Yann (talk) 11:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Stan praw autorskich: File:Hermann Gerlich, 1932.jpg
I am attaching a link to the source of the license; https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/6212932/obiekty/470953. This is a government open source: National Digital Archives Marcin Meducki (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcin Meduck: Hi,
- OK, I added a license. Could you please add categories? Thanks, Yann (talk) 22:35, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Small request
Hello Yann! Could you, please, block the October 24 version of File:Aventuras de Hans Staden (6ª edição).pdf in the same way you have done with File:Meu amor! adoro-te!.pdf? Thanks! Erick Soares3 (talk) 01:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done Yann (talk) 11:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Someone went against my SD/Copyvio deletion for the copyrighted images (here and here), by thinking that the text and the illustrations necessary had the same copyright (like in the US). Erick Soares3 (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Issue
Hi, Yann, File:IJVBarasoainChurch2.jpg was deleted by mistake, as it was the redirect target of File:Simabahang Barasoain.jpg. 0x0a (talk) 18:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done OK, undeleted. I don't know what happened. Yann (talk) 19:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- You may not have noticed that the file I marked as 'duplicate' has been redirected. It's okay now, I've restored the link to it. 0x0a (talk) 20:35, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Replaced licensing on images
Added licensing in files commons:File:Емблема Кам'янець-Подільського ліцею з посиленою військово-фізичною підготовкою.jpg ,commons:File:Емблема Тульчинського ліцею з посиленою військово-фізичною підготовкою.png , commons:File:Емблема Луганського обласного ліцею з посиленою військово-фізичною підготовкою.png , commons:File:Емблема Буковинського ліцею з посиленою військово-фізичною підготовкою.png , commons:File:Kryvorizʹkyy litsey logo.png . Олександр Гаркуша (talk) 08:44, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Can you remove the "No permission since" template from these files? I have already specified the license of the files.Thank you! Олександр Гаркуша (talk) 18:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Uploading >70 year old photos
Hi @Yann, thank you for your reply in Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/10#Uploading >70 year old photos. I did some reading on URAA; I am still unsure though how one can check whether a picture or work is protected by URAA? For example in the obituary published by WILEY, would one try to check whether WILEY filed to have this journal copyright extended? (My understanding was that URAA did not automatically extend foreign copyrights but one had to file? (although I'm still confused...) Best, Blue.painting (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Blue.painting: Hi,
- In brief, if it was published less than 95 years ago, the copyright may have been renewed in USA by URAA. See COM:URAA for the details. Yes, it is a major headache for old pictures. Yann (talk) 18:55, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
User:Dalvago
It looks like right after you deleted File:EBR distressed logo.png, Dalvago uploaded File:EBR logo black.png. I assume that they are similar images just on the name. Based on the discussion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:1932 WVBR student photo.png I don't think Dalvago understands copyright (or is just ignoring it). Counterfeit Purses (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Bonjour, Les image de ce livres sont toutes sur Commons, je me demande si "Walt Disney" ne pourrais pas ramener sa fraise. --Le ciel est par dessus le toit (talk) 09:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Le ciel est par dessus le toit: Bonjour,
- Question intéressante ! Cela n'a-t-il vraiment jamais été publié avant 2003 ? Si c'est le cas, il semble que c'est dans le domaine public aux États-Unis, hormis le souci avec Mickey, qui sera probablement dans le domaine prochain le 1er janvier prochain. Sinon, ce sera dans le domaine public aux États-Unis 95 ans après la publication. Dans ce cas, il faudrait transférer les images sur Wikisource. Yann (talk) 18:15, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Je sais bien que tu n’as pas trop de temps, mais te serait-il possible d’effectuer ce transfert car je ne sais comment faire, sinon je supprimerai pour violation des droits d’auteur la page existante sur wikisource. Merci pour la réponse. --Le ciel est par dessus le toit (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Le ciel est par dessus le toit: Vu que c'est probablement OK pour Commons dans un mois et demi, on peut peut-être attendre. Yann (talk) 13:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ok merci d’avoir pris du temps pour me répondre --Le ciel est par dessus le toit (talk) 13:19, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Je sais bien que tu n’as pas trop de temps, mais te serait-il possible d’effectuer ce transfert car je ne sais comment faire, sinon je supprimerai pour violation des droits d’auteur la page existante sur wikisource. Merci pour la réponse. --Le ciel est par dessus le toit (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Undelete please: Renée Rienties Camille 2023.jpg
Hello,
I thought we have seven days to take care of licensing a new image.
You deleted File:Renée Rienties Camille 2023.jpg yesterday. The image-author send an authorize email to your Dutch department, so please undelete the file, so that department can confirm the license, please.
