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deleted previously per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Osama Bin Laden.jpg TheCuriousGnome (talk) 05:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Reupload of deleted file. FunkMonk (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Bildschirmfoto-2.png Headbreak (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Exact or scaled-down duplicate: File:Anleitung zur Menschenzucht.png -- Common Good (talk) 18:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Unlikely an FBI employee took the photo. FunkMonk (talk) 10:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- As noted in the deletion request for the parent file explicitly states that it contains copywritten material. This image is simply a derivative of a popular AP photo where the back ground has been altered. This image should be a speedy delete. 70.112.191.207 10:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- If the FBI report is published without any legal objections to U.S. policy under copyright picture is published under a free license. therefore, must necessarily remain in our resources Grzegorz Artur Górski (talk) 10:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete Almost certainly taken from a bin Laden video--not taken by a US government employee. It doesn't matter whether there were any objections. --GrapedApe (talk) 10:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - Some people are under the impression that PD-USGov covers all images found on US government sites but this is wrong because the sites sometimes obtain images from 3rd parties for their own usage only as is the case with this file. We need to know who the actual author or owner is and verify if they have given permission.--Officer (talk) 11:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete According to Getty Images, the original photo is copyrighted by the AFP (Agence France-Presse). For example, see http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/2613498/AFP. The AFP website claims "©AFP/File", see http://www.afp.com/afpcom/en/taglibrary/activity/web/multimedia/afp-online-news. Having said that, they were taken by Bin Laden's associates while filming a video on an unknown date, in an unknown location supposedly within Afghanistan. See http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/51426077/AFP for example. Earthsound (talk) 15:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Copyvio User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
The uploader is plainly not the copyright holder, so at best this needs a new license. It's probably PD, but we need to know that it was actually published before 1923 -- if it has just been in a family album until recently, then it's still (c). Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept Uploader changed tag to PD, I clarified its publication before 1923. Clear keep now. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 22:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
we doubt whether this is a really own work of Thegianfru. Where did you meet Mr Bin Laden? 92.227.128.101 17:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think the same way. Who did he know him? How did Osama leave him take a photo? o.0 --Minerva97 (talk) 17:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: 1367 Results on TinEye! ■ MMXX talk 17:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
90.52.255.146 18:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: no reason specified Jcb (talk) 20:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
just another porn pic. ← Körnerbrötchen » ✉ 08:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Not porn, but we have many better alternatives. --Yikrazuul (talk) 17:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: as uploader additionally claimed "account has been hacked. user poiureqanz has never uploaded this photo. nor is he its author." Túrelio (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
non free Theda (talk) 18:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Blatant copyright violation. High Contrast (talk) 16:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Low quality image of some penis photo shoot. Unencyclopedid due to the low image quality 80.187.106.173 18:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: (not by me) Jcb (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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An unencyclopedic image with poor quality. So many better alternatives exist. --Akira Kouchiyama 20:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete per above. ← Körnerbrötchen » ✉ 20:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: (not by me) Jcb (talk) 15:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Unused file that doesn't serve any education purpose. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 21:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep I don't understand the point of the nomination. Rama (talk) 23:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll withdraw the two nominations based on the discussion at Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Rioting_after_Nicolas_Sarkozy's_election,_Place_de_la_Bastille,_Paris_-_20070508-04.jpg. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 18:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept, Withdrawn by nominator. User:Keraunoscopia.
Unused file that does not serve any educational purpose – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 21:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep I don't understand the point of the nomination. Rama (talk) 23:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't understand the point of the image. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 01:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- That much is clear, but why do you request a deletion? Rama (talk) 04:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Because it, and its half-dozen companion images (I only tagged two for deletion to test the waters), aren't being used in articles and don't seem to serve any other purpose other than the fact that they're licensed as CC-BY. They were tagged {{Remove border}} and I was cleaning the backlog up when I realized I'm doing work on images that aren't even used. So I could either let someone else work on them, or tag them to be removed. I understand it's nice to have a "library", but these images look pretty pointless, no matter what. Just my opinion, though. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 06:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- These images combine some serious artistic value with historic significance. That is more, much more, than many images that we store on Commons for the legitimate reason that Commons is a repository of Free images. Commons is not only a "service project for Wikipedia". That an image would not be used in an article is not really relevant to its acceptability here. In this perspective, I find your Deletion Request really odd. Rama (talk) 07:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, my mistake, I misunderstood the purpose of nominating for deletion on a historically significant image. I'll withdraw the nomination rather than let it take up everyone's time. I've withdrawn the other image as well. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 18:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- These images combine some serious artistic value with historic significance. That is more, much more, than many images that we store on Commons for the legitimate reason that Commons is a repository of Free images. Commons is not only a "service project for Wikipedia". That an image would not be used in an article is not really relevant to its acceptability here. In this perspective, I find your Deletion Request really odd. Rama (talk) 07:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Because it, and its half-dozen companion images (I only tagged two for deletion to test the waters), aren't being used in articles and don't seem to serve any other purpose other than the fact that they're licensed as CC-BY. They were tagged {{Remove border}} and I was cleaning the backlog up when I realized I'm doing work on images that aren't even used. So I could either let someone else work on them, or tag them to be removed. I understand it's nice to have a "library", but these images look pretty pointless, no matter what. Just my opinion, though. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 06:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept, Withdrawn by nominator. User:Keraunoscopia.
