Template talk:Lang-mp/Archive 1

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A little detail... ¿Why we are including Language: (in English) in this international template? (Unsigned by User:Pybalo)

I see your point, and I've removed the Languages: part. I think it looks better this way, unless anyone objects. Nadavspi 21:46, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, if anyone objects, now we can add "Language:" in Main_Page, "Lenguaje:" in Portada, etc. ;) --Pybalo 00:31, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Alphabetical order

I guess the plan is to have alphabetical order by the national form of the name of the language, so, for example, Hungarian/Magyar goes as "M", and not as "H". --Grin 14:27, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Table

Why adding a table to this template? It causes an unnecessary line break, and if some project wants it that way could put the table in its main page. I propose to remove the table (the border) from the template and leave only <center><small>, or even only <small> (although I think some consistency between project is good). --Suruena 08:41, 2005 Apr 13 (UTC)

It was I that added it. There is now a border around the Lang-page on some main pages, this border does not display right, because this page has 100% width. If you border a page that has a 100% width it will make it 105% (or something like that), which can be seen on the main page as an open right-end border. Looks pretty bad if you ask me. However I understand the issue with the line break, so maybe someone that is a superexpert on coding can remove both issues? Twthmoses 10:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

About order

This should do Language code order. --kahusi - (Talk) 06:24, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

If there is not an argument for three days, I edit Template. --kahusi - (Talk) 22:17, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

From Commons:Village pump

It does not get control in Template:Lang-mp and Template:Potd/Day. Though I described an opinion in Talk.... How is it proper? --kahusi - (Talk) 08:45, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

カフシさん、CantoneseWikiさん、おメッセージ有難う御座いました。 感謝你給我這個信息. Kahusi, CantneseWiki, thanks for your messages. こんな事では、何も知らないだと思っていますが。 我不知道說什麼. I'm sorry, but I don't really know what to say here. でも、こちらは、CantoneseWikiさんと同意したいと思っています。 但是,我同意CW. However, I think I will agree with CantoneseWiki. However please take my opinion with a grain of salt. --Node ue 3 July 2005 08:01 (UTC) From Template:Lang-mp - History:

CantoneseWiki m (I am afriad I've to revert it. "zh-yue" is not the code for the script, but "zh-hk". Zh-yue denotes Cantonese as a dialect of Chinese, which is disputed. It is generally not intelligible with Mandarin)

There is not a lang attribute for a script, and there is it for a language It is not a problem what kind of language it is intelligible by. "zh-yue" right signify "粤語" and signify "廣東話". --kahusi - (Talk) 06:08, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Fixed: Lang attribute is not for a script but for a language. It is not a problem what kind of language be intelligible. .... --kahusi - (Talk) 2005-06-30 14:35:09 (UTC)

I am afraid there is no script called zh-yue. Cantonese is written in Chinese characters, and specifically, zh-HK, which is tailored made to serve the need of Cantonese-specific characters. Cantonese is Cantonese, together with Mandarin, Taiwanese, Shanghainese, etc., are separate languages of the family of Chinese languages. It is not just a variant form of writing like the difference zh-hant (Traditional Chinese characters) and zh-hans (Simplified Chinese characters). - CantoneseWiki 29 June 2005 19:29 (UTC)

There is it in my argument with "There is not a lang attribute for a script, and there is it for a language Lang attribute is not for a script but for a language.". The language code that Chinese is given for the variety is only "zh". Min-nan language which is a category of "zh" in a reason is "zh-min-nan". Since Cantonese does not have an exclusive language code either, and it is a category of "zh", it is an extremely natural thing that use "zh-yue". And it is NPOV most that the order of lists of a language is a order of a language code.

• The Japanese original: 私の反論には「lang属性は文字の為ではなく、言語の為にある」とあるのですが。中国語はその多様性の割に与えられている言語コードはzhのみです。故にzhの範疇である閩南語もzh-min-nanであります。広東語も専用の言語コードが無く、zhの範疇である以上、zh-yueを使うのはごく自然な事です。そして、言語の一覧の順序は、言語コードの順番であるのが最もNPOVであります。

--kahusi - (Talk) 2005-06-30 13:31:03 (UTC)

Chinese is not one language, but a family of many languages, although many would consider them a single language as they share a writing standard. Nevertheless each of the languages is a language on its own merit, and can be written in its own way.

For the use on computer, software designers have assigned two sets of language codes for Chinese, that is, zh-hant or zh-TW for the traditional script, and zh-hans or zh-CN for the simplified script. In other words, the language codes denote the script, but not the language. zh-HK is assigned for the set in which characters specific to Cantonese are included. - CantoneseWiki 1 July 2005 13:24 (UTC)

It does not have a connection that there are having assigned zh-TW/zh-CN and a language code for a letter.

There is ISO 639 used by a language code for a language name as ISO 639 says "ISO 639 is one of several international standards that lists short codes for language names". A lang attribute of HTML uses ISO 639 again, too.

TW / CN / HK is a code of ISO 3166. "ISO 3166 is a three-part geographic coding standard for coding the names of countries and dependent areas, and the principal subdivisions thereof." (From ISO 3166) It seems to distribute a language in a country to use this for another language and should avoid it.

In addition, only by having attached this code to zh, it does not leave a level of Mandarin used about somewhere. (zh-TW is a meaning of Chinese used in Taiwan. A software designer merely used it for traditional script. Also, zh-hant is a meaning of Chinese written in traditional script.)

And I describe the subject again last: It complies with the most neutral point of view that the order of lists of a language is a turn of a language code.

• The Japanese original: zh-TWとzh-CNを割り当てた事と、言語コードが文字の為にあるという事は、繋がりがありません。言語コードに利用されているISO 639は、「ISO 639 is one of several international standards that lists short codes for language names.」と書いてある通り、言語名の為にあります。HTMLのlang属性もまた、ISO 639を利用しています。TW、CN、HKはISO 3166のコードであり、国名又は地域名を表します。別の言語の為にこれを使うのは、言語を国で分ける様なものであり、避けるべきです。また、このコードをzhに付けただけでは、どこかで使われているMandarinの域を出ません。（zh-TWは台湾で使われている中国語という意味になります。それをソフトウェアデザイナーが繁体字の為に利用したに過ぎません。zh-hantもまた、繁体字で書かれた中国語という意味です。）そして最後に主題を再び述べます：言語の一覧の順序は、言語コードの順番であるのが最も中立的な観点に添うものであります。

--kahusi - (Talk) 2005-07-01 17:07:14 (UTC)

Sorry I cannot understand whay you are saying. Please consider the fact that "als" is used for Alemannic edition of Wikipedia, and "nds" for Low Saxon and East Low German, instead of nl-nds/de-nds, or de-als. "ang" is not en-ang either. - CantoneseWiki 2 July 2005 10:07 (UTC)

IANA sets up "zh-yue" for Cantonese language: http://www.iana.org/assignments/lang-tags/zh-yue . how do you want to order languages?

• See also: http://www.iana.org/assignments/lang-tag-apps.htm , http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-tags , http://rfc.net/rfc3282.html

--kahusi - (Talk) 2005-07-02 17:51:31 (UTC)

ja:

Node ue氏のコメントに感謝します。CantoneseWiki氏への同意とは何を指すのでしょうか。

Interlangの順序について："en:Wikipedia:Language order poll"や[1]を見ると、「言語コードによるアルファベット順」の他に「現地語(の発音)によるアルファベット順」があり得る様です。

en:

I thank for comment of Mr(s). Node ue. What will you point at with an agreement to Mr(s). CantoneseWiki?

About the order of Interlang: There can seem to be "By order of alphabet, based on local language" other than "By order of alphabet, based on two letter code" when I watch "en:Wikipedia:Language order poll" and [2].

