User talk:Snowmanradio~commonswiki/Archive 2

Ara chloropterus

A photographer questionned your renaming of Ara Macao into Ara chloropterus, but I think you are right. He wrote his message on User_talk:Bryan#Picture_Question. Teofilo (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The lines of red feathers on its face indicate that it is not a Scarlet Macaw. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Green Rosella

Hi Snow, just wonder if you can help, I've noticed that I've been asked at rename a Green Rosella pic and have a 'click here' template to do this, unfortunately when I do, I'm told I don't have permission to do it! (see below)

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You do not have permission to do that, for the following reasons:

   * You do not have permission to move files.
   * Cannot move pages in namespace "File"

Do you have any ideas or should I just upload the same one with a new name? Aviceda (talk) 08:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Not many users can move files. If you want to use it on a wiki page soon, then it is much quicker to re-uploaded it and tag the old image with a bad name template for someone to delete, and then you know that its done. If there is plenty of time and you do not mind waiting then put a rename template on it and after some time (up to three weeks or more) someone will do the name change. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Pale-headed Rosella

Hi Snow, have uploaded File:Pale-headed Rosella kob02.JPG (this is race 'palliceps'....I think!) Aviceda (talk) 05:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I have seen it, but a bot has added a notice. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I see you have fixed the bot notice. Snowmanradio (talk) 20:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Frustration with Flickr upload of Ara militaris

Hi Snowmanradio - I'm a bit frustrated that you uploaded a duplicate of a photo I took from Flickr at File:Ara militaris -Cougar Mountain Zoological Park-8b.jpg, and then asked to delete the original which I already uploaded earlier. You placed it under the wrong license (these images are not cc-by - they're PD - Flickr would not allow me to choose the correct license, which I placed in the image description instead). You also said that my image was badly named. Do we have some kind of conventional preference for binomial names for animals in image names? If so I wold be happy to rename it. In any case can we resolve this? Thanks, sorry for the confusion. Dcoetzee (talk) 11:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I have explained that the name should have been "Military Macaw" and not "Military macaw" for one of the reasons why I uploaded the new photograph again with a better name. I can only upload the licence with the flickr licence, and putting an alternative licence in the caption is confusing. Where there are two licences on flickr a think that I have to upload with the more restrictive licence. The binomial name is better because it is more easily used internationally. Yes, is would be quite easy to sort this out - it would be clearer if you said in the caption on flickr that the CC flikr licence is replaced by the licence indicated in the caption, and that flickr did not have you licence you were looking for. It would be even clearer if you provided a link in the caption to a PD licence webpage, with the full legal definition of PD. I could then put the licence that you have chosen on the new image with the better name. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, at this point I just have to ask, what is with these weird alphanumeric suffixes you attach to everything? Like "8a"? Do they mean something? I really don't want to include them without a good reason... Dcoetzee (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

It helps to reduce accidental file name duplication - there are 135 in the Blue-and-yellow Macaw category. The end bit is a language independent identifier. There file names are unique anyway, so I have removed the identifiers at the end of the file name. Identifier might be the wrong word - it is a suffix. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see... just wanted to check. :-) Dcoetzee (talk) 00:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

For good reasons there is a proposal for the binomial names to be used; see Commons:Language policy. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Your mistake

The name of this file File:Ledňák modrokřídlý.jpg is accurate. You made mistake in the past (07.05.2008) in latin name, the Czech name is still OK. . --Dezidor (talk) 04:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

And I corrected the binomial name; see here. Sorry, about my confusion with the Czeck name, and I a glad we have multilingual people editing commons. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Aviary location request

Hi Snowmanradio, thank you, it was at the Dunedin Botanic Gardens, I've added the details and coords now. Benchill (talk) 23:44, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for adding the details and the garden category. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Thalasseus elegans -Port of San Diego -chicks-8.jpg and related pics

Hi Snowmanradio - these are OK for Elegant Tern, and there is a well-known colony of them in San Diego Port. The only possible doubt I can see is if they are Royal Terns, a very few of which breed in the Elegant Tern colony there. I'd be inclined to accept the photographer's ident from Flickr as Elegant, he/she would likely have known which they were. Do you have any other reasons for doubting their identities? - MPF (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I find it difficult to be 100% sure. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Revise {{Original}} ?

How about a revised {{Original}} template that displays the alternatives? eg File:Bul01BirdP019.jpg --Tony Wills (talk) 12:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I good idea, but it may need revised wording to be consistent with the thumbnail being shown:

"A version of this file more suitable for general use can be found here:"

OR

"A version of this file more suitable for general use is available; see thumbnail:" Snowmanradio (talk) 15:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Good idea, see revised version on File:Bul01BirdP019.jpg. But now I'm wondering whether putting {{Original}} in the "other versions" box is the best place. It is not actually very noticeable there as one expects to see thumbnails of other versions there anyway, and the primary purpose is to alert you not to overwrite it rather than inform you of the other versions. I wondered whether having {{Original}} at the top of the page would be better, eg File:Bul02BirdP036.jpg than below File:Bul02BirdP035.jpg. Perhaps a coloured background to the template?. The best place would be next to the "Upload a new version of this file" message, but that is a more fundamental change to the system. --Tony Wills (talk) 22:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You have made it available, but I expect different editors will put in anywhere on the page. For your pages put it were you think it is best. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

File:Phorusrhacid_-Terror_Bird_reconstruction-3.jpg

File:Phorusrhacid_-Terror_Bird_reconstruction-3.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

FunkMonk (talk) 12:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, Snowmanradio~commonswiki!

Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 02:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• Image:Forpus xanthopterygius -Brazil-6-4c.jpg was uncategorized on 6 September 2009.
  • Thank you for pointing this out; I have added a category now. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• Image:Aratinga weddellii -Beale Park, Reading, Berkshire, England-8a-4c.jpg was uncategorized on 7 April 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
• Image:Aratinga weddellii -Beale Park, Reading, Berkshire, England-8a.jpg was uncategorized on 7 April 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

• • Unfortunately, the bot can not removed the uncategorised template where there are categories present. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

I have 2 granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see the Meta page about rollback. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. Huib talk 18:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I would use it only for reverting vandalism. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi. I have granted you autopatroller rights. This was done in an attempt to reduce a backlog at Special:NewPages. If you have any questions, please let me know. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 20:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Category:Thryorchilus browni and others

Hi Snowmanradio - for consistency, so that everything is treated the same and appears the same (as far as possible) in the parent category (mixing genera and species in one category looks very odd, and is likely confusing for new users); it also means that future species splits are catered for, and avoids redlinks in taxonavigation template insertions. - MPF (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, if that is the way it is done. Snowmanradio (talk) 17:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Update

Originally, the OTRS message for these 20 images was not clear enough to save them all. So, I flickrmailed Mr. Wee and he agreed to license these 20 photos on a "Attribution Creative Commons" (cc by 2.0) license. I sent his message to Admin MBisanz to archive in an OTRS ticket. So, the OTRS message validates the permission and ensures the 20 photos cannot be deleted. OTRS is also used for non-flickr images like this here--one of the most important images of a world leader on Commons. Remember, there are 20 images here from Wee's flickr account but only 2 passed flickrreview. The other 18 can be deleted if someone filed a DR.

