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Archivo equvocado, y se debe eliminar de imediato. Jeff Promo (talk) 01:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Porque este archivo se trata de mi y lo he creado yo, por eso quiero eliminarlo. Payen Peterson (talk) 06:07, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Archivo equivocado, debe eliminar de imediato Jeff Promo (talk) 02:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: No author, no source, no license. --Achim55 (talk) 06:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Debe ser borrado porque el propietario no quiere que este en internet. Kervenspierre (talk) 00:17, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Redeleted. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:04, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
fake not real Asmrlinastar (talk) 04:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
im sorry IsaaAli (talk) 05:20, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Mistakenly used wrong image Indrani Samadder (talk) 05:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Mistakenly used wrong image. Indrani Samadder (talk) 05:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Mistakenly used wrong image. Indrani Samadder (talk) 05:41, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 06:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Reasons for deletion request -Radvj (talk) 06:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC) It’s my own personal pic, I want to remove it from Wikipedia commons
Not done: Procedural close: This file is hosted on en:wp, ask there for deletion. --Achim55 (talk) 06:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
heni yuwono Rickyputrar (talk) 07:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
NOT AUTHOR Rickyputrar (talk) 07:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Uploader's request. --Achim55 (talk) 08:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Picture make in France of a work from Pablo Picasso — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siren-Com (talk • contribs) 09:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Delete per COM:FOP France. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Yann (talk) 17:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NLmg6kOt4g Εὐθυμένης (talk) 14:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Yann (talk) 20:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Found here https://www.mondodr.com/mike-blackman-ise/ and others. Needs OTRS Gbawden (talk) 14:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Empty page. Probably a mistake. JopkeB (talk) 15:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Empty page. Not clear what should be in it, since the parent category is also empty. JopkeB (talk) 15:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've tagged it as empty to get it deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 16:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Túrelio (talk) 19:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
False authorship and an exact duplicate of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sinking_Cap_Trafalgar.jpg Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 16:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Screenshots of non-free OSes (Windows 10 and Windows 7) HolyNetworkAdapter (talk) 18:56, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, DW. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
License issue FullScale4Me (talk) 21:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, speedied per G7. --Túrelio (talk) 07:27, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
I uploaded it by mistake Bastianpapa (talk) 22:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: & LTA uploader blocked indef. --Achim55 (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Reason: it's not PD. Information about its licencne unknown. Regards, tyk (talk) 20:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Speedy delete per https://archivomunicipal.malaga.eu/ . — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 00:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Túrelio (talk) 07:53, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Out of scope Trade (talk) 00:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 20:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
No evidence of notability Dronebogus (talk) 01:04, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete No, no evidence is provided, but the bottom line is that images with watermarks are per se inadmissible, anyway. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 20:42, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Sowadzaman (talk · contribs)
[edit]Personal images that are outside the scope of this project
Herby talk thyme 07:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 20:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Unused personal image, out of project scope. Nanahuatl (talk) 22:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 20:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Unused personal iamge, out of project scope. Nanahuatl (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 20:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
created by mistake Dans (talk) 08:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, was just a file page with no file, created a few days ago. --Rosenzweig τ 13:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Иной автор Ил Т (talk) 21:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, as requested by the uploader shortly after upload. --Rosenzweig τ 17:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Out of Commons:Project scope: Unused text documents of questionable notability. Should be moved as wiki-text to relevant project if useful.
- File:Публикации научных статей.pdf
- File:Математические формулы.pdf
- File:Патенты и изобретения.pdf
- File:Научные открытия.pdf
EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:29, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:09, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Orphan images. Remnants of a self-promotional activities. Wiki is not a hosting or a PR channel.
- File:Публикации научных статей.pdf
- File:Математические формулы.pdf
- File:Патенты и изобретения.pdf
- File:Научные открытия.pdf
- File:Алексей Николаевич в детстве.jpg
- File:Белашов Алексей.jpg
Bilderling (talk) 07:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:09, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Pocitacovypracovnik (talk · contribs)
[edit]Out of scope:Personal fantasy (in minecraft)
Enyavar (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Shitol roy (talk · contribs)
[edit]Out of scope, personal photos. File:Annadanagar railway station.jpg was placed in d:Q60473950, but this is not how a railway station looks like. Two other files were placed in Category:Samsung A502, but these do not look like a Samsung device.
- File:Sr 5.jpg
- File:Sr 4.jpg
- File:Brother --Debashees,Partho, Shitol♥♥♥.jpg
- File:Brother ;-Debashees, Partho, Shitol♥♥♥.jpg
- File:Brother --Debashees, Partho, Shitol♥♥♥.jpg
- File:Sr 3.jpg
- File:SR 10.jpg
- File:SR 9.jpg
- File:SR 8.jpg
- File:SR 7.jpg
- File:SR 6.jpg
- File:SR 5.jpg
- File:SR 4.jpg
- File:SR 3.jpg
- File:SR 2.jpg
- File:Abcd 3.jpg
- File:Abcd 2.jpg
- File:Gfc.jpg
- File:Hvsb.jpg
- File:Dhcdhc.jpg
- File:HAPPY AND COOL.jpg
- File:Gdx.jpg
- File:Rtu 2.jpg
- File:20220503 175150ss.jpg
- File:Annadanagar railway station.jpg
- File:How far is it,--Find the destination this way,--At the end of the day, the afternoon is coming to an end, and after a few days, it will be dark. - Time.jpg
- File:Shitol.jpg
JopkeB (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Shitol roy (talk · contribs)
[edit]Commons is not your personal free photo album, see also Special:DeletedContributions/Shitol roy. No contributions to wm projects.
- File:Replicate-prediction-47hhhvtb3frqvuyjnjqbuhzcqe s17.jpg
- File:Replicate-prediction-ln4ce6lbra4igr762sobh24fgi s16.jpg
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- File:IMG-20230209-WA0007 sr22.jpg
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Achim55 (talk) 17:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Niklas Schulze231 (talk · contribs)
[edit]Out of scope? Personal images. What use might these files have for others? How can these files be reused? For me they seem useless. I cannot think of any purpose.
- File:68 Berichtsheft Niklas.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 98.jpg
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- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 94.jpg
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- File:90 Berichtsheft Niklas.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 66.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 60.jpg
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- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 17.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 12.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 15.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 9.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 1.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 4.jpg
- File:Berichtsheft Niklas 7.jpg
JopkeB (talk) 12:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:21, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Out of Commons:Project scope: Unused trivial logo. Should be in SVG if useful. EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:20, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
out of project scope - non encyclopedically relevant person. Used for promo on nl-wiki Hoyanova (talk) 14:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:20, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
blatantly self promotional Velella (talk) 16:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:19, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Atanu Mete (talk · contribs)
[edit]out of scope
Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Out of scope: Fantasy maps Enyavar (talk) 20:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by EmirKılıçerOfficial (talk · contribs)
[edit]Out of scope: Personal fantasy
- File:Islamic republic of Germanistan - Flag.png
- File:Islamic Republic of Germanistan - Flag.png
- File:Alternative European Union (Independent Germanistan).png
- File:Germanistan İslam Cumhuriyeti Haritası.png
- File:Germanistan Flag.jpg
Enyavar (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --George Chernilevsky talk 18:13, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Picture is not used anywhere, Sonny Perseil isn't an admissible subject for Wikipedia Durifon (talk) 14:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: out of project scope. --George Chernilevsky talk 06:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
This chemical structure image does not adequately represent the polymeric nature of this chemical. Plus the text is oddly tilted. We have File:Poly(p-phenylene-2,6-benzobisoxazole).svg as a correct high quality alternative that can be used instead. Marbletan (talk) 13:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Leyo 08:54, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Non-commercial licence. FunkMonk (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
duplicate of File:MTB World Cup Albstadt 2017 Women Elite.jpg Schwede66 02:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Watermarking and low resolution suggest this is not the uploader’s work. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 07:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
There is no indication that Vice (who owns I-D) has released this image under the stated license, as the photo is on their website and their website is copyrighted as Vice Media. Netherzone (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 07:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Dubious own-work claims. The black bar atop these images suggest that these are screenshots from an unspecified source.
✗plicit 03:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
The file has been made redundant by File:CA-BC road sign W-038-1.svg YoungstownToast (talk) 04:05, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, unused. --Wdwd (talk) 07:46, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Dubious copyright claim due to low resolution and lack of metadata. A version of this image was used on another website prior to the upload to Commons. Ixfd64 (talk) 05:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Derivative work of possibly non-free file; see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Nahuelito.jpg. Ixfd64 (talk) 05:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, I didn't know.--Carnby (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:49, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
likely copyvio: date of the photo (2021) is incorrect, only upload by the user, photo has been on the internet at least since 2018 (https://www.abc.com.py/edicion-impresa/suplementos/abc-revista/citas--hechos-1684910.html / https://www.abc.com.py/resizer/JQbbPRbcpyWAwEdfmXzRHHhNUIc=/fit-in/770x495/smart/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-abccolor.s3.amazonaws.com/public/ZWSW6HSQJRG6JIKZOWJF2I6NPU.jpg) Magnus (talk) 05:41, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
The source is a book published in 2020. There is no indication that this image and the ones listed below were ever published under a free licence.
- File:Viktor Rogy, Readymade mit Krankenkassenbrille (Selbstportrait), Fotocredit Wilfried Koffer 1980.jpg
- File:Viktor Rogy, Goldene Maske (Selbstportrait), Metallguss vergoldet, zirka 1980, Fotocredit Wolfgang Koch 2019.jpg Hangman'sDeath (talk) 05:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 08:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
(Self?)Portrait of Tom F. Lange. There is no indication that thzis image was ever published under a free licence by the author (whoever it is) Hangman'sDeath (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 08:06, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Factual Fact Factor as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: This content need to be deleted because it contain original research and blatantly misleading, the official language of the Republic of Indonesia is Indonesian not Malay. Furthermore, there's no such thing as Malaysian language, the official language of Malaysia is Malay (Malaysian Malay to be precise).
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion, as needed for such issues. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Túrelio: And also (to add some more detailed information), the Malay-speaking regions are not that wide, its only spoken in eastern Sumatra and its adjacent regions, these file probably the one that shows the real distribution map of Malay language:
, but that file also has an error, some regions are painted as dark blue (especially in Borneo) while in reality Malay language isn't massively spoken, and also the light blue one is kinda incorrect, because in South Sumatra and Bangka Belitung Islands (as well as the Central Thailand) the language spoken there isn't Malay. Furthermore, there's a little dot of island of Philippines, the language spoken there is Tausug not Malay, and also the little dot in the Indian Ocean (southwest of Sumatra island) the language spoken there is belonging to Betawi language not Malay, the locals called it Bhase Betawi Pulu Kokos (literally means "the Betawi language of Cocos Islands"). (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 08:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
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Keep Original research is not a valid reason for deletion. If there are factual inaccuracies with this map, then it can always be adjusted, but deletion is not the solution. Back to OP's original reason for deletion, this one's kind of a hard one. There are many dialects spoken in rural areas that significantly differ from standard Malay spoken in KL and the Malay taught in all Malay public schools – it's quite difficult to factor that in on a map, but I'll leave that to someone who knows more about Malay than I do. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- "There are many dialects spoken in rural area", yea but where rural areas? the main problem here is these Kwamikagami user painted the whole Indonesia as if it was spoken all over Indonesia. Let me tell you somethinh, the Malay language is an ethnic language ONLY SPOKEN (and practiced) by the Malay ethnic group community, with the regions of Riau and Riau Islands being the main one where these language spoken. Other than that, Malay language isn't spoken, there are over 1,300 ethnic groups in Indonesia who speak their own respective ethnic languages, claiming it all as "Malay" is a blatant idiotic and ignorant idea. These claim made by Malaysians has become a never ending issue, even the politicians of Indonesia have to speak up about this ridiculous claim, and how dare it is normalized in Wikimedia? I hope Wikimedia could provide more non-biased contents and non POV-pushing contents. I hope my request to build more friendly environment in Wikimedia or Wikipedia community could be considered or seen as a constructive and collaborative effort to mediate the upcoming hatred against Malaysians that gonna rise after this. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 11:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- @Factual Fact Factor: Right, but you've completely missed my first point and that does not change my argument nor opinion. I suggest you read COM:INUSE and COM:SCOPE – does it fall into one of these two categories? Yes it does – it does the job perfectly fine on various Wikimedia projects. I suggest you cease your personal attacks because you're really not "build[ing a] more friendly environment" – you're doing the opposite. SHB2000 (talk) 10:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- "There are many dialects spoken in rural area", yea but where rural areas? the main problem here is these Kwamikagami user painted the whole Indonesia as if it was spoken all over Indonesia. Let me tell you somethinh, the Malay language is an ethnic language ONLY SPOKEN (and practiced) by the Malay ethnic group community, with the regions of Riau and Riau Islands being the main one where these language spoken. Other than that, Malay language isn't spoken, there are over 1,300 ethnic groups in Indonesia who speak their own respective ethnic languages, claiming it all as "Malay" is a blatant idiotic and ignorant idea. These claim made by Malaysians has become a never ending issue, even the politicians of Indonesia have to speak up about this ridiculous claim, and how dare it is normalized in Wikimedia? I hope Wikimedia could provide more non-biased contents and non POV-pushing contents. I hope my request to build more friendly environment in Wikimedia or Wikipedia community could be considered or seen as a constructive and collaborative effort to mediate the upcoming hatred against Malaysians that gonna rise after this. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 11:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Keep There appears to be confusion as to what this is a map of. The PNG map is where Malay is a native language, and the SVG map is where it's an official language. Cf. similar maps for Russian, English, French, Urdu ('Hindi') etc. and you'll see similar differences. FFF, if you have any evidence of errors on the SVG map, I'd be happy to see them.
- As for what appears to be the source of this objection, of course Indonesian is Malay. It's a Malay standard based on the same Malacca-Johor dialect that Malaysian Malay is. The Malaysian and Indonesian standards are closer than the various Malay dialects of Malaya are to each other, and no-one has a problem calling most of them "Malay". Much more similar than the various varieties of "Malay" that are scattered across Indonesia. The situation for Malay proper is quite similar to Serbian and Croatian being a single language, or MSHindi and Urdu. Claiming that Indonesian is not Malay is like saying that "American" is not English. True, the name in Indonesia is "Indonesian", but that's a legal fiction, like calling Tagalog "Filipino". (A judge finally had to rule that Tagalog and Filipino were the same language and that you couldn't get a court-appointed translator if you spoke Tagalog.) A change in name is not a change in language.
- As for what should be dark blue and what light on the PNG map, that's a more difficult question. It's like trying to decide whether Scots is English. Indeed, the dark blue in Sarawak would appear to be Iban, which IMO at best should be light blue and perhaps not on the map at all. But this thread isn't about that map.