Por un error de licencia, causado por mi Dourron (talk) 22:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Common Good (talk) 17:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Out of project scope. Useless and possible attack. Theda (talk) 02:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: attack page Gnangarra 00:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Unambiguous copyright violation of [1] Qwyrxian (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, I just tagged the wrong image; the link I put is for a different image just uploaded to en.wiki. I still believe this to be a copyright (it appears to be a screen capture of a television show), but it's not unambiguous. I am unclear of what procedure to follow at this point (do we just AGF this highly dubious "own work")? Qwyrxian (talk) 06:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Its stolen from http://thespicyscandals.blogspot.com/2011/02/filmfare-awards-2011-shahrukh-khan-best.html. Martin H. (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Unambiguous copyright infringement of [2] Qwyrxian (talk) 06:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Martin H. (talk) 17:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Non free, copy-vio from http://www.terra.cl/deportes/index.cfm?accion=futbolnacional&id_cat=67&id_reg=1551664 Theda (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Blatant copyright violation. Martin H. (talk) 22:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Unused crayon drawing of a fictional city. ←fetchcomms 00:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Not realistically useful for education. theMONO 00:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Far out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Unused crayon drawing of fictional location. ←fetchcomms 00:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Not realistically useful for education. theMONO 00:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Far out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Promotional image of some sort. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder. FASTILY (TALK) 06:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am not sure about the promotional content, but I found it here, so indeed a copyvio. Lymantria (talk) 11:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: copyvio Lymantria (talk) 11:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Studio style photo of a notable individual. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder. FASTILY (TALK) 06:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed copyvio, see for instance http://www.startracks.se/artists.asp?ID=30 Lymantria (talk) 11:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Copyvio Lymantria (talk) 11:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
private photo - out of scope Slfi (talk) 10:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. Not realistically useful for an educational purpose. –BMRR (talk) 19:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Far out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
probably one of set of playing cards - too small, maybe not own work, out of scope Slfi (talk) 10:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Not realistically useful for education. theMONO 00:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Per nom. George Chernilevsky talk 06:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Unnamed and therefore not notable group, out of scope. Also, very small size, no EXIF, therefore probably not "own work" as claimed. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 12:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Per nom. George Chernilevsky talk 06:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Copyvio, plus part of a promotional campaign. Article has been removed from nl: already. Erik1980 (talk) 15:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Per nom. George Chernilevsky talk 06:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
out of scope Slfi (talk) 16:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
self promoting image Slfi (talk) 16:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:17, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
svg-bug, superceded, and unused. Yikrazuul (talk) 17:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per bug^Wnom. DMacks (talk) 17:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Per nom. George Chernilevsky talk 06:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Out of project scope, used for vandalism on enwiki. Acroterion (talk) 19:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Not realistically useful for an educational purpose. –BMRR (talk) 19:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Out of project scope George Chernilevsky talk 06:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Enormous tiff image doesn't display on most browsers; replaced by slightly compressed jpeg File:HMS Australia LOC 4a14863v.jpg that does display Rcbutcher (talk) 04:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep If anyone does ever want to do additional processing, they'll want to use the lossless tiff. Buddy431 (talk) 19:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep Obvious Keep. Obviously as the source image for the JPG it would be kept. Absolutely no reason to delete just because the wiki thumb-nailing software can't render it --Tony Wills (talk) 02:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Copyright status of work by the U.S. government states that works produced by contractors under government contracts... are protected and restricted under U.S. copyright law The official website asserts that the current logo is copyrighted by the Center for Outdoor Ethics. Given the somewhat dubious origin of the image, shouldn't this image be protected by copyright for the same reason? Banaticus (talk) 04:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep If not PD-USGov, then PD-textlogo. The circle, dot, and words are obvious, and the spirals, while more complicated, still qualify as "simple geometric shapes." -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think "candycanes" (hooked staffs) are "simple geometric shapes". Banaticus (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- The most notable example of how inclusive PD-ineligible is would be File:Best Western logo.svg, which the U.S. Copyright Office has repeatedly rejected. I don't think the candycanes are much more complex than the crown. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think "candycanes" (hooked staffs) are "simple geometric shapes". Banaticus (talk) 23:55, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Press photo of some sort. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder. FASTILY (TALK) 06:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Promotional photo of a notable individual. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder. FASTILY (TALK) 06:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Promotional image of some sort. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder. FASTILY (TALK) 06:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Promotional photo of a notable individual. Likely copyrighted. No reason given to suggest that uploader is copyright holder FASTILY (TALK) 06:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete The uploader claimed the source was "Photographer of Sri Chinoy Centre" so I asked for evidence of permission on March 17 but received no response. Hekerui (talk) 08:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
nice photo, but no author, no source, no permission and self promoting ad Slfi (talk) 10:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Old file description here does give PD as permission, but Juan Iraeta as author, wich is a bit unlikely for this kind of portrait. Lymantria (talk) 06:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
no evidence of original work, looks scanned in from a magazine Hold and wave (talk) 09:58, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- I took it myself with a minolta camera at the American Jewish Congress' annual conference in 2006. The picture is a cropped version of the original which had the heads of people in attendance. This is not a phony picture and it is all my own work. --Juda S. Engelmayer (talk) 11:39, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. No evidence for being a copyvio. Surely the image shows compression artifacts, that are typical for strong jpg compression, but not for a scan from print. The unambiguous statement "This picture was taken by Juda Engelmayer and posted for use on WikiCommons" posted by the uploader only hours after this DR was filed, makes it additionally unlikely that this is a copyvio. --Túrelio (talk) 15:54, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. Now it was uploaded a new version with camera metadata. Not a copyvio as the reporter said. —Fitoschido // Leave me a shout! 07:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: Case is clarified, the picture is an original work. Dereckson (talk) 10:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Logo of a school, image has no license but an insignia tag. No permission from the school to host the logo here. User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Non-free logo. Dereckson (talk) 10:51, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Out of scope; non notable artist. –Tryphon☂ 17:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Delete by Fastily with the note No license since 2 May 2011. Dereckson (talk) 10:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
False Information Eggsadilla (talk) 22:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Deleted by Fastily with the note Author or uploader request deletion of unused page or file1. Dereckson (talk) 10:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks like a screenshot from a TV show Tabercil (talk) 23:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Derivative work of a non-free TV program (cf. COM:DW) Dereckson (talk) 10:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Looks like a screenshot from a TV show Tabercil (talk) 00:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Derivative work of a non-free TV program (cf. COM:DW) Dereckson (talk) 10:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
SVG contains only a missing linked raster image. Image not in use and is uncategorized. Magasjukur2 (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I was in process and in mean time some other user uploaded the same version (File:JAMES VAN DER BEEK sansierra studio cropped.jpg) Bill william comptonTalk 12:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Also, I wanna know don't we have "One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page using" like criteria for speedy deletion? because I don't wanna to add this one on my deleted record. Bill william comptonTalk 12:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: To your question -- yes, we can show that as the reason if you ask -- it takes several steps, while a routine DR close takes only one, so we do it only if asked. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Subject wants to use an updated photo. Valfex (talk) 14:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep Not a valid rationale. Please upload another photo and make sure you have permission. theMONO 00:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