--kahusi - (Talk) 2005-07-05 13:40:20 (UTC)

ja:

このまま5日間反論が無ければ、広東語の言語コードは「zh-yue」とし、並び順は上記二つのどちらか、という事にしますが、宜しいでしょうか。

en:

When there is not an argument for 5 days, I do it with: a language code of Cantonese assumes it "zh-yue", and two our one that the order was written on the above. Will you be all right?

--kahusi - (Talk) 2005-07-08 19:52:14 (UTC)

Thanks for the discussion. But frankly I cannot understand what you are trying to say, except that I can guess your position. I am not sure if you can understand what I said. - CantoneseWiki 17:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Then one asks you a question. Why do you want to do a position of Cantonese (gwóng dūng wá / yuht yúh (Yale Romanization)) at a position of "c"? --kahusi - (Talk) 12:09:18, 2005-07-13 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not a linguist at all, but I can read Japanese and I feel Kahusi's English might have cause some problems in communication. But basically he is (would be) right, I think. So let me explain what he'd like to tell.

But before that, let's not care about language order for a while. That's not the primary concern here, right?

All right then, I'll begin. Correct me if I'm wrong:

1. According to the pages of W3C (w3c lang-tag page and w3c css-lang page), it was true some used "zh-HK" or kind of that, in the past. However, now "the IANA language code registry has more precise language codes for a range of Chinese languages." (quoted from w3c css-lang page)
2. Then, please take a look at IANA's lang-tag page. Here, among many other zh-XXs, "zh-yue" is especially prepared for Cantonaese. In other words, it's is a tailor-made lang attribute for Cantonaese ("zh-yue" description page at IANA).

Thus, using "zh-yue" for Cantonaese seems the natural way. If my (our) understanding has any faults, please point them out.

And well, in fact, I found that there're many people who accept zh-yue as Cantonaese...

- Marsian / talk 10:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC) added Marsian / talk 06:15, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

To my understanding zh-TW, zh-HK, zh-CN, zh-hant, zh-hans, etc. are the codes assigned to the scripts. This is because Chinese group of languages is usually written in one single writing standard, with two common sets of scripts. Nonetheless Chinese can also be written according to the languages belonging to the group. Using codes such as zh-min-nan and zh-yue represents only one side of the view that Chinese is one language, and its variant are dialects, while many linguists would actually consider them different languages of the same family. Node ue can say a bit more. - CantoneseWiki 11:33, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

• まだ終っていないのでログからコピーペーストしました。--kahusi - (Talk) 11:58:48, 2005-07-20 (UTC)

どなたか、英語への翻訳を御願い致します。 // I ask for somebody, translation to English.

文字に割り当てられているのは「zh-Hans」と「zh-Hant」のみです。

独立した言語であるか、何語の方言であるかに関らず、lang属性やWikipediaのサブドメインに於いては、他に良い規格が無い以上、上記の規格を利用せざるを得ません。ウィキメディアプロジェクト内で独自に法則を決める事はすべきではありません。

しかし、記事の中に於けるInterlangでは、「現地語(の発音)によるアルファベット順」とする事が出来、gwongの位置に広東語を置く事が出来るでしょう。

--kahusi - (Talk) 12:15:35, 2005-07-20 (UTC)

Hi, Kahusi. I tried.

Kahusi > 文字に割り当てられているのは「zh-Hans」と「zh-Hant」のみです。

The codes assigned to the scripts are "zh-Hans" and "zh-Hant" alone.

Kahusi > 独立した言語であるか、何語の方言であるかに関らず、lang属性やWikipediaのサブドメインに於いては、他に良い規格が無い以上、上記の規格を利用せざるを得ません。ウィキメディアプロジェクト内で独自に法則を決める事はすべきではありません。

Using zy-yue for this case is nothing to do with wether Cantonese is an independent language, or a dialect of certain language. Since there isn't other appropriate standard, we've got to use zh-yue for "lang-" attribute or for "xx.wikipedia"(subdomain of wikipedia). There's no other choice. We should avoid to establish our own standards, which can be applied just inside the wikimedia projects.

Kahusi > しかし、記事の中に於けるInterlangでは、「現地語(の発音)によるアルファベット順」とする事が出来、gwongの位置に広東語を置く事が出来るでしょう。

By the way, as a interlang link, you can put it(zh-yue) at the place of "gwong", according to "By order of alphabet, based on local language" (w:en:Wikipedia:Language order poll).

How about it? Please correct if wrong.（主語や文意の一部は想像で補いましたが違ってたら失礼）

Now, CantoneseWiki, I guess I understand what you'd like to say. All right, Cantonese should not be a part of Chinese as zh-XX maybe. However, the problem here is NOT what Cantonese should be described, but what it is described at the moment.

If you're not satisfied with zh-yue as Cantonase, isn't it your task to tell that to ISO or IANA or kind of those officials? Bottom line, wikimedias are not very good place to disscuss linguistic issues (Perhaps I feel as the same as Kahusi does). When you solve the problem and achieve to change zh-yue to something new, then, you can change lang attribute. Isn't that the right order?

Er.. do not understand what I mean? "Now zh-yue is already the standard code for Cantonese, and why don't you admit it (for a while, at least)?" Just that. - Marsian / talk 14:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

• 暫く反論が無い様なので、更に一週間反論が無ければ、同意したものと見なします。
• Well, there's no reply for a while... If you don't have any objection to this issue for another week, I'll then consider you all are agreed with my opinion. (Translation to Enlish by Marsian. The original sentence by Kahusi is now commented out)
  • 英文添削願います。
• --kahusi - (Talk) 23:36:55, 2005-07-28 (UTC)
  • I tried for better translation. // 相手も non-native ですし，平易な表現に訳し直してみました． Marsian / talk 12:22, 29 July 2005 (UTC) mod - Marsian / talk 05:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

一週間が経過したので、同意したものと考え、記事の編集をしようと思います。尤も、Template:Lang-mpは保護されていますが。

• Since a week has passed, I think that you agreed and I intend to edit the article. However, Template:Lang-mp is protected....

(英文の添削御願い致します。) --kahusi - (Talk) 14:03:38, 2005-08-05 (UTC)

Fixed the sentence a little.

By the way, according to the protection log, the page was protected by Aka on 25 July 2005. Then I called him/her on the talk page to see this section. // Aka さんの会話ページに「こっちを見てくれ」って書いておきました． - Marsian / talk 05:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I protected it due to repeated vandalism (please see the history of this template). Now, I removed the protection, lets see what happens. -- aka 07:33, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I edited template. --kahusi - (Talk) 20:13:40, 2005-08-06 (UTC)

Template:Potd/Dayのcant, zh, zh-twは変更すべきでしょうか。--kahusi - (Talk) 20:31:10, 2005-08-06 (UTC) % 訳せない……

Low Saxon

Could someone please add Low Saxon Mainpage: Heufdpagina, Language name: Nedersaksisch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.202.242 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

廣東話「玄關」定「門口」(或「首頁」)

廣東話裡面冇人會講「玄關」，通常我地會講「門口」，又或者對網頁，我地會講「首頁」。 另外，如果查一查字典，就會發覺「玄關」根本係有另一個意思。 「唐代住宅入門處與正廳之間的空間，今日住宅仍存有類似的隔局。唐．岑參．丘中春臥寄王子詩：『田中開白室，林下閉玄關。』」（教育部國語辭典） 我地應該係指「入門處」，而唔係「入門處」同「正廳」之間的一個空間，所以「玄關」根本就唔適當。 我已經搬左「玄關」去「門口」（我係talk page提出左好耐，但冇人覆，咁我當係……贊成？），希望改埋哩個template個連結。--Samhau 04:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Estonian

