Commons:Deletion requests/2024/09/05

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File:Alaska tornado in 2024.jpg

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This image of an event that happened on April 19, 2024 was published on the @NWSAnchoraage X stream with the attribution "Credit to Geremy Clarion who captured these pictures"[1]

There is no claim that he was acting as an employee of the US federal government, or that the photo was ineligible for copyright for any other reason. Therefore, as a photo taken in the United States after 1989, copyright existed from the moment it was taken.

The attribution does not claim or imply that the photographer transferred his rights into the public domain or published this image under a free license.

This image has been uploaded to Commons based on a rationale that it is covered by the site disclaimer for weather.gov and/or the submission guidelines for the Sioux City NWS office.

This file is not hosted on weather.gov, so the disclaimer for that site does not appear to apply, and there is no evidence to connect it with the Sioux City office image submission guidelines, so this rationale does not appear to apply either. Rlandmann (talk) 04:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Conditional Delete – I would recommend someone try to contact the person who took the picture. Especially since it is used on the w:List of Alaska tornadoes En-wiki page. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 20:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep? — Hey @Rlandmann: and Hurricane Clyde, this image has been uploaded to the Commons multiple times (under different licenses): File:EF0 tornado Rusty Point, AK 2024 (1).jpg, File:EF0 tornado Rusty Point, AK 2024 (2).jpg, File:EF0 tornado Rusty Point, AK 2024 (3).jpg, so some administrative merges MAY need to happen (Continue reading this before merging stuff). However, ChessEric discovered the first-ever actual photo of a tornado on the DAT…this one. URL for the DAT. I confirmed it is on the DAT still. The DAT caption only says, “Weak landspout observed near Rusty Point.”, no attribution or anything. Since it is on the DAT, this should be a kept photo? I can also confirm the DAT has not one, but three photos of the tornado listed for that specific “survey” point: 123. Since it is 3 different photos, maybe no merge needs to happen? I am not sure really at all, but it is confirmed to be on the DAT, so {{PD-DAT}} should apply? Maybe? WeatherWriter (talk) 18:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per @WeatherWriter, DAT images are public domain. Striking out my previous comment. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 18:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks WeatherWriter! This definitely needs a closer look. The most basic question to resolve is: are these all really the same image? --Rlandmann (talk) 22:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so. I believe this DR image (the "(0)" image), is the same as the "(3)" image. Image "(1)" and "(2)" look to be more and more zoomed in than "(3)/(0)". That said, the actual tornado looks slightly different in each of the 3 photo zooms. Metadata is also different for each photo (specifically shutter speed/zoom and other things). The time stamps are the same minute though. Based on that, I think the photos are just taken within seconds of each other, but still different actual photos, not the same one. So this image (calling it "(0)" to separate them even though it doesn't have a "(#)") is the same as "(3)", so those need merging together. But "(1)" and "(2)" are different. WeatherWriter (talk) 23:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question, then, with obviously major implications... is it even possible that a photo not taken by an NWS/NOAA employee might have made its way into the DAT?
I've reached out to someone in the right place with the right name to be the photographer credited by the NWS, to see what they have to say about it. But have we ever seen such a thing before? --Rlandmann (talk) 12:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've not. The DAT is used for NWS-based damage photos. This is also the first non-damage photo I know of on the DAT. If for some reason, it isn't an NWS employee photo, then I would chop that up to the Alaskan office using it differently than every-other NWS office, since that's the fifth Alaskan tornado ever recorded (last one before this year was in 2005, well before the DAT records stuff). From what I know of: It is the first photo of a tornado on the DAT. Also...I checked from January 1, 2013 to present day...that's the first "damage point" on the DAT in Alaska, and subsequently the first in NWS Anchorage's area. So, if it isn't an NWS employee photo, this would 100% be a one-off instance of an Alaskan office who never uses the DAT, using it one time. WeatherWriter (talk) 13:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; that makes perfect sense to me. To be explicit about my thinking; even if we do find this to be a non-NWS and non-free image, I don't think it automatically calls into question everything else we've sourced to the DAT so far. As I've said in different contexts, given the sheer volume of images, individuals, and timescales involved, 100% consistency would be astonishing. There are bound to be weird anomalies, and this could very well be one! --Rlandmann (talk) 13:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And I assume @Rlandmann that this would still be a perfect candidate for NFF on En-Wiki. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 16:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it would, but for this image, that should not influence any !votes here, as that is EN-Wiki and this is the Commons, a separate project. WeatherWriter (talk) 16:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The vast majority (if not all) the images we're talking about would be candidates, including this one. However, as WeatherWriter points out, in this particular instance, we seem to have multiple very similar images of this tornado. If it's found to be unfree, then NFF could only justify using one of them. (Not that I think anyone would mind, just noting the technicality in the hope it might better illustrate how NFF operates). --Rlandmann (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.