The only purpose of this file was a German wikibook "Einstieg in die Ameisenhaltung" that is deleted by now. -- Juetho (talk) 14:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
entry is being used as spam DS (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Not realistically useful for education, spam. theMONO 00:58, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: 10:49, 8 May 2011 by Fastily, closed by Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
and other uploads by Casamika (talk · contribs). Attributed to different authors. No evidence of permissions. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Does not appear to be the work of the uploader. Other images uploaded by user tagged with {{No permission since}}. Skeezix1000 (talk) 00:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Likely copyvio. Almost certainly not created by uploader, with a long copyvio history. Image is from http://www.mysabah.com/wordpress/?p=554. ELEKHHT 15:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
No assertion that the image was published in the 1950's (this person died in 1980, so can be any time), User:Zscout370 (Return fire) 15:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
self promoting image (look at the it.wiki), out of scope Slfi (talk) 16:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
spam Slfi (talk) 16:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Quelle stimmt nicht, außerdem kann das FBI nicht Urheber des Fotos sein. Die Veränderungen (Alterung) allein haben keine Schöpfungshöhe Ralf Roletschek (talk) 16:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Urheber dieses und eines vergleichbaren Bildes scheint sehr wohl das FBI zu sein: Die Aufnahmen wurden am 14. Januar 2010 von dieser US-amerikanischen Bundesbehörde veröffentlicht. Auch haben die Veränderungen (Alterung) durchaus eine gehörige Schöpfungshöhe. Das Bild zeigt nämlich gar nicht Bin Laden selbst. Vielmehr ist es eine Collage aus Gesichtern anderer Personen, etwa dem des spanischen Politikers Gaspar Llamazares. Das Bild sollte daher keinesfalls gelöscht werden, wohl aber sollten in der Abbildungsbeschreibung diese Informationen hinzugefügt werden. (Quelle: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/0,1518,672390,00.html) User: Alexis Dworsky, 2 May 2011
- Keep Es ist ein Fahndungsfoto und solche Fotos sind zur Veröffentlichung gedacht. Nichts anderes wird hier getan. Also behalten. --Usien (talk) 19:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Dear Colleagues, I guess we should carry our conversation here in Commons only in English. --Ds02006 (talk) 02:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sure somebody will translate it. Post this page on the village pump, or the German forum, or find somebody to translate it WhisperToMe (talk) 03:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
I`m en-0, its no enouth to discuss here in english. Die Aussagen von Alexis kannte ich noch nicht, das würde das alles natürlich ändern. Fahndungsfotos beinhalten übrigens keine Aussage zum Urheberrecht, mit ihnen wird nur das Recht am eigenen Bild ausgehebelt. Urheberrecht bleibt jedoch bestehen, auch in Ländern wie Afghanistan oder Pakistan. --Ralf Roletschek (talk) 05:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- We can have someone (or more people) translate back and forth. We have quite a few Germans who know very good English. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:27, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep Even without translating the link above, the article still gives credit to the FBI as making the aged photo. So unless i am missing something, what exactly is the problem? DragonFire1024 (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete The image alteration may have been made by FBI personnel but with images of unknown source thus we have to assume it contains non-free content and it has to be deleted. --Denniss (talk) 03:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep "be no righteous overmuch" (Ecclesiastes 7,16) (or maybe that quote also should be deleted for suspected copyright violation). Oyoyoy (talk) 16:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per nom (the original author(s) of the source image(s) used by the FBI are unknown). Besides, the story of this and related images has even made it into the news, and the FBI has subsequently chosen to remove them from its website (see en:Gaspar Llamazares). --Prüm (talk) 18:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Concerns with attribution. -FASTILY (TALK) 11:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, not convincing license. --Yikrazuul (talk) 12:35, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Comment @Ds02006 -- While English is our lingua franca, Commons policy assumes that we will work in whatever languages are available and convenient. The Google translations (which I have provided above) are mostly good enough to get the gist of any argument, although not good enough for subtleties of copyright law. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: It is well known that the FBI often uses photos without regard for copyright -- after all, if a person is wanted by the FBI, it is likely that the FBI did not take the photo. This is certainly a derivative work of an image for which we have no copyright information. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
scan from some book or magazine but marked like own work Slfi (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
IMHO, the artistic input is beyond the threshold of originality. (Please check the file history and talk page.) ~ →Spiritia 17:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: 50/50 on originality question, but also out of scope. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Non free Theda (talk) 17:58, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
While this image would be public domain in Canada if it were created in Canada, we don't actually know where it was taken. Given that the subject is wearing the jersey of the Detroit Red Wings, there is a very good possibility that it was taken in the U.S., in which case we would need to know a lot more about the photographer and the circumstances of its publication. I couldn't find the image on the Hockey Hall of Fame website (legendsofhockey.net), not even a reference number that would allow us to email the HHOF to see if they have additional information. Given that there is a good chance that this image is not Canadian and is copyright in the U.S., policy would dictate that it be deleted, unless someone (hopefully) can fill in some of the blanks. Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've left a note on the talk page of the en.wiki article that uses this image advising them of this discussion. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- This was in the Quackenbush gallery section on the legendsofhockey.net, but unfortunately it looks as if has been removed.--Leech44 (talk) 04:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- After a few more image searches it looks like it was removed from the Quackenbush gallery because it's actually an image of Red Kelley as it appears on an article about him.--Leech44 (talk) 04:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good find. The HHOF site has no further details about the photo, except that perhaps its from the 1947-48 season. So the concerns I raised above still stand. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- After looking through the Red Kelly gallery on legends of hockey It does appear to be Quackenbush, there are a couple of images that do not load in Quackenbush's gallery it's possible that this image is one of those. However, with out knowing and not having a reference number I don't think that any more information can be found on this image and it's looking like it will need to be deleted.--Leech44 (talk) 01:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good find. The HHOF site has no further details about the photo, except that perhaps its from the 1947-48 season. So the concerns I raised above still stand. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- After a few more image searches it looks like it was removed from the Quackenbush gallery because it's actually an image of Red Kelley as it appears on an article about him.--Leech44 (talk) 04:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- This was in the Quackenbush gallery section on the legendsofhockey.net, but unfortunately it looks as if has been removed.--Leech44 (talk) 04:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've left a note on the talk page of the en.wiki article that uses this image advising them of this discussion. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 19:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
COM:DW. Copyrighted work ("All M.C. Escher works © the M.C. Escher Company B.V.- Baarn – the Netherlands." [3] and death only 39 years ago) by another author shown without any permission to see: "Day and Night" (woodcut from year 1938) by Maurits Cornelis Escher (17 June 1898 – 27 March 1972) which seems not to be "permanently located in public places" (I guess it is canvas mounted with wire) as required by FOP in the Netherlands.
There is also this photo which shows some photograph of a women (couldnt find the image with tineye): File:Escher_museum.jpg - but at least we can see that the "Day and night" is not permanent.
I can retouch the image to blank the canvas if there is agreement that the original version is not allowed. Saibo (Δ) 19:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- At Category:Paleis Lange Voorhout, it looks like it's impossible to take images of the palace without some sort of advertising creeping in. -- Docu at 19:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Could be - but this is not Escher's (heirs) problem. This is ours. In addition the advertising is avoidable: as proposed I can simply retouch the canvas to blank it out. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a photo of the building, not a reproduction of someone else's problem. It's not really avoidable, because a blank surface creates a hole in the image. Personally, I think it's negligible. Obviously one mustn't crop it. -- Docu at 01:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is a photo of an art museum. And this photo really is much nicer with a sample of the artwork which is inside. Therefore I really do not see this as de minimis. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think a de minimis sample at Commons is a cinema with an Indiana Jones poster. BTW, the woman you mention above is the queen. -- Docu at 08:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I could not find the cinema example you name at COM:DM. However, I have found a poster: File:Pathe_Spui_The_Hague_(Sideview).jpg.