Could someone please add Estonian Mainpage: Esileht, Language name: Eesti

--WikedKentaur 18:47, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Any administrators out here? --WikedKentaur 09:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I've got this page on my watchlist now ... User:dbenbenn 17:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Faroese

Could someone please add the Faroese Main Page: Savn, Language name: Føroyskt. That is: <span lang="fo">[[Savn|Føroyskt]]</span> | Quackor 11:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Aragonés

There is a mistake in the page Template:Lang-mp, International code for aragonés is AN, but not AST, please will change it. --CHV (Mi Buzón de Correos) 21:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Getting attention from admins

You can contact an admin who speaks your language by going to COM:ADMIN and finding one with your language code. Then leave a note on their Talk page. If there are none... please consider making a request for adminship! :) pfctdayelise 00:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Basque

Please, insert the basque language link. Code is: eu http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Azala Kabri 19:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. User:dbenbenn 05:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Ukrainian

Please, insert the ukrainian language link: span lang="uk" Головна сторінка|Українська — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vlad2k (talk • contribs) 14:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Please update the link for Cantonese main page

Would any admin help to update the link from [[玄關|廣東話]] to [[頭版|廣東話]] ? "玄關" is very uncommon to be used in Cantonese. Instead, to translate "main page" in English or "首頁" in Traditional Chinese, a more suitable word should be "頭版" in Cantonese, where "頭" means "首" (head, which can further mean main) and "版" means "頁" (page). Thanks very much. -- Kevinhksouth 17:40, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thuresson 17:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Please add Alemannisch

Hello,

could someone please add [[Houptsyte|Alemannisch]] | to the Template.

According to Commons:Help page maintenance we are reasonable complete and also up to date.

Thanks in advance, -- Test-tools 22:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I have added it. Nice work by the way. I like reading Alemanisch. :-) Arnomane 23:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Gaeilge

Hi could someone add the irish version [[Príomhleathanach|Gaeilge]] thanks Iolar 22:02, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. User:dbenbenn 02:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

&uselang= links

Here are the &uselang links. Please edit and add again 4 languages : after galego, after cantonese, after hebrew, after swedish (I can't see the letters on my computer, as I don't have the proper fonts, and could do nothing but remove them, although they should stay) Teofilo 13:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

als, Houptsyte and Alemannisch | ar, الصفحة الرئيسية and العربية | an, Portalada and Aragonés | ast, Entamu and Asturianu | id, Halaman Utama and Bahasa Indonesia | be, Галоўная старонка and Беларуская | br, Br/Degemer and Brezhoneg | bg, Начална страница and Български | ca, Pàgina principal and Català | cs, Hlavní strana and Česky | cy, Hafan and Cymraeg | dk, Forside and Dansk | de, Hauptseite and Deutsch | ang, Héafodsíde and Eald Englisc | et, Esileht and Eesti | el, Κύρια Σελίδα and Ελληνικά | en, Main Page and English | es, Portada and Español | eo, Ĉefpaĝo and Esperanto | eu, Azala and Euskara | fa, صفحه‌ی اصلی and فارسی | fo, Savn and Føroyskt | fr, Accueil and Français | ga, Príomhleathanach and Gaeilge | gl, Portada galega and Galego | zh-yue, 頭版 and 廣東話 | he, עמוד ראשי and עברית | hr, Glavna stranica and Hrvatski | ia, Frontispicio and Interlingua | is, Forsíða and Íslenska | it, Pagina principale and Italiano | ja, メインページ and 日本語 | ko, 대문 and 한국어 | pam, Pamuklat and Kapampangan | la, Pagina prima and Latine | le, Haaptsäit and Lëtzebuergesch | hu, Kezdőlap and Magyar | mo, Паджина принчипалэ and Молдовеняскэ (кирилица) | nl, Hoofdpagina and Nederlands | nds-nl, Heufdpagina and Nedersaksisch (Lower Saxon (NL)) | no, Hovedside and Norsk (bokmål/riksmål) | nn, Hovudside and Norsk (nynorsk) | pl, Strona główna and Polski | pt, Página principal and Português | ro, Pagina principală and Română | ru, Заглавная страница and Русский | sk, Hlavná stránka and Slovenčina | sl, Glavna stran and Slovenščina | sh, Glavna stranica - Главна страница and Srpskohrvatski/Српскохрватски | sr, Главна страна and Српски | fi, Etusivu and Suomi | sv, Huvudsida and Svenska | th, หน้าหลัก and ภาษาไทย | vi, Trang Chính and Tiếng Việt | tr, Ana Sayfa and Türkçe | zh, 首页 and 简体中文 | zh-hk, 主頁 and 正體中文

Looks like these 5 are missig: ગુજરાતી, 한국어, हिन्दी, ಕನ್ನಡ, and தமிழ். User:dbenbenn 22:10, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

한국어 (Korean, just before kapampangan) is OK. The other 4 are a problem on my computer. Teofilo 01:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Teofilo: I dislike these uselang things in every language template. If I am browsing the english language pages I want to have my German interface and nothing else and as you can imagine I am editing the English pages a lot and having a different interface everytime (it will switch back and forth if you edit a page for example) is a big big usability problem. So it is very much confusing changing the interface that way. The only case where it makes sense is a direct link from a local language Wikipedia to Commons at the local upload link and at the account creation page but nowhere else. Arnomane 22:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Please, Arnomane, take a larger view than your own little personal comfort. Most of the users will want to watch an English page with an English interface and a German page with a German interface. At present time when a user who is not logged in wants to read a non-English version, the links around the page are in English, and it would be much more useful for that reader to have those links in the language he has chosen for reading the page. Teofilo 01:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

No I certainly don't want to step back. I am contributing to Wikimedia Commons right now and not maybe in future like some random visitor and I want to give all people the same good experience I have. If I don't have a good interface experience how can a new user have a good one? Changing the interface with every page you visit is bad. It is even better having the interface eniterely in chinese as long as it is the same for the whole session unless I deliberately switched it or unless I had my favourite interface from the beginnings on. Arnomane 09:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Arnomane, for your own private use, you can click on the new &uselang=de link and if you want to use another language for the peripheral menues, you can click right after that, on the Artikel tab, which is the first tab on the top left corner of the page, so that the page will be displayed like you want : German at the center, and English at the periphery. Especially on pages like the Main page, Commons:welcome, which function as entrance doors to Wikimedia Commons, we should set a priority on user-friendliness for new users. The older users who know these pages almost by heart won't be disturbed that much by these changes. And they can always return to their old habit by clicking on the first « Article » tab. Teofilo 11:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No. This is exactly the usability problem I am describing. Ever tried to find a certain button (let us say the article button, not even to mention the edit button) in a hebrew or arab interface? Worst of all for us people that somehow realized that there are RTL languages the RTL-interfaces of Commons are a mixture out of RTL and LTR. You will need quite some time finding the right button and that's for sure I can remove vandalism on pages that I can't read. So everyone needs to edit these pages quick and efficiently and not after some insider vodoo with a second mouse click on a mysterious button. Arnomane 11:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

How about this slightly changed version :