Thanks, Sidney.Cortez (talk) 05:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Sidney.Cortez: Hi,
- Do you have the ticket number? Yann (talk) 08:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I got no ticket number but the license authorization mail has been send two days ago to permissions-nl@wikimedia.org
- Sidney.Cortez (talk) 12:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Then wait for the volunteers to process the permission. The file will be undeleted if and when the permission is validated. Yann (talk) 12:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Another small request
Can you block the version of File:HenryIIGospels.jpg? There is an AI-generated version of it and a user called User:Finsoja4 keeps on doing this. [[User:Flag Creator|Flag Creator]] (talk) 13:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- Done User blocked. Yann (talk) 14:52, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
File copyright status
Hello, Yann. I am writing about this file. There are no permissions on this file, and since there is no exif information, we cannot know whether the file belongs to the user who uploaded it. Best regards, Gadir (talk) 12:40, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Copyright necklaces
Hello! I can see that you are very capable of understanding international copyright laws. Perhaps you could help me with copyright of costume jewellery, in particular Italian glass beaded necklaces from Venice and Murano. I asked a question in Bar Italiano, but nobody answered me. I know that some producers/artists explicitly forbid to photograph their necklaces for all other purposes than private (for example Ercole Moretti [5] : the sale of products through this website is intended solely for the Users’ personal use, to the exclusion of any professional purposes. All texts, images and design deriving from the products and from images of the products featured on this website are protected under Law 633/1941 and under Legislative Decree 30/2005. Their (even partial) use is prohibited. Others don't mention anything about that on their websites, like for example [6]. I have found only such a short information about Italian copyright of necklaces: [7]. Would you like to advise me something? With kind regards. Hortensja Bukietowa (talk) 12:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Hortensja Bukietowa: Hi,
- This is a difficult question, and I don't think it can be answered generally. Each jewellery may have a different copyright status depending of the age, source country, and place at the time the picture is taken. Of course, some creators want to reserve the right to distribute pictures of their creations, but it is not for them to decide what can be done, and what can't. It is the law and the courts which can decide that. Anyway, you can only publish the pictures you take yourself. And it is not because the website doesn't mention anything that pictures of these items can be distributed freely. For example, complex jewellery can certainly have a copyright (this one is too old for that). On the opposite, simple ones certainly don't. There are obviously a very large numbers of cases in between, some of which can't really be decided. I hope this help. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your clear answer. I am afraid that the wedding cake beads (in Italian fiorato) which I took photos of are just in between. The files, 4 or 5, were deleted on my request by administrator Cybularny not such a long time ago. Perhaps you can see the deleted photos with your administrator's tools and decide whether the photos can be restored into Commons or not. I have one simple modern bead, so I will take a photo of it one day. It is a very tiny bead... I need the photos to illustrate the article about Venetian/Murano beads that is still in my draft [8]. There are only photos of historical Murano/Venetian beads. The modern ones are not original. Is there maybe a standard letter that I could send to a few Murano/Venetian bead making glass artists with a request of uploading into Commons a few own photos for educational purposes? What do you think about this idea? With kind regards. Hortensja Bukietowa (talk) 09:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, the cake beads are very complex works, and I wouldn't support publication without approval from the author. File:Chainwithatassel;.jpg and File:Rosesinavase001.jpg are IMO probably OK. File:Brooch88.jpg and File:Brooch89.jpg may be OK, but I am not sure. You could ask on COM:VPC for more opinions. Do you know what's the image source for the Mozart chocolates? If it is a copy from a public domain image, these would be OK. See COM:VRT#Email message template for release of rights to a file for a example of permission. It should be changed, saying that the artist is the author of the jewellery, and that you are the author of the pictures. Yann (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- I thought so. The other files, which you mentioned above (red links), I don't want to restore because of some other reasons. So let it be. Mozart chocolates were in a box, but 1 or 2 photos were left on Commons, so it's okey with me. Commons rules and Copyright rules are complex. Thank you once more for your kind explanation and last but not least for the Autopatroller right. Maybe I will contact via e-mail 1 or 2 Murano glass beads artists to upload a few own photos of their own creations into Commons. I know that some contemporary artists do that. I must think about this idea carefully, about the pros and the cons. Have a nice day! Hortensja Bukietowa (talk) 14:22, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, the cake beads are very complex works, and I wouldn't support publication without approval from the author. File:Chainwithatassel;.jpg and File:Rosesinavase001.jpg are IMO probably OK. File:Brooch88.jpg and File:Brooch89.jpg may be OK, but I am not sure. You could ask on COM:VPC for more opinions. Do you know what's the image source for the Mozart chocolates? If it is a copy from a public domain image, these would be OK. See COM:VRT#Email message template for release of rights to a file for a example of permission. It should be changed, saying that the artist is the author of the jewellery, and that you are the author of the pictures. Yann (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your clear answer. I am afraid that the wedding cake beads (in Italian fiorato) which I took photos of are just in between. The files, 4 or 5, were deleted on my request by administrator Cybularny not such a long time ago. Perhaps you can see the deleted photos with your administrator's tools and decide whether the photos can be restored into Commons or not. I have one simple modern bead, so I will take a photo of it one day. It is a very tiny bead... I need the photos to illustrate the article about Venetian/Murano beads that is still in my draft [8]. There are only photos of historical Murano/Venetian beads. The modern ones are not original. Is there maybe a standard letter that I could send to a few Murano/Venetian bead making glass artists with a request of uploading into Commons a few own photos for educational purposes? What do you think about this idea? With kind regards. Hortensja Bukietowa (talk) 09:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)