Commons:Administrators/Requests/1234qwer1234qwer4 2
- Support = 36; Oppose = 4; Neutral = 2 - 90% Result. Successful. --Krd 06:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk · contributions (views) · deleted user contributions · recent activity (talk · project · deletion requests) · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)
- Scheduled to end: 22:29, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello again! After gaining further experience with particularly copyright-related deletions since my last RfA a couple months ago, I feel ready to put up my candidacy again. Having focused on the former as well as other kinds of regular and speedy deletion requests for a while now, I still plan my work as an admin to be concentrated around this area, helping with the massive backlogs Commons is experiencing. Apart from Commons, I actively participate in numerous other Wikimedia projects, and have been serving as a Meta-Wiki administrator for almost a year, as well as being a global AbuseFilter helper. Thank you for your consideration, and happy to hear your comments. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Votes
- Support --Bedivere (talk) 23:32, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
OpposeAs previous; not much time has passed since. (Maybe I would have changed my point a bit towards confidence, if the candidate (a Russian too, AFAICS) had publicly condemned the war; however I haven't seen such by now. That said, sorry but no.) --A.Savin 00:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)- I did not have any context to do so yet, but I yes, I remain horrified by the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and the war which has led to thousands of deaths and millions of refugees so far. I am deeply sorry for all Ukrainians and all victims of this pointless aggression, and hope that it ends as soon as possible. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 00:48, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Frankly, I'm alarmed that someone would oppose or only conditionally support another Wikimedian based on, in part, their nationality, creed, race, gender, religion, political ideals, or whether or not they had publicly commented on recent events in the world. What's worse, this discriminatory check was being made by an experienced community member in good standing. Not a good look. I don't think 1234qwer1234qwer4 owed any comment here, but I thank them for their understanding and well-thought response. Operator873 (talk) 01:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Welcome to Commons, glad that you've found the RfA page already. Well, you may have overlooked that this was nowhere close to a condition for whatever, but simply a private opinion by myself, which I'm hopefully free to express, also and especially in an RfA. Regards --A.Savin 02:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome, although I'm certainly not new. Can you explain how Maybe I would have changed my point a bit towards confidence isn't a failed conditional support check based on requiring public comment (if the candidate .. had publicly condemned the war) AND going further to specifically mention you are withholding support based on nationality ((a Russian too, AFAICS))? Can you explain where you gained this knowledge about the candidate or are you just guessing? I don't see definitive disclosure by 1234qwer1234qwer4 regarding their nationality anywhere. What is the source of your information? And finally, you are very welcome to express your opinion on the candidate here regarding their ability to support and protect the project with the sysop tools; however, no one is welcome to openly express discriminatory views against other editors. Full stop. Operator873 (talk) 02:54, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Since I don't like your tone and wording ("discriminatory" etc.), I'm not going to discuss further. And kindly request not to ping me anymore. Regards --A.Savin 03:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- With most respect, your idea of "personal opinion" doesn't quite add up with the context you decided to include. That's not an opinion, that's discrimination. Given the fact that this isn't just an open discussion where everyone can express their opinions, I wouldn't say that "I'm holding up my support unless this guy fullfills my requirements to earn it" in a context of a political bias you're only assuming. Just because someone has different opinions than you doesn't mean you're setting discriminatory conditions for your support. You eighter support or not. Don't give out conditions and argument it as "your opinion". That's not your opinion, that's an ultimatum. IMHO, that's not okay. Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 11:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Since I don't like your tone and wording ("discriminatory" etc.), I'm not going to discuss further. And kindly request not to ping me anymore. Regards --A.Savin 03:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome, although I'm certainly not new. Can you explain how Maybe I would have changed my point a bit towards confidence isn't a failed conditional support check based on requiring public comment (if the candidate .. had publicly condemned the war) AND going further to specifically mention you are withholding support based on nationality ((a Russian too, AFAICS))? Can you explain where you gained this knowledge about the candidate or are you just guessing? I don't see definitive disclosure by 1234qwer1234qwer4 regarding their nationality anywhere. What is the source of your information? And finally, you are very welcome to express your opinion on the candidate here regarding their ability to support and protect the project with the sysop tools; however, no one is welcome to openly express discriminatory views against other editors. Full stop. Operator873 (talk) 02:54, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Welcome to Commons, glad that you've found the RfA page already. Well, you may have overlooked that this was nowhere close to a condition for whatever, but simply a private opinion by myself, which I'm hopefully free to express, also and especially in an RfA. Regards --A.Savin 02:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with Operator873, “the encyclopedia that anyone can edit”. Raquel Baranow (talk) 01:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Frankly, I'm alarmed that someone would oppose or only conditionally support another Wikimedian based on, in part, their nationality, creed, race, gender, religion, political ideals, or whether or not they had publicly commented on recent events in the world. What's worse, this discriminatory check was being made by an experienced community member in good standing. Not a good look. I don't think 1234qwer1234qwer4 owed any comment here, but I thank them for their understanding and well-thought response. Operator873 (talk) 01:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- I did not have any context to do so yet, but I yes, I remain horrified by the unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and the war which has led to thousands of deaths and millions of refugees so far. I am deeply sorry for all Ukrainians and all victims of this pointless aggression, and hope that it ends as soon as possible. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 00:48, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Trusted with tools on other projects. No reason to oppose. Operator873 (talk) 01:04, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Again. Good to have bilingual, enthusiastic administrators. Raquel Baranow (talk) 01:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Based off my interactions with them, a great and knowledgeable candidate. No issues, so why not. Sea Cow (talk) 02:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Opposeyou again?--RZuo (talk) 06:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC) Neutral changed given special:diff/648867399.--RZuo (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)- Support – The candidate is knowledgeable and experienced with the tools elsewhere. I see no reason to oppose. Hulged (talk) 08:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support. —Hasley 11:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support no concerns. The oppose by A.Savin is mostly out of scope.-BRP ever 12:25, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sharing a personal impression about a sysop candidate is in scope of course... If that is no longer tolerated, where are we going to arrive some day? --A.Savin 14:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's just that it is completely irrelevant to the job at hand. I am not sure if it's tolerated or not, but putting forward such a condition where someone has expressed no views is out of scope in my opinion. I think commons will be a better place if those things are kept where relevant.-- BRP ever 06:20, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sharing a personal impression about a sysop candidate is in scope of course... If that is no longer tolerated, where are we going to arrive some day? --A.Savin 14:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Because I still see no reason not to!Herby talk thyme 14:48, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per last time. Jianhui67 T★C 18:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Good answers to the questions. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thank you for volunteering.--- FitIndia Talk ✉ 18:45, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support I have seen 1234qwer around and think he has a need for the tools and can be trusted not to abuse them. Epicgenius (talk) 04:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support, can be trusted and high comprehension on a test question by King of Hearts. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:34, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Mike Peel (talk) 13:17, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Bridget (talk) 14:01, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support aha! Stang★ 15:14, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support, same as last time. eviolite (talk) 16:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Andy Dingley (talk) 21:56, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 08:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support, I agree --Moises✯ () 15:38, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support * Pppery * it has begun... 17:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support EpicPupper (talk) 19:43, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support like last time. --Mirer (talk) 01:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:53, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support firefly ( t · c ) 10:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Russian (since it's now FIFA language): я всё-таки проголосую против: не нравится мне такая напористость всё-таки стать администратором. С учётом также того, что участник отлично знает русский (это конечно плюс кандидату), но при этом не живёт в России. Дальше я не буду развивать свой комментарий, чтобы это не перетекло в политику, оскорбления в сторону россиян и русских и т.п., так что неуместных ответов не жду. Тем не менее, в хорошем смысле надеюсь, что у участника всё получится в WIkimedia Commons, если он станет администратором, в том смысле, что у него получится на деле быть нейтральным администратором в такое непростое время, будучи русскоязычным человеком. I don't change my vote since previous request, and everyone can read it cause it's in English. --Brateevsky {talk} 10:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Was quite a bit pain to find it in the archived request. Really? The only reason why you don't support him is because you don't know him? I don't see that voting is conditioned to be from other admins nor do I see it being mandatory. All I see is that to pass, 75% of voters must agree with the request and support it. Nobody says every single user on this site is necessarily a voter. You could have casted a neutral vote, just expressing your opinion, or just write a commend down below. To be fair, if I don't know someone, then I don't vote. Why would I turn down someone I barely even know? Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 12:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- "You could have casted a neutral vote, just expressing your opinion, or just write a commend down below" - как-нибудь разберусь без вас, за кого или против кого мне голосовать. И вообще лучший совет от меня европейцам, особенно жителям Чешской Республики, в которой я, кстати был в 2018 году, - никогда и нигде не указывайте жителям России, что им делать. The only reason why you don't support him is because you don't know him? - it's not the only reason. Read the first and the second sensences, please, it contain information why I voted against the user. Google Translator will help you to translate from Russian to English. Brateevsky {talk} 15:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Was quite a bit pain to find it in the archived request. Really? The only reason why you don't support him is because you don't know him? I don't see that voting is conditioned to be from other admins nor do I see it being mandatory. All I see is that to pass, 75% of voters must agree with the request and support it. Nobody says every single user on this site is necessarily a voter. You could have casted a neutral vote, just expressing your opinion, or just write a commend down below. To be fair, if I don't know someone, then I don't vote. Why would I turn down someone I barely even know? Polda18 (discussion • contributions) 12:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Юрій Пазійт (talk) 02:41, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support, my vote still stands the same as on previous nomination. — Tulsi Bhagat [ contribs | talk ] 04:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Experienced user. Thanks for volunteering. Yahya (talk) 09:43, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support He has my support Gbawden (talk) — Preceding undated comment was added at 11:47, 12 April 2022 (UTC) (UTC)