I hope this helps because those images should not end up in this purgatory where the flickr photos will all face deletion (very soon) if the flickrowner does not agree to change the license or send an OTRS message...as Mr. Wee did to me. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 06:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Otocolobus_manul_-front-4a.jpg

File:Otocolobus_manul_-front-4a.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

--The Evil IP address (talk) 13:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I only transferred to from en wiki. I would probably support its deletion. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Psittacula derbiana-20040821.jpg

Snow, the photo posted in media & commons is the only one I have of that specific bird.Dougjj (talk) 08:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

FP Promotion

★ This image has been promoted to Featured picture! ★ The image File:Buteo magnirostris -Goias -Brazil-8.jpg, that you nominated on Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Buteo magnirostris -Goias -Brazil-8.jpg has been promoted. Thank you for your contribution. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so.

/FPCBot (talk) 16:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Sicalis flaveola (male) -Brazil-8.jpg

Did you upload this unfree image? If you did, you should have typed in a {{Flickrreview}} at upload. Now it can be deleted at any time if someone files a formal DR because of this oversight. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I thought there was a bot that should have found this soon after upload. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Why 8?

I noticed you like 8 or 8a or something in filenames. Why is that? --MGA73 (talk) 20:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

• A lot of people put 01, 02, or 03 and 8 does not usually clash with anything. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

May I know...

what's wrong here that you used rollback? Thank you, — Dferg ^(disputatio) 20:42, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, I presume that I accidentally clicked the mouse at the wrong time. It might have happened when I was cleaning the mouse earlier. I have put the page back to its earlier state. Thank you for pointing that out. Snowmanradio (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply (got to go) & thank you for claryfying :). Happy hollydays, happy new year and best regards, — Dferg ^(disputatio) 10:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Budgerigar at Fort Worth Zoo

Hi Snowmanradio - basically through lack of proof of "wildtypeness" (if I may invent a new word). Agree it does look quite like one, but if you go back to the flickr set it came from, it is together with obvious cage breeds, which immediately makes it very dubious. Further, Australia banned the export of wild birds many years ago, so there are very unlikely to be any genuine wild-type birds outside of Australia. I was strongly tempted to put that German zoo pic in the domesticated ones as well, but that at least explicitly claims to be wild type, so I left that one in. If you feel that the Fort Worth should go back, I'll not revert it again (unless accidentally the next time I do one of my periodic sweeps of Cat:Melopsittacus undulatus!). - MPF (talk) 21:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Where is the proof of domestication? Snowmanradio (talk) 23:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

The evidence is in its location and companions! - and given the situation, the onus is to provide proof of its wildness, not of its domestication . . . where is the proof of its wildness? ;-) MPF (talk) 23:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I put it in the category for the species which there is no doubt, and this does not say anything about its wildness or domestication. I do not have to prove anything. You put it in the "Domesticated budgerigar" category, so I would like to here your evidence. I am unconvinced by the explanation that you have given above. Snowmanradio (talk) 00:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

"I think that a more sophisticated approach is needed to the category of Budgerigars than putting almost everything that is not a Budgerigar in the wild in a "Domesticated Budgerigar" subcategory. There could be a sub-categories: "Budgerigars in Zoos", Budgerigars pets with their cages", "Budgerigars in the wild", "Budgerigars with people", and categories for colour mutants" – good idea, go ahead and divide up Cat:Domesticated budgerigars. With only a couple of wild photos, I'd say they can stay in the main species category. - MPF (talk) 17:02, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

• I plan to have a look at it soon. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Rename - when should it be done

Hi Snowmanradio! It is nice that you want to help cleaning up at Commons. That is something we really need. As you may know there is more work than we can do and we have more backlogs than we should have. That is one of the reasons we try to prioritize what to do now, later or never. Other reasons could be to respect the choice of the author and not to create "dead links" if pages outside Wikimedia-projects uses the files.

Maybe you could take an extra look at Commons:File_renaming#What_files_should_be_renamed? and see if your suggestions are needed. Names should be changed is they are wrong, misspelled or meaningless but changing names to look them better is not needed.

Images can still be found if they have a good description or a good category. So it does not matter that image is called for example "My blue parrot Sugarboy".

And happy new year! --MGA73 (talk) 12:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

• I have looked at the guidelines on what files should be named again, and I think that the example that you mention comes into the category "change completely meaningless names into suitable names, according to what the image displays". I also change names "harmonize file names of a set of images", and I wonder if you had considered if a set of images is present. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

• With regards to my suggested renaming of "File:Laguna Colorada (Dec. 2006).jpg", it was to "harmonize file names of a set of images", which is an approved file name policy. I think you are wrong in deleting the other file, so I will be grateful if you would restore the file names that I had suggested in line with "harmonize file names of a set of images" and in line with the commons guidelines. Please look for sets of file-names in future, before criticizing rename options. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes if the filename is DC27453.jpg or Pic43.jpg it is completely meaningless. But "Blue parrot" is not meaningless if the image shows a blue parrot.

As for harmonize file names of a set of images that is used if to ease their usage in templates. Like Standard chess diagram and Category:Icons for railway descriptions/junction+crossing. If it is just a set of images of the same bird you can use "|other_versions=[[File:Other image.jpg|thumb]]". --MGA73 (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

My mistake on interpretation of the "set of file names", I did not think that it was just for templates and so on. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Your first example "My blue parrot Sugarboy.jpg", I think could be renamed, as it could be misunderstood. Your second example "Blue parrot.jpg", is probably reasonable in most situations. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:58, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

You have not asked me to explain what happened, but you have just criticised me for renaming file. I would not have chosen to rename this file. It was actually an accidental upload of a file that was already on commons, and I picked what was the best name of the two to keep. There is no mention of flamingoes in the file name that you kept, so I think that yours was not the best choice. Were you more interested in procedures? I would ask you to resort the best name available at the time and that is the name that included the flamingo. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I would think that "My blue parrot Sugarboy" would show a parrot called "Sugarboy". If you would think someting else feel free to suggest a rename. I was just afraid you would add {{Rename}} on hundreds or thousands of images. We have more than 5 million images and most of them could have better names.

If you rename a serie of images with bad names you can of course give them names to show they are a serie.

It was not meant to criticise you it was more a "Do we really have to rename?" and to tell why we prefer not to rename.

As for the flamingo image then categories can tell what image shows. Often images shows a LOT of things (example water, flamingos, trees, skyes, a rock, ???). If the flamingos are the main subject it would be natural to use that as a name. But maybe the uploader did not think of the flamingos but just saw it as a panorama of the area? --MGA73 (talk) 16:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

• I think that you should know better that to make a hint of an allegation to experienced users about using the wrong method to rename a file before you have any evidence of this. I find your intervention too presumptive, irritating, and largely waist of my time. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I should... (and hope I do)... But English is not my main language. And as I said it was not meant to bother you but to tell you that I do not think all of your suggestions for renames was neccecary and I wanted to tell you why. Thats all. --MGA73 (talk) 16:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I understand your intention and realise that you were acting in the best interests of the wiki. However, the "renames" that it seemed like I was making were a result of accidentally uploading flickr images that were already on commons. I would not deliberately go around and rename files like the one under discussion. I was faced with an accidental duplication and I genuinely thought that the file with the flamingos name it is was the best one. To me it looks like a nice scene of a lake showing the spacing in a flock of flamingoes. Sometimes when I accidentally do this I choose the original one as the best name and not the one I uploaded. I have learnt when to change a file name for a set of images, so you have helped. I have got some other things to do now. Happy new year. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Reply can be seen on my talk page where the reason for the comment of "about using the wrong method to rename a file" and the reply can be seen. Hope you will feel better when you read it. I don't blame you for getting upset reading my comment again and knowing your arguments. Sorry!