- Minor point: Malaysia has vacillated on whether its official language is "Malay" or "Malaysian". When they called it "Malaysian", it was indeed the "Malaysian language". But FFF is correct, "Malaysian" is not a distinct language -- any more than Indonesian is. Anyone who's learned the language in one country and then used it in the other can attest to that. Kwamikagami (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- But here is the thing, the Malay language isn't even the official language of Indonesia, how dare you to painted the whole Indonesian region as blue as if it was even spoken by Indonesians other than Malay ethnic group? Are y'all Malaysians really that desperate to claim Indonesian population as the Malay speakers so it gonna appeared as 300 million? meanwhile the 290 million itself is the Indonesian population, duh. Malay language serves as one of recognized minority language in Indonesia not the official national language, did you even understand the point right here? And btw Indonesia IS NOT Malay language, the Malay language itself originated from Indonesia but it isn't "Indonesian language" itself. And your statement "no-one has a problem calling most of them "Malay"" is clearly self-proclaimed and clueless, try to come to Indonesia and say that word to their face "Indonesian is Malay!" and let's see if you gonna still alive or not, because fyi your lunatic claim is not gonna survive in real life. The REAL MALAY people in Sumatra didn't even claim Indonesian language as Malay and how dare you a copypaste group of so-called 'Malay Malaysians' claim it as Malay? are you even logically sober? Furthermore, Indonesian having similarity doesn't mean the same, all languages under the Austronesian family bear similar features, and that's what you're talking about when you compared it to European languages. And btw no Filipinos called their language as "Filipino", it's Tagalog, the terminology of "Filipino" itself first appeared on Wikipedia started by lunatic user like you. And one last thing, Malaysian goverment trying so hard to copy how Indonesia governed themselves but y'all forget in the constitution itself the official language of Malaysia is "Malay language" not lunatic manmade so-called "mAlAySiAn LaNgUagE". Plus, I'm the native speaker of Indonesian, you might fool those foreigners, but no.. you can't fool me, I understood these matter deep down to my bone. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 11:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- So, your argument is that you're a nationalist bigot?
- Indonesia and Malaysia even coordinate on the orthography of their shared official language. As you well know. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- But here is the thing, the Malay language isn't even the official language of Indonesia, how dare you to painted the whole Indonesian region as blue as if it was even spoken by Indonesians other than Malay ethnic group? Are y'all Malaysians really that desperate to claim Indonesian population as the Malay speakers so it gonna appeared as 300 million? meanwhile the 290 million itself is the Indonesian population, duh. Malay language serves as one of recognized minority language in Indonesia not the official national language, did you even understand the point right here? And btw Indonesia IS NOT Malay language, the Malay language itself originated from Indonesia but it isn't "Indonesian language" itself. And your statement "no-one has a problem calling most of them "Malay"" is clearly self-proclaimed and clueless, try to come to Indonesia and say that word to their face "Indonesian is Malay!" and let's see if you gonna still alive or not, because fyi your lunatic claim is not gonna survive in real life. The REAL MALAY people in Sumatra didn't even claim Indonesian language as Malay and how dare you a copypaste group of so-called 'Malay Malaysians' claim it as Malay? are you even logically sober? Furthermore, Indonesian having similarity doesn't mean the same, all languages under the Austronesian family bear similar features, and that's what you're talking about when you compared it to European languages. And btw no Filipinos called their language as "Filipino", it's Tagalog, the terminology of "Filipino" itself first appeared on Wikipedia started by lunatic user like you. And one last thing, Malaysian goverment trying so hard to copy how Indonesia governed themselves but y'all forget in the constitution itself the official language of Malaysia is "Malay language" not lunatic manmade so-called "mAlAySiAn LaNgUagE". Plus, I'm the native speaker of Indonesian, you might fool those foreigners, but no.. you can't fool me, I understood these matter deep down to my bone. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 11:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Delete The map created by Kwamikagami is blatantly lunatic, POV-pushing, and also appears to be redundant (per COM:Redundant) since the existing file of File:Idioma malayo.png to represent the so-called "Malay sphere" already exist. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 11:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- You're being ridiculous. That map covers a different topic, as you're obviously aware. You're arguing in bad faith to push your own agenda. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:21, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep It looks okay to me. I mean, it's not perfect, considering that it relies on national borders, but I guess that was the point (only depicting official recognition?). A map of where Malay (whether it is Malay proper or a Malayic variety) is commonly spoken would include all of Malaysia, Indonesia, but also East Timor, some areas of Papua New Guinea close to the Indonesian border etc. Indeed, the map can be considered inaccurate, but only if you equate Malay with the language of ethnic Malays or Malaysia, overlooking its usage as a lingua franca (Indonesian, Manado Malay, Ambonese Malay...). All things considered, I think it's a decent depiction of the countries where Malay has had a significant amount of influence, as an official or trade language. There's no POV, it's all neutral linguistic facts. Jangan malu-maluin Indonesia dong... Megfãs (talk) 13:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- There is difference between "Malay" and "Malayic", both term didn't work synonymously. English is Germanic, so according to your idiotic statement English could be reckleclessly included in the "German sphere"? the answer is no, because English is seperate language different to German eventhough some similarity is still noticable. The idiotic claim of "Malay" for all languages of Indonesia is a nonsense and baseless, no people in Papua nor in Timor Island considered their daily language as "Malay", they considered it as the dialect of Indonesian. I've been there and socially mingled not just like y'all some lunatic editor. And of course it is bias and POV-pushing since every Indonesians claimed as "Malay" in mf Malaysial. Plus, I know who you are and what's your motivation, don't act like it's our first time talking about your nonsense "Malayness", the largest ethnic group of Indonesia is Javanese and it's even the largest in Southeast Asia yet no Javanese claimed another ethnic groups as "Javanese", you have to know that y'all are not that influential, stop claiming everything as "Malay", duh.. the REAL MALAY in eastern Sumatra didn't even have that kind of idiotic behavior. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Yes, that's a valid point. Not all of Malayic is Malay proper, but you have to realize that the distinction isn't always made, and there definitely is a Malay sphere, where the Malay language (in its various varieties) has functioned as a lingua franca for centuries. Iban is obviously a distinct language from Malay, and I'd argue that Minangkabau is separate too, but Indonesian is essentially the same thing as Malay proper, so Indonesia still pretty much counts as a Malay-speaking region.
- BTW, varieties like Manado Malay or Ternate Malay aren't really "Indonesian", the national language. Those are contact varieties of Malay (or perhaps Malay-based creoles), and some people in places like North Maluku refer to them as "bahasa melayu" too. They developed independently of what you call Indonesian and have only recently begun to coexist with it. Try not to be so narrow-minded. Malay is not confined to the Malay ethnic group. Megfãs (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- "the distinction isn't always made" is really the absolute idiot statement that I encountered today. It means you tryna said the Dutch language, the French language, and English language simply be clumped under the definition of "German language" because it is all Germanic? And btw the lingua franca of Indonesia is fluctuative and can't be simply clumped it all belongs to a single language, Malay influence itself never reached the Central or even as far as Eastern Indonesia, the widest Malay influence is only including the Sumatra island and its adjacent regions during the Srivijaya empire, but when the empire fell, the influence also reduced and replaced by another influence. Indonesian and Malay aren't the languages that sits together under your lunatic claim "Malay", it is seperate and distinct language, if these language is the same then as a native speaker of Indonesian I wouldn't have to waste my time to learn Malay language, but the reality is I can't even understand anything uttered by Malay speakers during my stay in Malay-predominant region of Indonesia and Malaysia. And btw no people of Manado and Ternate considered their language as "Malay", it's their own variety of Indonesian, and I'm not making these things up, you can go to each region and ask the locals, no one gonna refers it as "Malay" simply because it is not, they referred their 'daily/social language' as the dialect of Indonesian instead of Malay, don't speak the things that you've never experienced before, because being lunatic is easy, but being true observer takes time to do so. And furthermore, the Malay language is indeed attached exclusively to Malay people only, other ethnic groups speak their own language that are not even closely related to Malay. And btw your "try not to be so narrow-minded" statement really suited you, please don't be so narrow-minded by claiming everything as "Malay", the world isn't revolved around you only, and the world isn't contained by Malays only. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 16:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Indeed, the world isn't dominated by those "Malays" trying to claim everything "Indonesian" as "Malay", yet you insist on seeing them everyhwere. Please remember. Megfãs (talk) 16:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Seeing them everywhere? where? where? tell me where? and remember what bitch? stop being delutional, no Papuans nor people of Manado and Ternate claimed their daily/social language as Malay, its their way of speaking Indonesian language, and furthermore they have their own native languages, Papuan languages and Minahasan languages are far from so-called "Malay", don't be such an idiot (eventhough it seems you are). (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Indeed, the world isn't dominated by those "Malays" trying to claim everything "Indonesian" as "Malay", yet you insist on seeing them everyhwere. Please remember. Megfãs (talk) 16:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- "the distinction isn't always made" is really the absolute idiot statement that I encountered today. It means you tryna said the Dutch language, the French language, and English language simply be clumped under the definition of "German language" because it is all Germanic? And btw the lingua franca of Indonesia is fluctuative and can't be simply clumped it all belongs to a single language, Malay influence itself never reached the Central or even as far as Eastern Indonesia, the widest Malay influence is only including the Sumatra island and its adjacent regions during the Srivijaya empire, but when the empire fell, the influence also reduced and replaced by another influence. Indonesian and Malay aren't the languages that sits together under your lunatic claim "Malay", it is seperate and distinct language, if these language is the same then as a native speaker of Indonesian I wouldn't have to waste my time to learn Malay language, but the reality is I can't even understand anything uttered by Malay speakers during my stay in Malay-predominant region of Indonesia and Malaysia. And btw no people of Manado and Ternate considered their language as "Malay", it's their own variety of Indonesian, and I'm not making these things up, you can go to each region and ask the locals, no one gonna refers it as "Malay" simply because it is not, they referred their 'daily/social language' as the dialect of Indonesian instead of Malay, don't speak the things that you've never experienced before, because being lunatic is easy, but being true observer takes time to do so. And furthermore, the Malay language is indeed attached exclusively to Malay people only, other ethnic groups speak their own language that are not even closely related to Malay. And btw your "try not to be so narrow-minded" statement really suited you, please don't be so narrow-minded by claiming everything as "Malay", the world isn't revolved around you only, and the world isn't contained by Malays only. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 16:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Yes, that's a valid point. Not all of Malayic is Malay proper, but you have to realize that the distinction isn't always made, and there definitely is a Malay sphere, where the Malay language (in its various varieties) has functioned as a lingua franca for centuries. Iban is obviously a distinct language from Malay, and I'd argue that Minangkabau is separate too, but Indonesian is essentially the same thing as Malay proper, so Indonesia still pretty much counts as a Malay-speaking region.
- There is difference between "Malay" and "Malayic", both term didn't work synonymously. English is Germanic, so according to your idiotic statement English could be reckleclessly included in the "German sphere"? the answer is no, because English is seperate language different to German eventhough some similarity is still noticable. The idiotic claim of "Malay" for all languages of Indonesia is a nonsense and baseless, no people in Papua nor in Timor Island considered their daily language as "Malay", they considered it as the dialect of Indonesian. I've been there and socially mingled not just like y'all some lunatic editor. And of course it is bias and POV-pushing since every Indonesians claimed as "Malay" in mf Malaysial. Plus, I know who you are and what's your motivation, don't act like it's our first time talking about your nonsense "Malayness", the largest ethnic group of Indonesia is Javanese and it's even the largest in Southeast Asia yet no Javanese claimed another ethnic groups as "Javanese", you have to know that y'all are not that influential, stop claiming everything as "Malay", duh.. the REAL MALAY in eastern Sumatra didn't even have that kind of idiotic behavior. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Keep In wide use. I'd suggest changing the file description to "Countries where Malay and/or Indonesian is spoken", and a filename change for greater neutrality could also be discussed on the file's talk page, but you can't deny that Bahasa Indonesia is historically derived from Bahasa Melayu as used in pasar and trade and is largely mutually comprehensible with Malay - arguments you can't make in relation to German and English. I'd further point you to the following Wikipedia article: w:A language is a dialect with an army and navy. Which is why the Malay spoken in Palembang is considered "the purest Indonesian" by some people, whereas all the Han languages in China are considered "dialects." -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nope, it's still redundant and not effective as the file of File:Idioma malayo.png already represent 'kinda' exact "sphere" of Malay language in real life. I mean, if you wanna create anything related about Malay language just do it no one gonna complain about it as long as it really based on factual/real data and situation, don't claim another languages, regions, or even any ethnicities to fall under the idiotic claim of "Malay" due to idiotic so-called political Ketuanan Melayu ("Malay Supremacy") in Malaysia. The definition of "Malay" in Malaysia itself is so bias and POV-pushing, every Muslims can be claimed as so-called "Malay Malaysians" including those who came from Middle Eastern, it really irked me (and of course all Indonesians) that these kind of behavior is normalized here. And no, Indonesian language isn't derived from Malay, historically speaking it's derived from the Dutch and Javanese, and if you noticed the word "bahasa" as well as "melayu" itself is Javanese in origin, but ofc your Malaysial government never gonna admit that historical fact. And btw, the language spoken in Palembang isn't even Malay, it's the Palembang language, please STOP with these mf thief behavior claiming everything as Malay, the Palembang language itself is way more closer to Javanese rather than Malay, I'm one of the speaker of these language and I've learnt these language easily because I understood Javanese in prior, but ofc the one you saw on Wikipedia will stated it as "Malay" and even put all wrong sentence examples of Palembang language, I'm wondering why Malaysians are obsessed with Indonesian-related things, claim it as "Malay", and even tryna control what belongs to our rights? So long story short, nope.. the Palembang language also isn't Malay nor it's similar to Indonesian, thus your "Malay spoken in Palembang is purest Indonesian" statement is so idiotic, clueless and so palatao, I bet you know what that means, right?. Furthermore, The languages of Indonesia can't be compared to Chinese languages, because it's not apple-to-apple comparison, the Chinese people are basically having the same ancestor from the same landmass, that's why their physical features appeared to be similar, and that explains why they be speaking dialects (which is varieties derived from a language), meanwhile on the other hand the people of Indonesia are so diverse and different to each other genitically divided by its respective islands, that's why people from certain region didn't have similar physical feature because we simply aren't descended from the same ancestor, thus being said Indonesians are also linguistically diverse, even the neighbouring ethnic groups can't understand each other language. Take example the Palembang language in southeastern Sumatra can't be understood by the Lampung language speakers coming from its adjacent region, it simply because they're different people with different language and different ancestor. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 15:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- It's already been explained how the other file is not synonymous with this one. Genetics are completely irrelevant to language, the suggestion that Indonesian is derived from the borrow words from Dutch and Javanese and not from Pasar Malay is absurd, and none of the rest of your remarks really bear discussion in a deletion request thread. Also, buster, I'm an American who spent 2 years living in a Malay kampung, not a Malay nationalist, and I don't know what "palatao" means. Do you know what "dok mboh" means? That's Bahasa Terengganu. Wanna claim that Bahasa Terengganu is not a dialect of Malay? Good luck. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- And you need to stop calling everyone else's points "idiotic," or it will become necessary to report your bad behavior on the Administrators' noticeboard for a warning and possible suspension, mu orang kurang ajar! -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Absurd? are you sure? It has more evidence more than just your lunatic claim, and btw the Malay language is originated from Sumatra, the Malay people didn't even claim or considered the Indonesian language as "Malay", so how tf you have guts to claim it as "Malay"? who are you to decide? it's our language and we know what we're talking about. And also I bring the genetics and all that because you bring "Chinese" as comparison meanwhile Chinese and Indonesian aren't an apple-to-apple comparison, and btw languages is indeed formed by the people which in wider sense talking about its genetic origin, do you think English spoken in Australia because the Aboriginals speak it? nope, the English spoken there because British people migrated there, so genetic and language is somehow inseparable matter. And also, there is no such thing as bahasa Terengganu which simply means the "Terengganu language", the local never claim it as seperate language, it's simply the dialect of Malay spoken in Thailand, the regions of Kelantan-Terengganu-Kedah-Perlis, etc were part of Thailand's region before the British give it to Malaysia via the Anglo-Siamese Treaty in 1909 (or 1919 I don't quite remember btw) but ofc your Malaysial government never taught you about that, everything is ultimately "Malay Malaysians" right? not giveaway from British right? Mek Mulung, Menora, Khao Yam (Nasi Kerabu), etc are also "Malay" right? hahahaha IDIOT, those are Thailand's things not Malaysian nor "Malay". And also it's worth to mention "idiotic" since it's the reality of it, it such an idiotic opinion to claim everything as so-called "Malay", duh. And you all also kurang ajar to claim every Indonesian things as "Malay", if you feel offended then I'm more offended by y'all idiotic claim and so-called Malay Supremacy. Ew, really that desperate and obsessed with Indonesian things, huh? (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 15:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- I will not engage with you further in this thread, and I suggest you try to defend yourself at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User:Factual Fact Factor. Good luck. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:29, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Frankly, this is entire nomination is just mindboggling. This map is clearly about where the standardized dialects of the Malay language have official status, and it is quite clear in that. The PNG presented as an alternative is mapping a completely different phenomenon, and appears to draw a distinction between Indonesian and Malay, even though they are mutually intelligible and standard Indonesian is referred to as "bahasa Melayu" in areas where other dialects are more prominent. Now there may be good reasons for drawing a distinction between Indonesian Malay and other forms, but this map is completely forthcoming on not making that distinction. It would be a supreme act of POV pushing to enforce such a requirement and entertain a deletion request on that basis. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 19:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- but Indonesian isn't "standardized dialect of Malay", do not rely your knowledge about these language based on what you read on Wikipedia, several Indonesian users has already try to fix the article yet Malaysians (who obviously obsessed to claim Indonesian as "Malay") are trying so hard to make disruptive edits yet no actions given to their accounts, you could even see in these discussion talk page full of Malaysian who are trying so hard to claim Indonesian as Malay as if it was even their language at the first place. And let me tell you something, the Standard Malay is derived from Indonesian, not the other way around, you can even search on Google "who compiled Kamus Dewan" and you could see Indonesian scholar was the one who made it, he took Indonesian dictionary as a base of so-called "Standard Malay" for both Malaysia and Singapore, these information even still maintained in the National Library of Singapore. And nope, no Indonesians considered their language as "Malay" unless for the real Malay language spoken in eastern Sumatra (Riau) and its adjacent islands (Riau Islands), these map right here is actually the one that shows the real distribution of Malay language -> File:Idioma malayo.png but it need to be fixed as well since some regions painted blue are actually not a Malay-speaking region. Thus, my deletion request is heavily focused on the redundancy file for so-called "Malay sphere" map (per COM:REDUNDANT) since these 'kinda' correct file (File:Idioma malayo.png) already exist and also the map made by Kwamikagami is baseless and more like lunatic, the one that should be considered as "supreme act of POV" is her/his map, not me the one who tryna fixed the misleading information. Indonesian language isn't Malay language, and the official language of Indonesia is Indonesian not Malay language. Would you consider English as "German" just because English is Germanic? both English language and German language is different eventhough it is similar, if you consider Indonesian as dialect then all languages such as English, Dutch, etc should be treated the same way, it should be named "German sphere" and German is the official language of England, also please painted the whole England as German language-based country. And anyways, I see that you are also make some contributions about linguistic right? then why you can't understand that similar doesn't mean the same? have you heard of 'sister language' before? the sister language of Indonesian is Malay, but it doesn't mean Indonesian itself is Malay, just like how German is sister language of English. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 20:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
- Delete or rename, the current name is clearly misleading. Guido den Broeder (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a problem moving it to "Malay/Indonesian sphere" or some such. But to delete a file because of a quibble over the name is not supported by Commons guidelines. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly what Kwamikagami mentioned. I suggest you read COM:SCOPE and COM:INUSE before !voting keep or delete. Commons is not Wikipedia for everything to not be misleading. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- I suggest that the both of you read the policy instead of bullying the opposition. Nowhere does it say that misleading names are fine and dandy, or that files with misleading names are by definition still educational. It does say that only legitimate use counts and that advertising and self-promotion are typical examples of information that is not educational. Guido den Broeder (talk) 11:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- How is it misleading though? I don't think it's even controversial. Megfãs (talk) 18:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Guido den Broeder: I can't speak on behalf of Kwamikagami, but I'm not "bullying" the opposition; I'm simply stating the policy. COM:INUSE states that if it's in use on another Wikimedia project, then it's useful. Discounting all Wikipedias, it's used on incubator:Wy/id/Buku frase Melayu, voy:en:Malay phrasebook and n:ru:Категория:Малайский язык where this file is clearly superior to File:Idioma malayo.png. Maybe you should be the one to reread the policy. SHB2000 (talk) 09:15, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- I suggest that the both of you read the policy instead of bullying the opposition. Nowhere does it say that misleading names are fine and dandy, or that files with misleading names are by definition still educational. It does say that only legitimate use counts and that advertising and self-promotion are typical examples of information that is not educational. Guido den Broeder (talk) 11:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly what Kwamikagami mentioned. I suggest you read COM:SCOPE and COM:INUSE before !voting keep or delete. Commons is not Wikipedia for everything to not be misleading. --SHB2000 (talk) 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have a problem moving it to "Malay/Indonesian sphere" or some such. But to delete a file because of a quibble over the name is not supported by Commons guidelines. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- [Deleted 2nd vote icon under blocked sock account] Misleading and Non-neutral Point of View. According to the Official 1945 Constitutional Law of the Republic of Indonesia, the official language of Indonesia is Indonesian not Malay.
Translation: The national language is Indonesian
It is also clearly defined since 1928 through the Sumpah Pemuda (Youth Pledge/Declaration) that the language spoken by Indonesians is Indonesian not Malay, these Youth Pledge/Deflaration is intended to refuted the outsiders' claim(?) that clumped all Indonesians and its Indonesian language as 'Malay':
Original text:
- Kami Putra dan Putri Indonesia, Mengaku Bertumpah Darah Yang Satu, Tanah Indonesia
- Kami Putra dan Putri Indonesia, Mengaku Berbangsa Yang Satu, Bangsa Indonesia
- Kami Putra dan Putri Indonesia, Menjunjung Bahasa Persatuan, Bahasa Indonesia
Translation:
- We, the Sons and Daughters of Indonesia, Acknowledge Our One Motherland, the Land of Indonesia
- We, the Sons and Daughters of Indonesia, Acknowledge Our One Nation, the Nation of Indonesia
- We, the Sons and Daughters of Indonesia, Uphold Our Unity Language, the Indonesian language
- A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Some people in the US say they speak "American". It doesn't follow that they don't speak English.
- You forgot the part where Indonesia and Malaysia coordinate on the orthography of their shared language. Kwamikagami (talk) 02:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- But Indonesian isn't Malay, I think another user already pointed out that point, English is Germanic so it's okay to include English as "German sphere"? German and Germanic is two different thing, in the US they also didn't have any law about official language, no Americans called their language as "American" as you said. And about the orthography, it was Malaysia who requested it from Indonesia to standardized their language, the one who created "Standard Malay" is Indonesian scholar who took Standard Indonesian as the basis, learn more about it. Standard Malay derived from Indonesian but it's not the other way around, it still distinct language, just like how English and German language works where Standard English took German elements as their basis. (Serepinx (talk) 11:01, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
- The International Standards Organization disagrees. Indonesian and Malay are pretty unambiguously dialects of a common language. Just like Tajiki and Moroccan are both dialects of Arabic. Just like Eastern and Western Yiddish, etc. etc. etc...
- It does not matter whether it's politics and religion or simple geographic distance. No matter whether people call the language they speak by a different name, if two people can speak and/or write to each other, they share a language. And since the Indonesian government promulgated the Ejaan Yang Disempurnakan in 1972, Rumi has been about as mutually intelligible as the spoken dialects. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 17:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Vanisaac: The International Standard Organization didn't even include any Indonesian representatives to decide that false grouping. You can even see on the code change document, the one who clumped it under that group is from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), so it's obvious POV pushing linguistic group, that "msa" even including the Banjarese language which is an obvious part of Dayak languages. The original ISO of Indonesian is "id" and that's the correct and commonly used one, even the Indonesian Wikipedia is id.wikipedia not ind.wikipedia, "ind" is obviously not correct. And comparing Indonesian to the dialects of Arabic isn't correct since Indonesian is a language not dialect. The Indonesian and Malay isn't even mutually intelligible, the Indonesian speakers are hardly understand the Malay language, and it has different linguistic typology order system, Indonesian use all subject–object–verb, object–subject–verb, verb–subject–object, or verb–object–subject order meanwhile Malay use a single subject–verb–object. The Latin script used in Indonesian and Malay also different, for instance, in Indonesian to form the word with the sound of /baː-/ and /ʔaː/ it just need to be written as "ba-" and "ka-" meanwhile in Malay it has to be "bha-" and "kha-", the similar words such as "kabar" (in Indonesian) and "khabar" (in Malay) shows similar sounding but different spelling or even meaning, in Indonesian it means news/information meanwhile in Malay it means newspaper. (Fraw Món (talk) 02:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- You obviously don't speak Malay. Khabar means "news", as in the phrase "Apa khabar?", which I would think you'd be familiar with if you're Indonesian. "Suratkhabar" means "newspaper." -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- British English spells it "colour", while American English spells "color". And "biscuit" in British English means "cookie" in American English. There are distinctions in the subjunctive mood, article usage, and word order in the imperative between dialects of English, and even just within "American" English, there are huge differences of vocabulary, grammar, and usage. These kinds of slight variations in spelling, usage, and nuance of meaning is exactly what makes a dialect continuum within a language. What you've demonstrated above is almost the definition of dialects of a common language.
- But even if everything you are pushing were all true, the legend of the map explicitly calls it "Indonesian/Malay", meaning all of the things you've tried to say about this image are just false. The map is still completely correct even if you defer to politicians rather than linguists. Especially when you so badly misunderstand the process that goes into these ISO standards - I've had to work proposals through both ISO 15924 and ISO 10646 with zero religious, ethnic, or other political considerations, and know just how thoroughly and completely they verify and check everything. Frankly the flipancy and vileness of your characterization of those standards and the people that do the work of maintaining them is pretty disgusting. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 03:09, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Vanisaac: The International Standard Organization didn't even include any Indonesian representatives to decide that false grouping. You can even see on the code change document, the one who clumped it under that group is from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia), so it's obvious POV pushing linguistic group, that "msa" even including the Banjarese language which is an obvious part of Dayak languages. The original ISO of Indonesian is "id" and that's the correct and commonly used one, even the Indonesian Wikipedia is id.wikipedia not ind.wikipedia, "ind" is obviously not correct. And comparing Indonesian to the dialects of Arabic isn't correct since Indonesian is a language not dialect. The Indonesian and Malay isn't even mutually intelligible, the Indonesian speakers are hardly understand the Malay language, and it has different linguistic typology order system, Indonesian use all subject–object–verb, object–subject–verb, verb–subject–object, or verb–object–subject order meanwhile Malay use a single subject–verb–object. The Latin script used in Indonesian and Malay also different, for instance, in Indonesian to form the word with the sound of /baː-/ and /ʔaː/ it just need to be written as "ba-" and "ka-" meanwhile in Malay it has to be "bha-" and "kha-", the similar words such as "kabar" (in Indonesian) and "khabar" (in Malay) shows similar sounding but different spelling or even meaning, in Indonesian it means news/information meanwhile in Malay it means newspaper. (Fraw Món (talk) 02:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- But Indonesian isn't Malay, I think another user already pointed out that point, English is Germanic so it's okay to include English as "German sphere"? German and Germanic is two different thing, in the US they also didn't have any law about official language, no Americans called their language as "American" as you said. And about the orthography, it was Malaysia who requested it from Indonesia to standardized their language, the one who created "Standard Malay" is Indonesian scholar who took Standard Indonesian as the basis, learn more about it. Standard Malay derived from Indonesian but it's not the other way around, it still distinct language, just like how English and German language works where Standard English took German elements as their basis. (Serepinx (talk) 11:01, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
- Keep No basis in policy. Nardog (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- [Deleted 3rd vote icon under blocked sock account] Misleading, POV pushing and Redundant. The file such as File:Idioma malayo.png and File:Austronesian including Malay and various random languages.svg already represent the exact same thing. COM:REDUNDANT (Fraw Món (talk) 11:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
- It's not COM:REDUNDANT because it's a technically improved version of File:Idioma malayo.png and is COM:INUSE and falls well within COM:SCOPE. SHB2000 (talk) 11:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Improvisation should be done in that file of File:Idioma malayo.png, not creating another new file, the fact that you called it "improve" yet these new generated file exist really shows my point that this file is redundant and worth to be deleted, and also it is worth noting that these file has multiple issues (naming, regions, description, status, POV, etc.) as what another users already explained above. The files of File:Idioma malayo.png and File:Austronesian including Malay and various random languages.svg have been used before these POV pushing file exist, you can checked the creation date for both original files. (Fraw Món (talk) 11:56, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
- Anyone can see that the three files are not the same. If you want to argue about ways to change the file's description or name so as to improve it, do so on the file's talk page, but don't try to have it deleted. If, on the other hand, you merely want the file removed from a Wikipedia article, argue on the Wikipedia article's talk page. We are using it in the Malay phrasebook on Wikivoyage. Respect that and don't try to have it removed from the repository of images for all Wikimedia sites. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Improvisation should be done in that file of File:Idioma malayo.png, not creating another new file, the fact that you called it "improve" yet these new generated file exist really shows my point that this file is redundant and worth to be deleted, and also it is worth noting that these file has multiple issues (naming, regions, description, status, POV, etc.) as what another users already explained above. The files of File:Idioma malayo.png and File:Austronesian including Malay and various random languages.svg have been used before these POV pushing file exist, you can checked the creation date for both original files. (Fraw Món (talk) 11:56, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
Comment This isn't entirely relevant to the topic at hand but I think should bring to your attention that Factual Fact Factor (using another profile) inserted an unnoticed language hoax on idwiki, saying that Bacan Malay belongs to the "West Papuan branch" of the "Nusantara language family". The former is an unrelated language family, while the latter doesn't even exist. Seeing that encouraged me to peruse what we have available on the language. It appears that Bacan is an aberrant Malayic variety, definitely not a "West Papuan" language, and not a "Nusantara" language. To put it more bluntly, I think the person that has tagged this file has a nationalist hoax agenda going on in their mind (related to the anti-Malay sentiment in Indonesia), and any of their ideas should be taken with a grain of salt, especially considering that they've used other accounts before (which is not disallowed, but they're apparently an LTA). I don't know what the procedure is for such cases, but since they've used multiple accounts, and abusively so, there may be more to come, with other figments of imagination, so I thought I'd warn the commenters here. Megfãs (talk) 19:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nusantara simply denotes the archipel. Bacan Malay seems to be quite old and different, so how it should be classified more narrowly is unclear. Their preference may be mistaken but doesn't come across as a hoax; according to Dutch literature there has been a lot of interaction with West-Papuan languages. However, the account has been blocked, so they can't respond to your comment and as you say, it's not relevant to the topic at hand. One can be right about one thing and wrong about another. Guido den Broeder (talk) 21:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Guido den Broeder: Well after a lil crosscheck, I found that the Bacan language isn't a hoax, the official Indonesian government have website called Peta Bahasa literally means "language mapping" to record all information related to languages of Indonesia, and it appears that Bacan language is a real language that aren't even related to Malay, and it is actually related to West Papuan languages due to long historical contact as what you said, you can check it by yourself in these websites: Bacan language in Peta Bahasa website and Bacan language in PDF file of Language Mapping in Northern Maluku – National Linguistic Laboratory, the official Indonesian dictionary also have description about Bacan being the language spoken by the Bacan ethnic group: Bacan in Indonesian Dictionary. So the one that obviously "language hoax" is what written on Wikipedia. Interestingly enough, I also I found that "Nusantara languages" actually also the real thing, I found talen van Noesantara or Noesantara talen at some Dutch literature, and these one specifically have review on East Nusantara languages: East Nusantara languages in University of Leiden publication. I noticed that almost all languages with Indonesian diaspora that can be found in Malaysia are purposedly misleaded as "Malay" by Malaysians vandals (and I'm pretty sure Megfãs is one of them since I saw that he/she is the one who redirected the "Bacan language" to "Bacan Malay language" recklessly). (Fraw Món (talk) 22:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
- The language is real, but the classification you inserted was an obvious hoax, and you keep trying to achieve the same thing here, but with Indonesian this time, availing yourself of your multiple accounts. Bacan is definitely a Malayic variety based on what we know about it, and even your pdf shows that its basic vocabulary is Malayic. I don't think it discusses its classification anywhere, though. James T. Collins has done some research on it, so you may want to familiarize yourself with that.