Alemannisch ▫ العربية ▫ Aragonés ▫ Asturianu ▫ Bahasa Indonesia ▫ Беларуская ▫ Brezhoneg ▫ Български ▫ Català ▫ Česky ▫ Cymraeg ▫ Dansk ▫ Deutsch ▫ Eald Englisc ▫ Eesti ▫ Ελληνικά ▫ English ▫ Español ▫ Esperanto ▫ Euskara ▫ فارسی ▫ Føroyskt ▫ Français ▫ Gaeilge ▫ Galego ▫ 廣東話 ▫ עברית ▫ Hrvatski ▫ Interlingua ▫ Íslenska ▫ Italiano ▫ 日本語 ▫ 한국어 ▫ Kapampangan ▫ Latine ▫ Lëtzebuergesch ▫ Magyar ▫ Молдовеняскэ (кирилица) ▫ Nederlands ▫ Nedersaksisch (Lower Saxon (NL)) ▫ Norsk (bokmål/riksmål) ▫ Norsk (nynorsk) ▫ Polski ▫ Português ▫ Română ▫ Русский ▫ Slovenčina ▫ Slovenščina ▫ Srpskohrvatski/Српскохрватски ▫ Српски ▫ Suomi ▫ Svenska ▫ ภาษาไทย ▫ Tiếng Việt ▫ Türkçe ▫ 简体中文 ▫ 正體中文 ▫

If you want to keep your habit of reading a page in a language and reading the peripheral menu in another language, you may click on the "▫" link. Teofilo 12:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea - can't believe we haven't used it before! But it looks like there is a need for an option to turn it off as well. Perhaps we can use some CSS magic so that either it only works for non-logged in editors (since logged-in editors should set their language preferences), or else you can make it not work by inserting something in your CSS/JS files? But if neither of those are possible I like the "▫" version (whatever that symbol is). This is a very intuitive design - if a user chooses to read a Japanese page, it's reasonable to assume they want to read the Japanese version of any other page available.

It will, I think, stop working as soon as they stop following navigation-bar links (for example click on a link in a discussion or type something in the search box - not sure about that one?). But it's better than before. pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:09, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Also it's easy to get rid of - just delete the "&uselang=" bit from the URL. That's not affected by RTL/LTR issues (check -- [he mainpage]). If/When we implement this, we could put this tip in the sitenotice, so logged-in users will see it and know what to do. But I seriously think it's only an issue for a very small set of users, active translators. Very obviously we need to support their work, so the best solution would be to find a CSS etc trick to make it not work, if you want. pfctdayelise (translate?) 13:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I am on Arnomane's side with this idea... I prefer to have my interface lang English, even though I am a native Hungarian speaker. However, I am convinced that Arnomane and I are some of a relatively few users this might inconvenience. I would favor something akin to pfctdayelise's idea, in that logged-in users could set if the "&uselang=" method would be used for all links (including Lang templates and sidebar), or disable it altogether, allowing their interface language to persist. However, Anon users should get the "&uselang=" links by default, as it does make sense to assume that if an Anon wants to read the Chinese page, they want to be immersed in the Chinese version of the Commons as much as it's possible.

As for the "▫" symbols, I oppose those. It looks like it's just a symbol used to separate links, so Anon users generally expect them not to be clickable. If an Anon click on a "▫" by accident, they will be taken to a language page with an English interface, and they will be wondering what just happened. I like Teofilo's original template, but with an option on one's preferences page (or perhaps even mediawiki.js or css, if that's the easiest way) to remove the "&uselang=" option. Multilinguality is good, but those who wish to opt out should be provided the choice. —UED77 13:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

As for the "▫" symbols, I oppose those. It looks like it's just a symbol used to separate links, so Anon users generally expect them not to be clickable. Yes, I think it's supposed to just look like a separator. We assume that anons (and most users) won't click them. We provide them for logged-in users who are in-the-know (this small band of dedicated translators) so they can use them to "opt out".

If an Anon click on a "▫" by accident, they will be taken to a language page with an English interface, and they will be wondering what just happened. If they click on it by accident, what will happen is what already happens right now - the page content is translated but the menus are in English, the default. pfctdayelise

(translate?) 04:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I can live with this. After all, any effort at i18n and L10n is great. The template with the separators has my support, as well as Teofilo's new {{L}} template. —UED77 20:38, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

At i18n and L10n...? pfctdayelise (translate?) 22:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

w:i18n and w:L10n: Internationalization and Localization :) —UED77 23:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

正體中文

“正體中文”should be changed into“繁體中文”，because简体is also the formal style for Chinese mainland. It is a kind of POV that 繁體 is called 正體 !--3dball 22:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

3dball is probably right, as the article at zh.wp is at zh:繁体中文 (simplified) (==繁體中文 in traditional). But I would want to see what the native Chinese speakers say. pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

How about the word "傳統中文"? it's the word that translated literally. :D --Shinjiman 08:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Since people don't like the links hiding, what about colour highlighting?

Alemannisch | العربية | Aragonés}} | Asturianu | Bahasa Indonesia | Беларуская | Brezhoneg | Български | Català | Česky | Cymraeg | Dansk | Deutsch | Eald Englisc | Eesti | Ελληνικά | Español | English | Español | Esperanto | Euskara | فارسی | Føroyskt | Français | Gaeilge | Galego | ગુજરાતી | 廣東話 | |한국어 | हिन्दी | Hrvatski | Interlingua | Íslenska | Italiano | עברית | ಕನ್ನಡ | Kapampangan | Latine | Lëtzebuergesch | Magyar | Молдовеняскэ | Nederlands | 日本語 | Nedersaksisch (NL) | Norsk (bokmål) | Norsk (nynorsk) | Polski | Português | Română | Русский | Slovenčina | Slovenščina | Српскоhrvatski | Српски | Suomi | Svenska | தமிழ் | ภาษาไทย | Tiếng Việt | Türkçe | 简体中文 | 繁體中文 | + ...

You can change this colour at Template:Highlight. Since there is already yellow in the main page I thought I would try nice to fit it... I looked at some purply-shades, like lavender, but when all the text inside is links it's hard to get contrast. Maybe we could use yellow for highlighting and change the borders on the main page from yellow to green? --pfctdayelise (translate?) 21:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Option 2: group colours together:

Alemannisch I Català I Deutsch I English I Français I Gaeilge I Galego I 廣東話 I Italiano I עברית I Lëtzebuergesch I Magyar I Nederlands I Norsk (bokmål) I Norsk (nynorsk) I Polski I Português I Slovenščina I Suomi I 简体中文 I 繁體中文

العربية | Aragonés | Asturianu | Bahasa Indonesia | Беларуская | Brezhoneg | Български | Česky | Cymraeg | Dansk | Eald Englisc | Eesti | Ελληνικά | Español | Español | Esperanto | Euskara | فارسی | Føroyskt | ગુજરાતી | 한국어 | हिन्दी | Hrvatski | Interlingua | Íslenska | ಕನ್ನಡ | Kapampangan | Latine | Молдовеняскэ | 日本語 | Nedersaksisch (NL) | Română | Русский | Slovenčina | Српскоhrvatski | Српски | Svenska | தமிழ் | ภาษาไทย | Tiếng Việt | Türkçe | + ...

I think I prefer the random method, though. pfctdayelise (translate?) 21:20, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

People don't like hiding links? They keep MP free of clutter. Well, if we must put all links back, I would prefer to have the better translations first, then the older ones, in smaller font.