Feel free to "try again" if I reverted some of your rename requests and you still think rename should be done. Especially if I missed that identification is wrong. --MGA73 (talk) 17:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

On reflection, I do not think that the "flamingoes in lake" images should be renamed at this juncture. It was just that I was using an accidental duplication as an opportunity to consider what is the best of the two files names. It is not worth putting any more work into it in my opinion. The opportunity to give it a slightly better name has been missed now, and as you say, the images have a reasonable name anyway. I usually give a reason with the rename. I have only just added the rename to the green parrot on your talk page, so you did not miss that - it is a different species to the one indicted. The Alexandrian Parrots (adults and juveniles) have a dark red patch on their wings, which is absent on the parrot in the photograph. There are beak difference too. Your written English has very good gamma. Snowmanradio (talk) 17:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I just talked to the operator of the bot. As I understands it it finds dupes most of the times but there is no guarantee. So that is why you could upload duplicates and I could not...

As for renaming from one species to an other I normally wait a little so others have a chance to say "No you are wrong" unless it is the uploader that requests the rename. That is the only reason I did not do the rename of the parrot yet. --MGA73 (talk) 19:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

• I can wait a few days for that file to be moved. I am sure that I have provided the correct identification. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:12, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

File:1936 Vimy pilgrimage passport.jpg

FYI, it's common courtesy to let the uploader know when you put forward a document for deletion.--Labattblueboy (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, I thought that was done automatically by the software. I am used to working on en wiki with TW, which does all that notifying automatically, and I thought that using the tab on the left of the screen did the notifying as well. I will check out what happens next time. Anyway, I trust that you were watching the page. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

categorization of pronunciation files

Hi, it seems you are cleaning up what I have done wrong (without knowing so) with the categorization of the ogg files in Category:German pronunciation, such as this. Thanks! From the speed you are doing that I guess you must have some automated mechanism, right? Could you tell me in detail how you are doing that? I'm asking since I would like to upload many more such files, but of course I don't want to place such a stupid burden on anybodies shoulders. I'd much appreciate any help in this problem. I have been asking around, didn't get a substantial response so far. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 20:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I have done it as a two stage procedure with regular expressions. First to bring the page name to the file, and then to write the category indexation. I have done over 300 except some ones name "Kurt", which would need indexing with the surname I presume. Snowmanradio (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

All right. Is there (in AWB) an automated way to make a regular expression using the filename of the file to be altered or did you input that by hand? Jakob.scholbach (talk) 22:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

You have to write reg-expressions fit for the task, and I wrote regexs to do the work for both stages. I did not enter anything manually. It was clumsy using two stages and I have now thought of a way of doing what I did to fix your files by one simpler stage - although I have not written or tested new regexs. I think you will need to run AWB after upload on the files once. Probably the easiest way to do it is to put the file name on the page at upload with {{subst:PAGENAME}} - this will expand to give the filename when the file is saved (or uploaded), I think. Put this in the place where you want the category - with a clear line between the previous line - this will be like starting after my fist stage. Then run AWB using a regex and you will get it right in a one stage procedure. There are other ways to do it without writing the page name at the time of upload. Also use {{own}} for the author (see my edit to File:De-unterdrücken.ogg), which will give an internationalized name, and the date in the format (Date=2009-12-30) the same as the bot changed it to. If not, bots do this internationalization later. This does not work for peoples names in people categories which have to be indexed by the surname, but it is probably different for pronunciation categories. If you want to tidy up the other German files you will need a different regex, because the other files do not have the page name specially written on them at the time of upload. Anyway, when you have got the software working, you need a clear idea of what you want to fix when using the find and replace function and regex. At some stage you will need a regex to chop off the "De-" and the front of the name and the ".ogg" at the end of the name. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

• Suggestions:

• Think about adding the equipment that you used to record it after "recorded by myself". Snowmanradio (talk) 11:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
• Think about changing to "{{en|A recording to demonstrate the pronunciation of the German verb, verbwrittenhere.}}", which would need a regex to write the German word at the end. Ideally, the translation of the German word in English would be appended, which would probably need a small computer programme such as a perl script. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• Think about about the above also in German placed above the English in the file description "{{de|German language here, verbwrittenhere.}}", which would need a regex to write the German word at the end. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• Think about a link to German wicktionary (like {{wiktionary|robin}} or another format which does not include an icon), which has links to other languages, so non-German speaking people can find out what the word means. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• How does this look: "{{en|A recording to demonstrate the pronunciation of the German verb, [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/robin robin].}}" (I do not know the German to complete {{de|German language here.}}). Snowmanradio (talk) 11:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• Out of interest when you do the German nouns could you put some "generic" bird names in, such as bird, eagle, sparrow, hawk, penguin, parrot, owl, duck, swan, heron, and so on. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

• I think characters like "ä" should be replaced with "a" for indexation. I am not entirely sure about the wiki guidelines on this, but if this is correct, can you give me a full list of all the characters that need changing. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:06, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate it, given that I'm a complete novice in these matters. How do you like File:De-abriegeln.ogg?

About the nouns: yes, the project is to collect recordings of all German words on the German wiktionary. (This will need some more preparation though.)

About "ä" etc.: I don't know either, but changing ä to ae etc. strikes me as a bit unreasonable. I mean, it is probably no big deal replacing the w:en:Umlauts, but I think it leads ad absurdum if you attempt to do the same with Chinese letters, say. I personally would not change them. Also, not that the category does support umlauts such as here. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The date format must be yyyy-mm-dd (|Date=2010-01-11). On en commons it says 11 January 2010 and it will be different depending on the other languages. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the German words beginning with "t", then all the accents are at the end of the list. Is this how it is meant to be? Snowmanradio (talk) 21:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The links to the en and fr Wiktionaries are nonsense dead-end links - only the de Wiktionary will have the definition of this word. However, in the left side of the de Wiktionary (and all the other wiktionaries I expect) there are sometimes links to other language wikis, but not one for "abriegelon". Snowmanradio (talk) 21:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I have corrected the gramma for the English. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The date will now be right and I won't put links to English Wiktionary or French one. About the sorting: probably this is not the right way to sort them. In German, there are two variants in use: either ä is treated as a (hence Alter, älter, Altes), or ä is treated as ae. I still don't feel so comfortable with replacing them. I'll ask on village pump. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that it should be indexed without the accents going on what happens on en wikik. The accents still occur in the file description, but not for the indexation. It should be easy to swap the characters with accents for conventional characters for alphabetical sorting. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that Chinese words are irrelevant to the indexation of German words. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Did you see the sequence that languages are listed? - in alphabetical order - so it is de, en, and then fr. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Your reply at the village pump is; "in de: ä → a, ö → o, ü → u, ß → ss". Snowmanradio (talk) 00:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, so let's do it this way. Embarrassingly, I failed to build a regexp performing these replacements. Could you help me out?