- My point is: none of your linguistic opinions are backed up by facts or can be corroborated by the literature. There's no Nusantara language family (which almost seems like common knowledge), and the sources you've mentioned probably use it as a geographical term (yes, it "simply denotes the archipelago", not a genetic group). "East Nusantara" is another geography-based term, referring to an area of language convergence (aka Sprachbund). Not a language family (have you even read the publication?). Indonesian isn't derived from Javanese and Dutch, it's another Malayic variety, or rather a form of Malay proper, which isn't even controversial (any literature should help clear this up). The term "Filipino" wasn't made up by Wikipedians (??), and it has wide currency elsewhere. People in Manado do speak Manado Malay, and people in Ternate do speak North Moluccan Malay. Those aren't "Indonesian dialects", or at least they weren't historically derived from what you call Indonesian. Essentially everything you're trying to push here is a POV-marred nationalist version of reality, based on the anti-Malay sentiment that isn't extremely rare in Indonesia. People have proven you wrong, yet you keep attacking others, accusing them of being "Malaysian vandals", and insist that the evil Malays are trying to claim everything Indonesian as "Malay". Again, try to be more receptive to other people's ideas, actual linguistic facts (which are aplenty on wiki and in other places), and read up on the topic if you're genuinely clueless (which I doubt is the case). Megfãs (talk) 23:54, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- I inserted? I didn't even know what Bacan language is until you bring this up right below my comment. And the fact that you said "you have no backup" and accusing someone else "creating hoax" while you have no idea about that language is so silly because apparently I can bring all the correct sources for those language you vandalized on Wikipedia. The Bacan language isn't Malay nor Malayic, it is listed as one of the languages in Indonesia, you can check from the official website of linguistic mapping of Indonesia right here: Search "Bacan" in National Laboratory and you can clearly see Bacan is an individual distinct language not related to Malay. And even being in "Malayic" family, it doesn't have to be redirected to "Bacan Malay", because English is Germanic but no linguist named it as "English German". You have to understand what German and Germanic really means, as well as what Malay and Malayic means. And your "Indonesian isn't derived from Javanese and Dutch" statement is clueless and baseless, the term "bahasa Indonesia" itself made up from Javanese and Dutch respectively, the word bahasa taken from Old Javanese ꦨꦰ (bʰaṣa) which derived from Sanskrit भाषा (bhāṣā) and the word Indonesia originally taken from Dutch Indisch and subsequently became Indonesia of Greek origin Ινδο (indo) + νησιά (nisia). If you said Indonesian is actually derived from Malay, I dare you to mention a single Malay original word. And nope, the Manado people aren't speaking Manado Malay, they speak Minahasan languages and Ternate people speak Ternate language, all correct information about languages spoken in Indonesia is officially recorded by the linguistic data of the Republic Indonesia, you might fool people by your vandal edits on Wikipedia, but you can't change the official data provided by the government. Again, try to be rationale and don't talk about the things you had no idea about, you are not a linguist, nor part of the community you are referring to. (Fraw Món (talk) 00:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- It can be termed as either "Bacan" or "Bacan Malay" (James T. Collins uses both of these in his research). That's not really pertinent though. "If you said Indonesian is actually derived from Malay, I dare you to mention a single Malay original word." - what? Bro, Indonesian is derived from Malay. I could bring up some literature, but that almost seems absurd. These facts are taught in Indonesian schools and aren't even remotely controversial. It's like proving that Hungary isn't part of China. You're literally making things up. As for Manado Malay and North Moluccan Malay, yes, these are the main languages of North Sulawesi and North Maluku, respectively. Malayic too.
- No need to respond anymore. Megfãs (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, James T. Collins is foreigner, he is not Bacanese nor Indonesian, not even born or even lived in Bacan-speaking regions. Foreigners simply just assume things based on their limited knowledge over the indigenous. The foreigners also classified the indigenous of America as "Indian" but it doesn't mean they are Indian and they didn't speaking Indian languages, no native called themselves as Indian nor they speak Indian language or Indianic languages variety. No Bacanese referred themselves as "Malay" nor they speak the "Malay" language or even the "Malayic" variety of it. And "Bro, Indonesian is derived from Malay" is so baseless and misleading, I dare you to even mention the a single original Malay word, why you can't answer? you said Indonesian derived from Malay right? now I dare you to mention words of Malay origin, and furthermore how dare you to assume my gender. And nope, there's no language called "North Maluku Malay", no natives will recognize that terminology or even heard of it. Surprisingly just like what another "XXX Malay" languages, it is only appeared or started in Wikipedia, there is no official data from the government of Indoneaia about that language. So, please be rational and quit fantasizing about it. (Fraw Món (talk) 01:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- The term "Filipino" wasn't made up by Wikipedians. Neither were "Palembang Malay, "North Moluccan Malay", "Manado Malay", or the fact that Indonesian is an offshoot of standard Malay. That's absurd, given how common these terms and classifications are in linguistic publications (both Indonesian and foreign). Realize that Wikipedia relies on external sources, not figments of anyone's imagination, and most (if not all) of this stuff is easily verifiable. Megfãs (talk) 08:39, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, James T. Collins is foreigner, he is not Bacanese nor Indonesian, not even born or even lived in Bacan-speaking regions. Foreigners simply just assume things based on their limited knowledge over the indigenous. The foreigners also classified the indigenous of America as "Indian" but it doesn't mean they are Indian and they didn't speaking Indian languages, no native called themselves as Indian nor they speak Indian language or Indianic languages variety. No Bacanese referred themselves as "Malay" nor they speak the "Malay" language or even the "Malayic" variety of it. And "Bro, Indonesian is derived from Malay" is so baseless and misleading, I dare you to even mention the a single original Malay word, why you can't answer? you said Indonesian derived from Malay right? now I dare you to mention words of Malay origin, and furthermore how dare you to assume my gender. And nope, there's no language called "North Maluku Malay", no natives will recognize that terminology or even heard of it. Surprisingly just like what another "XXX Malay" languages, it is only appeared or started in Wikipedia, there is no official data from the government of Indoneaia about that language. So, please be rational and quit fantasizing about it. (Fraw Món (talk) 01:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- I inserted? I didn't even know what Bacan language is until you bring this up right below my comment. And the fact that you said "you have no backup" and accusing someone else "creating hoax" while you have no idea about that language is so silly because apparently I can bring all the correct sources for those language you vandalized on Wikipedia. The Bacan language isn't Malay nor Malayic, it is listed as one of the languages in Indonesia, you can check from the official website of linguistic mapping of Indonesia right here: Search "Bacan" in National Laboratory and you can clearly see Bacan is an individual distinct language not related to Malay. And even being in "Malayic" family, it doesn't have to be redirected to "Bacan Malay", because English is Germanic but no linguist named it as "English German". You have to understand what German and Germanic really means, as well as what Malay and Malayic means. And your "Indonesian isn't derived from Javanese and Dutch" statement is clueless and baseless, the term "bahasa Indonesia" itself made up from Javanese and Dutch respectively, the word bahasa taken from Old Javanese ꦨꦰ (bʰaṣa) which derived from Sanskrit भाषा (bhāṣā) and the word Indonesia originally taken from Dutch Indisch and subsequently became Indonesia of Greek origin Ινδο (indo) + νησιά (nisia). If you said Indonesian is actually derived from Malay, I dare you to mention a single Malay original word. And nope, the Manado people aren't speaking Manado Malay, they speak Minahasan languages and Ternate people speak Ternate language, all correct information about languages spoken in Indonesia is officially recorded by the linguistic data of the Republic Indonesia, you might fool people by your vandal edits on Wikipedia, but you can't change the official data provided by the government. Again, try to be rationale and don't talk about the things you had no idea about, you are not a linguist, nor part of the community you are referring to. (Fraw Món (talk) 00:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- @Guido den Broeder: Well after a lil crosscheck, I found that the Bacan language isn't a hoax, the official Indonesian government have website called Peta Bahasa literally means "language mapping" to record all information related to languages of Indonesia, and it appears that Bacan language is a real language that aren't even related to Malay, and it is actually related to West Papuan languages due to long historical contact as what you said, you can check it by yourself in these websites: Bacan language in Peta Bahasa website and Bacan language in PDF file of Language Mapping in Northern Maluku – National Linguistic Laboratory, the official Indonesian dictionary also have description about Bacan being the language spoken by the Bacan ethnic group: Bacan in Indonesian Dictionary. So the one that obviously "language hoax" is what written on Wikipedia. Interestingly enough, I also I found that "Nusantara languages" actually also the real thing, I found talen van Noesantara or Noesantara talen at some Dutch literature, and these one specifically have review on East Nusantara languages: East Nusantara languages in University of Leiden publication. I noticed that almost all languages with Indonesian diaspora that can be found in Malaysia are purposedly misleaded as "Malay" by Malaysians vandals (and I'm pretty sure Megfãs is one of them since I saw that he/she is the one who redirected the "Bacan language" to "Bacan Malay language" recklessly). (Fraw Món (talk) 22:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC))
Keep -- I doubt whether formal standard Malay in Malaysia and formal standard Indonesian are any more divergent than Brazilian Portuguese and Portugal Portuguese. The Wikipedia "Indonesian language" article says it is a "standardized variety of Malay". English is not a standardized version of modern German (nor mutually comprehensible with modern German at all), so that analogy doesn't work. If there's some sensitivity over names, the image can be fixed (not deleted)... AnonMoos (talk) 00:28, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- @AnonMoos: Do not rely your knowledge about Indonesian language based on Wikipedia, it full of vandalism obviously, you can even clearly checked all sections are purposedly redirected to Malay language. And Indonesian also not the standardized version of Malay, the standardized version of Malay called "Standard Malay" and the standardized version of Indonesian is called "Standard Indonesian", Wikipedia articles about Indonesian are massively and heavily vandalized, you can even see in history or talk pages of that article. Malay variety spoken in Malaysia called Malaysian Malay, it is derived from the Standard Malay, meanwhile the Malay variety spoken in Indonesia has numerous variants and it's not called "Indonesian Malay" because Malay is not official language in Indonesia, but the well-known one is Riau Malay which is the base for Standard Malay itself. (Fraw Món (talk) 01:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC))
- Comment. The nominator was first temporarily blocked for abuse here, then permanently blocked as a sockpuppet. Serepinx and the last commenter here (Fraw Món) are additional socks, and now also blocked. So 3 of the 'delete' votes here were by the nominator. They appear to have a history of nationalist hoaxing. Kwamikagami (talk) 09:38, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely and I wouldn't be surprised if the nominator uses another few socks. Right now, only Guido den Broeder has advocated for deleting the file and they've still yet to make an argument against COM:INUSE. SHB2000 (talk) 11:23, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- You need to reread my replies then. I've already pointed out that the policies say only legitimate use counts. That it may be an improvement to an earlier version is irrelevant when the earlier version is equally out of scope. Further, FYI, this is not a vote. Consensus is built with arguments. And certainly not by attacking other users. Guido den Broeder (talk) 14:53, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely and I wouldn't be surprised if the nominator uses another few socks. Right now, only Guido den Broeder has advocated for deleting the file and they've still yet to make an argument against COM:INUSE. SHB2000 (talk) 11:23, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- What do you think the scope of Wikimedia is? Do you think use on a Malay phrasebook on Wikivoyage is "illegitimate"? I'm tempted to ask who died and made you King. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- And I'm tempted to report you for bullying. Guido den Broeder (talk) 18:33, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- "Bullying" because I take offense at your wanting to delete a file we're using in good faith on a wiki? Sure, call the cops. I'm done with this "discussion" with you. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Guido den Broeder: I've read all your comments twice but it really isn't my nor Ikan Kekek's problem that you choose to ignore COM:INUSE – I've already told you that the file is used on three non-Wikipedia projects where this is clearly superior to the alternate file. I understand if my comments may come out as harsh, but the fact is, I've never made any comments about you; I've only commented about your actions/behaviour. Maybe you should revise what "bullying" means because simply stating facts is not. If you really think I am, go ahead and start a thread at COM:ANU but I really doubt you'll get very far. And like Ikan, I'm also not responding any further because I'm also done with your accusations of "bullying". SHB2000 (talk) 07:55, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've not ignored anything, I have explained to you why it doesn't apply. I don't see a need to repeat that over and over and yes, in a harsh tone demanding answers that have already been given is bullying. There is also no need to repeat your own point of view many times. Once is enough. Guido den Broeder (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Guido den Broeder: I've taken a break from this discussion and I will ask this for the last time. Please explain how its usage on the English Wikivoyage, Russian Wikinews and the Indonesian Wikivoyage currently in the incubator isn't a valid reason for keeping this file per COM:INUSE – and please answer without the ad hominem. SHB2000 (talk) 12:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Already answered, and in view of your revenge !vote, I will not reply to you again. Guido den Broeder (talk) 12:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Right, so now you won't assume good faith. Make your argument at COM:ANU#Guido den Broeder. SHB2000 (talk) 11:49, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Already answered, and in view of your revenge !vote, I will not reply to you again. Guido den Broeder (talk) 12:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Guido den Broeder: I've taken a break from this discussion and I will ask this for the last time. Please explain how its usage on the English Wikivoyage, Russian Wikinews and the Indonesian Wikivoyage currently in the incubator isn't a valid reason for keeping this file per COM:INUSE – and please answer without the ad hominem. SHB2000 (talk) 12:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've not ignored anything, I have explained to you why it doesn't apply. I don't see a need to repeat that over and over and yes, in a harsh tone demanding answers that have already been given is bullying. There is also no need to repeat your own point of view many times. Once is enough. Guido den Broeder (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no reason for deletion; If there are some errors in the map/drawing, please use "upload a new version" for correction. For the possibility to rename this file see COM:RENAME. --Wdwd (talk) 08:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
こちらからの投稿であり、著作権侵害。 高砂の浦 (talk) 08:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Support 依頼者票 明らかな著作権侵害。--高砂の浦 (talk) 08:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)- Delete I guess this picture is copied from https://vearyclinic.life/doctor/ , the official website of the clinic that Hiroaki Inoue; the subject of this picture serves as the director. this picture can be seen at not only the nominator 高砂の浦 mentioned, but also https://mymeii.jp/introduce/ijin-vearyclinic/ , other web page that introduces the clinic. So, the picture must be official picture of Dr Inoue. Without clear permission by the person involved, this file should be deleted due to fear of copyright violation, as the nominator says. --郊外生活Kogaiseikatsu (talk,contribs) 18:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete 依頼者に同意します。--最終編集 (talk) 04:28, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 08:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
I, the owner of this photo and the person in it, would like it to be removed from Wikimedia. SlipknotRlZZ (talk) 08:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, unused personal photo. --Wdwd (talk) 09:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Creative Commons licensing? Really? 217.239.13.14 08:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- The file was uploaded by the verified account of the Production Company User:PROVOBIS Film GmbH holding the rights. Really. Ailura (talk) 17:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. And they say they have the rights to "publish" it. Is "publishing" it the same thing as publishing it under a Creative Commons license?