- Support SeanJ 2007 (talk) 14:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Experienced user, would be helpful in tackling the DR backlog. Yeeno (talk) 20:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Taivo (talk) 09:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Michael (talk) 13:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Tol (talk | contribs) @ 21:49, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak support Very positive, except requesting 3,5Month after the last request again is imho too quick. — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 22:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- SupportGreat!--SD hehua (talk) 15:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose No me gusta que los responsables de Wikipedia se idetifiquen con pseudónimo. Alguien con responsabilidad debe ser reconocido por su nombre original. Raimundo Pastor (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Raimundo Pastor, I don't understand your vote. Are you opposing because their username is not their original name? Hulged (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Las personas que asumen responsabilidades que afectan a otras personas deben usar su nombre propio. Wikipedia NO debería asignar cargos de responsabilidad a quienes se esconden detrás de pseudónimos. Raimundo Pastor. 14/04/2022. Raimundo Pastor (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. Adminship is no big deal and there is nothing wrong with assigning user rights to those who don't use their original names as usernames, in fact, there are many users who who hold advanced rights and don't use their original name. Many users, including me, prefer to be anonymous and are using a random name. Even Special:CreateAccount warns users about choosing their original name as their username.Opposing based on not using real name doesn't make any sense and isn't fair. And please write in English as I don't know the your language and have to use a translator. Hulged (talk) 17:19, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Since Wikimedia Commons is a multilingual project, I think that generally everyone should be free to write in their language, and especially so thanks to the possibility of using a translator service. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:44, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This is Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. Adminship is no big deal and there is nothing wrong with assigning user rights to those who don't use their original names as usernames, in fact, there are many users who who hold advanced rights and don't use their original name. Many users, including me, prefer to be anonymous and are using a random name. Even Special:CreateAccount warns users about choosing their original name as their username.Opposing based on not using real name doesn't make any sense and isn't fair. And please write in English as I don't know the your language and have to use a translator. Hulged (talk) 17:19, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Las personas que asumen responsabilidades que afectan a otras personas deben usar su nombre propio. Wikipedia NO debería asignar cargos de responsabilidad a quienes se esconden detrás de pseudónimos. Raimundo Pastor. 14/04/2022. Raimundo Pastor (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Raimundo Pastor, I don't understand your vote. Are you opposing because their username is not their original name? Hulged (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support LGTM --DannyS712 (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
- A file is uploaded as "own work". In what cases should the file be speedily deleted as {{Copyvio}}? In what cases would you nominate it for regular deletion and/or use a tag like {{No permission since}}? And finally, in what cases is it fine to believe the uploader and leave the file alone? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- {{Copyvio}} is for obvious copyright violations, mostly when there is an online source for the image which lacks a free license and ideally confirms that it has been published there before the upload on Commons, at least for less recent uploads. Usually I use TinEye to find such a source for images where I have reason to doubt the authorship claim (e.g. professional-style photographs by new users, sophisticated logos and designs or artworks, which might be published online by the copyright holder); the "first found" date in TinEye can also be quite useful for determining the origin. Personally I rarely use {{No permission since}} for own work claims, employing it primarily when the file has source information but that cannot confirm the license, though I have seen it used when the uploader claims to be the professional photographer, designer or artist themself in the examples above. Since these cases are more likely to require more discussion with the uploader, I prefer using a regular deletion request in these situations. Deletion requests (as far as copyright is concerned, since we were only talking about that) are also used for TOO- and FOP- or other COM:DW-related discussions, where legal arguments by multiple users can be considered. Furthermore, some deletion requests are based on COM:PCP, when a source cannot be found online but there are other reasons for doubt, such as a non-trivial image with low resolution and no metadata (EXIF). Finally, own work claims are usually credible for experienced uploaders in good standing (though derivative works might be uploaded by those too and should not be disregarded), mundane images, or where the licensing and uploader's identity has been confirmed through the COM:VRT. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 08:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, You write English with a better level than en-2. Yann (talk) 09:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Apparently I haven't changed it for almost two years, though I don't feel like I speak English at a higher level (I only figured out yesterday that decisive is pronounced differently than I thought...), and unfortunately there is no way to distinguish that from writing. Either way, I will consider updating it. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)