Another troublesome point: I keep getting the message "The path is not a legal one" when performing the replacement operations on AWB (before saving the changes though). Do you by chance know what this means? Thanks a lot, Jakob.scholbach (talk) 10:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I do not know what the message that you keep getting is. Anyway, I have done them. There were 59 out of about 340 to change from your uploads. There were no words with two accents and one pronunciation phrase consisted of two words. This excludes "File:Kurt gödel.ogg", which I have not changed. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:18, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

To help me write the regexs: Are there likely to be two accents in the same word? How many pronunciations will be two or more words? If there are two or more words in a pronunciation file, can more than one word have an accent? So far I have written the regex for one-word phrases and only containing one accent. Currently I would need run over the list a second tome to change second accents in a word or phrase. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

It is unlikely but not impossible that one word contains two diacritics. Also, most files will consist of one word only. But I presume one could add several (10 times, say) rules in the Advanced mode in AWB, so this should be no problem? Jakob.scholbach (talk) 11:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I have done some 50 new files. Are you OK with this? I'm getting enerved by the slow pace of AWB though. I think in the long run I will need a bot doing this. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 21:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Seems quick enough to me. Snowmanradio (talk) 23:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, eventually there may be some 30.000 files, so even a single second for each file amounts to lots of time... Jakob.scholbach (talk) 14:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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• The sourcing written in the file details. Snowmanradio (talk) 10:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

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Enwiki conventions

Hi! The FPC nominations are clearly not the place to discuss this, so I'm moving it here instead if you don't mind. In short, Commons has its own rules, and while it's a good idea for images that were uploaded for enwiki use to follow the local rules, it makes no sense to require every image to follow enwiki rules regardless of whether the image is even used on that wiki. If you think it would be a good idea to introduce such a rule on Commons, here is the place to make that proposal. Not every Commons user should be expected to know enwiki's local conventions. Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 16:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I do not think that my talk page is the right place to discuss this more widely. If you wish to discuss wider aspects of this topic more widely, then you could start a discussion elsewhere. Snowmanradio (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Just thought I would pop in and give my two cents worth. From my understanding both lower case and upper case are completely acceptable here on commons. Cheers, Tiptoety ^talk 01:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, upper case just looks ugly :-) --Dschwen (talk) 03:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

• The first steps guidelines on commons refers to language wikis for formatting guidelines; see Commons:First steps/Upload form, which directly links to en:Wikipedia:IUP#NAME Image titles and file names on the en wiki to clearly show that the file extension should be in the lower case (jpg) there. The en wiki says "For uniformity, lower case file name extensions are recommended." I think that it is common sense and good practice that images candidates here should follow the guidelines in the biggest wiki, the en wiki. Snowmanradio (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

  No it's not. The English Wikipedia community writes policy for the English Wikipedia only. We have our own rules, and other wikis have theirs. Being bigger does not mean you get to dictate how things are done elsewhere. Jafeluv (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Commons recommends and wikilinks language wiki guidelines and specifically links the en wiki. It says on commons in the fist steps guidelines (linked above); "You should use a descriptive name and follow the draft Commons language policy and/or the Wikipedia naming conventions for the language used, which give guidance on capitalisation, non-alphanumeric characters, etc." Snowmanradio (talk) 17:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, it says that you should follow the conventions for the language used. The link goes to enwiki simply because you're reading the English-language version of the guide; the German version, for example, links to de:Wikipedia:Namenskonventionen instead. None of them say that everyone has to follow the conventions of The Biggest Wiki. Jafeluv (talk) 19:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• It is common sense to follow the guidelines of the language wikipedieas that do have guidelines. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Nope, sorry, I disagree. It's common sense to expect people to follow the guidelines of the wiki they're contributing to. If I want to use a file in xxwiki, I should be allowed to upload it under a name that meets xxwiki's guidelines (in addition to those of Commons, of course), without being expected to somehow know that yywiki follows different guidelines. Jafeluv (talk) 19:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Also noting that Commons is a multilingual project, and knowledge of English is by no means expected of our contributors. So arguing that people should follow an enwiki-specific guideline makes no sense. If you want to make it a convention here, you should start a policy discussion on Commons, so that if it's accepted it can be written in Commons policy and translated to other languages. Jafeluv (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Commons policy is already written - I expect in multilingual versions. The only file extensions recommended for photographs by commons is jpg and jpeg; see Commons:First_steps/Quality_and_description#Format_guidance. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• That's a help page; the policy is here. Neither page says anything about upper case file names. However, if you'd like to get community input on the subject, I have no problem with that. Jafeluv (talk) 12:37, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I would like to say that the page Snowmanradio refers to states the following : " Note that names are case sensitive, "Africa.PNG" is considered different from "Africa.png". For uniformity, lower case file name extensions are recommended." In my point of view, a recommendation is something you should try and follow but is not a law that you have to follow. Secondly, if you would want to talk to the big guys at Nikon so they change their settings to have .jpg instead of .JPG that would be great until then I may forget to change it on every picture I take... So my recommendation would be the following: Uppercase is a bit ugly but it is an accepted format and there is not much we can do about it. Stating it on the page of every picture that has a upper case extension won't change anything. Maybe we could try and ask for a change in the upload form so it won't accept uppercase extensions. But I guess this is not the place to discuss this. --Letartean (talk) 13:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with pointing out this recommendation to the users that may not be aware of it. Camera manufactures can use uppercase JPG, if they want to; nevertheless, the commons recommends lowercase jpg. When camera software uses uppercase JPG, it is really easy to rename a file so that jpg is changed to the lowercase, and I really do not think that there is any need to communicate with camera manufacturers. I think that FPs should set a good example and so I think that informing photographers of FPCs is worthwhile. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

"the commons recommends lowercase jpg" – we recommend no such thing. Both formats are equally acceptable per our guidelines (as opposed to those of enwiki). Several FPs have a .JPG extension^{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, etc.} and as far as I can tell this has never been a problem for anyone. Jafeluv (talk) 10:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

It seems that some FPs have got through with an uppercase JPG, but that is not the same as a policy. See the commons policy at Commons:First_steps/Quality_and_description#Format_guidance. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess you missed my comment above (understandable, considering the traffic ). The page you link to is not policy, and does not mention anything at all about uppercase file extensions being allowed or not. Nor does the actual policy page at Commons:File naming. So it's incorrect to say that the images "got through", as though there was something wrong with them. If you look at the FPCs, you'll see that nobody even objected to the uppercase extension. (And if you don't trust my examples, there are a lot more here). Just because a help page describes the JPG format as having "extension .jpg or .jpeg" does not mean that uppercase extensions are disallowed by policy. And just for the record, I'm not against the idea per se, as long as it's based on community support and not enwiki colonialism or the wording choice on some help page. I understand that you feel strongly about the issue, but the place to get community support behind it is either the talk page of the policy proposal or the village pump. Jafeluv (talk) 12:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hello Snowmanradio and others. Frankly, I don't care with this problem. But I must say this:

• I put on "Commons" photos with a ".JPG" extension only because Mr.Sony made my camera so.
• I don't know en:wiki and his guidelines. Here i'm on "Commons". Not exactly the same thing, even I accept (because I'm a good guy, and because of the rules of "Commons") to use (badly, I know) Shakespeare's (Google's ?) language, and please never forget it's very hard to me, as french native. Je préfèrerais vraiment utiliser la langue de Molière.
• Even I'm a bad english user, I know that recommandation is different from obligation (two french words ).
• JPG or jpg ? Ugly ore not ugly ? That' the question, as Molière said. But that's a matter of taste, and "Commons" must be neutral about religions.
• Is this debate really interesting ? And why ?
• I dont want to cause any disease to everybody. No matter here for a nuclear war. I'll now try (but, as Letartean only try, please forgive if I forget) to change my picture's extensions in ".jpg" the next times.
• And apoligies to Snowmanradio for so invading his user's page.