I'm not saying that the highlighting is bad (although yellow, even if it's already used, would be better than the green), but I think it's a fit "punishment" (<-- might be a bit strong word for the purpose) for those editors who don't translate to their language. Besides, do we really want to promote an outdated translation as "official policy (or project page)"? Probably not. Therefore, I suggest leaving the old langs off this template for now, although I do think a multilingual page would be better as a target of the "+..." link than a small template-looking page. I might demonstrate what I mean by this last point. —UED77 22:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I we should have a more generous attitude to people that write in other languages. The main page has a pretty complicated syntax, and it's not so easy for everyone to simply translate the visible text, when the text is all mixed up with other things. What is most important? That as many people as possible find a decent mainpage in a language they understand? Or that the mainpage looks exactly the same in all "featured" languages? (Yes, I know the other languages are just one click away, but still...) --Boivie 13:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Well this thing was not suddenly: People know since February that the main page has been updated (you can hardly have missed my lots of calls for translation). So I don't see that we weren't generous. By the way people do update main pages now they miss... :-) And well main page code isn't easy but you basically just need to take the structure and fill in your content. This isn't that hard than creating a new page layout. Arnomane 13:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, everyday are potential 400 million+ English-speakers fiddling around at the project pages, but if for example 500,000 speakers of Ossetic (or even more minor languages) aren't able to keep pace, then they must be "punished". But you were very generous, you warned them... --::Slomox:: >< 15:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

What a patented nonsense. Maybe you did never read Commons:Help page maintenance? By the way since Feburary the new main page is online and I do not remove any language that has a minor thing not updated. So your comparison is just plain wrong. Arnomane 16:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Check mark and construction sign

Due to widespread opposition to Arnomane's "hiding links", I've redesigned the template again. This time, the "good", more up-to-date translations and the "bad", outdated translations occupy two different boxes. The good ones are denoted by a green chekmark and are in a light green table, whereas the less recent ones have the construction sign to the left, and the box background is the "potd / motd yellow". For future reference, the appearance at the time of writing:

I hope this version attracts less (ideally no) opposition. If indeed it does, this topic should be the forum for such discussions. However, I hope that this template expresses the distiction between "good" and "less good" versions in an informative, language-independent way, and the separation of the languages, choice of sizes, choice of colors, and choice of order will not be viewed as unfavorable or discriminative :D —UED77 20:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem is now that our main page looks for eternity like a construction site. Don't know how to solve that problem though. Arnomane 01:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand how you choose if a main page is good or less good. I just checked the "good" de and fr and the "less good" eo and I don't feel such a difference. ArnoLagrange 02:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I think that they should divided into updated / non updated Main pages instead. Shinjiman 03:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Please, please, please, remove the check mark and construction sign! They make Main Page look silly. Just hiding the outdated versions completely was better than the current monstrosity. User:dbenbenn 03:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Despite that the hiding did effectively help that people update their local language main page. The result is what is important. Arnomane 09:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep, drop the icons.

If you feel the need to distinguish between old-style and new-style main page (Which I don't really understand: why is it so important to have a language's main page in the exact same design as the English-speaking users decided to have? Why is that result important at all? For example, I didn't "update" the Czech main page before on purpose, I just didn't think it was needed. Then I was "forced" to do that, OK, it didn't take so much time.), use e.g. larger and smaller font. --Mormegil 14:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

If the main objective was to make everyone changing their mainpages to the new design, then the hiding was effective. But if the objective is to make it easy for all kinds of people to find some information about Commons in a language they understand, then the hiding was not that good. --Boivie 15:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

It was not a question of design but simply the fact that the "old style" main pages do not contain any useful up to date information. The content is outdated and most of their link targets now point into nowhere or into something completely different or just pages that are irrelevant nowadays. When I realized that old content I took the opportunity to refresh the look as well. So instead of debating on political correctnes about a very minor issue just start creating content. Arnomane 15:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Can someone define "good" and "need up-to-date" to me? I don't see how different between Thai and English except the new box style. --Manop 15:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry did you even look at the page content??? These two pages display totally different content. The tai page contains information that is very old. And by the way Commons:Help page maintenance which answers your definition question can hardly be missed... Arnomane 15:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the fast response. Now I finished the interface changing now. It would be nice if there is a link in the template above to the Help Page. Thanks. --Manop 16:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Manop 16:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

No signs

Is it better now? —UED77 16:03, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Nice work, UED77. pfctdayelise (translate?) 23:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is better and I think it is the best we can get without being flamed. ;-) I should now again focus on writing and not on talking.... Arnomane 00:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Editing activity of the language communities

I have stored in a table the date of last edit on the main pages in various languages. It shows that most of these pages have been edited at least once in 2006, that they are not left abandoned, and that the "wiki-wiki" principle is working. Here's the link : User:Teofilo/communities. Teofilo 15:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I would strongly dispute that one edit in 5 months => active community. Anyway, I have some related data about community sizes you might be interested in: User talk:Pfctdayelise/Babel. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

That's interesting. I'll probably add a column in my table in order to display the number of users for each babel template. Teofilo 17:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Done. Teofilo 18:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Latin Main Page

I have translated the present english main page into Latin so it is 100% up to date --Argentino 22:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Great work! I moved Latin to the top. —UED77 23:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Kazakh

Please update the template for en:Kazakh language with {{lang url|kk|Басты бет}}

Done. I'm not sure how it should be, but I've put it under the line, because it is not yet translated. --Nux (talk) 14:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Size of Language

Hello. Danish (Dansk) is written in small. Denmark has a population of about 5.5 million. Norway has two languages and a population of 4.6 million. They are both written in big. This doesn't give any sense. If 4.6 million is enough to be in the big section, Danish should be there too. And if it's not, Norway should be moved down.

If you can't cope with any of these solutions, at least move the Nynorsk down. (because it is not used as much as bokmål)

--80.63.213.182 14:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The line only separates languages according to whether or not they have updated their main page to match the latest look and content. Any language that matches can be listed above the line. It is no political thing at all, just about being up to date. pfctdayelise (说什么?) 17:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ahh ok. all right then --80.63.213.182 21:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Lower Saxon / front page upgrades

Is there any particular reason why the NL is included after the Nedersaksisch entry? It looks like the NL corresponds to the language code, not to the Netherlands. If this is the case, shouldn't it be removed?

I was glad to finally find an explanation for the two lists of languages. Does upgrading a frontpage to the new standard also require upgrades to subpages (and in that case, do we have a list of them somewhere?) or is it merely a matter of translating e.g. the existing English frontpage line for line? Valentinian ^(talk) 20:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Btw, I noticed that the Polish front page seems to use the new format but the content seems to differ from similar pages. Is it only the layout or also the content that needs standardization? I'm thinking in terms of how to correctly upgrade the Danish frontpage. The Danish page is essentially a translation of the Norwegian (Bokmål) version with a few categories added on top. Both the Danish and Bokmål versions lack a link to Featured Pictures, but the rest looks rather standard to me. Valentinian ^(talk) 21:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Re "Nedersaksisch (NL)" - in the wikitext, you can see the code is actually NDS-NL. Therefore I assume this NL has some meaning, and I won't remove it. But in general you are right, it is not necessary to put the language code with the name.

For updating a language version, please see Commons:Help page maintenance.

It looks like Polish have chosen to be a bit creative and include some extra info (just a bit) in their main page. I think this is cool and reflects that there is an active Polish speaking community here. "Upgrading" languages above the line is more about having up to date links and look rather than a word for word translation of the English. Does this answer your questions? pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Thanks :) Valentinian ^(talk) 17:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Putting this template at the bottom

Faqja Kryesore (sq) does something interesting -- they have this template, the language bar, near the bottom of their page. I have no problem with this, if other languages want to put it there too. Only English needs it at the top, because it is the default. For other languages... I think it is near impossible to follow a link to the X language Commons main page, if you don't speak language X, so it is not important. :) --pfctdayelise (说什么?) 13:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Volapuk main page

Please add Volapuk to the template, with its main page (Cifapad). Thanks in advance! --Smeira 15:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Need some working for sybchro with English ver.--AlefZet 09:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Waray-Waray main page

Please add Waray-Waray to the template with its main page (Syahan nga Pakli). The native name of the language is Winaray. Thanks in advance! --Harvzsf 01:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Need some working for sybchro with English ver.--AlefZet 09:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Bosnian

Please, insert the bosnian language link. Code is: bs http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Početna_strana --Bosnawi 04:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. ~ putnik 09:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Persian language link

I completely translated it: [3], so I changed the place of it. regards,. --Mrostam 22:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Pages without translation

Now we have only four non-English pages, where most of content at English, and some pages with little problems (e.g. not translated MotD template). Pages with good translation and with problem we may put in one list. And I think it's not good idea that we keep unnecessary line at top of all main pages for 4 untranslated pages. What you think if we hide this links from template and delete line? And if/whem somebody translate one of them, we can put it back into template. ~ putnik 14:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you: this display takes a huge place in the main page, and an extra line emphasizes the 4 untranslated languages, that is the opposite of the wanted effect.