 I withdraw my nomination -- the copyright holder has agreed to license under a free license. --Rlandmann (talk) 23:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Трейл-кросс памяти Янышенко Б.В. и Онучина М.Н.jpg

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No FoP for 2D works in Crimea A1Cafel (talk) 04:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Bottom of the source website says "Все материалы сайта доступны по лицензии: Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International". The 2D work mentioned above can be found in this article of said source website: https://simfmo.rk.gov.ru/articles/9afe3f1f-2a7a-43fd-9034-9af1b08dae22 Nakonana (talk) 22:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Данные соревнования по бегу проводятся структурой Министерства спорта Крыма, фото выполнено пресслужбой Министерства спорта Крыма и размещено на его сайте. Рекламный передвижной банер размещен в лесу на месте финиша и также выполнен и принадлежит структуре Министерства спорта Крыма. На все материалы сайта министерства лицензия CC BY 4.0

These running competitions are held by the structure of the Ministry of Sports of Crimea, the photo was taken by the press service of the Ministry of Sports of Crimea and posted on its website. The advertising mobile banner is located in the forest at the finish line and is also made and belongs to the structure of the Ministry of Sports of Crimea. All materials on the website of the ministry are licensed CC BY 4.0 --Трифонов Андрей (talk) 04:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:中華民國教育部 新版部徽.png

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這是一個錯誤的部徽且詆毀公家機關形象，並會造成其他使用者於網路搜尋時誤用，請刪除他。 A931404 (talk) 06:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I don't know what this means or whether it's a deletion reason (Google translation): "This is a wrong emblem that denigrates the image of public agencies and may cause other users to misuse it when searching online. Please delete it." However, if this is under copyright, it wouldn't be a textlogo and should be deleted for that reason. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:صورة ملك الصواف في الملعب.jpg

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Personal photo: out of the scope of the project Michel Bakni (talk) 07:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to have more than a million followers on Instagram and TikTok [2][3]. Also claims to be a professional Syrian soccer player. And something about an invitation to the Miss Lebanon stage[4]. But the uploader appears also to be the depicted subject, so questionable license and likely promotional aim. Nakonana (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.

File:Flag of Mecca.svg

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Ygguhgyugg Strmare (talk) 15:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Nonsense DR closed, no valid reason for deletion provided. I've opened a new deletion request at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Flags of municipalities of Saudi Arabia. --AFBorchert (talk) 16:28, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of Mecca.svg

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There is no government source that specifies this flag as the flag of the Municipality of Mecca. According to w:WP:FOTW, FlagsOfTheWorld is an unreliable source. Howardcorn33 (talk) 07:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After some research i have found that a correct flag of Mecca, which is here: Strenatos (talk) 04:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"FlagsOfTheWorld is an unreliable source" FOTW has been used on wikipedia for most of it's life as a source and it's sources are more reliable than what is found mostly online as it's researched by vexillologists, in fact most flag pages here on wikipedia have a bunch of misinformation, WP:FOTW is stupid because wikimedia allows fictional junk flags on here and they get used meanwhile FOTW usually points out when a flag is dubious.
Anyways, The flag is real and Strenatos has confirmed that. BlinxTheKitty (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Tho the real flag is a bit different from this and this flag has the arabic text wrongly rendered Abo Yemen✉ 13:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Calcutta Nostalia painting done by me.jpg

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This file was initially tagged by Wikishovel as Copyvio (copyright) and the most recent rationale was: non-free image copied from https://www.saatchiart.com/en-gb/art/Painting-Calcutta-Nostalgia-Avanish-s-Calcutta/1061906/8123836/view
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion. External source credits this painting to Avanish Trivedi, which resembles the username of the uploader. So, he/she might indeed be the painter. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of the Soviet Union (1955-1991).svg

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This flag already exists. Adinar0012 (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of the Soviet Union (1955–1991).svg

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This flag already exists. Adinar0012 (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Splatoon 3.svg

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This file was initially tagged by Kirilloparma as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Non-trivial logo Yann (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I uploaded this logo to match old SVG Splatoon logos such as the Splatoon and Splatoon 2 ones.
I consider this SVG as complex as the Splatoon 2 logo (I believe it's actually derivated from it since the Splatoon shape is really similar if not identical) and therefore I would like it to not be deleted as I don't think it is an infringement of copyright since it is a simplified version of Splatoon 3's official logo and it is not complex enough to be copyrighted, or at least is as much complex as the old logos which are marked as non complex enough.
Additionally I don't think it surpasses the threshold of originality as it is equally if not less complex than other logos that have been determined not copyrightable by law agents, such as the Cyberpunk 2077 logo which has two colors instead of one and is overall more complex in my opinion (it has a much larger SVG file size as well), which was denied copyright registration by the Review Board of the U.S. Copyright Office for not being complex enough.
Ultimately, if it gets deleted for being too complex, I think the Splatoon and Splatoon 2 ones should be deleted under the same criteria. Wmyttmlimvty (talk) 12:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Melania Dalla Costa - (2024).jpg