::::*--Jebulon (talk) 14:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

• I think that you [User Jebulon] have understood my comments except commons is not neutral, because it does have a view and its recommendation is only to use jpg or jpeg in the lower case for photographs; see Commons:First_steps/Quality_and_description#Format_guidance. I hope that conscientious users will have the wish to follow the recommendations of both commons and at least the English language wiki and use the lower case jpg. Does the French wiki have any guidelines? Snowmanradio (talk) 16:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
• Yes the french "wiki" have a guideline, of course... But here we are on "Commons", and I try to follow the french guidelines for "Commons", which is not a apparently a simple translation of the english guideline for "Commons". The problem is that all the names of files extensions are written with the upper case here...--Jebulon (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

• On the French wiki they are using the uppercase to indicate file types and not file extensions. The image used as an example has the file extension jpg in the lower case; see File:Narbonne Cathedrale Saint Just et Saint Pasteur.jpg. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:29, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
• Nice photo, and nice city. Do you know ? I do. However, I don't see anywhere in the french wiki's guideline nor an instruction neither a recommandation to use lower cases or upper cases in naming file extensions. I'll continue my researches, even we are here on "Commons" and not on a national wiki. For me that's the end of this discussion, because I'm sure you'll never be wrong, whatever I could say... I'll just continue to put lower case file extensions names if I don't forget it. (It's finally what you want, is'nt it ?). Friendly,--Jebulon (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

• The commons guideline is clear; see Commons:First_steps/Quality_and_description#Format_guidance - is says; "For photographs, use JPEG (file extension .jpg or .jpeg)." If the French wiki does not have any guidelines on this topic, I do not see that anyone should disregard the commons guidelines. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

• The only thing this guideline says is that photographs should be in the JPG format and states the forms it can take (jpg or jpeg). It only means IMO that you have to use the jpg format not .png or .gif or whatever unknown format your pictures may be in. It is clearly not a statement on the form of the extension. And I repeat myself, we should ask to change the upload form to refuse any uppercase format if we really think this is important. After that, a bot should change the remaining names that don't follow this new guideline. But to conclude, I think even your interpretation of the commons guideline is really farfetched. --Letartean (talk) 16:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

• I think that there is only one way to interpret the commons guideline, "For photographs, use JPEG (file extension .jpg or .jpeg)." I think that it means that jpg or jpeg are recommended for photographs, and both of these are in the lower case. A bot would not be able to change all JPG to jpg, because some files have the same name with a different file extension, because of the use of the uppercase JPG against the guidelines; see File:Carrots.JPG and File:Carrots.jpg which are different photographs. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I don't see the policies on .JPG versus .jpg as being quite so clear as you evidently do. In any case, the village pump might be a better place to raise this than on many individual featured proposals. Jonathunder (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

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Renaming of categories

I'm curious – why do you think "Category:Birds in the Jurong Bird Park" is less correct than "Category:Birds in Jurong Bird Park"? I'm not kicking up a big fuss over the renamed categories (must have taken you a while!), but doesn't the missing definite article make the category name look rather odd? — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 08:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it seems odd with "the". One does not say; "birds in the England". There were many errors in the categories; Sumatran trogons should be Sumatran Trogons, Scarlet macaws should be Scartel Macaws, and so on. Snowmanradio (talk) 10:54, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, one does not say "birds in the England", but that is because England is a country. We do, for instance, say, "Let's go and see the polar bears in the London Zoo today" and not "Let's go and see the polar bears in London Zoo today" (or at least the first-mentioned form is no less grammatical than the second). As for the capitalization of the bird names, it seems there is a difference of opinion as to whether this is always appropriate (see "Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Dispute: Life form capitalization run rampant") but I accept that one school of thought requires capitalization. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 11:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

• "Joe went to London Zoo" sounds find to me. The wiki commons main page says; "Welcome to Wikimedia Commons" (and not Welcome to the Wikimedia Commons"). WP Birds on en wiki use upper case common bird names in line with IOC. The dispute that you linked is not a commons guideline. There are internationally accepted styles of common bird names and binomials. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:44, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Higher resolution

Hi Snowman, I saw you made an edit to a picture I cropped and uploaded more or less the same but with a higher resolution, how did you do that as I would also like to be able to do it. Regards. Off2riorob (talk) 21:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Also to let you know I tightened your crop (I wanted to remove the baby blanket out of the pic at the bottom) and I have inserted that pic into her BLP on en wiki so the first one and yours are likely redundant now and could be deleted? Off2riorob (talk) 21:12, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Work on the highest resolution. Get the highest resolution image by clicking on it to enlarge it and then download it with a right click to select the action. I would keep both versions. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, many thanks for the explanation, simple. regards. Off2riorob (talk) 00:08, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Birds at Zoos?

Hi Snowmanradio, I wonder about the moving from Category:Birds in Vogelpark Walsrode to Category:Birds at Vogelpark Walsrode. To me it looks as if birds are in zoos and more generally animals are in zoos and not at zoos. -- Ies (talk) 15:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Nearly all the other cats are "Birds at xyz zoo", and several have been moved to this format recently. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

As nearly all the other cats are "Animalxyz in xyz zoo" I don't understand why you make this exception for birds. Please enlighten me. -- Ies (talk) 04:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

See Category:Birds by zoo. Snowmanradio (talk) 10:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

At this page one can see that some categories recently were moved from "Birds in xyz zoo" to "Birds at xyz zoo". One can not see why. No explanation, no discussion there. Therefore once again: Please enlighten me WHY you move "Birds in xyz zoo" to "Birds at xyz zoo" while nearly all the other cats are "Animals in xyz zoo". Isn't there a reason? What is wrong with "Birds in xyz zoo"? No more elusive answers please. -- Ies (talk) 05:48, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

It is a language preference. I wikilinked the Category:Birds by zoo above to indicate that most of the bird category are in the style "Birds at xyz zoo", and this was not meant to be an elusive comment. Other editors have been making new categories using the style "Birds at xyz zoos"; see Category:Birds at South American zoos. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Seems that other users already got misled by you. You still don't explain why you moved "Birds in xyz zoo" to "Birds at xyz zoo" while nearly all the other cats are "Animals in xyz zoo". Isn't the fact that nearly all the other cats are of the type "Animals in xyz zoo" not reason enough to move the bird categories even reverse than you did? Why do you boost a deviating style for the birds? Why don't you want a common style for all the animals including the birds? -- Ies (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