Therefore, I have removed the extra line, using an orange font in order to differentiate the 4 untranslated languages from the other ones. These languages would be removed from the template as well. --Juiced lemon 09:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Please add Quechua

Admins, please add

<!--qu-->[[Qhapaq p'anqa|{{#language:qu}}]]{{·}}

Thanks. -- AlimanRuna 16:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

 Done. ~ putnik 10:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Please add Venetian too

Hi, please add

<!--vec-->[[Pazina prinzipal|{{#language:vec}}]]{{·}}

Thanks. Cocal 20:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

 Done. ~ putnik 10:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Please add Khmer Too

Hi, Please add my language too.

<!--km-->{{nowrap|[[ទំព័រដើម|{{#language:km}}]]}}{{·}}

Thank you, --Kiensvay 01:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

 Done Sorry for the delay. Rocket000 17:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Kiensvay 18:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Kn synchronized

The Kannada page is synchronized. Please convert the gray color to black. Thanks. Shushruth 16:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

 Done done.--Bapti ✉ 20:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Please add Belarusian (in Taraškievica orthography)

Hi, please add

<!--be-tarask-->{{lang|be-tarask|[[Галоўная старонка|{{#language:be-tarask}}]]}}{{·}}

Thanks. --zedlik 17:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done--Bapti ✉ 20:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! --zedlik 21:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Interlingua main page

Dear administrator, please replace

<!--ia-->{{lang|ia|[[Frontispicio|{{#language:ia}}]]}}{{·}}

by

<!--ia-->{{lang|ia|[[Pagina principal|{{#language:ia}}]]}}{{·}}

Thank you very much in advance. Regards, --Julian (talk) 20:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done--Bapti ✉ 20:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Nahuatl main page

Please add: <!--nah-->{{lang|nah|[[Calīxatl|{{#language:nah}}]]}}{{·}}

And by the way, it'd be nice to modify the page's header: it never reads one has to request the addition here.--Fluence (talk) 20:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done--Bapti ✉ 20:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Bengali (bn) Main Page

Dear Sir kindly include Bengali Lang link to MP. [[4]] Abdullah Harun Jewel (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Hello, Please add বাংলা to this template as the Bengali (bn) language main page of the commons.--Bellayet (talk) 17:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Done --Mormegil (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Maltese version of the Main Page

Can you please add the Maltese (mt) version of the Main Page. It is found here: Il-Paġna prinċipali. Thanks Chrisportelli (talk) 18:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done Sorry, I overlooked this. Rocket000 (talk) 23:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

is main page

Could an admin please change the link to the icelandic Main Page to Forsíða/is, because I moved the page to the title that's more usual here. Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 11:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Also, would you change Forsíða/Fo to Forsíða/fo? --The Evil IP address (talk) 11:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done Sorry, I overlooked this too. Rocket000 (talk) 23:40, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Pashto Language Link

Please add a pashto language link to this topic. by adding the following code in a proper alphabetical order.

<!--ps-->{{lang|ps|[[لومړی مخ|{{#language:ps}}]]}}{{·}}

Thanks

--احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل (talk) 00:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done (added it yesterday but forgot to reply here). Rocket000 (talk) 20:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Sort

Sort please Беларуская and Беларуская (тарашкевіца). Thanks. --MaximLitvin (talk) 10:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Update

{{Editprotected}} Hey, I'd like to get rid of {{Lang-mp2}}. It's just unnecessary to have two templates for the same reason. However, there are a few links missing in this template. Would you be able to add them?

• <!--be-->{{lang|be|[[Першая старонка|{{#language:be}}]]}}{{·}} between “ast” and “be-tarask”: Resorted. Kwj2772 (msg) 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
• <!--bn-->{{lang|bn|[[প্রধান পৃষ্ঠা|{{#language:bn}}]]}}{{·}} between “be-tarask” and “id”:  Not done already exists.--Kwj2772 (msg) 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
• <!--nah-->{{lang|nah|[[Calīxatl|{{#language:nah}}]]}}{{·}} between “it” and “pam”:  Not done already exists.--Kwj2772 (msg) 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
• <!--ne-->{{lang|ne|[[गृह पृष्ठ|{{#language:ne}}]]}}{{·}} between “nds-nl” and “ja”:  Done. but under "nah".--Kwj2772 (msg) 06:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. --The Evil IP address (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Mazandarani language

Please Mazandarani language (mzn) can add, page گت ولگ This language is called

Thank you --محک (talk) 12:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

mzn

گت ولگ Name in Template languages should leave مزرونی

--محک (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The displayed name is generated by {{#language:mzn}} which is مازِرونی. Are you saying the MediaWiki translation of the name is incorrect? Rocket000 (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

add bar

Please add the Bavarian language mainpage Hauptsaitn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Labant (talk • contribs)

 Done (Next time, mark your request with {{Editprotected}}.) --Mormegil (talk) 16:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

change vec

{{Editprotected}} Ciao! Please, can you change vec main page to Pajina prinsipałe? Thank you! Candalua (talk) 19:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done, also fixed in MediaWiki:MainPages.js. --The Evil IP address (talk) 19:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Malayalam

{{Editprotected}} Please add "[[പ്രധാന താൾ|മലയാളം]]" as Malayalam language Main Page. Thank you.--Praveenp (talk) 07:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Or perhaps

<!--ml-->{{lang|ml|[[പ്രധാന താൾ|{{#language:ml}}]]}}{{·}}

;-)--Praveenp (talk) 07:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 10:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Change Request

{{editprotected}} Can an admin add the Scots mainpage? :) <!--sco-->{{lang|sco|[[Scots Commons|{{#language:sco}}]]}}{{·}}
Thanks! sısɐuuǝɔıʌ∀ (paroli) 22:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done --Mormegil (talk) 15:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

add sw

Please someone add the mp @ Mwanzo for Kiswahili (sw). CGN2010 (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Small error

Please edit In the HTML comments that help users decipher which language is which, "hr" is listed twice, with the latter a mistake for "hy". Please edit this template to correct this oversight. Thanks. Koavf (talk) 09:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Azeri language

A new main page in that language has been started by someone (as a stub) with the title Ana Səhifə (main page in az). If you retain it is a valid page, could you add on the list? This is the correct form: [[Ana Səhifə|Azərbaycanca]]

PS: I'm trying to translate the (few) content: "Qax (Şəkillər)" may be en:Qakh Rayon, "Qax şəhəri" is en:Qakh (city) and "İlisu kəndi" is en:İlisu.

If you think it is redundant or meaningless, of course, delete it. I've found it on the uncategorized pages and by now i'm trying to fix something. But i don't speak Azeri. Thanx and greetings .--Локомотив 22:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Picard language

Someone create the main page in picard language. If you think it's valid, can you add it to the template : [[Pache picarte|Picard]].

Ju gatsu mikka (^o^) appelez moi Ju (^o^) 17:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Mormegil (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Malagasy

I have translated the Main page of Commons in malagasy, can this template be updated please ? --Jagwar (talk) 10:44, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

PS : the main page is Fandraisana

 Done --Mormegil (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

New Tamil Main page

I've translated the main page of commons in Tamil (acc. to Current view of Commons). But Tamil has already an older version of translations with so many errors.