- FYI, this company account has just been banned infinitely on the German Wikipedia for advertising, link spam, and copyvio. --217.239.14.195 20:42, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: A user verification does not replace a declaration of consent: Missing permission for given cc license. --Wdwd (talk) 09:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Creative Commons licensing? Really? 217.239.13.14 08:38, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- The file was uploaded by the verified account of the Production Company User:PROVOBIS Film GmbH holding the rights. Really. Ailura (talk) 17:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Same as here. They say they have the rights to "publish" it. Is "publishing" it the same thing as publishing it under a Creative Commons license?
- FYI, this company account has just been banned infinitely on the German Wikipedia for advertising, link spam, and copyvio. --217.239.14.195 20:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: A user verification does not replace a declaration of consent: Missing permission for given cc license. --Wdwd (talk) 09:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Factual Fact Factor as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: This content need to be deleted because it contain original research and blatantly misleading, Malays never spread their influence as further as those territories, the only largest influence of Malay (or actually Palembang to be precise) is only in Sumatra and its adjacent regions during the heyday of the Srivijaya empire.
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion, as needed for such issues. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete It is baseless self-work. (Factual Fact Factor (talk) 12:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC))
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Delete. Some of this is arguable, but I don't see how Sri Lanka can be claimed to be under Malay influence, rather than the reverse. The countries that are and are not colored on the map are rather random. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Changing to Keep after seeing the statement on w:Malay world about the influences on Sri Lanka from Nusantara, which is considered the Malay world in the article. I don't know why Cambodia and Vietnam are not included on this map when the Champas are often considered a Malay people, but all of this should be discussed. Deletions of files in use on Wikipedia articles shouldn't be made on a polemical basis without discussions on the talk pages of the relevant articles. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:33, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Changing to
- Speedy keep. Nominated by a sockpuppet account in violation of a ban. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 01:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no reason for deletion, as above; If there are some errors in the map/drawing, please use "upload a new version" for correction. For the possibility to rename this file see COM:RENAME. --Wdwd (talk) 10:08, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Out of scope: since when do we preserve tweets? Enyavar (talk) 09:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello,
- This tweet capture is from a politician from Navarre. The politician was denouncing the promotion of the Basque language, which in his opinion is useless. Instead he promotes the study of the English language, which he has studied, and which he knows how to use.
- However, his defence was made with misspellings, which led to it going viral, and he subsequently deleted it to deny the tweet's existence.
- This image was included in his wikipedia profile. Endika Amundarain (talk) 10:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Huh. I never noticed, but we apparently also host the tweets of the orange monster. Hm, in that case and as long as it's useful for a project - Keep! Sorry and all the best, --Enyavar (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Huh. I never noticed, but we apparently also host the tweets of the orange monster. Hm, in that case and as long as it's useful for a project -
Kept: DR withdrawn. --Wdwd (talk) 10:10, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
This image is not in the public domain. 94.109.45.6 10:38, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete It doesn't have to be in the public domain to be hosted here, but it can't be "copyright, all rights reserved," as laid out here: "Toute copie, adaptation, traduction, arrangement ou modification de tout ou une partie de ce site, sous quelque forme et avec quelque moyen que ce soit, électronique, mécanique ou autre, est strictement interdite sans l'autorisation préalable et écrite de l’ASBL « Collège de l’Exécutif des Musulmans de Belgique »." -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:16, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 10:18, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
duplicte of File:Christopher Pissarides.jpg though not exact framing — billinghurst sDrewth 10:38, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, unused. --Wdwd (talk) 10:18, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
It makes no sense to store this file in jpg Артём 13327 (talk) 10:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion, file in use. --Wdwd (talk) 10:19, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Better version at File:Minecraft missing texture block.svg, can replace the subpar JPEG compressed version. — HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK ∣ enWiki 20:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep In use. Leonel Sohns 09:02, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Kept: In use. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Replaced by svg. Not used anywhere. Lemonaka (talk) 14:32, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Kadı Message 16:01, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Есть дубликат с более подробными данными, загруженный ботом в 2015 году: File:Minsk_-_panoramio_-_Vlad_Shtelts_(Stelz)_(3).jpg MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 11:29, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
_(3).jpg&action=edit&redlink=1){kind=link}
Deleted: duplicate file, add redirection. --Wdwd (talk) 10:21, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
no copyright Andrsvoss (talk) 11:58, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Don't agree. This is probably own work of the author/user (btw, as it is stated). To understand that - after the official ceremony (concistory) newly created cardinals go to different rooms in the Vatican, where they can meet with all the guests invited - multiple photos can also be taken. Looking at other pictures of cardinals uploaded by this user it is clearly visible that they are not officialy staged portraits, rather photos taken by hand. I wouldn't delete these pictures, as the source (own work) is reliable for me. Kub347 (talk) 15:02, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per user:Kub347. @Andrsvoss: If you have doubt about the copyright status, please give more information. --Wdwd (talk) 10:24, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
no copyright source: https://www.msn.com/it-it/notizie/italia/venti-nuovi-cardinali-il-pi%C3%B9-giovane-ha-48-anni/ar-AA11bjG7?ocid=EMMX Andrsvoss (talk) 11:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Don't agree. This is probably own work of the author/user (btw, as it is stated). To understand that - after the official ceremony (concistory) newly created cardinals go to different rooms in the Vatican, where they can meet with all the guests invited - multiple photos can also be taken (Cardinal Marengo is in Paul VI Audience Hall). Looking at other pictures of cardinals uploaded by this user it is clearly visible that they are not officialy staged portraits, rather photos taken by hand. I wouldn't delete these pictures, as the source (own work) is reliable for me. Kub347 (talk) 14:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Don't agree, too. Per Kub347. Alex Pereiradisc 23:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion; It is a different photo too. --Wdwd (talk) 10:26, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Appears to be from https://www.szba.org/eido-frances-carney Adeletron 3030 (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Photo referenced is a different photo than my upload. Same backdrop/setting, however different photo. Gibsonbradley (talk) 17:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Scroll down? Anyway, the webp format indicates the photo was taken from a browser. You should indicate the source. And if it's your work, why upload a low quality WEBP that's downloaded from the web when you have the original? Adeletron 3030 (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 11:31, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
dubious own work; stock photo with no usage Jan Myšák (talk) 12:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 11:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Jumbotron footage is considered copyrighted Adeletron 3030 (talk) 13:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Copyright violation. This photo was not made by the uploader and I do not see a VRT ticket. JopkeB (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Not available at source, source says :© 2008-2020 This site is managed by Press service and Public information and relations department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Azerbaijan. -no indication of cc license Gbawden (talk) 13:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 11:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
No own work ---> https://www.vilavelha.es.gov.br/noticias/2022/03/vila-velha-inicia-ampliacao-da-iluminacao-publica-em-pontos-inexistentes-37558. Community website of Vila Velha, state Espirito Santo, Brazil. No copyright sign © found or further information. Source wrongly stated, permission missing. SD|F5? Nemracc (talk) 13:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 11:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Professional headshot with no exif, unlikely to be own work, Gbawden (talk) 14:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, COM:PCP. --Wdwd (talk) 11:36, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Claimed as cc but damejidlo.cz says (c) Needs otrs
- File:DM McD 1.jpg
- File:Filip Fingl SV.jpg
- File:Filip Fingl VD.jpg
- File:DJ kancelar.jpg
- File:DJ Logo.jpg
- File:DameJidlo logo.png
Gbawden (talk) 14:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
copyvio upload see data which read " Fajah Hanna - Nicole Lourens portret" thus photographer is Nicole Lourens and not Fajah herself that is claimed wrongly Hoyanova (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 13:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by VWdeMexico (talk · contribs)
[edit]Historic photos, probably from VW Mexico archives, not own work, needs OTRS
- File:Hans H. Barschkis, CEO Volkswagen.jpg
- File:Hans H. Barschkis, Vorstandsvorsitzender Volkswagen 1980.jpg
- File:Hans H. Barschkis VW CEO.jpg
Gbawden (talk) 14:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:03, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Teensouthpr1 (talk · contribs)
[edit]One claims to have a free license at https://www.girlsabovesociety.org/#!snapshots/c6as but it clearly says (C) at source, the other is claimed as own work but has name of photographer in exif
Gbawden (talk) 14:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:04, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Clearly photoshopped, needs OTRS Gbawden (talk) 14:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:05, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
incorrect title with no incoming links; make room for new, correct image Nick Number (talk) 15:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Unused and implausible redirect/G2. --Wdwd (talk) 13:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
There is already uploaded another image with the same name. For update the logo in the wiki page i must upload the logo with another name. Thanks It s Blackjack (talk) 15:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Wdwd (talk) 13:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Copyvio : https://www.facebook.com/NeshmaChemburkarAlways (profile banner) Wyslijp16 (talk) 15:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:08, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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Copyvio. Not own work. Image is made by Kris Van de Sande, professional photographer. A mirrored version of the image can be found on https://www.streekproduct.be/producten/hasseltse-graanjenever . Image was uploaded by a user DavyJacobs, who seems to be director of the Jenever Museum in Hasselt. If the museum owns the copyright, it should be made clear in an OTRS ticket. Henxter (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- I have contacted Davy Jacobs, he has informed me he will try to solve this problem. MarcoSwart (talk) 08:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 13:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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G7. По желанию автора или человека, загрузившего изображение Denis Ovsiannikov (talk) 17:55, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
{{speedydelete|G7}} Denis Ovsiannikov (talk) 10:24, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Image does not qualify for G7-speedy, as it was uploaded in 2019. --Túrelio (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
G7 Denis Ovsiannikov (talk) 17:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: not a recent upload, file in use. --Wdwd (talk) 07:21, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
{{speedydelete|G7}} Denis Ovsiannikov (talk) 10:24, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Image does not qualify for G7-speedy, as it was uploaded in 2019. --Túrelio (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- it does not matter Denis Ovsiannikov (talk) 16:22, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: not a recent upload, file is in use. --Wdwd (talk) 07:23, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
G7. По желанию автора или человека, загрузившего изображение Ovsiannikov999 (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
{{speedydelete|G7}} Ovsiannikov999 (talk) 10:23, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Image does not qualify for G7-speedy, as it was uploaded in 2019. --Túrelio (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: not a recent upload, file is in use. --Wdwd (talk) 07:25, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Very miniscule image of a bus, At 110x96 not a great deal can be seen, Thanks –Davey2010Talk 17:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Wdwd (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
(Renominating per guidance given to me at AN[1]) Not educationally useful - Very miniscule image of a bus - We have much larger images of this vehicle here, here, here, here and here, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
- Comment It's not very useful, but you can't nominate this repeatedly, 3 days after every time it's not deleted. Why don't you give up and do something more productive? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:16, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek I never said I was going too did I?, And how is nominating a tiny image for deletion not productive?, Had you bothered to ask I would've told you that I went to AN over this image and was told I needed to provide images proving we had images of this vehicle in larger sizes.... so that's what I have done .... By all accounts my rationale for deletion is 1000x better than the previous one. I would suggest you go and do something productive instead of leaving pointless comments at DRs. –Davey2010Talk 11:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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- It's not very useful to nominate images for deletion repeatedly, but seeing whether there's a way to save potentially useful images from deletion is productive. To be clear, I'm not opposed to deleting this image for the reasons you offered this time or last time, but I also don't see why it's that important to delete that repeatedly nominating it is worth anyone's time. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's your opinion. In cases such as this I would argue it's absolutely fine to renominate the image providing your rationale is an improvement or clearer to the last one which in this specific case it is, That being said 2nd nom would be my limit I certainly have no intention or desire to keep renominating the same file over and over again but as explained this was only renominated due to the guidance given to me at AN.
- Again there's no usefulness to this image, As an inclusionist/keepist I always try and find means and ways of keeping images and my uploads prove that.