- If it is "the queen" then it is not very old and probably needs to go, too. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think a de minimis sample at Commons is a cinema with an Indiana Jones poster. BTW, the woman you mention above is the queen. -- Docu at 08:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is a photo of an art museum. And this photo really is much nicer with a sample of the artwork which is inside. Therefore I really do not see this as de minimis. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a photo of the building, not a reproduction of someone else's problem. It's not really avoidable, because a blank surface creates a hole in the image. Personally, I think it's negligible. Obviously one mustn't crop it. -- Docu at 01:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Could be - but this is not Escher's (heirs) problem. This is ours. In addition the advertising is avoidable: as proposed I can simply retouch the canvas to blank it out. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Digital manipulations must not deceive the viewer, and manipulations which cause the main subject to be misrepresented are never acceptable. If this image were used in any project, say a Wikipedia or Wikinews article, the superimposition of the contributor's own artwork would deceive the viewer into thinking this was the image displayed on the building at the time the photograph was taken. JN466 22:44, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Comment Background: The original photograph, with the same filename, was deleted because a copyrighted work was displayed on the building and shown in the photograph. As mentioned above, a version with the banner blanked was created (File:Paleis_lange_voorhout-banner_blanked.jpg) to retain an image of the building itself in Commons. This seems like an acceptable, least-worst solution. The version now proposed for deletion, with the Wikimedian's original Commons art (File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg) placed into the white space, is inappropriate. --JN466 22:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Comment I've just noticed that we also have a photograph of the building without any advertising banner at all: File:Escher_Museum.jpg. This being so, I don't think the version with the blanked banner is needed either. --JN466 23:00, 17 May 2011 (UTC)- Keep Speculation of uses that would be deceptive is irrelevant, the image page clearly describes the changes, and the reasons for those changes. The linked page about image guidelines was created specifically for "featured pictures" and "quality images", and even there these are not prescriptions, they are guidelines, and definitely not policy anywhere. Whether there are other images of the same subject is also irrelevant, we normally have lots of images of the same subject, often more than one being used in the same article, often different wikis use different views of the same subject. At any instant most images on Commons are not in use on any wiki. (Perhaps I should suggest that images of the building with no advertising banner attached are deceptive as there is a banner there these days ;-) --Tony Wills (talk) 02:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- The image is deceptive, and I can see no other reason for a contributor placing their own image as though it had been displayed on a public building than self-promotion. An editor might as well Photoshop their face on to a man in a red carpet shot, next to that of a famous actress. It does not aid the Foundation's educational mission in any way. --JN466 11:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete The weirdest image I've seen, really, and a deceptive one, too. If one doesn't want to show copyrighted work on a building, one simply blurs or airbrushes it. I have to agree with the poster above - here is a blatant self-promotion. Ari Linn (talk) 12:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete If there is a useable image, there is no reason to use a deceptive image. Even clearly labeling the substitution on the photo itself would not be workable because who would want to use such a photo in an article, etc? And it would be a precedent for all sorts of foolishness, like me putting my face on the Statute of Liberty and clearly labeling it as such and uploading it. (Unless of course it became a famous art photo or something. ;-) Carolmooredc (talk) 13:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment If I see a photo of a building with an advertising banner on it, what am I expecting it to contain? If I go there and find it has a different illustration than I thought do I think I was deceived? Photographs are not reality, photographs are subjective, photographs show the subject as the photographer chooses (just like artists do with paintings) - photos are edited or staged. Photographs can be used to deceive eg "New stadium being built in New York", but if their description clearly states what they are of, they are not deceptive in themselves.
- The deletion/undeletion history of the image clearly shows why the banner image was replaced. It is the most natural thing to use one of ones own images (where you can be sure of the long term copyright status and ensure it is compatible with the image you are merging it with) when making such a change. If an image is an FP and subsequently POTD, this additional use is hardly extra promotion. I stated on the user's talk page that I don't think it was the best image for this purpose as limits its use. But as an illustration of the Palace (which currently happens to house the Escher museum) it is a quite useable image. The editted photograph illustrates how the building looks with an advertising banner taking up aprox 1/10th of the photograph. I makes a visually attractive image at normal viewing distances and sizes used on wiki pages, certainly better than the visual dissonance created by a straight blanking of the original artwork.
- We normally keep many different images of the same subject, differently sourced, differently licensed, differently editted. This aids our educational purposes by allowing wikis to choose between a number of alternative images of the subject for illustration purposes, we don't decide which is the best for any particular purpose, that is up to the participating wikis. --Tony Wills (talk) 13:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Never even heard of such practice before. Blanking, blurring or airbrushing are common things to do, not replacing. In File:The altar of the Japanese Buddhism-style funeral,saidan,japan.jpg the face and the name tablet of the deceased person are blurred, not replaced with some imaginary face and name. Ari Linn (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)It is the most natural thing to use one of ones own images
- There are apples and pears... -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 14:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is a very silly point. A solid colour rectangle over the offending portion of the image is the surest way to ensure the long-term copyright availability of the image. Lankiveil (talk) 08:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- There are apples and pears... -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 14:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete I'm sure the Escher museum would love to see this! What exactly is the educational purpose of this and how does it fit into Commons educational mission? It's a joke that people actually think this serves an educational purpose by displaying itself on the Escher museum to show how banners are displayed on the facilities exterior. Missvain (talk) 15:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete Agree with other arguments above to delete. If you want to remove the advertising banner on a museum's facade, make it blank; don't advertise your own work as a form of affiliation with a cultural institution. Jgmikulay (talk) 15:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete Per nominator's reasoning. Deceptive and ridiculous alteration that serves no functional purpose. Steven Walling 18:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep Niabot edited the image and replaced the original, copyrighted artwork with a new one - this way the poster is not looking "blurred" or just showing a big white area which can be seen here: File:Paleis lange voorhout-banner blanked.jpg. Commons does not exist to editorialise on other projects - so let's provide a selection of image for other projects. --Saibo (Δ) 19:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this supposed to be a joke? --JN466 19:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- As a museum professional, I'd much rather have the blank banner than having a Commons users artwork, let alone something totally unrelated to the mission of the Escher museum. Sometimes imaginations are meant to be used, and I find it hard to believe that the creator of this second image, the creator of the artwork itself, was doing it as a charity to Wikimedia Commons. Missvain (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- @JN: No.