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This file was initially tagged by AntiCompositeBot as no license (User:AntiCompositeBot/NoLicense/tag) Yann (talk) 11:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bharatiya Janata Party logo.svg

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complex logo at the threshold of the complexity allowed here. Discussion is required to determine whether we may hold it. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 11:47, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep - Simple logo of a lotus. --Sreejith K (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete per rational, appears to be the symbol of the party in India, with a creator and you would need some type of legal rational for party symbols in India to be fair use, or explicit policy by the copyright owner (who is likely an individual on contract with the party). Sadads (talk) 21:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
note to admin, image is widely used across many wikis Sadads (talk) 21:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fire Agate

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This is not a gallery page: with only one photo. In my opinion a gallery page has a lot of images and the purpose is "to present readers with a structured and meaningful collection of the media found here on Wikimedia Commons" (see Commons:Galleries). This gallery page does not meet these criteria. JopkeB (talk) 12:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St. Elmo's Fire

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This is not a gallery page: with only one photo. In my opinion a gallery page has a lot of images and the purpose is "to present readers with a structured and meaningful collection of the media found here on Wikimedia Commons" (see Commons:Galleries). This gallery page does not meet these criteria. JopkeB (talk) 12:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Files uploaded by Ženg (talk · contribs)

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Inconsistent PD rationale. You can't state the author is died over 70 year ago if you don't know who the author is. The country of origin must be determined in each case to check whether these are PD.

Quick1984 (talk) 12:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(2) Copyright to a work that has legally become available to the public anonymously or under a pseudonym shall be in effect for 70 years from the time when it has legally become available to the public. If during the time referred to the author of a work whose work has legally become available to the public anonymously or under a pseudonym reveals his or her identity, or if there is no doubt about the identity, Section 36, Paragraph one of this Law shall apply.--Ženg (talk) 07:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hatikva vocal.ogg

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Source website states the following: "Copyright © Israel Science and Technology Directory. 1999‑2024 - All Rights Reserved." Tidjani Saleh (talk) 13:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Clearly a copyvio Wheatley2 (talk) 19:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do not delete. 2A02:587:3219:D81B:406F:BE9D:274B:6EA5 15:42, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Franck fernandel marseille 1972 archives privées libre de droits.jpg

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This file was initially tagged by VFP75 as Speedy (SD) and the most recent rationale was: G7
Converted to regular DR, as file does not qualify for G7-speedy and is externally used (https://www.libramemoria.com/deces-celebres/2011/06/08/frank-fernandel-le-fils-de-l-acteur-marseillais-fernandel-est-decede). -- Túrelio (talk) 14:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Svobodné noviny - 23.5.1945 - volume 1, issue 1.jpg

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Newspaper from 1945. Authors of some texts died after 1953 -> unfree texts. Harold (talk) 14:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Nová svoboda" by Eduard Bass - en:Eduard Bass died in 1946 -> ok
  • "Naše úkoly a cesty" by Hubert Ripka - en:Hubert Ripka died in 1958 -> not ok
  • "Rudý prapor nad Berlínem" by TASS - an anonymous translation of an article by Soviet news agency en:TASS -> not sure
  • "Labouristé žádají volby" - an article by Czechoslovak news agency en:ČTK -> not sure
  • "Hroby na Rokosce" poem by Vladimír Thiele -> cs:Vladimír Thiele died in 1997 -> not ok
  • "Lidice" by Ladislav Matějky -> en:Ladislav Matějka died in 2012 -> not ok

--Harold (talk) 14:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Maravijaya Buddha Image.jpg

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Per the 2019 Copyright Act, there is no more freedom of panorama in Myanmar. Ninja✮Strikers «☎» 18:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:THE WRATH OF KHAN.png

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Appeal for speedy deletion: The file File:THE WRATH OF KHAN.png is a colored text on a black background that I made in Photoshop. It's basically a copy of the old German version of Star trek 2 de.svg that had the Wikidata file before mine and that was used in almost all other versions of Wikipedia. It cannot infringe any copyright because, as the license indicates, it is a simple text on a black background, like the thousands of movie production logos on Commons. The user who requested the prompt deletion of this and other similar files "because it is a logo" has uploaded several similar negative versions, such as File:Star trek the motion picture logo black.png as logos too. Geom (talk) 20:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The star background and the light can be above TOO. Grandmaster Huon (talk) 21:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Star trek 2 de.svg has no complex backgrounds. Grandmaster Huon (talk) 21:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Deutsches Museum (10799260195).jpg

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Copyrighted content within the freely licensed one. Brunnaiz (talk) 20:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lies of P Logo Vector.svg

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may be above COM:TOO South Korea Grandmaster Huon (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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