- You bang on about me "being un-productive" yet ironically you don't do anything productive here other than make pointless comments at DRs and comment at QI/FP/VI nominations ..... I do a damn sight more on this project in a day than you do in a year. So unless you're going to actually !vote here then I would kindly suggest you leave the DR and go and pester someone else. –Davey2010Talk 19:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for misjudging your intentions. I also pass a bunch of nominations at QIC and cause many VIC nominations to pass by being the lone supporter of them without nominating any of my own photos, so one could argue that's selfless on my part. I also nominate some photos (of course always by others), mostly at FPC. And if you think all my comments at DR are "pointless", OK, whatever. As for voting on this, if there's no feature of this bus that needs documentation, even in such a tiny picture, I would indeed support deletion. Have a nice day. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- "if there's no feature of this bus that needs documentation, even in such a tiny picture, I would indeed support deletion" - You could've said that 19 hours ago and saved us both the need to keep coming here. You have a nice day too. –Davey2010Talk 20:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're right. I'm sorry; my remarks were truly annoying. I'll try to be more careful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:10, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- "if there's no feature of this bus that needs documentation, even in such a tiny picture, I would indeed support deletion" - You could've said that 19 hours ago and saved us both the need to keep coming here. You have a nice day too. –Davey2010Talk 20:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for misjudging your intentions. I also pass a bunch of nominations at QIC and cause many VIC nominations to pass by being the lone supporter of them without nominating any of my own photos, so one could argue that's selfless on my part. I also nominate some photos (of course always by others), mostly at FPC. And if you think all my comments at DR are "pointless", OK, whatever. As for voting on this, if there's no feature of this bus that needs documentation, even in such a tiny picture, I would indeed support deletion. Have a nice day. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's not very useful to nominate images for deletion repeatedly, but seeing whether there's a way to save potentially useful images from deletion is productive. To be clear, I'm not opposed to deleting this image for the reasons you offered this time or last time, but I also don't see why it's that important to delete that repeatedly nominating it is worth anyone's time. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, unusable. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:53, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Not the original work of the uploader, non-descriptive file name, description is just "cool name" Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Test Page/G1. --Wdwd (talk) 07:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Image appears to be taken from https://www.olympiazencenter.org/teacher-and-founder. Previously published images require COM:VRT tickets. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 18:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- My mistake. Gibsonbradley (talk) 18:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Old Picture, not relevant anymore. Misleading for the public. James-hill303 (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Nomination does not make any sense to me, but image is unused, no useful categorization, uncertain of any in-scope usefulness. There are 2 versions, the most recent is also seen here. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: unused personal photo, possible copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 07:32, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
VRT-permission from author Brit Maria Tael is needed. Taivo (talk) 19:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Needs to be updated 2600:100C:A213:A7A6:81E6:A4CE:7996:8E72 19:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
If it is not deleted, please add a category outlining public drinking as most Muslim-majority countries where alcohol IS legal have laws against public drinking. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:100C:A213:A7A6:C517:B27E:8A4F:AEE7 (talk) 02:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. Hint: use "Upload a new file version". --Wdwd (talk) 07:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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Empty file (corrupted?) Enyavar (talk) 19:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Deleted: per nomination/G1. --Wdwd (talk) 07:50, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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This sanctuary in Italy has been made by Julio Lafuente, who died in 2013. There is no FoP in Italy for modern architectures (in particular the ones that do not belong to the State, but to the Church).
Ruthven (msg) 19:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:50, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Sourced to [2], which has a clear notice " © Copyright 2021, All Rights Reserved". Tagged as PD by US Federal Gov't, but this is a local town gov't website (not State of Florida gov't either). Currently in use in multiple projects. Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, missing permission. --Wdwd (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
same as Lucyin Mahin 06.jpg Lucyin (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Film poster from Flickr. I doubt the Flickr uploader was authorized to upload this to Flickr under a {{Cc-zero}} license. Rosenzweig τ 20:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Appears to be the masthead photo at https://africanlandmarksafaris.com/east-africa-safaris-kenyatanzaniarwanda/safari-activities/hotels/kenya-tented-camps-and-lodges/tsavo-east Adeletron 3030 (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 07:54, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Nyemo lekuona (talk · contribs)
[edit]From an uploader whose contributions are mostly, if not entirely, taken from the web. A reverse search for File:Lions In Ruaha.webp returns a safari tourism website, though I can't confirm that it's there.
Adeletron 3030 (talk) 20:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, COM:PCP. --Wdwd (talk) 07:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
And also
EXIF credits M.CLARKE, who does not appear to be the seem person as the uploader. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, missing permission. --Wdwd (talk) 07:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Heavily edited Unsplash photo, no traceability to NASA so no justification for the PD NASA claims. If we want this image, and to claim that it's PD as NASA, then we should use the original (with source), not this. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, COM:PCP. --Wdwd (talk) 08:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
obviusly a copyvio https://displate.com/file_manager/landing_promo/DENYZEE_banner_LP_2460x780.jpg Culex (talk) 21:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bonjour Culex, Merci pour la mention. Je suis titulaire des droits d'auteurs/copyright de cette photo. Je ne comprends pas quel est le problàme avec ce média? Devrait-il provenir d'une autre source médiatique? Merci pour les informations :) Dlfn86 (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination; @Dlfn86: Please follow COM:VRTS. --Wdwd (talk) 08:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
It is a screenshot of the HBO Max homepage, a website of a service whose copyright belongs to Warner Bros. Discovery. - Victor P. (talk) 22:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Wdwd (talk) 08:03, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Uploaded into Commons in October 2014, but found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WLHuArozlA at 15.00 from March 2013. Own work is in doubt, maybe copyright violation. But maybe the work is very old? Taivo (talk) 14:58, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, no indication of great age on the image. --Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:19, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Obviously not own work, can be found in various place in the internet, including Facebook. Possibly copyrighted. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, missing information about the original artwork. --Wdwd (talk) 08:05, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Not own work, can be found in various other places in the internet (eg https://imgur.com/gallery/l85FK1F, https://www.wattpad.com/amp/508894717, https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/gend/2463869/4). HistoryofIran (talk) 22:40, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio. --Wdwd (talk) 08:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Not own work, can be found in various websites. Possibly copyrighted. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, COM:PCP. --Wdwd (talk) 08:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
COM:PACKAGING DanielPenfield (talk) 12:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Question In use. It's impossible to host photos of liquor in their bottles on this site? If so, that needs to be clarified because there are VIs of various types of drinks in their bottles. Granted, this needs better, non-red-linked categories, but that's not the question right now. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: Whether liquor bottle images are DW problem per COM:PACKAGING depends on cases, but this image is a copyright violation. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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Focus of the image is a cardboard cutout, which the Flickr user does not own the rights to. Adeletron 3030 (talk) 16:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Deleted: per nomination; DW by Flickr photographer. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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Album cover and derivative work of the original NASA image. So the NASA PD rationale is inapplicable. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Adding text doesn't make it a derivative work. Threshold of originality is not reached, therefore it should still be PD.--JTCEPB (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per above. PD background photo with simple text added - still PD. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Montevideo has no flag — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeoMauri (talk • contribs) 22:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Upload from user with multiple copyvios. They all appear to be screenshots of concerts from the same artist taken in multiple countries, with no camera metadata and extremely tight cropping.
- File:Sweetener Leg 2 Uniondale.jpg
- File:Sweetener Tour Ariana Grande O2 Arena.jpg
- File:SWT Ariana Grande O2 Arena.jpg
- File:SWT Ariana REM.jpg
- File:Ariana SWT Needy.jpg
Adeletron 3030 (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Ymblanter (talk) 19:57, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Copyright violation. It seems to me that these images show art works of artists who are not dead for at least 70 years (a lot of them are by Caputo da Roma, who was born in 1943 and was still alive in 2022, see w:it:Caputo da Roma; others were made in the 1980s and 1990s), so the art works are not in the public domain yet. AND I do not see VRT tickets (based on a sample).
File:Caputo da Roma - parsifal 2007.jpg- File:Caputo da Roma - La Pietà 1989.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Rerum Natura 1990.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Topkapi 1993.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Orlando 2007.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Hillary 2007.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - L'Unione delle menti 1990.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Paride 1992.jpg
- File:Caputo da Roma - Parsifal 2007.jpg
File:Caputo da Roma - Geisha 1993.jpg- File:H.J.Duell 1991 Lago di Bolsena - Tramonto.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell 1991 Allegorie - Vienna.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell 1982 Autoritratto con Aspasio.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell 1996 Bulicame.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell 1992 La Regina delle mosche.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell 1995 Vathek - fecit.jpg
- File:H.J.Duell (1989) Vitorchiano - Veduta da Via Marzio 46.jpg
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JopkeB (talk) 12:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Ticket:2022083010013696 has been received regarding to file(s) mentioned here. --Krdbot 17:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)- kept all the files starting with "Caputo da Roma" per VRT ticket. Requesting more information for the others. --Ruthven (msg) 10:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- I have just accepted permission for “File:H.J.Duell 1991 Lago di Bolsena - Tramonto.jpg” under ticket:2022083010013696. Ruthven (msg) 08:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per VRT. Ruthven (msg) 08:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Copyright violation. The uploader admits that he is NOT the owner of this photo. He found it on the facebook page of this person, and there is no permission to use it. See this edit. Erik Wannee (talk) 07:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- There is an VRTS email received for “File:Google photo.jpg” but not processed yet, ticket:2022090510007775. --Jcb (talk) 18:44, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Kept: permission received on VRT. Photo renamed to File:Ahmad Resh.jpg. --Ellywa (talk) 22:52, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
使用する予定がありません 中島ゆたか (talk) 14:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: "I don't use it anymore" is no valid reason for deletion. CC ライセンスは撤回できないため、使用予定がないことは削除理由にはなりません. --Yasu (talk) 15:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
out of scope, not encyclopedic. Taichi (talk) 01:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep In use. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete 2015 UK document, COM:DW, no indication uploader has rights to license. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, not in use and DW. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:27, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
This is not a painting by Veruda, and does not appears even on his recent catalogue raisonnè: http://www.fondazionecrtrieste.it/volumi-arte/umberto-veruda/ Is almost certantly a false, catawiki is infamous for selling false painting by artists, never trust this source. Using the catalogue raisonnè you can see at pp.277-9, Cat.Numbers 208-217 how the artist painted some portraits during this period. Niketto sr. (talk) 17:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- It certainly wouldn't be hard to forge his signature. If you're sure it's not his then, of course, I have no objection to deleting it. WQUlrich (talk) 19:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I looked at the catalogue. This portrait seems a bit weak by comparison. WQUlrich (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for your cooperation! It is so hard to find kind and fast-responding people like you!.
- Also you need help with some of your artworks uploads, for example adding information, as I just did on: File:Wachter-Redhead.jpg , I will be glad to help!
- Niketto sr. (talk) 21:19, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but I've uploaded several thousand images over the last eight years. That would be quite a project! WQUlrich (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- I looked at the catalogue. This portrait seems a bit weak by comparison. WQUlrich (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Before I forget, here's my official vote. WQUlrich (talk) 01:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Files in Category:Olivia Rodrigo in 2022
[edit]Images uploaded by a user with a history of copyvios, plus their crops. Other uploads by the same user were screenshots and copies of images/videos from Twitter. These are all relatively low res, missing EXIF data.
- File:OR Sour Tour 4 (cropped).jpg
- File:OR Sour Tour 4.jpg
- File:OR Sour Tour 8 (cropped).jpg
- File:OR Sour Tour 8.jpg
- File:OR Sour Tour.jpg
- File:OR ST (cropped).jpg
- File:OR ST.jpg
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Adeletron 3030 (talk) 17:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete they are all copyvios, found sources and have added them. --Migebert (talk) 19:18, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: 08:54, 16 September 2022, by Yann (as per COM:SPEEDY.). --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:33, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Photographer not identified. Hosted on Flickr by the subject hence it's likely Flickr washing (unlikely that in 1961 that this would have been a self-portrait) Schwede66 19:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment What's so impossible with a self-portrait in 1961? Tripod and self-timer were already invented back in 1961. -- Herbert Ortner (talk) 17:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. It’s one of several photos from that Flickr stream. Others are more obvious. Schwede66 19:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- I am Eva de Jong-Duldig.
- I posted this photo on Flickr.
- The photo was taken by a friend in Israel in 1961 for me and my future husband Henri de Jong. The friend is no longer alive. 2001:8003:404C:F400:BDB7:7793:D3D6:B6C2 08:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. It’s one of several photos from that Flickr stream. Others are more obvious. Schwede66 19:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. Needs permission from photographer's heir, see COM:VRT. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Photographer not identified. Hosted on Flickr by the subject hence it's likely Flickr washing (most unlikely that this would have been a self-portrait). Schwede66 19:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:36, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Photographer not identified. Hosted on Flickr by the subject hence it's likely Flickr washing (unlikely that in the early 1940s that this would have been a self-portrait by the family). Schwede66 19:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Nick-D (talk) 10:15, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am Eva de Jong-Duldig. I posted this photo onto Flickr.
- It was taken by 'Sister Burns' in an internment camp in Tatura Australia and given to my parents Karl and Slawa Duldig. All these persons are now deceased and I inherited the photo. 2001:8003:404C:F400:BDB7:7793:D3D6:B6C2 07:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Photographer not identified. Hosted on Flickr by the subject hence it's likely Flickr washing (obviously not a self-portrait). Schwede66 19:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am Eva de Jong-Duldig.
- I posted this photo onto Flickr.
- The photo was given to me in Israel in 1957 and I do not know who took the photo. 2001:8003:404C:F400:BDB7:7793:D3D6:B6C2 07:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, needs COM:VRT from author. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Obvious case of Flickr washing. Schwede66 19:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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Photographer not identified. Hosted on Flickr by one of the subjects and thus likely a case of Flickr washing. Schwede66 19:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- I am Eva de Jong-Duldig.
- I posted this photo onto Flickr.
- The photo with Marlene Gerson was taken at Wimbledon in 1961 and given to me.
- I do not know who took the photo. 2001:8003:404C:F400:BDB7:7793:D3D6:B6C2 08:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, needs COM:VRT from author. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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This file was initially tagged by Miniwark as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Photography of a non-PD artwork made by Jean Tinguely & Niki de Saint Phalle in 1983
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion about whether de minimis might apply here. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:29, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete I think than the fountain is the main subject of this photo, even if the Saint-Merri church and nearby buildings are also shown. Miniwark (talk) 10:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Question There are several artworks in the water. Are they all considered part of the same fountain? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, the fountain is the whole basin and the 16 sculptures, see Stravinsky Fountain. It's almost impossible to take a photograph of the bassin alone without one of the sculptures. Miniwark (talk) 17:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete This is outside the scope of Commons.
- Commons is here as a repository of free media. We are not here for important, notable reportage. If anyone thinks that the Stravinsky Fountain meets such a standard (I would support that), then that's a task for each Wikipedia to make a claim under fair use. (See en:File:Stravinsky fountain paris.jpg) This would be a good claim and I would support that too. But we can't push this subject, and its obvious IP protection (see COM:FOP – French law is restrictive on FoP generally) to claim that Commons can somehow overrule such protection.