- @Missvain: Has the museum personality rights on their building? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Given that they don't, do you think it is ethical for us to misrepresent them, and to deceive our readers/viewers? --JN466 23:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Why would a museum have personality rights? That's irrelevant.. Missvain (talk) 02:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I do see anything "unethical" here. Also our readers/viewers are not deceived. It is clearly labeled as an edited (with specific details what has been edited) photo. If this would be used - for example - in an Wikipedia (but remember: Commons is not an Wikipedia image store) article, of course, the image subtitle should reflect that, too. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- There is no bona-fide point serving other projects or commercial re-users. We have an image of the building, without banner, as well as one with the banner blanked. --JN466 00:29, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Wow, it's just bizarre that you think it's "ethical". This is just one of the many concerns that institutions dread when it comes to open-source and Wikimedia - images of their objects, buildings, etc, being utilized for things like this. Missvain (talk) 01:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I do see anything "unethical" here. Also our readers/viewers are not deceived. It is clearly labeled as an edited (with specific details what has been edited) photo. If this would be used - for example - in an Wikipedia (but remember: Commons is not an Wikipedia image store) article, of course, the image subtitle should reflect that, too. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep can't find a acceptable reason for deleting --Wladyslaw (talk) 06:42, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly out of scope (not realistically useful for an educational purpose), apparently created to make a point.--Eloquence (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is e.g. this picture File:A potential new editor being displeased by markup complexity.png realistic and has a useful or educational purpose? Don't think so and Commons is full of such "fun pictures". Please be consistent and make also deletion requests for them. --Wladyslaw (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Given that that image was created as a part of a discussion on the strategy wiki, I think the answer to the question is "Yes, it does have a useful purpose". Lankiveil (talk) 08:33, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- It wasn't. It was created way before the POTD discussion even started. Compare the dates. -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 08:37, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Uhh, the image was created on 16 May, and was used here also on 16 May (sorry, not sure how to directly link to a talk thread)? Lankiveil (talk) 09:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- Given your comment below, i couldn't assume that you talked about the other image. -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 09:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, and if possible, sanction the uploader. Quite clearly a disruptive attempt to make a point. Lankiveil (talk) 08:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- See comment above. -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 08:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep - You will need to delete about of the half images uploaded here if you delete this one. -- Pro2 (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- This rationale makes no sense, unless half of the images on Commons are pictures of museums with hentai images plastered across them. Lankiveil (talk) 12:20, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- You don't even have a clue what hentai is. LOL. -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 12:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- This rationale makes no sense, unless half of the images on Commons are pictures of museums with hentai images plastered across them. Lankiveil (talk) 12:20, 19 May 2011 (UTC).
- Not everyone does, and that doesn't mean that anyone is any lower on the food chain here or any less cultured, not everyone in the Wiki world is into anime/manga/lord forbid.."cartoons". Missvain (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is definitely better to choose your words right and not to use something as an argument that you don't even know. I won't cite Dieter Nuhr in this case, but it could be an good start to begin with. -- /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ 苦情処理係 14:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not everyone does, and that doesn't mean that anyone is any lower on the food chain here or any less cultured, not everyone in the Wiki world is into anime/manga/lord forbid.."cartoons". Missvain (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to view that comment as a piece of performance art, rather than a contribution to the discussion. --JN466 13:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Is this intended to be a parody? If so, Keep in the same vein as File:Tower bridge London Twilight - November 2006 enhanced enc.jpg but restrict to project namespace. Otherwise Delete as misleading. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - Out of scope and potentially misleading. It's a good work indeed, when I looked at it for the first time, without seeing this discussion, I thought for a moment that for some reason the Niabot artwork (which I knew from a rather unfortunate attempt of censorship when it was POTD) was displayed in that building.-- Darwin Ahoy! 03:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. The original image is up for undeletion at Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg. -- Docu at 04:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - The guidelines are clear - images which cause the main subject to be misrepresented are never acceptable. Kaldari (talk) 13:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete. Out of scope. The Niabot picture is unrealted to the Escher museum, and so doesn't provide any educative information. A better solution were provided by the blanked version. A certain tolerance generally exists but in this case, Niobot weren't entitled to squat the old photo filename to force his custom artwork display. --Dereckson (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Obviously scan from magazine or catalog. Sadly only photo of this car on commons Slfi (talk) 19:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
wrong file Curtlsmith (talk) 20:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: THat is not a reason for deletion, but the image seems to be out of scope. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
COM:DW. Copyrighted work (death only 39 years ago) by another author shown without any permission to see: A
- "Map by Escher in the office of the Mayor" (translation via google from file desc)
- "wood panels inlaid (intarsia) of MC Escher" (translation via google) [4]
by Maurits Cornelis Escher (17 June 1898 – 27 March 1972). Saibo (Δ) 20:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Marked as an image from a calendar (google confirms and finds it all over the blog-world and fan-sites)...no evidence uploader owns the rights to release it DMacks (talk) 20:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Tiny (160×160 pixels) unused personal photo without metadata, the user's last remaining upload. Out of project scope. Taivo (talk) 09:28, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --INeverCry 00:07, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
because exist another file with the same description made by me. Seamless20 (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: insufficient reason for deletion Jcb (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
(edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)
Image actually appears to be licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 Unported, according to http://theholisticcare.com/yoga/gallery/category/18-dolphin_plank_pose.html User:C45207
Deleted: Non-commercial/NoDerivative licenses are noit free use licenses for the purpose of the Commons Avi (talk) 06:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
(c) copyright Bibliothèque royale de Belgique Gothance (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep, the map is from 1660 and thus public domain, whoever has the map in possesion now. Donarreiskoffer (talk) 19:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep see one above! -- Herby (Vienna) (talk) 20:37, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
La Bibliothèque royale de Belgique se réserve tous droits de reproduction et de diffusion de la version en haute résolution de ce document. Comme vous le savez, la Wikimedia Foundation commercialise le contenu image qu'elle héberge mais qu'elle ne produit pas. La Bibliothèque royale diffuse gratuitement en ligne à partir de son catalogue et de manière sécurisée ce type de document. Par ailleurs, elle le commercialise également et est seule en droit de le faire. La Bibliothèque royale de Belgique (l'Etat belge) est propriétaire de ce document qui date (version numérique) de 2006. Si vous souhaitez continuer à utiliser ce document, merci de publier une version en basse résolution et de faire un lien vers le catalogue de la Bibliothèque royale à l'adresse http://opteron1.kbr.be/cgi-bin/opac.cgi?P0=FKBR&P1=1_JAN&P9=&P5=20&P4=&P2=4&P3=R_BBH&P6=67_1547208 . Ce lien héberge la notice descriptive du document que vous avez publié. Le document en haute résolution n'est actuellement pas lié à cette notice. Il le sera bientôt. Pour plus d'information, veuillez contacter la Bibliothèque. Merci de votre compréhension. Benoît Pigeon, Service Cartes & Plans, Bibliothèque royale de Belgique Gothance (talk) 07:31, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- The following is a machine translation of the above text: Reason For the deletion request: The Royal Library reserves all rights of reproduction and distribution of high-resolution version of this document. As you know, the Wikimedia Foundation markets the image content it hosts, but it does not. The Royal Library's free online broadcast from its catalog and secure this type of document. Moreover, it also markets and is only entitled to do so. The Royal Library of Belgium (the Belgian government) owns the record that (digital version) 2006. If you want to continue using this document, thank you publish a version in low resolution and make a link to the catalog of the Royal Library at http://opteron1.kbr.be/cgi-bin/opac.cgi ? P0 = P1 = 1_JAN FKBR & P9 & = & P5 = P4 = 20 & & & P2 = 4 P3 = P6 = & R_BBH 67_1547208. This link is hosting the descriptive document that you published. High resolution document is currently not linked to this record. It will be soon. For more information, please contact the Library. Thank you for your understanding. Benoît Pigeon Service Plans & Maps, Royal Library of Belgium
- Keep In het Belgisch wetboek, staat bij de "Wet betreffende het auteursrecht en de naburige rechten." van 30 JUNI 1994, in hoofdstuk 1, afdeling 1, artikel 2, paragraaf 5 hetvolgende:
- De beschermingstermijn van foto's die oorspronkelijk zijn, in de zin dat zij een eigen intellectuele schepping van de auteur zijn, wordt (vastgesteld) overeenkomstig de voorgaande paragrafen.. [5]
- De Belgische federale overheid verduidelijkt dit op haar website [6]. Ik, citeer:
- Worden daarentegen niet beschermd door het auteursrecht: wat uitsluitend door een machine wordt voortgebracht (zoals bijvoorbeeld satellietbeelden).