<!--ta-->{{lang|ta|[[முதன்மைப் பக்கம்|{{#language:ta}}]]}}

Please change the line as follows,

<!--ta-->{{lang|ta|[[முதற் பக்கம்|{{#language:ta}}]]}}

And please delete the page முதன்மைப் பக்கம். --Surya Prakash.S.A. (talk) 13:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC) {{editprotected}}

 Done --Mormegil (talk) 07:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you friend. :) --Surya Prakash.S.A. (talk) 08:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Nds-nl: veurpagina > veurblad

Can someone change this? Thanks in advance. Servien (talk) 15:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Still needs to be changed ... Servien (talk) 13:53, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done Next time, mark your request with {{Edit protected}} so that an admin can spot it. --Mormegil (talk) 16:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Main page in Ossetic

I have left a request on MediaWiki talk:MainPages.js. But it seems I should to do it here. So sorry for duplicate. Please add page title for Ossetian language. The title is Сæйраг фарс. Language code is 'os'.--Bouron (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Template added In the hopes that it will get someone's attention. Koavf (talk) 17:40, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done

@Koavf: D’oh! Next time, {{Edit protected}} is the correct template to use, {{Requested translations}} is definitely not a good tool for this.

--Mormegil (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Frisian/Frysk

Please add Frisian. Thank you! Kind regards --Kening Aldgilles (talk) 09:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done (Next time, use {{Editprotected}} to mark the request.) --Mormegil (talk) 10:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Please add Banjar language

Hi, please add

<!--bjn-->{{lang|bjn|{{nowrap|[[Tungkaran Tatambaian|{{#language:bjn}}]]}}}}{{·}}

Thanks. Riemogerz ^talk 13:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for your translation. Your help is appreciated. Next time, please use {{Editprotected}} to mark the request. -- RE rillke questions? 14:06, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Please add Zazaki language

Hi, please add

<!--diq-->{{lang|diq|{{nowrap|[[Pela Seri|{{#language:diq}}]]}}}}{{·}}

Thanks. --Erdemaslancan (talk) 14:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Next time, add {{Editprotected}} here to call attention to the request. --Mormegil (talk) 09:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Please add Upper Sorbian

The link would be Hornjoserbsce, language code is hsb. Thanks! -- j.budissin^+/- 23:09, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done --32X (talk) 16:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Please add zh-min-nan language

Hi, please add

<!--nan-->{{lang|zh-min-nan|[[Thâu-ia̍h|{{#language:nan}}]]}}{{·}}

Thanks. Ianbu (talk) 15:03, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Trijnstel_talk 12:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Destpêk/Main Page ku

Please add the Kurdish version translated by me:

<!--ku-->{{lang|ku|{{nowrap|[[Destpêk|{{#language:ku}}]]}}}}{{·}}

--George Animal (talk) 17:13, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Trijnstel_talk 12:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

SO.

Soomaaliga

 ·

<!--so-->{{lang|so|[[Bogga Hore|{{#language:so}}]]}}{{·}}

--Abshirdheere (talk) 08:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Please add Javanese

Please add for Javanese. Empu (talk) 14:55, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

<!--jv-->{{lang|jv|{{nowrap|[[Kaca Utama|{{#language:jv}}]]}}}}{{·}}

Belarusian

<!--be-->{{lang|be|[[Першая старонка|{{#language:be}}]]}}{{·}}
<!--be-tarask-->{{lang|be-tarask|{{nowrap|[[Галоўная старонка|{{#language:be-tarask}}]]}}}}{{·}}

fix on

<!--be-->{{lang|be|[[Галоўная старонка|{{#language:be}}]]}}{{·}}
<!--be-tarask-->{{lang|be-tarask|{{nowrap|[[Галоўная старонка (тарашкевіца)|{{#language:be-tarask}}]]}}}}{{·}}

--Чаховіч Уладзіслаў (talk) 07:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

There is no community decision on this. Please not change anything now. —zedlik (talk) 10:13, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Neapolitan

I have translated the Main page of Commons in Neapolitan, so can someone add this language to this template?

Thank you. --Chelin (talk) 10:04, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Avar

{{Edit request}} Please add link to Avar version as

<!--av-->{{lang|av|[[БетӀераб гьумер|{{#language:av}}]]}}{{·}}

This version is up to date.--Kaganer (talk) 22:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done INeverCry 20:23, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Punjabi (ਪੰਜਾਬੀ) (pa)

{{Edit request}} please add Punjabi (ਪੰਜਾਬੀ) (pa) link to this template, a punjabi version page is created ਮੁੱਖ ਸਫ਼ਾ ---Sushilmishra (talk) 01:06, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Already done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Bhojpuri (भोजपुरी) (bh)

{{Edit request}} please add Bhojpuri (भोजपुरी) (bh) link to this template, a Bhojpuri version page is created मुख्य पन्ना---Sushilmishra (talk) 23:18, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Already done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

add odia/oriya

{{Edit request}} add Odia/Oriya. code - or. link - ପ୍ରଧାନ ପୃଷ୍ଠା (main page).--Shiti (talk) 09:13, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

add

<!--or--><bdi>{{lang|or|[[ପ୍ରଧାନ ପୃଷ୍ଠା|{{#language:or}}]]}}</bdi>

--Shiti (talk) 08:36, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Already done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:15, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

please add Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄ (cdo)

{{Edit request}}

please add the Main Page of Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄ (cdo):

<!--cdo-->{{lang|cdo|{{nowrap|[[Tàu-hiĕk|{{#language:cdo}}]]}}}}{{·}}

--El caballero de los Leones (talk) 15:40, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done by Steinsplitter. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 05:26, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add sicilianu (scn)

Hello the Commons staff,

Could you please add "scn" to this template?

Pàggina principali is the Sicilian language version of the Main page (language code is scn and language name is sicilianu).

•  <!--scn--><bdi>{{lang|scn|[[Pàggina principali|{{#language:scn}}]]}}</bdi> 

The Sicilian content is here: User:Sarvaturi/Pàggina principali, please move it to Pàggina principali.

I have written too a message to the administrator AnRo0002. Many thanks in advance.

Have a good day!

--Sarvaturi (talk) 14:37, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

@Blackcat, Poco a poco, Pymouss, Steinsplitter: Could we get an Italian speaker to verify that the content is good and in line with our policies? The languages look to be reasonably similar enough to do a spot check. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:35, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

There are red links on the mainpage. --Steinsplitter (talk) 10:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Magog, I normally speak plain Italian and come from Rome, am not accustomed to Sicilian vernacule, thus I cannot be helpful. I post the matter to an Italian wikipedian who comes from Sicily. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 14:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Not even a spot check? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:23, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

@Sarvaturi: I give up. This is done. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:12, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

@Magog the Ogre: Hi, thank you very much! Best regards. --Sarvaturi (talk) 11:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Sinhala (si) link

Why using gray colour for Sinhala (සිංහල) link? it is 100% up to date and totally translated so please change it like other links. Thanks. -- 1100100 (talk) 04:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, Thanks for reporting! --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:35, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Western Balochi

Hello please add Western Balochi language <!--bgn-->{{lang|bgn|[[بُنیادی تاکدیم|{{#language:bgn}}]]}} . Thank you.--Ibrahim khashrowdi (talk) 13:02, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

please add Hak-kâ-ngî (hak)

{{Edit request}}

please add the Main Page of Hak-kâ-ngî (hak):

<!--hak-->{{lang|hak|{{nowrap|[[Thèu-ya̍p|{{#language:hak}}]]}}}}{{·}}

--El caballero de los Leones (talk) 17:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Add Udmurt

Please add the link to Udmurt version:

* <!--udm--><bdi>{{lang|udm|[[Кутскон бам|{{#language:udm}}]]}}</bdi>

--Wadorgurt (talk) 01:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 04:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Add ko-kp