- As there are separate artworks, by two distinct artists, in this fountain then I would though support two fair-use images on the Wikipedia articles (there are some on en:WP who claim falsely that this is forbidden). Andy Dingley (talk) 20:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- That makes sense. Let's give Wikipedias a couple of weeks to upload this photo locally and then delete. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --GPSLeo (talk) 17:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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This file is "encyclopedic", but it doesn't have any information where was taken, on Flickr page too, even a country. Google Images and other services aren't helpful in this case. So we should delete it since we aren't sure that this is FoP country. Matlin (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Kept: now categorized and covered by FoP switzerland. --GPSLeo (talk) 17:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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2005 US artwork. If the uploader is not the artist/copyright holder, they do not have authority to license. Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 08:45, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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Stated license is not really believable or true. Maybe it can pass as sufficiently old? Uploader is a Flickrwashing sockpuppet. If that should be retagged or deleted, then see also https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles&offset=20220101133233%7CDinner_party_J_Elliott_%28358796507%29.jpg&user=Siloepic Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 20:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Main account of uploader is also blocked, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Allknowingroger Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 20:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 13:48, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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This file was initially tagged by SusanLesch as Speedy (db) and the most recent rationale was: -spam John Cummings (talk) 09:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per COM:ADVERT. Final part is a direct request for money. See 4:50 and on. -SusanLesch (talk) 12:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC) (edited -21:05, 30 September 2022 (UTC))
- Comment Currently in use in 4 projects -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep its the only (as far as I'm aware) open license example of him speaking. I don't think that him talking about why he supports an organisation is grounds for the video to be deleted. John Cummings (talk) 15:12, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Kept: COM:INUSE. --IronGargoyle (talk) 15:11, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Przelijpdahl (talk · contribs)
[edit]This photo and its crops are uploaded with the {{PD-BrazilGov}} license. Per Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Brazil this template is for works published or commissioned by a Brazilian government (federal, state, or municipal) prior to 1983, or the text of a treaty, convention, law, decree, regulation, judicial decision, or other official enactment. The source indicates that this photo was taken in 2015 and is not published in the text of a treaty, convention, law, decree, regulation, judicial decision, or other official enactment. The source does appear to be a government Flickr photo stream, but on Flickr this photo is marked as "All Rights Reserved".
- File:Deputado GeanLoureiro.jpg
- File:Deputado GeanLoureiro (cropped).jpg
- File:Deputado GeanLoureiro (cropped2).jpg
- File:Deputado GeanLoureiro (cropped3).jpg
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—RP88 (talk) 22:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- @RP88: Hello. You are correct, all of these files were uploaded by the Legislative Assembly of Santa Catarina’s profile on Flickr, which makes them public domain according to PD-BrazilGov — despite what is says on Flickr. Probably this happened out of a clumsy input on the reservation of right during upload, but as we all know, the legislation prevails and it makes clear that these photos cannot be “all rights reserved”. Przelijpdahl (talk) 01:46, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @RP88 is everything ok? Przelijpdahl (talk) 16:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Przelijpdahl (talk · contribs)
[edit]These files were not first published in Brazil before 1 March 1989, as would be required for {{PD-Brazil-URAA}} to render these in the public domain in the United States. Rather, these are presumed copyrighted in the United States by Hirtle's chart because they were published after 1 March 1989, even though they were in the public domain in Brazil at the time of their publication. As such, these photos are copyrighted in the United States. There is no evidence of a free license, so I propose that these files be deleted.
- File:Angela Amin 1994 (cropped).jpg
- File:Paulo Afonso Vieira 1994 (cropped).jpg
- File:Esperidião Amin 1990 (cropped).jpg
- File:Paulo Afonso Vieira 1994.jpg
- File:Gean Loureiro 1994.jpg
- File:Angela Amin 1994.jpg
- File:Jorginho Mello 1994.jpg
- File:Dalírio Beber 1994.jpg
- File:Jorge Bornhausen e Fernando Henrique Cardoso 1994.jpg
- File:Nelson Wedekin 1990.jpg
- File:Esperidião Amin 1990.jpg
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— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 18:22, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk PD-Brazil-URAA explicitly says that "Photographic works not considered to be "artistic creations" produced before 20 June 1998" are Public domain according to Brazilian law. Przelijpdahl (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- I agree! However, if you read my DR nominating statement, you'll notice that I explicitly mention that the files were in the public domain in Brazil at the time of their publication. The problem is its copyright status in the United States rather than in Brazil.
- The {{PD-Brazil-URAA}} template states that This work is in the public domain both in Brazil and in the United States because it was first published in Brazil (and not published in the U.S. within 30 days) and it was first published before 1 March 1989 without complying with U.S. copyright formalities (underline mine). The reason for this, as COM:HIRTLE explains, is that for works first published outside the U.S. by citizens of foreign nations or U.S. Citizens Living Abroad, works published 1 March 1989 or later and without a copyright notice follow the U.S. publication chart to determine duration of copyright. When you look at that chart, works published from 1 March 1989 through 2002 and created after 1977 are not in the public domain in the United States except in the case that:
- There is a known author with a known date of death (in which the copyright expires 70 years after the death of author); or
- For works with unknown authors, 95 years after publication or 120 years after creation, whichever expires first.
- I see no evidence that the creators of any of these works died over 70 years ago, nor that these works were created over 120 years ago. As such, I believe these are copyrighted in the United States (and have been since the time of their publication), even though they are in the public domain in Brazil. For this reason, the files must be deleted in line with COM:PD. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 19:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- That’s preposterous, you admitted yourself that these files are PD in Brazil. You could at least put it under a “restricted content” banner and not allow its distribution on American wikipedia, instead of deleting these photos. Przelijpdahl (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- As Commons:Licensing says in the big gray box at the top of it,
Wikimedia Commons only accepts media
- that are explicitly freely licensed, or
- that are in the public domain in at least the United States and in the source country of the work.
- The Wikimedia Foundation is based in the United States and is subject to U.S. copyright laws, so we cannot host works that both lack an explicit license and are copyrighted in the United States, even if they are public domain in some non-U.S. country. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:05, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- That’s preposterous, you admitted yourself that these files are PD in Brazil. You could at least put it under a “restricted content” banner and not allow its distribution on American wikipedia, instead of deleting these photos. Przelijpdahl (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- the policy says:
- « that are explicitly freely licensed, or that are in the public domain in at least the United States and in the source country of the work »
- The current files may not be in PD in America. But they are explicitly freely licensed with the tag URAA as you said it yourself, so there is no reason to delete these files. Przelijpdahl (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Where did I say that the photographs are freely licensed? Have the copyright holders in the United States explicitly released them under one? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- "Freely licensed" refers to Creative Commons licensing. The uploader isn't claiming that they are freely licensed, they are saying that they're public domain, and then mixing up public domain and freely licensed. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 12:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Where did I say that the photographs are freely licensed? Have the copyright holders in the United States explicitly released them under one? — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 07:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Przelijpdahl (talk · contribs)
[edit]According to the description, “Retrato obtido através da Secretaria de Comunicação Social da Prefeitura de Florianópolis, que garantiu o licenciamento da fotografia para disponibilização na Wikimedia Commons.” But no COM:VRT volunteer has confirmed it.
- File:Prefeito Dário Berger Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Sergio Grando Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Topazio Silveira Neto Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Bulcão Viana Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Gean Loureiro Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Cesar Souza Jr Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeita Angela Amin Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Edison Andrino Retrato oficial.jpg
- File:Prefeito Esperidião Amin Retrato oficial.jpg
RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RodRabelo7: What are you talking about man? If they are not, then how to contact these volontary guys to check it out? Przelijpdahl (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Przelijpdahl, a “Secretaria de Comunicação Social da Prefeitura de Florianópolis” deve encaminhar um e-mail para o COM:VRT (permissions-commons
wikimedia.org) declarando que permite o uso das imagens sob determinada licença livre. Penso que talvez e-mails da secretaria enviados para você possam ser uma evidência alternativa. @DarwIn e @Albertoleoncio podem ajudá-lo melhor, já que não sou voluntário do VRT. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Entendi, obrigado!! Abs Przelijpdahl (talk) 20:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Przelijpdahl, a “Secretaria de Comunicação Social da Prefeitura de Florianópolis” deve encaminhar um e-mail para o COM:VRT (permissions-commons
- @RodRabelo7: What are you talking about man? If they are not, then how to contact these volontary guys to check it out? Przelijpdahl (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- @RodRabelo7 Próxima vez que apanhar casos desses simplesmente marque como sem permissão, dá muito menos trabalho e já tem as instruções todas no aviso... Darwin Ahoy! 20:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. The source website has no free license, and no permission has been processed by COM:VRT. If an email arrives, the files can be undeleted. Ruthven (msg) 10:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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La devise de Gallargues-le-Montueux est « De gueules, à un coq d’or ; au chef cousu d’azur, chargé de trois rocs d’échiquier d’or.», ici il y a 3 fleur de lys, ce n'est pas le blason officiel de la page : https://gallargues-le-montueux.fr/fr/journal/98-histoire-h%C3%A9raldique-officielle-de-gallargues-le-montueux. Hugosacha (talk) 05:37, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Hors-sujet mais ce n'est pas une « devise », c'est un blasonnement. De plus l'avantage avec Commons c'est que l'on peut écraser les fichiers, donc au lieu de le supprimer, il est préférable de juste...le corriger (ce qui a été fait).
Kept: no valid reason for deletion, file corrected and in use. --IronGargoyle (talk) 14:55, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
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See COM:VPC#Copyrighted Logos and according to deletion request c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:2022 European Championships Logos Nordat (talk) 12:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --IronGargoyle (talk) 21:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Copyright violation. This poster was made in 1968, so the maker cannot be dead for at least 70 years, so this poster is not in the public domain. And I do not see a VRT ticket. JopkeB (talk) 12:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Si un VRT ticket peut mettre un terme à ce malentendu, je serais ravi de l'utiliser.
- Veuillez m'indiquer la procédure afin d'annuler cette prétendue violation d'un copyright. Jeanou (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Voir: Commons:Volunteer Response Team/fr. --JopkeB (talk) 14:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Merci pour l'information, c'est plus clair et je vais me documenter sur la façon de créer un ticket VRT pour l'avenir.
- Au sujet du poster, il faut savoir que les ayants-droits, la famille du créateur que je connais par ailleurs (l'auteur est décédé en 1997), n'a aucune revendication sur le copyright de ce poster. Celui-ci n'a jamais et ne fera jamais l'objet d'une quelconque revendication commerciale.
- Comprenez bien que nous parlons ici d'un objet qui a servit à la promotion d'un événement qui eut lieu il y a 54 ans, dans un cadre entièrement bénévole (l'auteur n'a pas été rémunéré pour son travail et n'a jamais demandé de copyright) qui dépeint une action collective socio-culturelle. A nouveau, nous sommes dans le cadre socio-culturel à l'opposé complet du cadre commercial.
- J'aurais souhaité conserver ce document d'autant plus que je prépare d'autres pages qui gravitent pareillement autour des festivités bénévoles de Theux et que je désire illustrer avec des posters du même acabit.
- Ainsi, je suis ouvert à répondre aux demandes de Wikipédia pour que cette illustration et les suivantes puissent embellir mes articles. En effet, si ces illustrations ne sont pas nécessaires, leur présence ajoute de la profondeur et de la pertinence aux articles.
- Donc, concrètement, si je change les références de copyright sous le poster, est-ce que cela suffit ? Jeanou (talk) 07:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bonjour, juste une réponse rapide, d'autres que moi vous donnerons probablement une réponse plus précise, mais il faudrait au moins :
- indiquer le vrai nom de l'auteur de l’œuvre (au lieu du votre)
- indiquer une source plus précise, ici probablement le template {{Scan}} (si vous avez scanné l'affiche)
- Mais ça ne suffira pas, il faudra quand même une confirmation écrite (mail ou courrier papier via le système VRT) que les ayants acceptent de diffuser l’œuvre avec la licence CC-BY-SA-4 (ou une autre plus permissive encore comme CC-0)
- Je reconnais que ces histoires d'autorisation, licences, etc. peuvent-être frustrantes, surtout que votre volonté est de bien faire en préservant un patrimoine (merci à vous) mais commencer à faire des exceptions sur commons, c'est risquer à la fois pour le projet, mais aussi pour ses utilisateurs (qui ont le droit de réutiliser les images du projet, par exemple dans un livre, une pub, une autre oeuvre d'art, etc.)
- Miniwark (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- C'est exactement comme l'écrit Miniwark. Ajouts: Peu importe que le créateur n'ait jamais revendiqué le droit d'auteur; il a obtenu le droit d'auteur automatiquement; qu'il n'a pas été payé pour faire l'affiche n'est pas pertinent; aussi le contexte dans lequel l'affiche a été réalisée, commercial ou socio-culturel, n'est pas pertinent. Après sa mort, le droit d'auteur est automatiquement passé à ses héritiers, même s'il n'y a jamais eu de revendication commerciale. Le droit d'auteur dure 70 ans après la mort du créateur. Voir Copyright rules by territory/France/. Afin de placer une image sur Commons, les héritiers doivent donner leur permission. Vous devrez également envoyer un mail à l'équipe VRT pour les autres affiches de ce créateur. Il peut donc être plus simple d'en demander un consentement général des héritiers, qui s'applique également aux futures affiches que vous souhaitez télécharger. Chaque fois que vous téléchargez une affiche, vous pouvez envoyer un e-mail directement à l'équipe VRT et vous référer à cette autorisation. --JopkeB (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Je vais me plier à l'exercice.
- Existe-t-il un template de ce type de demande ? Comme une lettre pré-écrite qu'il faut remplir avec les infos afin de l'envoyer aux ayants-droits ?