- Ik denk dat het dan ook duidelijk is dat ook naar Belgisch recht het louter digitaal inscannen van een document uit het publiek domein geen nieuw auteursrecht impliceert.
- Uiteraard willen wij wel vrijwillig een koppeling naar de informatie op uw website leggen.
- Mvg Donarreiskoffer (talk) 17:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Info For English speakers: User:Gothance claims that the Royal Library of Belgium owns the copyright of the file above because they own and scanned the 17th century map. I claim that corresponding to Belgian law (and US law), making a digital scan of a Public domain document does not generate a new copyright. Donarreiskoffer (talk) 09:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep The imposed 'regulations' are invalid; a scan of a public domain map is public domain. Additionally, there is a prohibition against attaching a fraudulent copyright notice to any work, including public domain works...this seems borderline. theMONO 00:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: PD Lymantria (talk) 06:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Had a no-permission-tag without any explanation, so I removed it some time ago when working through that backlog. Now was made aware on my talkpage that the reason for the tag could have been that there is a discrepancy between the EXIF and the description (camera type) which leads to the doubt that this is really own work. -- Cecil (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jcb (talk) 10:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Had a no-permission-tag without any explanation, so I removed it some time ago when working through that backlog. Now was made aware on my talkpage that the reason for the tag could have been that there is a discrepancy between the EXIF and the description (camera type) which leads to the doubt that this is really own work. -- Cecil (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jcb (talk) 10:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia's possible unfree files, this image resembles a scaled-down version of the image found in here. --Kungfu2187 (talk) 09:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: Copyvio - taken from a website (http://world.guns.ru/assault/be/fn-f2000-e.html) with an explicit copyright notice that reserves all rights. Skeezix1000 (talk) 00:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The cover of the report indicates that it contains copywritten material. The cover image in particular should be assumed to be removed as it is a derivative of a prominent associated press photo. The document should most likey be fully deleted; Without this coversheet the segment of the document uploaded here is simply a table of contents to a report not found here and seems of marginal value - if users feel those other pages are of value then a new version of the report should be uploaded minus the infringing coversheet. Solid State Survivor (talk) 10:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is a 272 page report, of which only the table of contents is uploaded to Commons because the rest of the report may contain copyrighted material, and that is why I didnt upload the rest of it. Many items in this report are not copyright due to the lack of any applicable copyright law or treaty, but that is a separate matter. Even without the contents, this TOC is a useful index of information about Usama Bin Ladin, and it is being transcribed on Wikisource. I can also remove the photo. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you believe the table of contents has value in and of itself then I suppose deletion is not necasary. However, the cover photo is certainly a derivative of a copywritten one and a new version of the document minus that photo should be uploaded as soon as possible. Solid State Survivor (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- re the photo, I don't doubt you for a second, but I would be most grateful if you can provide any information (asset id, etc) or URLs to show it is an AP photo. I'll pull out the image in a few days; I want to wait to see if there are any other concerns about this document, such as it being a leaked document. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly, This site[7] credits the parent image explicitely to the AP. I have no reason to doubt that claim as I have seen that image printed innumerable times in many newspapers. Solid State Survivor (talk) 10:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- FBIS photoshopped the image!?!. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I cant claim to know if they did it themselves or if photohop was the tool used. But Im certain it is a derivative image since it overlaps precisely with the AP image in my photo editing software. I think it looks different from the AP image because the colors are so blown out on it (maybe from overcopying or printer quality) the white of his eyes and mouth are minimized amking it seem different. Also - that background certainly isnt natural. Solid State Survivor (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am also sure it is the same photo; I was feigning surprise that a govt body would do such a thing. I see now that you're requesting File:Osama bin Laden (CIA photo).png be deleted. I agree with that CSD, but will let another admin review and action your request. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Deleted by user:Zscout370. John Vandenberg (chat) 23:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am also sure it is the same photo; I was feigning surprise that a govt body would do such a thing. I see now that you're requesting File:Osama bin Laden (CIA photo).png be deleted. I agree with that CSD, but will let another admin review and action your request. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I cant claim to know if they did it themselves or if photohop was the tool used. But Im certain it is a derivative image since it overlaps precisely with the AP image in my photo editing software. I think it looks different from the AP image because the colors are so blown out on it (maybe from overcopying or printer quality) the white of his eyes and mouth are minimized amking it seem different. Also - that background certainly isnt natural. Solid State Survivor (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- FBIS photoshopped the image!?!. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly, This site[7] credits the parent image explicitely to the AP. I have no reason to doubt that claim as I have seen that image printed innumerable times in many newspapers. Solid State Survivor (talk) 10:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- re the photo, I don't doubt you for a second, but I would be most grateful if you can provide any information (asset id, etc) or URLs to show it is an AP photo. I'll pull out the image in a few days; I want to wait to see if there are any other concerns about this document, such as it being a leaked document. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you believe the table of contents has value in and of itself then I suppose deletion is not necasary. However, the cover photo is certainly a derivative of a copywritten one and a new version of the document minus that photo should be uploaded as soon as possible. Solid State Survivor (talk) 10:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep There's no proof that the image in question in deed is a derivative of a prominent associated press photo, the pamphlet does not contain a source notice on the image, therefor it must be believed that the image was taken by a government employe. In fact also the AP (and other agencies) are publishing not properly sourced government images in their image pool because of they're are in the PD. --Matthiasb (talk) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- You have heard about what US government employees did with Osama bin Laden when they found him, right? They didn't make him pose for photos. It's rather unlikely that it was taken by a US government employee – at least if it was taken after the 1980s. —LX (talk, contribs) 09:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- +1 Keep--Gary Dee (talk) 12:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment -- Don't wire services routinely add public domain images to their libraries? I come across images in wire services' libraries that I know, for a certain fact, should be {{PD-USGov}}. I think it is a serious mistake for us to assume that since an image is in a wire services' library the wire services is the owner of the intellectual property rights to that image. Geo Swan (talk) 08:24, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Keep As above, wire service' routinely add public domain images to their libraries. Nominator claims that this image is an AP image, because they saw it credited to the AP in one publication. So I ask them to explain why the image is credited to the library of the Reuters wire service. Here it is credited to the library of the GETTY wire service. Here it is credited to the libary of the AFP