{{Edit request}} please add the Main Page of Korean(DPRK;North)[한국어(조선)]:

* <!--ko-kp--><bdi>{{lang|ko-kp|[[한국어(조선)|{{#language:ko-kp}}]]}}</bdi>

--YuanhuaMu (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 04:39, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Add Tajik

Please add the link to Tajik version:

* <!--tg--><bdi>{{Lang-mp-loader|tg|Саҳифаи Аслӣ}}</bdi> — Preceding unsigned comment added by VASHGIRD (talk • contribs) 03:05, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

 Done Awesome! Thanks! --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 22:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Update sq

{{Editprotected}} Please change sq to:

* <!--sq-->{{Lang-mp-loader|sq|Faqja kryesore}}

--Olsi (talk) 20:20, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thank you! -- User: Perhelion 01:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Add Lojban

{{Editprotected}} * <!--jbo-->{{Lang-mp-loader|jbo|Ralju Ckupau}}KATMAKROFAN (talk) 19:18, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@KATMAKROFAN and Lojbanist: The translation seems not complete. Happy to perform this change once the translation is ready. Best --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:03, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

ko-kp

{{Edit request}}

• 한국어 (조선) → 조선말

• Reason: phab:T190324

Thanks. --Garam _talk 04:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@-revi: Can you confirm this? --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:01, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

LGTM. — regards, Revi 14:02, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

one more {

{{Edit request}} Please, edit this string: <!--udm-->{Lang-mp-loader|udm|Кутскон бам}} Анастасия Львова^ru (ru-n, en-2) 13:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@Lvova: Fixed, thanks! --Steinsplitter (talk) 14:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add Burmese

{{Edit request}} Could someone please add Burmese Mainpage: ဗဟိုစာမျက်နှာ, Language name: မြန်မာဘာသာ Thanks. Ninja✮Strikers ^«☎» 13:15, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done--Steinsplitter (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Change the language code used for Norwegian Bokmål

{{Edit request}} Currently the template displays norsk ('Norwegian') for Norwegian Bokmål, which is incorrect. The language code used in the template for Norwegian Bokmål should be changed from no to nb to ensure that the correct name is displayed (which is norsk bokmål; relevant phabricator tickets: T173602 and T174160).

I.e. this line should be changed: * <!--no-->{{Lang-mp-loader|no|Hovedside}} --Njardarlogar (talk) 20:46, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Also cf. Template:Languages on Wikidata. --Njardarlogar (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done nb: currently redirects to no:. The first phab ticket you mentioned was rejected and the second is still active. Until those are resolved changing the language code here will cause issues for people who are using mediawiki's current settings. --Majora (talk) 14:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@Majora: What issues would those be? There is no no option in the language settings, only nb and nn; and as mentioned, this edit will bring the template in line with the template on Wikidata. --Njardarlogar (talk) 09:28, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Sardinian

{{Edit request}} Please add Sardinian (Language name: "sardu", ISO code: "sc") to the list. The name of the new Main Page is Pàgina printzipale.--L2212 (talk) 08:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done 4nn1l2 (talk) 23:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much!--L2212 (talk) 07:04, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Edit request - extra bullet

{{Edit protected}}

* <span class="nuke" style="display:none"><!-- edit link -->{{edit|Template:Lang-mp}}</span>

results in a bullet with no text following it. Please remove the entry (since the css already specifies that it is hidden).

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:31, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Hey DannyS, the link is needed and there is no syntactic fault in displaying an empty li entry. Instead. I removed the first li entry (needless: Romanian page), which in fact gives me a validating warning. -- User: Perhelion 10:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Perhelion: if you look at the bottom of the main page, there is an extra bullet point as a result of the inclusion --DannyS712 (talk) 15:24, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

DannyS you mean as single line? Which resolution you have? I can't confirm this in any resolution and logged out. In fact there is no easy solution to solve this and I don't see the problem here, sorry. -- User: Perhelion 15:28, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Perhelion: I mean that there is a floating bullet point after "Bân-lâm-gú" (not on a line by itself, just at the end of the line) --DannyS712 (talk) 15:47, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712 and Perhelion: class="nuke" makes it display for admins, but only for admins (take a look at it logged out to see the problem if you’re an admin). The best I could come up with is

* <!--zh-min-nan-->{{Lang-mp-loader|zh-min-nan|Thâu-ia̍h}}
<div class="nukeblock" style="display:none"><!-- edit link -->{{edit|Template:Lang-mp}}</div>
</div>

It looks a bit ugly for admins (the edit link gets its own line), but great for the other 99.99% of users. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 08:26, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done I used a kind of hack to solve this (used also on {{Lang-mp/bar}}). Thanks DannyS712 and Tacsipacsi for bringing this up again. (Technically it should not be a fully identical point but fully sufficient.) -- User: Perhelion 09:51, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Move zh-hans and zh-hant to zh

{{Edit protected}} The village pump for both zh-hans and zh-hant have been move to zh for a cohesive Chinese experience and reduce redundancy for translation to both language variant. Now the zh-hans main page have turned on the language converter so it can display both zh-hans and zh-hant. Because of this, please change the following line:

* <!--zh-hans-->{{Lang-mp-loader|zh-hans|首页}}
* <!--zh-hant-->{{Lang-mp-loader|zh-hant|首頁}}

to

* <!--zh-->{{Lang-mp-loader|zh|首页}}

I will put a redirect on zh-hant version after this edit protected request has been fulfilled. Thank you. --VulpesVulpes825 (talk) 22:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done 4nn1l2 (talk) 00:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Add Wikimedia Commons Sindhi main page in this template

Hi, Kindly add *

سنڌي

[5] JogiAsad (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Add Javanese

{{Edit protected}} Hi, I just translate the Main Page into Javanese. Can you add the Javanese page to the list, please?

* <!--jv-->{{Lang-mp-loader|jv|Kaca Utama}}

Thank you. Labdajiwa (talk) 22:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Silesian

{{Editprotected}}

Hello, I changed the method of transcribing on the Silesian main page (code: szl) into a newer one, could someone please change the link to Silesian main page to "Przodniŏ zajta" in this template? --Psiŏczek (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

If an administrator notices this… —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:59, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

When you click on the Wikimedia Commons logo while having a Silesian language set up, it already led you to "Przodniŏ zajta" and not "Przodńo zajta", so finding the main page was basically impossible. Also, the same form of writing is already used on Silesian Wikipedia: https://szl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przodniŏ_zajta --Psiŏczek (talk) 17:26, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Request to add Telugu language to the list of languages

Hi
Can someone please add the Telugu page to the list of languages? Thanks in advance. -- Mouryan (talk) 07:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC) @Mouryan:  Done Thanks for the info! --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 01:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Changes on jv

{{Editprotected}} Hi, I need admin help to change the Javanese page from "Kaca Utama" to "Pendhapa". As per voting on jvwiki, the term of mainpage is renamed to "Pendhapa". Thank you. Labdajiwa (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done Awesome! Thank you! Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 01:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Balinese

{{Edit request}} Page "Kaca Utama" used for Balinese version. Please add, Thank you.

Chinamoonroll (talk) 08:15, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Done, thanks. --99of9 (talk) 01:29, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

ko-kp

{{Edit request}} Please change the link for ko-kp from 조선말 to 첫페지.--Namoroka (talk) 09:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done. -- CptViraj (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Uzbek

{{Edit request}} Page Bosh sahifa used for Uzbek (oʻzbekcha) version. Please add. Malikxan ^talk 08:49, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

require('strict')

{{Edit protected}} As per the new lua feature mentioned at m:Tech/News/2022/42, could require('Module:No globals') be replaced with require('strict') at Module:MainPages -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done Awesome! Thank you! —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)