The categories "Animals in xyz zoo" are held in the category Category:Animals in zoos by zoo name. At the present time there are 14 in the format "Animals at xyz zoo" and 9 in the format "Animals in xyz zoo". With such wide usage of the format "Animals at xyz zoo" and "Birds at xyz zoo" I feel entirely justified in using "Birds at xyz zoo". Snowmanradio (talk) 19:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Cropped image

I saw your message to MGA73. Its strange the uploader cropped the image of the lake & the mountain so much just to upload a new image of the mountain over the pre-existing image. He should just have created a new image. As for me, I once struggled to find a good image of a huge mountain in Bolivia and then I had to ask for a license change. It was a fabulous image too...the ones you find in text books. The flickr owner changed the license and never told me but I still credited him in the image title since he took the photo:

• File:Mount Illampú in May 2007 (Cody H).jpg

I did not know there were SLRs in 2007 but I was ignorant then. I also can't spend thousands of dollars on the top of the line cameras, anyway....as I have other priorities in life. But at least the image is gorgeous. Since then another image of this mountain has come out but its less clear and was taken at a greater distance. You like birds and wildlife and I have ancient history which is my hobby here like this and this. I used to get a lot of images licensed freely in 2008 and in much of 2009 but I've been ill since the end of 2009...and have stopped. You likely know this but this is my wiki userpage. One person did not like it and partly vandalised it but an Admin reverted it. Most people leave me alone. That is why I like Commons more. There is a lot less sockpuppetry and wheelwars whereas there were Admin wheelwars on wikipedia which were ugly. Its generally peaceful here.

• BTW, I only upload over a pre-existing image to get the original size. Many uploaders crop the lowest size image for no clear reason....like this and I fix the situation. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Сталинские_высотки_-Vysotka_skyscraper_(Seven_Sisters)_-5Dec2009.jpg

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File:Coracias cyanogaster -London Zoo, England-8a (1).jpg

Hi, I noticed that you uploaded one of my images (File:Coracias cyanogaster -London Zoo, England-8a (1).jpg) from Flickr (I am the same as the "unnormalized" user on Flickr). Actually, I was planning on uploading the image myself, and was amused to see that someone had beaten me to it. (I take a lot of images like this specifically for Wikipedia uploading.)

I've uploaded a higher-resolution version of the same image; if you find any of my other images useful for Commons, feel free to upload them; if you could drop a note on my Talk page for any images of mine that you upload, that would be great too. Stevenj (talk) 12:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

(It looks like you've uploaded several of my other images, identifying some of the birds that were unlabelled. Thanks! I've updated the author information on these to indicate my real name and link my commons page.) Stevenj (talk) 13:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I think that your higher resolution images are an improvement. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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• File:Cacatua goffiniana -captive-8a-3c.jpg

File:Cacatua goffiniana -captive-8a.jpg the uncropped version does have OTIS permission. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

In vs. at

Please explain this. --Ragimiri (talk) 12:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I have changed it to speedy. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:06, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Nice, but where is specified, that at is better than in? --Ragimiri (talk) 20:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems to me that "at" is being used more frequently here. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Please respect that "in" preposition is preffered as location attribute on Commons. See proposal Commons:By location category scheme which tries (among others) to desribe established common principles.

A potentially controversial moving should be proposed and discussed before realization. Also "speedy deletion" request should be used only in uncontroversial cases. Cheers. --ŠJů (talk) 22:12, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Andrea Lawardi Photographs

Hi Snowmanradio,

I noticed you uploaded a bunch of photos from Flickr authored by Andrea Lawardi (seems to be mostly bird photos). I checked the license on several of them and notice they seem to be under copyright. They were uploaded in 2008, so it is perhaps possible the author changed the license, but I was wondering if you see something there I am missing. Eg File:Lorius garrulus -Bali Bird Park-4.jpg. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for finding this. There has been a change of licence on Flickr, so I have added the {{Flickr-change-of-license}} notice. What you have missed is that the "Flickr upload bot" will not upload an image from Flickr with the wrong licence. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Bronx Zoo categories

After coming back from a couple weeks on break, I see that you've changed the subcategories for the Bronx Zoo structure to omit "the"; e.g., Category:Primates at the Bronx Zoo is now Category:Primates at Bronx Zoo. Could you please provide a link to the discussion that renamed these categories? I don't think it's grammatically correct in general to omit the "the", but regardless of general principles it's incorrect in this particular instance. Postdlf (talk) 21:40, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

There have been a number of discussions started about "the" in zoo categories started by User Dysmorodrepanis see this request also Category:Birds at the Philadelphia Zoo and Category:Birds at the Columbus Zoo. No one objected in the 2 weeks leading up to a move. Nevertheless, I think that "Birds at xyz zoo" is correct in UK English. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

A few issues. One, on what basis do you think "at XYZ zoo" is correct? Two, why would it be appropriate to apply UK English to American topics? Three, even if omitting the "the" would be appropriate for other American zoos, because it's "the Bronx" (it would be incorrect to say "I live in Bronx"), the Bronx Zoo might merit a different treatment. I spend a lot more time dealing with categories on Wikipedia rather than Commons, where it seems that there unfortunately isn't much infrastructure and process for dealing with these kinds of things. There should be more of a centralized discussion on these matters rather than a unilateral and/or piecemeal approach, and I think that discussion should happen before any more are changed. Incidentally, this (not done by you) is an unacceptable way to attract notice for a discussion; when such an edit is marked as minor with no edit summary, it's hardly surprising that no objections arose. Postdlf (talk) 13:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I only know UK English and I do not know if these category names would be different or not in US English. In England we do not say; "I live in the London", and to me "Birds of the London Zoo" sounds wrong. Weeks ago I raised the users previously scant edit summaries with him; see my edit. I would appreciate a central discussion on the topic of zoo category names, so that these commons categories might have good and consistent names, but I fear that not many people will participate. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

We wouldn't say "I live in the London" or "the New York City" in American English either; that it's "the Bronx" is a linguistic oddity for a place like that. But we would certainly say "I went to the London Zoo". This usage is reflected in major publications; note this NY Times article using "at the Bronx Zoo" in both the photo caption and article text. Postdlf (talk) 15:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not know much about US English. I have put the categories back in the way that you describe is correct. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:56, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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Help with birds

I believe you are knowledgeable about birds...? If that's rights, could you help me with a few images please?