wire service. Here it is credited to the library of the SCANPIX wire service. I suggest the reason we find this image in the libraries of multiple wire services is that it is a public domain image, so any wire service is entitled to add it to their library. The tineye service found over 1000 uses of this image. I found the image credited to almost half a dozen different wire services within the first 20 instances of the image. Geo Swan (talk) 08:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- It could also be that the photo agencies have the business analysis that, even if the photo is copyrighted, the copyright is probably held by some member of al-Qaeda (a slightly more likely photographer than a US government employee, as speculated above), making it so unlikely that they would be successfully sued that the benefits outweigh the risks. That's not how we work, though. Simply put, public domain status cannot be inferred from a work being widely distributed. We don't have a {{PD-widely-circulated}}. {{PD-USGov}} seems highly unlikely. {{PD-Afghanistan}} is plausible, but the photo is just as likely to have been taken in Pakistan. —LX (talk, contribs) 09:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete It is the duty of those in favor of keeping the file to proof that is in pd (multiple agencies is just a hint), not the other way round. If you want to have a file on Commons, it is you who has to make sure that it applies to the rules. And I don't see a proof for pd of Osama's photo yet. Who exactly is the photographer and when did he release his photo into public domain?--Toter Alter Mann (talk) 10:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Respecting the need for a proper picture one has to agree to Toter Alter Mann. The (self given) rules are clear, commons should stick to them. --Ian DuryHit me 21:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete - Derivative work of a copyrighted work. Th U.S. government has the power to use terrorists' images on their websites, if required they can pay to have this done. But here in Commons we have a strict policy which requires permission from the original author/owner.--Officer (talk) 00:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Are you happy for the file to be kept if the photo on the cover is redacted? John Vandenberg (chat) 01:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't see any other issues with it. —LX (talk, contribs) 05:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: no reason to suppose the cover image to be free, feel free to upload a version without that image. If necessary I'm willing to temporary undelete the file, so that you can download it to edit it Jcb (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/Commons:Deletion requests/File:Djellaba.JPG
Based on Google translate from Swedish, all content from the source website http://cafe.se/sofi-fahrman/ is copyrighted. No evidence of CC-BY license. ELEKHHT 14:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- It appears to be one of several pictures from the Swedish Café Magazine (Category:Magazine Café) originating, not from the link you give above, but from a now-closed Flickr account. The image page actually says this; it links to the now-deleted Flickr page, not to the page you linked above. It also appears that these pictures were available under a CC-BY license at the time. In this case and some others, the license was confirmed by an administrator. A few of these Flickr image pages (without the images) are available at the Wayback machine, and seem to confirm the license ([8], [9]). The issue may perhaps be whether the Flickr account actually belonged to the magazine. If there is no doubt that it did, then it seems that they made these images available on Flickr under a CC-BY license, but later regretted this and closed the account, withdrawing their liberal image licensing in the process. --Hegvald (talk) 12:45, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed I wasn't questioning that the image was available on flickr at the time of the upload under a stated free license. However (1) the fact that the flickr account has been deleted is rather an indication of a possible flickrwashing. Furthermore, (2) as the official website of Café Magazine indicates a different license, it appears that they would have been inconsistent by releasing the image under one license in one place and another in another place, which I find unlikely. Third (3) the image description is dubious, indicating "8 December 2008", while the magazine published it "06 maj 2008", and the magazine as author instead of a photographer is dubious too. (4) The uploader has a record of copyvios in the same period, by which I only mean that is likely to have fallen victim to flickrwashing. To me this looks like a duck and smells like a duck, but I guess the best way to get 100% certainty would be if somebody speaking Swedish would ask the magazine to confirm that they owned a flickr account with the name "magazinecafe" in January 2009 when the upload occurred. --ELEKHHT 13:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have asked for input at the Swedish Wikipedia Village Pump (sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Bilder från magasinet Café). Hopefully someone knows more about this. --Hegvald (talk) 15:53, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep The Flickr account was owned by the magazine. This has been confirmed by e-mail on SVWP. Also, the CC-licenses are afaik irreversible. // Sertion 16:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- A CC-license is irreversible, but the CC is only valid if the licence was added by the copyright-owner. And we do not know if Café ever has owned the copyright of these pictures. (It's not obvious from the mail.) The CC-license was removed, maybe because it was a copyvio. -- Lavallen (talk) 16:54, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Keep because of the quoted email reply from the svwp discussion: "Vår Flickr-närvaro är ett steg i ledet att helt enkelt utforska och lära av nya kanaler. Vi vill inte agera “gammelmedialt” protektionistisk utan ser snarare ett värde i att vårt innehåll sprids för vinden. Vi är ett modernt magasin och vet att det kanske finns hundra siter där ute som är viktigare för oss och vårt innehåll än vår egen. Creative Commons-biten däremot är ett misstag. Eller i alla fall ett just nu, lite förhastat steg. Vi utforskar möjligheterna att delge delar av vårt material (som mycket som möjligt, om jag får bestämma) under creative commons-licens men vi är inte riktigt där än och alla bilder kommer under kvällen att “märkas om”. Vissa alltså tillfälligt." summarized as "the account is ours but the cc licence was a mistake". However, Delete if it can be shown that the licence was put there by someone who had no right to do so. /grillo (talk) 17:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Delete We don't know who the copyright-owners of these pictures are. / Elinnea (talk) 23:02, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: license is irrevocable Jcb (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Veraltetes Foto. User ist nicht der Fotograf, auch wenn die Kamera ihr gehört. Chiron-san (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, due to currently missing permission, but also per respect of personality rights. --Túrelio (talk) 15:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Avi (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
i am the photographer of this picture. the description page of the picture still contains my real name (in the descriptions of the older file-versions) and turns up in ggogle-searches. so please either remove the old versions of the file along with the mentioning of my real name, or delete the file altogether, so i can re-upload it without using my real name. F.412 (talk) 20:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
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i am the photographer of this picture. the description page of the picture still contains my real name (in the descriptions of the older file-versions) and turns up in ggogle-searches. so please either remove the old versions of the file along with the mentioning of my real name, or delete the file altogether, so i can re-upload it without using my real name. F.412 (talk) 15:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: the versions with the real name as requested Jcb (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
non-free license, no OTRS ticket listed. The license for the image is correct (Creative Commons BY-SA Dieses Foto ist unter einer Creative Commons-Lizenz (Namensnennung-Weitergabe unter gleichen Bedingungen 3.0 Deutschland) lizenziert.) but
Excemtions are not stated.Bei dem Inhalt unserer Internetseiten handelt es sich um urheberrechtlich geschützte Werke. Die CDU/CSU-Bundestagsfraktion gestattet die Übernahme von Texten in Datenbestände, die ausschließlich für den privaten Gebrauch eines Nutzers bestimmt sind. Die Übernahme und Nutzung der Daten zu anderen Zwecken bedarf unserer schriftlichen Zustimmung.
— [10]
Unklare Rechtslage --Mattes (talk) 17:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Pictures are not texts. As anyone can see at the website where the picture has been transferred from, the file has been set (apparantly by the copyright holder: the photographer) on a free license CC-BY-SA 3.0 while others of Bundestag members are not. There are some 110 pictures with a free license while almost the same number of picture are held with a non-free license. So this seems to be a true Much ado about nothing. --Miebner (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Deutsch: (missing text)"Inhalt unserer Internetseiten" dürfte jedwede Art von Inhalten meinen. --Mattes (talk) 18:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Laut deutschem Urheberrecht ist aber der Fotograf Urheber und nicht der Verwerter (in diesem Fall die CDU/CSU-Bundestagsfraktion). Die Fotografin hat das Bild offensichtlich unter CC-Lizenz freigegeben und das lässt sich in diesem Fall sogar in den EXIF-Daten nachlesen (ich unterstelle mal dass die Fotografin selbst die CC-Lizenz dort eingetragen hat). Letztlich liegt mit dem Setzen der CC-Lizenz im Einzelfall ja die explizite schriftliche Zustimmung vor. --Miebner (talk) 18:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept Avi (talk) 06:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
COM:DW. Copyrighted work (death only 39 years ago) by another author shown without any permission to see: according to fr:Maurits_Cornelis_Escher it is Roger Penrose at a conference who is showing something at an etching of Maurits Cornelis Escher (17 June 1898 – 27 March 1972) "Limite circulaire IV (Ciel et enfer)" (heaven and hell).
I can crop the image to Roger Penrose if needed and if there is agreement that the original version is not allowed. Saibo (Δ) 20:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm the uploader. I'm afraid that you are right. I agree to crop the image. Jacopo Werther (talk) 17:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. I will do a crop and a blurred version tomorrow. Then the original version can be hid/deleted. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have uploaded a blurred version (think this would be okay, but not sure) and a cropped version. Because I do not think the blurred version is of much use I have not uploaded under a new name. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good job! Thanks! Jacopo Werther (talk) 11:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Kept: the blurred version Jcb (talk) 13:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Files of User:Famkr01
[edit]Why this raster if this is own work? For me it looks like a newspaper-scan. If it is a newspaper-scan, we need permission from the photographer. If not, I am sorry for doubting own work.
RE rillke questions? 21:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete the first four, Keep the last three. The first four do indeed look like newspaper scans, but the last three look like actual developed photos. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: @KoH -- yes, but still probably not own work given their age. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Files of User:SomeDudeWithAUserName
[edit]No educational content. POV only. / No forseeable use.
- File:Defaced Flag of Israel for Anti-Zionist Messages.jpg
- File:Anti-Zionist Pro-Semitic Cartoon.jpg
- File:Flag of the Smurfian Communist Statelessness of Antarctica.jpeg
- File:Picture of Maoist Rebel.png
- File:American Flag after Obama wins 2012 election (alternate history).jpeg - Where does the Obama-foto come from?
- File:Corrected Libyan Rebel Flag.jpg
- File:Flag of the Constitutional Monarchy of France(alternate history).jpg
- File:Muslimjewishpeaceflag.jpg - Probably useful? Message of hope?
- File:Flag of the Communist Republic of Wisconsin.jpg
- File:Tannerpartylogo.png - In use -- George Chernilevsky talk 06:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
RE rillke questions? 21:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- On the one hand, Wikimedia Commons has traditionally had a somewhat tolerant policy towards "special or fictional" flags and emblems, and such files are not usually deleted solely on the grounds of being "special or fictional", unless some additional aggravating factor is also present. However, on the other hand, many of these images are of extremely poor quality, both from a technical standpoint (JPEG when a JPEG should not be used, etc.), and also with respect to poor symbolism, extremely doubtful usefulness (even within the "special or fictional" realm), etc. File:Muslimjewishpeaceflag.jpg is actually one of the poorest quality of all of them (as explained at User_talk:SomeDudeWithAUserName)... AnonMoos (talk) 08:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, especially the first two on the list and the Obama-related one, which may be a derivative anyway. --Túrelio (talk) 08:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete What a POV-crap. --Yikrazuul (talk) 21:17, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Don't seem to have any legitimate uses. Kaldari (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete. No eductional value. Out of Project scope. Geagea (talk) 02:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Poor quality POV with no encyclopedic or educational value. MathKnight 14:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Delete Please. Aviados (talk) 16:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Almost all deleted -- George Chernilevsky talk 06:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: (not by me) Jcb (talk) 22:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Files of Luxusfrosch 2
[edit]- File:Kit_socks_vertical_yellow.png
- File:Kit_socks_vertical_gold.png
- File:Kit_socks_vertical_red.png
- File:Kit_socks_vertical_right_red.png
- File:Kit_socks_WOLFSBURG_1011h.png
- File:Kit_body_grash_0809.png
- File:Kit_body_grashII_0809.png
- File:Kit_body_REDBULL_07a.png
- File:Kit_shorts_CHIVASUSA_10h.png
- File:Kit_shorts_SAFA_09a.png
These files are no longer desired and used on any wikipedia-page --Luxusfrosch (talk) 21:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted: (not by me) Jcb (talk) 22:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Files of User:Estambre16
[edit]I doubt own work. http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs466.snc4/50315_296702362159_1763708_n.jpg is much smaller but there are a lot of these images in the web. Is it in scope? Israel Benítez is not on es.wikipedia.org
RE rillke questions? 21:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Deleted Jcb (talk) 16:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)