- Merci d'avance de votre aide. Jeanou (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Voir: Commons:Volunteer Response Team/fr. Mais si vous veulent un consentement général des héritiers, qui s'applique également aux futures affiches que vous souhaitez télécharger, alors le texte doit être ajusté. --JopkeB (talk) 05:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- C'est exactement comme l'écrit Miniwark. Ajouts: Peu importe que le créateur n'ait jamais revendiqué le droit d'auteur; il a obtenu le droit d'auteur automatiquement; qu'il n'a pas été payé pour faire l'affiche n'est pas pertinent; aussi le contexte dans lequel l'affiche a été réalisée, commercial ou socio-culturel, n'est pas pertinent. Après sa mort, le droit d'auteur est automatiquement passé à ses héritiers, même s'il n'y a jamais eu de revendication commerciale. Le droit d'auteur dure 70 ans après la mort du créateur. Voir Copyright rules by territory/France/. Afin de placer une image sur Commons, les héritiers doivent donner leur permission. Vous devrez également envoyer un mail à l'équipe VRT pour les autres affiches de ce créateur. Il peut donc être plus simple d'en demander un consentement général des héritiers, qui s'applique également aux futures affiches que vous souhaitez télécharger. Chaque fois que vous téléchargez une affiche, vous pouvez envoyer un e-mail directement à l'équipe VRT et vous référer à cette autorisation. --JopkeB (talk) 15:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bonjour, juste une réponse rapide, d'autres que moi vous donnerons probablement une réponse plus précise, mais il faudrait au moins :
- Voir: Commons:Volunteer Response Team/fr. --JopkeB (talk) 14:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Comment If deleted, the extract File:Le Franchimontois de 1968.jpg should be deleted as well. Also File:1968 - attestation participation Marche 600.jpg, File:Oriflamme 540e (2008).jpg, File:Oriflamme 7e marche (2013).jpg, File:Marche aux Flambeaxu (2014).jpg, File:Affiche marche aux flambeaux Theux 2011 cadre.jpg, File:Inscription marche Franchimontois 1968.jpg and File:Marche aux Flambeaux (2021).jpg all featuring essentially the same artwork. --Rosenzweig τ 19:26, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Deleted: The author of the artwork is René Lahaye, who lived 1917–2012 per [3] [4] [5]. Since there has been no response by the uploader for almost 6 months and apparently no VRT permission was sent, I've gone ahead and deleted the files. They can be restored in 2083. --Rosenzweig τ 16:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Looks like a film or TV still, appeared online a few years ago at https://www.tip.co.il/%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%9D-%D7%94%D7%91%D7%AA-%D7%A1%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%95-%D7%A9%D7%9C-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%9F-%D7%A9%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA/ Lord Belbury (talk) 18:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- זו תמונה מקורית הכתבת ביקשה תמונה ושלחתי לה את התמונה הזו אין פה בעיה של זכויות יוצרים 79.179.94.127 13:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 01:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Symbols of Russian-occupied Oblasts of Ukraine
[edit]- File:Проект герба Херсонской области 2022.png
- File:Coat of Arms of the Kherson Military-Civilian Administration.png
- File:Russian occupied Kherson Oblast coat of arms.png
- File:Coat of Arms of Occupied Kherson.svg
File:Coat of Arms of the Zaporozhye Military-Civil Administration.svgFile:Flag of Russian occupied Kharkiv Oblast.svgFile:Coat of Arms of Russian Administration of Kharkov Oblast.svg- File:Snihurvkia (russian occupied) seal.png
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Wrong license? Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Kharkiv and Mykolaiv Oblasts are parts of Ukraine, not Russia; if occupational administrations made some symbols, they are not official symbols of regions of Russia, thus they are not eligible under {{PD-RU-exempt}} (neither under {{PD-UA-exempt}} of course). Wikisaurus (talk) 17:49, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, specifically concerning the comment "if occupational administrations made some symbols, they are not official symbols of regions of Russia", if Russia treats these as their own regions and the Russian government recognises them as their own regions, then how are they not Russian regions under Russian law? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- There is no Russian laws that recognize its own occupational authorities in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Kharkiv and Mykolaiv Oblasts. You can compare it with DPR and LPR: they were created by Russia in 2014 and recognized by it only in 2022.
- The difference is that DPR and LPR from the beginning were proclaimed as de facto states, so they obtained their own civil codes with their own copyright laws, thus we (probably) can use {{PD-DPR-exempt}} and {{PD-LPR-exempt}}. For the time being, there is no Kherson People Republic and so on, thus there is no corresponding civil codes and copyright laws, thus no {{PD-KPR-exempt}} to use. Wikisaurus (talk) 13:09, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Surely now that technically Zaporizhzhia and Kherson lies under de-facto Russian law, (due to annexation), it is in {{PD-RU-exempt}}? Kaliper1 (talk) 03:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Since now the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are officially part of Russia, Russian legislation applies to these coats of arms. 95.52.125.131 17:41, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. --Krd 15:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
File:Coat of Arms of the Kherson Military-Civilian Administration.png is based on: File:COA of Kherson 1803 - Color.svg, File:Кёне - Украшения герба губернии 1.svg and File:Кёне - Украшения герба области и граноначальства.svg, which are placed under a free license. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, concerning File:Coat of Arms of the Kherson Military-Civilian Administration.png, you do have a point on copyright laws concerning the Kherson MCA CoA. Not because of conflicting or wronged copyright status, but due to ambiguity with copyright laws within the occupation. From all I know, De-jure Ukrainian laws in the occupation don't apply. and De-facto Russian laws technically don't apply either ? In a legal sense, due to the territorial status of the occupation & no government/MCA reference to copyright laws within the occupations, There is a sense of ambiguity that has yet to be resolved. So the matter of whether it abides by Ukrainian laws or Russian laws, it's still in all technicality a part of the public domain. Since the later versions made by me (other than Elserbio00), were made as a rendition and not the original symbol displayed on https://khogov.ru/ site. It should fall under: {self|cc-by-sa-4.0}. Kaliper1 (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- About "There is a sense of ambiguity that has yet to be resolved" take a look at COM:PCP: "where there is significant doubt about the freedom of a particular file, it should be deleted". Wikisaurus (talk) 13:12, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Ah, now I see why. Kaliper1 (talk) 15:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- About "There is a sense of ambiguity that has yet to be resolved" take a look at COM:PCP: "where there is significant doubt about the freedom of a particular file, it should be deleted". Wikisaurus (talk) 13:12, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. --Krd 15:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
File:Проект герба Херсонской области 2022.png and File:Russian occupied Kherson Oblast coat of arms.png
[edit]File:Проект герба Херсонской области 2022.png and File:Russian occupied Kherson Oblast coat of arms.png is based on: File:COA of Kherson 1803 - Color.svg, File:Coat of arms of Chernomorie Governorate 1914.svg, which are placed under a free license. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, the underlying works were already free, so I don't see what the licensing issues are here. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, this rendition falls & licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International or {self|cc-by-sa-4.0}. the File:COA of Kherson 1803 - Color.svg & File:Coat of arms of Chernomorie Governorate 1914.svg is under a free licence. There is nothing wrong here. Kaliper1 (talk) 03:52, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
This is the uploader's own work. What are the licensing issues here? --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:08, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Uploader's own work. Nothing wrong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaliper1 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- If it was invented by the uploader, then it should not be titled "Coat of Arms of Occupied Kherson", but I doubt it is this case takes place.
- If it is the coat of arms of Russian-occupied Kherson, then there is some author who created this coat of arms, while the uploader's work is only the reproduction of this image in .SVG. Who is the original author and is the work copyrighted? Wikisaurus (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Info: I don't think it has an author, the original design was created in based of a collective work originally done On October 3, 1803 (which is exempted from copyrighted due to its age); wherein the emblem of Kherson was approved, (which was also the emblem of the Kherson province): “In the shield, which has a golden field, a black, two-headed, crowned eagle is depicted, which holds a laurel branch in its right claw, and a flame in its left; on the chest of the eagle, in a blue shield, there is a golden cross, with four rays in the upper part, and a small cross at the bottom”.[6] or see its wikipage here: Герб Херсонской губернии- .
- I think both File:Coat of Arms of Occupied Kherson.svg & File:Russian occupied Kherson Oblast coat of arms.png was made as a modern interpretation of the original 1803 design. And plausibly used reference based on this design. Before the change to the current emblem used in the wiki, it used to be this, as Russian sources at the beginning of the invasion only states that the occupational forces uses the 1803 emblem. Hence might be why it was titled "Coat of Arms of Occupied Kherson". But once the official MCA telegram group, propaganda bill boards and the official Khogov.ru site was found bearing the same emblem, the emblem's design over of the site was used instead. This might explain the title, as it was a left over on how little info there was on the emblem of the Kherson MCA at the beginning of this invasion. Kaliper1 (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
This is a copy of a file File:Coat of arms of Zaporizhia Oblast.svg placed under a free license. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, sometimes identical works have different titles because the same work can fulfill different functions, like the Flag of the Taliban Vs. the current flag of Afghanistan are identical, but these files are still separate because they fulfill different functions in different articles. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: They have one main difference — the name of the region is translated into Russian in the case of the administration. Avburg (talk) 07:47, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, the change is clearly too trivial to be protected by the copyright laws, so it is a PD as long as the original File:Coat of arms of Zaporizhia Oblast.svg is PD. I withdraw this file from my nomination, please check that I modified the license correctly. Wikisaurus (talk) 13:20, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: withdrawn. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a derivative work (collage) from drawings that are placed under a free license. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I withdraw this file from my nomination, see #File:Coat of Arms of Russian Administration of Kharkov Oblast.svg, please check that I modified the license correctly. Wikisaurus (talk) 12:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Kept: withdrawn. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
This is a derivative work (collage) from drawings that are placed under a free license. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, the underlying works are free so it's unlikely that this work can be "fully" copyrighted, so it's a free image. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:05, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Great Brightstar: why did you name this file "Coat of Arms of Russian Administration of Kharkov Oblast"? https://khogov.ru/ uses another image. Can you provide RS that it is indeed the coat of arms of the occupational administration of Kharkiv Oblast? Wikisaurus (talk) 13:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- This was made following a PNG file made by another user.
Since khogov.ru used another coat of arms, let me see what to implement.-- Great Brightstar (talk) 14:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC) - Am I see something wrong? khogov.ru is Russian site for the Kherson civil-military administration, which used distinct arms based on the 1803 arms of Kherson. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 15:55, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Great Brightstar, thanks for your thoroughness, I confused Kharkiv and Kherson! As I see from the statement of the head of the occupational administration of Kharkiv Oblast, the coat of arms of the occupational administration of Kharkiv Oblast is a golden double-headed eagle with a heraldic shield and the orb in the left paw (probably File:Coat of Arms of the Russian Federation 2.svg, which is {{PD-RU-exempt}}), while the heraldic shield contains the coat of arms of en:Kharkov Governorate, which is {{PD-RusEmpire}}. As it is a derivative work of two PDs, I withdraw this file from my nomination, please check that I modified the license correctly. Wikisaurus (talk) 12:03, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- This was made following a PNG file made by another user.
Kept: withdrawn. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 01:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: http://www.nerit.gr/eidiseis/oikonomia/maniatis-70-000-prasines-thesis-ergasias-mechri-2020/ Broken source. Yann (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Digging around the Internet Archive of this source, I find a description that says "The New Hellenic Radio Internet Television (NERIT), under its founding charter 4173/26.07.2013, is the official public broadcaster of the country." So something like the Greek version of BBC Radio. On the same page I also find in the footer a "CC BY-SA" logo (linking to the Greek translation of CC BY-SA 3.0). Under those circumstances I would say that the given source being a deadlink is insufficient reason to delete. It is plausible that the photo was released at the time as CC BY-SA 3.0, so even if the precise URL given as source has not been archived it takes some actually contrary evidence to justify doubting the license. --Xover (talk) 19:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Kept: per Xover. --IronGargoyle (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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This file was initially tagged by Εὐθυμένης as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: http://www.nerit.gr/eidiseis/ellada/vroutsis-prionizoun-kladi-pou-kathonte-ergodotes-pou-proothoun-tin-adiloti-ergasia/ Broken source. Yann (talk) 20:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Info The page existed in 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140808145813/http://www.nerit.gr/eidiseis/ellada/vroutsis-prionizoun-kladi-pou-kathonte-ergodotes-pou-proothoun-tin-adiloti-ergasia/ , was under CC-BY-SA 3.0/4.0 licenses, however, I cannot find this photo in the archive. Ankry (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep cf. the related DR. Digging around the Internet Archive of this source, I find a description that says "The New Hellenic Radio Internet Television (NERIT), under its founding charter 4173/26.07.2013, is the official public broadcaster of the country." So something like the Greek version of BBC Radio. On the same page I also find in the footer a "CC BY-SA" logo (linking to the Greek translation of CC BY-SA 3.0). Under those circumstances I would say that the given source being a deadlink is insufficient reason to delete. It is plausible that the photo was released at the time as CC BY-SA 3.0, so even if the precise URL given as source has not been archived it takes some actually contrary evidence to justify doubting the license. --Xover (talk) 19:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Kept: per Xover. --IronGargoyle (talk) 15:14, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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This file was initially tagged by Johnj1995 as Logo. COM:TOO? King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Meets {{PD-textlogo}} IMO. --Xover (talk) 19:30, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Kept: Simple circles and text, below COM:TOO Netherlands. --IronGargoyle (talk) 15:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Kes47 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Mural paintings are non-free source in Honduras legislation. Converting to DR per COM:CSD#F3. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:20, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- As author of the photo, I was not aware I was incurring in copyright infringement. But I'm currently in contact with the authors of the mural, and they will send an email to the Volunteer Response Team releasing the rights very soon. Please don't delete the file in the meantime. Tinaral (talk) 14:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Tinaral: Any news? Xover (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 05:43, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
"I received this photo after contacting the actress about adding an image to her Wikipedia article and she sent me a few images which she had approved and also signed a Public Domain release license for the images on the Commons site." is given as source. But sorry, this can not work. Until smoe days Miller was also names as photographer. But no, she is not. She did not the images and sorry, she also will not own the rights. Giving some images of myself I like is not the same as to have the right to do so. In the 1960 nobody cared about such rights, so it is so unlikely, that Miller had today the rights. Phtographer is definetly not dead since 70 years, so we also can not use this as a way. Until there's a proof of the freedom of the image, we must seen it as unfree. Marcus Cyron (talk) 23:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per COM:PRP. But note there are actually multiple ways this could really be acceptable. For one it is not at all unlikely that the contract with the photographer specified a transfer of title to the actress. That depends on whether she commissioned this headshot herself, or whether it was arranged by her management, or possibly a studio. We can't know, so PRP applies, but it is absolutely possible. Second, the photo may well have been published (for copyright purposes) without a copyright notice before the cutoff when notice was no longer needed. This kind of photo was often distributed for publicity or conceivably also sold (signed, typically), and experience shows that a lot of them did not bother about copyright formalities. --Xover (talk) 19:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 06:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Undeleted: PD-US-no notice, see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Daktaritvshow-wordpress-com-cheryl-miller-scrapbook-33.webp. Yann (talk) 10:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Taustaks olev pilt Rüütlist võib olla kaitstud autoriõigusega. Kes on selle autor ja kas ta lubab oma pilti vikipeedias kasutada? Taivo (talk) 17:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Rüütel ise on esiplaanil ja selgelt foto põhiobjekt. Taustal olev pilt on väike ning jääb osaliselt varju. Ei ole mitte mingit põhjust selle tagumise pildi pärast pead murda. Siinse foto kustutamine oleks põhjendamatu. Kruusamägi (talk) 15:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Kruusamägi@Taivo huvitav juhtum. Tausta pilt on ikka päris suur. Commons:CropTooli kasutamine lahendaks võimalikud probleemid Estopedist1 (talk) 08:41, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Pildi kärpimine rikuks kompa. Antud fotot võib vaadata ikkagi fotograafi loominguna ja Commonsis levinud kärpimismaania on fotograafide vaatest üks paras loomingu rõvetamine.
- Kasvõi puhtalt seda jälgides, et kus on pildil fookus, on hästi näha, et mida pildistati. See foto seal on vastuvaidlematult taustal. Kruusamägi (talk) 09:45, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Taivo: Kärpides tuleks säilitada külgede suhe. Mitte ainult ei riku see nüüd kompat, vaid on igat pidi puudulik. Kruusamägi (talk) 20:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Panin muidu teistsuguse kärpeversiooni üles. See päris külgede suhet ei säilita, aga sellelt paistab läbi ikkagi algne idee, mida fotograaf edasi andis. Püüda kramplikult taustalt paistvat täies mahus kustutada ei ole juriidilises vaates vajalik ja fotograafilises vaates mõistlik. Kruusamägi (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. --Krd 06:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)