There's a few images which need improved descriptions, and aren't categorised yet:

• File:Amazon World birds at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010.JPG
• File:Amazon World bird at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010.JPG
• File:Amazon World bird at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010 2.JPG
• File:Bird in Clissold Park aviary.JPG

There's some which I think are correct but could do with checking:

• File:Harris Hawk at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010.JPG
• File:Harris Hawk at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010 2.JPG
• File:Harris Hawk at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010 3.JPG
• File:Harris Hawk at Southern Vectis Bustival 2010 4.JPG
• File:Egyptian Geese on River Thames at Staines.JPG
• File:Egyptian Geese on River Thames at Staines 2.JPG
• File:Feral Pigeons at Stoke Newington Brooke Road.JPG
• File:Feral Pigeons at Stoke Newington Brooke Road.JPG

If you could have a glance over those it would be much appreciated. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 18:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I am identified a few. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:03, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you very much, much appricated. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 22:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Re:

Changes made, see image page --Muhammad (talk) 13:58, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: File:Madagascar green pigeon.jpg. Thank you for adding the location to the image description. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Why was the file deleted? --Muhammad (talk) 07:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Moved to File:Treron calvus -at a zoo in Tanzania -upper body-8.jpg, because it is an African Green Pigeon. Snowmanradio (talk) 12:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

A note

Just a note on this image Admin MGA73 knew how to mark it. It was not a picasa or flickr image. He knows how to mark such images. I don't. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Isle of Man

Hi - I've reverted this edit of yours - please note that the Isle of Man is a separate Crown dependency (like the Channel Islands) and does not form a constituent of the United Kingdom. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 11:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you. Excuse my ignorance. Snowmanradio (talk) 11:21, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem - it's a common mistake :-) —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 14:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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It was a file with typos in file name and I have uploaded a good name file. I have just listed it for deletion. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Erithacus rubecula -Canary Islands, Spain -juvenile-8.jpg

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Did you mean File:Erithacus rubecula -Canary Islands, Spain -juvenile-8.jpg. The copyright licence is on flickr and is clearly suitable for commons. The "©" on the image has little meaning when the image is actually released under a creative commons licenceSnowmanradio (talk) 18:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have moved the page to File:Erithacus rubecula -Canary Islands, Spain -adult-8 (2).jpg, because it had a bad name. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The file is now at File:Erithacus rubecula -Las Palmas, Canary Islands, Spain-8.jpg. The image with the copyright watermark is in the file history. The administrator who deleted the image did not understand copyright. Snowmanradio (talk) 17:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Kaaba_-Mecca_-Saudi_Arabia-1Aug2008.jpg

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Speedy deletion requests

Hi! If you fill in speedy deletion requests, please always mind giving the reason for the request in the first parameter. Thank you, abf «Cabale!» 15:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, I have been putting the reason in the edit summary. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Eupodotis afraoides Kruger National Park-8.jpg

Thanks for uploading this file. The name and category should however read Kalahari or Kgalgadi, as the Flickr details indicate. The species does not occur in Kruger. Sure it was just a late night oversight. JMK (talk) 18:52, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Well spotted. The Flickr sets are a little misleading, but the camera geo-location is clear. I have corrected the file details, which is now at "Eupodotis afraoides -Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park, Botswana-8.jpg". Snowmanradio (talk) 19:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Knysna Turaco

Thanks for the above.

Maybe you know how to fix the following, as I don't, and any help would be appreciated:

File:Tauraco corythaix.jpg is in fact Tauraco persa, and so is File:Knysnaloerie.jpg

There is as yet no picture of Knysna Turaco (T. corythaix) on wikipedia, which has an even crest with a white border. If you can trace a picture and upload it, it would be very useful. JMK (talk) 17:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The following three files are also misidentified, and should be placed with Tauraco persa as well: Knysna Turaco.jpg, Tauraco corythaix-001.jpg (T. p. buffoni) and File:Birds of Eden-005.jpg. But I see that this one: File:Tauraco corythaix -Knysna, Western Cape Province, South Africa-8.jpg, is indeed a Knysna, though a crop or better photo would be welcome. JMK (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Reformatting for working on files: Snowmanradio (talk) 18:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Tauraco persa Guinea Turaco
  • File:Tauraco corythaix.jpg - Category:Oasis Park - Bird 1055 at en:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Birds_for_identification_(105)
  • File:Tauraco corythaix-001.jpg (T. p. buffoni) - Birds of Eden
  • File:Birds of Eden-005.jpg - Category:Birds of Eden
  • File:Knysnaloerie.jpg - Birds of Eden
  • File:Knysna Turaco.jpg - unknown location ? Japan

Above being investigated. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:45, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• Well spotted again. Several people have worked on it and I think the mess has been sorted out. Snowmanradio (talk) 10:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks so much. I added the following note to the discussion: "The Turaco section looks much better now, thanks to all. I converted Green Turaco to a disambiguation page, and hope this will also assist." JMK (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Vanellus cayanus, Kruger.jpg

If I may intrude again. The above file name suggests the Pied Plover of South America, but should refer to V. armatus, Blacksmith Lapwing of Africa. JMK (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Moved to File:Vanellus armatus -Kruger National Park, Kenya-4.jpg and removed from several language wikis. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Turaco categories

Thanks again, and for your upload of the Livingstone's Turaco picture.

There are two categories on wikipedia, Category:Turacos and Category:Tauraco. Though not identical concepts, this is very confusing and is splitting the group in two. JMK (talk) 08:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure what the difference is. This is the sort of question that you could ask on WP Birds on en Wiki, and perhaps the solution will become clear there. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Sophie_Ellis_Bextor-1.jpg

Hallo Snowmanradio, I had to revert your change - you've linked a completely different picture! Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, I have put it in the Sophie Ellis-Bextor category and shown the higher resolution image. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

File:Myiopsitta monachus -pet perching on cage-6a.jpg‎

Hello, I am the creator of this picture and don't remember allowing nor requesting the change in the title of this picture. I would like it moved back to File:NH Gumdrop.JPG. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 08:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I have taken this up with COM:AN and you can chime in here. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 11:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Replied over there. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

@Snowmanradio, it seems your speedy-to-DR change went partly wrong. Please perform all 3 steps listed on the image page. --Túrelio (talk) 13:45, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Please wait a few mins before leaving a memorandum, because I am working on it and having to check messages adds delays. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, I have followed the deletion instructions. I might have got there in the end; nevertheless, your memorandum was useful. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Baltic Princess

Please read the discussion about the names of ships on Commons. We try to avoid the prefix MS as this is at least language dependable. One must add the name of the ship in alle categories, otherwise one has to add |Baltic Princess to the name. Otherwise all ships arrive in a category MS. To make a claer name possible the year of completion of a vessel is used in the name. This ship is of 2008. So if you use for this ship Category:Baltic Princess (ship, 2008), you stay in line. --Stunteltje (talk) 12:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I have repaired the category. I hope you liked the new photograph of the ship I uploaded. Snowmanradio (talk) 14:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice picture. I like File:NB 1361 forward.jpg too, because it shows the vast dimensions of these ships. Thanks for your help to reduce the number of MS names. No problem at all to use the prefix in de English description. --Stunteltje (talk) 14:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Cerdocyon_thous_-Parque_Municipal_Summit,_Panama-8a.jpg

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Bird identification

Thank you for correcting "two parrot species misidentified comprising three photographs". Do you remember what changes your made? I probably have the same mistakes on my website carolinabirds.org and would like to fix those blunders. Also, thanks for the suggestion about inquiring at Birds WikiProject for help in checking on bird IDs. I will certainly do that. DickDaniels (talk) 14:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

HELP! I did just add the request to WikiProject_Birds, but there is a problem. I ended the request with four tildas, and DickDaniels was inserted by the editor, but the text indicates "User:DickDaniels page does not exist." Perhaps the problem is that I recently edited my talk page and maybe removed something critical? Thanks DickDaniels (talk) 15:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Regarding my first comment above - I found 2 species that you changed (Wagler's Conure and Scarlet Macaw). Thanks! So disregard my first comment. Regarding my second comment - I see that you have added comments to the WikiProject_Birds talk page that now allow volunteers to link to my user page. Thanks! So disregard that comment too.DickDaniels (talk) 07:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I made the "parrot" changes you suggested on my website, carolinabirds.org. Thanks again. Pertaining to your request to bring "Pyrilia haematotis and Platycercus venustus" to Wikimedia. I emailed a request to both photographers a couple of days ago and have not heard anything yet. It looks discouraging, but I'll let you know if if anything happens.DickDaniels (talk) 21:01, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Pyrilia haematotis

Per your suggestion, I contacted the photographer and he finally did get back to me with permission to use his photos. The photos that I added to Commons are: File:Brown-hooded Parrot 1 Eduardo Rivero.jpg File:Brown-hooded Parrot 2 Eduardo Rivero.jpg This was the first time I uploaded photos that were not mine, so would you please check to see if I messed anything up. Thanks. DickDaniels (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

• Much appreciated. I have shown them both on the en wiki species page. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the help

Hi, Thanks for help here and here --Rameshng (talk) 07:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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File:Ciconia_ciconia.png

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File:Merry Ducksmas (HD).ogv

Hi, have you by any chance tried playing either of these OGVs ? If you did you might find that File:Merry Ducksmas (HD).ogv is larger, 1,280×720 pixels, and plays reliably with most players (and in my browser), whereas File:Anas platyrhynchos -Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, USA- parent and chicks-8.ogv has only 640×360pixel frames, and I could only play it after downloading it and using VLC. So who wants a file named "File:Anas platyrhynchos -Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, USA- parent and chicks-8.ogv" when they could have " File:Merry Ducksmas (HD).ogv" ;-) ?? --Tony Wills (talk) 11:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

PS Strickly speaking they're not scaled exact duplicates, the sound channel is recorded at different bit rates. But the whole point about not having scaled down duplicates is simply because the wiki automatically scales images (instead of sending the full size image and leaving it to the browser to scale to fit). As far as i know that doesn't apply to any animated files (even GIFs) - it just sends the whole file, so retaining a scaled down version makes sense, so we could keep your favourite version too :-). --Tony Wills (talk) 11:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I see. My mistake. Yes, you are right. My software reduced the size of the one I uploaded without me being aware that it had done that. I have renamed the larger version, which is now at File:Anas platyrhynchos -Georges Island, Boston Harbor, Massachusetts, USA- parent and chicks-8.ogv. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok :-). But argghh, you do like longggg file names! File names on Commons are really not important, they are (normally) only in a single language, the important thing is to have decent descriptions in multiple languages - we don't guess at a likely filename when searching for files, we use search software. The main time we use the filename is when editing wiki articles or Commons gallery pages - perhaps the main criteria is that the filename be descriptive enough to remind of what it's of, unique enough to distinguish other similar files and short enough to remember.</soapbox> Sorry, I'll say no more :-) :-) --Tony Wills (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

The guidelines approve descriptive file names. The binomial and place name should be understandable in any language. Snowmanradio (talk) 08:00, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm not trying to persuade you to change the filename, but just provide a bit of food for thought on the subject :-).

Binomial? ... Background: File renaming is discouraged as, besides consuming human and computing resources, it just adds to general link rot on the internet. Also within the wikis only references that are links to the file are ever updated, but other mentions of the file on wiki pages (including archived pages and logs and edit summaries) are not updated and so it is very difficult to follow these threads.

Which leads me to binomial names ... every time some plant/animal is reclassified (eg through DNA research) its name seems to change, so if we standarise on using binomial names we've committed ourselves to ongoing unnecessary filename churn (others disagree ;-). Ok, I really, really, really will resist commenting further :-) Merry Easter ;-) --Tony Wills (talk) 10:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The guidelines approve of moving "File:Merry Ducksmas (HD).ogv", because the file name is misleading. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Anas_platyrhynchos_-Boston_Harbor,_Massachusetts,_USA-_parent_and_chicks-8.ogv

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UserB (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Waltham, The Duke of 18:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Acanthorhynchus tenuirostris ANBG.jpg

(since my edit summary was cut off) The second revision is correct. The first was denoised with the Photoshop "reduce color noise" slider set too high accidentally, changing the iris color. You are at least as likely as not to get things wrong when making assumptions like that without checking with the author of an image. JJ Harrison (talk) 10:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Your edit summary "fix eye" seems inadequate to me. Snowmanradio (talk) 13:21, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Paradise Shelduck (Tadorna variegata) -New Zealand.jpg

Hi, I was thinking of nominating File:Paradise Shelduck (Tadorna variegata) -New Zealand.jpg for deletion as it looks to me as though the colours have been strangely edited, and of no practical use. But I see it was uploaded by you from flickr, so thought I'd check what you know about this image. :-) --Tony Wills (talk) 11:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

The user seems to have moved or deleted it from Flickr, so I do not have much information about the image. Snowmanradio (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

FP Promotion

★ This image has been promoted to Featured picture! ★ The image File:Sayornis phoebe -Owen Conservation Park, Madison, Wisconsin, USA-8.jpg, that you nominated on Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Sayornis phoebe -Owen Conservation Park, Madison, Wisconsin, USA-8.jpg has been promoted. Thank you for your contribution. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so.

/FPCBot (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Edit

That edit does not use the rollback function. A rollback edit (example) will have an automatically generated summary on the lines of "Reverted edits by X to last revision by Y". A rollback edit doesn't allow custom info - that's the undo function which is quite different (For a start - Rollback is restricted, undo isn't).--Nilfanion (talk) 21:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I see. Snowmanradio (talk) 22:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Alisterus scapularis -Victoria -Ausralia -adult male-8.jpg

Good evening, I'm afraid I don't understand why you removed a proposal for renaming. It's Australia, not Ausralia. Ices2Csharp (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Well spotted. I have put commas in it. It is at File:Alisterus scapularis -Victoria, Australia -adult male-8.jpg. Snowmanradio (talk) 21:36, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Ices2Csharp (talk) 21:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Ramphastos toco -Parque das Aves, Brazil -two-8a.jpg

hello, the file Ramphastos toco -Parque das Aves, Brazil -two-8a.jpg is under all rights reserved in flickr. please check the license and if it true, please delete the image. Benjli (talk) 10:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

The file was uploaded with a bot, which can not upload copyrighted work. The flickr photographer has changed the licence, but the CC licence can not be revoked. I have added a template, which explains this, to the file. Snowmanradio (talk) 00:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Seaweed_farming_-Nusa_Lembongan,_Bali-16Aug2009.jpg

File:Seaweed_farming_-Nusa_Lembongan,_Bali-16Aug2009.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

     Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 15:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Bucorvus abyssinicus (female) -Fort Worth Zoo-8.jpg

Hello. The photo "Bucorvus abyssinicus (female) -Fort Worth Zoo-8.jpg" that you upload is under "all rights reservd" on flickr. If you not take it, please delete it. Benjli (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

• The Flickr photographer has changed the licence that he is distributing the image with on Flickr; however, Creative Commons licences are irrecoverable and so the previous Creative Commons licence is still applicable. This image is a permanent part of Commons now. Snowmanradio (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Alisterus_scapularis_-perching_on_a_man_with_binoculars-8.jpg

File:Alisterus_scapularis_-perching_on_a_man_with_binoculars-8.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Carl Lindberg (talk) 13:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC)