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Mass licensing files

Hey, you notified me of my mistake of leaving my files unlicensed when I mass-uploaded a lot of them with Commonist. I tried to ask you over at my own talk page but I think I might have messed up the ping tag or something so I shall try here as well. Since the files needing to be fixed are so numerous I was wondering if there's any good way to update their licensing and creator information in bulk since individually editing each file is beyond my reach. Thank you for your time, --Fenn-O-maniC (talk) 08:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Fenn-O-maniC: may I recommend VisualFileChange? You can do a mass find-replace on your own uploads this way. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 12:36, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Threshold of originality

Just wanted to check that this file (File:Map of Mauthausen and Gusen concentration camps.png) is ok for PD-ineligible. If not, it should be deleted. Thanks in advance. Buidhe (talk) 15:03, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe:, no, it definitely isn't. Self-drawn maps are copyrightable everywhere. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:49, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
But what about something like this one where there's nothing but coastline and locations marked? If the coastline isn't copyrightable, what are the copyrightable elements there? Buidhe (talk) 00:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
@Buidhe: the way the coastline is drawn involves creativity and is copyrightable. You can argue all you want but the law is quite clear. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:15, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I have do this photo. I’m owner of this stone. I don’t understand which is the problem Pikons85 (talk) 02:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Pikons85: when you uploaded the file, the website had an error and didn't post any information. Can you please provide a license? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
This stone is in my garden. I did with my phone. I can do a lot picture from different point view, but i’m not professional photographer and i dont know how i can do.. Pikons85 (talk) 02:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I you can suggest i will see how can do,, because i m ignorant about this trade Pikons85 (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I should register photo in some place ? Or write over picture my name? Pikons85 (talk) 02:57, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for my badly knowledge Pikons85 (talk) 02:58, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Pikons85: È necessario concedere una licenza. Vedi Commons:Licensing/it. Io raccomando {{Cc-by-sa 4.0}}. Indica semplicemente te stesso come autore e inseriscilo ({{Cc-by-sa 4.0}}) nella pagina del file per concedere la licenza. - Jmabel ! talk 05:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Pikons85 the file requires a license. Normally it asks for you when you first upload which license you choose, but since it broke, we need to ask you explicitly for one. Does {{Cc-by-4.0}} work for you? Please indicate that you have read and accepted that license if so. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:43, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

File:Victoria Bayona 03-19.jpg

Hi Magog!

I have already fixed the copyright issue. Regards, Wikimieuba — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 181.29.255.14 (talk) 15:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Fortino d Italia

I have do this picture in my garden. This stone is in my garden. I have do picture with my iPhone. I’m ignorant about this job. But if can help me, i can try do.. Pikons85 (talk) 02:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Pikons85: when you uploaded the file, the website had an error and didn't post any information. Can you please provide a license? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

File:Nestor Makhno and his Lieutenants, Berdyansk, 1919.jpg

Hi, You sent me a message about the file File:Nestor Makhno and his Lieutenants, Berdyansk, 1919.jpg. I added the intellectual property info. Please review and let me know if this is sufficient — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktadenev (talk • contribs) 03:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Ktadenev: possibly. Is the authorship truly unknown? Was it published around the time it was created, or long afterwards? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm unaware if the problem with the copyright status of File:JFK and Gonzalo Facio Segreda July 6, 1962 cropped.jpg is that you don't see this part:

--Dereck Camacho (talk) 04:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Dereck Camacho: every page requires a license. Your page has a source but not a license. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
What is the licence for cropped images? --Dereck Camacho (talk) 03:02, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Dereck Camacho: for pure crops, it would be the same as the original image. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:03, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
I see, thanks. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 06:19, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

భోగి మంట

My own work Ch Maheswara Raju (talk) 15:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

May I guess this was actually some sort of bot? Because there was a perfectly good PD notice, just obscured by a broken {{Information}} template. - Jmabel ! talk 02:11, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jmabel: unfortunately, no. We don't have a bot (we used to!), so someone must manually tag the pages. I try to go through each page and fix any obvious errors, but if it isn't obvious, I lack the time. Plus, uploaders really should know if they're uploading bad data so they don't do it in the future. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
All it was missing was closing tags on a template. The PD notice was there. - Jmabel ! talk 05:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jmabel: not my problem. I don't notice you helping out with this backlog. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Nope, just adding a few thousand photos of my own each year, plus a couple of hundred from the Seattle Municipal Archive, and adding categories to a several thousand archival photos and fixing literally hundreds of significant errors in their metadata (last year University of Washington Libraries made several hundred corrections in their metadata based on my research on their images that we had brought into Commons and I'd researched), and being one of the two or three main people who handle questions at the help desk and Village pump. You have a problem with that? - Jmabel ! talk 05:39, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jmabel: of course not. I do have a problem with you shooting the messenger for pointing out that your file violates policy. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:54, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
I guess it's just that when I run across equivalent, easily fixed things (in this case, missing closing brackets) in the course of my work, I usually just fix them. But, yes, I would rather be informed than have it just sit there, if those are the two alternatives. - Jmabel ! talk 23:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jmabel if I see an image is only missing a bracket, and the license is clear, I will fix it. But I don't always catch it, especially when I'm checking 200 images in a single sitting. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Old stuff

Hi!

I have been away and things changed. Do you think I need these pages?

Or should we just delete the stuff? If yes perhaps you can do so?

As I understand it the new black is User:MGA73/common.js :-) --MGA73 (talk) 18:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

@MGA73: the one will work only on vector layouts, the other only on monobook. You can delete the one you don't want. Some of the stuff appears to be out of date. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Okay thank you! --MGA73 (talk) 09:36, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Ogrebot Watercraft

I noticed that Ogrebot doesn't seem to have updated Watercraft since November 28. Is this intentional, or did the bot break down? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 00:35, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: it kept failing and no one was maintaining it, so I removed it. Sorry. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Well that's unfortunate, but these things happen. Thanks for the bot while it lasted. Gatoclass (talk) 22:38, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

File:JohnDerbyshire1.jpg

Hi Magog the Ogre. Just a quick question about this file. Wouldn't it be better to simply have the email verified by OTRS and indicate as such by {{OTRS received}} instead of copying and pasting the actual email into the file's description? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: yes it would. But this may be a {{Grandfathered old file}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:03, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
COM:GRANDFATHER is applicable to the pre-OTRS days (i.e. prior to 1 January 2007), isn't it? This file seems to have been first uploaded in 2012. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@Marchjuly: it was uploaded to English Wikipedia in late 2006. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:13, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Aha. Thanks for clarifying that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Čechy - znak.jpg

[1] Hello. Its ok now?--0kozel (talk) 15:38, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

@0kozel: no, in fact it still is missing a license ("This image shows... official insignia.... These restrictions are independent of the copyright status."). Please copy the license and author from the source page onto your page. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:24, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I think now is okay. --0kozel (talk) 18:44, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

The license of the image is completely free, the same description explains it, in addition there is also a link where it ensures that it can be used by everyone. if it is not the correct way to publish it. I would like to know how I could solve it so that it is better understood, I await your response --LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO (talk) 22:45, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO: the message on your talk page explains this. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@ Magog the Ogre:Here is the link on the page that says they comply with the copyright https://www.freepng.es/dmca.html I will continue publishing images from this page that allows me to download and publish each image with total freedom. I do all this in order to make some wikipedia pages look better--LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
"Derechos de autor© 2019. Freepng.es. Todos los derechos reservados." - how exactly is "allows me to download and publish each image with total freedom?" Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:43, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@ Magog the Ogre:means that the license is free to use--LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO (talk) 00:59, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO: no, it means the opposite, sadly. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:15, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
@ Magog the Ogre: entra al link de la pagina y te daras cuenta que no rompe los derechos de autor, los mismos autores los publican para que puedan descargarlos, no estamos violando ningun derecho, como dije no va a ser la unica imagen que publique a wikimedia --LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
@LIBRE CONOCIMIENTO: es gratis/libre solamente por el uso personal. Pero Commons sola acepta contenido que permite el uso comercial. Tenemos un ensayo que puedes leer aquí: Commons:Licencias. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Window over door 6 rue Charel Grenoble.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Window over door 6 rue Charel Grenoble.jpg. I notice that the file page either doesn't contain enough information about the license or it contains contradictory information about the license, so the copyright status is unclear.

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Note that any unsourced or improperly licensed files will be deleted one week after they have been marked as lacking proper information, as described in criteria for deletion. If you have uploaded other files, please confirm that you have provided the proper information for those files, too. If you have any questions about licenses please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or see our help pages. Thank you.

And also:

Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the warning. It was a first try with Commonist and I forgot to check that license information were added. --Pethrus (talk) 11:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

I would be grateful if you would explain what you mean by your comment on my talk page. The file is identified as being produced by the Ministry of Information (United Kingdom), and thus according to the specified reason is in the public domain.Leutha (talk) 12:33, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

@Leutha: Every day I deal with a few dozen files which are missing copyright notices. Originally the license on your page was incorrectly transcluded. I fixed it (link), but accidentally tagged the page a few minutes later. Sorry for any confusion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that, Leutha (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Your message on my talk page

I am perfectly familiar with your copyright policy. I do not generally upload copyvio to Commons and I actively PROD or localize any that I inadvertently upload. I have not repeatedly ignored directions from others and I resent your stating otherwise. I am a conscientious Wikimedia contributor and I do not appreciate your "final warning" ultimatum. Beleg Tâl (talk) 04:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@Beleg Tâl: OK. Apologies if I misread your talk page history. Nonetheless, while the most recent file you uploaded is public domain, it had a license tag which stated that the author died at least 71 years ago. That is neither true nor relevant to US law. Could you please take care to find and use the right copyright tag? Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:16, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for snapping at you last night. I hadn't yet gotten around to replacing the IA-Upload default values for File:Germany Must Perish!.djvu, and I am grateful to you for taking care of it. I have a lot of deletion notices on my talk page largely because I am heavily involved in the copyvio and deletion review processes on my own sister wiki. Do you have any recommendations for archiving the old notices so that I don't get well-meaning but misguided ultimatums from admins in future? Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
@Beleg Tâl: I totally understand. Actually I was short last night too and that's even less excusable since I am an administrator, so sorry. Anyway, you can just delete them, actually. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

It´s free ?

this File:Wish screenshot.png (ordinary images), File:ΜTorrent screenshot.png and File:National Hockey League shield.svg are allowed to be here on Wikimedia C?. --EEIM (talk) 04:43, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@EEIM: I would say no, probably not, and yes, respectively. Look and feel is copyrightable. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:01, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

I Am Fear Poster

I saw your comments about movie posters and the file I uploaded. This file is of substantially lower quality and would not be considered a copyright violation similarly to the movie poster uploaded for the movie Deadpool or available at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deadpool_(2016_poster).png ... Please let me know how to properly upload this file under the same premise as the Deadpool film poster.ScienceAdvisor (talk) 19:19, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@ScienceAdvisor: Commons has different license requirements than Wikipedia. They allow "fair use", but we do not. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status (Féval - Le Fils du diable)

Hello,

I've seen your edits on the files created from the book Le Fils du diable by Paul Féval.
The book has been published in the 19th century and is now in public domain but I'm not sure how I can indicate it is. Would the tags PD-old or PD-old-70 apply?
Yours sincerely,--Aziliz Breizh (talk) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@Aziliz Breizh: each file requires a copyright tag. Did you remove it from the original file by accident or intentionally (link)? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
@Magog the Ogre:Thanks for your answer. Actually I uploaded the book from Internet Archive (the author died in 1887, so the book's been in the public domain for years now) and then I just created the files using CropTool. I'm going to try and fix the problem. Thanks again!--Aziliz Breizh (talk) 15:43, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status of File:Ossino - Appunti di relatività.pdf

I apologyze for misunderstanding of copyright rules; I left a ping to you into talk page of User:Ruthven where I'm discussing the issue, but it's in Italian, please ask me for a translation if you need it. In the meantime I'm trying to fix my mistake. --Alex_brollo Talk|Contrib 06:19, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

cleanup TS error

I got this [2] just a moment ago on this file File:Herbjørn Gausta 01.jpg. Just a poke. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Puppets

Hello, Magog the Ogre.

Other accounts of Irisvalverde1: Haninha10 (talk · contribs) and Ella.Be10 (talk · contribs). Conde Edmond Dantès (talk) 20:59, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

¿He hecho bien?

@Magog the Ogre: Quisiera que usted me indicara si he hecho bien en subir estas imagenes, como tiene algunos elementos protegidos por derechos de autor coloqué la indicación De minimis , si estas imagenes están mal y todo está protegido por derechos de autor bórralas rápidamente por favor

About File:Genus-Homo3.jpg

Hello Magog the Ogre, I did, what I was able to do. I hope it's ok now. If not, I allow you to edit the description yourself or to propose concretly, what I have to do. Beat Ruest (talk) 12:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

@Beat Ruest: Can you explain where you found those images? Maybe I can fix it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I hope, I fixed it now. The source was File:Genus Homo.jpg. Sorry for the problems I made! Beat Ruest (talk) 15:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@Beat Ruest: No problem. Unfortunately, that file isn't source properly either. The non-human photographs are unsourced and likely copyrighted. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:32, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
I have requested a deletion; there is an other mistake in the photo. Beat Ruest (talk) 20:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Help with transferring file

Hi Magog. Can you please temporary restore en:File:Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Rosebery - 1890s.jpg (local) and transfer this file to Commons, deleting the local version thereafter? Thanks. AlbanGeller (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@AlbanGeller may I ask why? it's just a lower resolution version of File:Archibald-Philip-Primrose-5th-Earl-of-Rosebery (cropped).jpg, and it has no additional information on the page history. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
The one on Commons is retouched (by me), differing from the original (in terms of en:color grading). I'm not confident about my edits, so I would like to compare and contrast on other projects. AlbanGeller (talk) 02:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Magog, would this be OK? AlbanGeller (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
@AlbanGeller: if you really want the low resolution version that much, you can download it from the Internet Archive: [3]. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:58, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much!

I wasn’t even expecting that. Thanks :) Awesome Aasim 21:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Licencias

@Magog the Ogre: por favor dígame si he hecho bien en colocar las licencias FoP-Mexico y Not-free-US-FOP en esta imagen

y si he hecho bien en colocar las licencias FoP-Spain en esta imagen

@Magog the Ogre: También dígame si he hecho bien en subir y colocar las licencias en esta imagen la licencia de esta imagen es Fan art

también en esta imagen

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Шнірельман Лев Генріхович..jpg

You asked in talk page of the deleted file: "If this image is ever decided to be non-free, please place a request at w:WP:REFUND to undelete this item (w:File:Schnirelman.jpg) for fair use. Thanks." Taivo (talk) 11:57, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:15, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Creative Commons Confusion (Blackford Frontbench 2019.jpg)

This image was uploaded on Flickr last year by UK Parliament. Recently it has been flagged on here as non-free. The caption to the photograph states that it is released under CC-BY-3.0, but the tag says CC-BY-NC-2.0, which leaves me unsure as to whether it can be allowed. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 00:20, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Robin S. Taylor: I've tried to fix it up. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:19, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Bot Handling of Space Station

Happy Saturday!

I noticed two files recently categorized as "Obsolete Diagrams of International Space Station":

Triangular-Tegrahedral Space Station.jpg
Space Station Program Architecture (c. 1984).jpg

Neither are (or ever were) diagrams of the ISS.

The first is a patent application diagram showing a concept for module connection, made without regard to what eventual project might use it. It isn't relevant to ISS, or to any other thing that has ever existed, except insofar as it shows forks in the road that were encountered but never taken.

The second is also not relevant to ISS, having been generated long before ISS was a gleam in Goldin's eye. No version of the ISS program ever considered a lot of things that are on that chart.

Furthermore, neither of the two is "obsolete" in any sense. Both are "historical": not all "space station" things are related to ISS. More or less, anything generated prior to about 1993 has to be reviewed with great care before being associated directly with ISS per se (as obsolete or otherwise). Some things survived the transition (Freedom - Alpha - ISS Alpha - ISS), but many did not.

It is possible that I simply don't understand the intent of the category, so I didn't make any changes. But the bot might could use a bit of a tweak.

Aside: I find it embarrassing that I spelled "tetrahedral" wrong. I'll have to fix that one of these days...

Not fred999 (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Not fred999: You are misunderstanding the history. My bot doesn't do anything regarding categorization. It only reports what human editors do. If you don't like the category, you should take it up with the person who added it, who is User:Ras67.[4] You are the person who added Category:International Space Station originally. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:43, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

You blocked me from editing a tempalte that I was alone to maintain

Why did you block me from editing Module:Dir/RTL overrides ? I was the creator and only maintainer of that module !

I did not make inconsistant changes recently, but went to maintain newer codes that were added and used. I documented as well the testcases module that helps maintaining it.

You just added another single code "non", and blocked it immediately but that list is still not complete, and I wanted to add newer codes that are being added in Mediawiki (at least "nrf-gg" and "nrf-je", there are others pending).

There was no attack on this module and blocking it for admins only is unfair. This looks just like a personal initiative you took immediately without reason just after your own single edit (which was not strictly necessary but only useful to avoid costly parser calls before using a fallback to ltr which was still correct, and would have happened on a rarely used language code; I jsut recommanded to make this list complete including for LTR languages to save some costly parser calls; and note that the Lua code for these lists can be generated by the test module).

You also blocked unfairly Module:Multilingual description/sort (that I also created and maintained correctly), when you just added incorrectly "fi" instead of "fil", and added "non".

Both modules are maintained in sync, they are both tested in the documented testcases page that shows the results (I have extended the tests performed in the last days for some tricky cases).

Do you really think I made something wrong and harmful to these two modules that justifies you to block them when you are making errors by yourself when editing it selfishly without even contacting me ?

verdy_p (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

@Verdy p: whoa, slow down. I had no idea you were the primary maintainer. I locked the page because it is in high use, which is standard procedure. It had nothing to do with you, personally. I have now provided you with the template editor permission, so you can edit. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

About File:Tomb of Bedit.jpg

Hi, On Wikipedia the file was tagged PD-OLD-100. Is that not a valid tag? Thanks, Kalbbes (talk) 01:34, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Is there a reason you're splitting this discussion into two places? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:35, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
No, just that I've never had this happen before so I didn't know what to do. I apologize. (You do have a scary name, I was flustered.) Kalbbes (talk) 01:42, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
@Kalbbes: sorry. I was a bit grumpy(ier than normal) last night. I responded on the DR if that helps. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:05, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I know you are a good guy and am thankful for your help. And I should know about the copyright tags. My fault! Kalbbes (talk) 13:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Another violation

Identical situation:


--JN95 (talk) 10:34, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Copy to Commons issue

Hello Magog, I guess this is my first import from enwp File:Jerry Springer The Opera - Playhouse on the Square.jpg with OTRS permissions, I had trouble fixing the OTRS template. The one that was posted at enwp was en:Template:OTRS permission, the trouble I was having is what template to use here ? Maybe you can school me :P On a side note, can your cleanup scripts add the correct template automatically ? - FlightTime (open channel) 20:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

@FlightTime: yes I could add that to my script. I'm not sure how often it would catch that, though. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thanx. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:52, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Roberto Accornero

Good morning from Calabria, I put the license you said. Now how can we prevent the photo from being deleted? Mr. Accornero gave me the photo to put it on his biography, can something possibly be done to avoid a ruin? Looking forward to hearing from you, I wish you a happy weekend. with regard--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 02:52, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino: it looks like someone noticed that the file is missing proof of permission. For legal reasons, we need the photographer to formally agree to the rights. Can you follow the instructions at Commons:Modello richiesta di permesso? Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

How

How did you leave a message on User talk:Test919,733,084 but now it's gone? It's in search results but not on page Special:Search/"14:56, 17 November 2019" fires.--BevinKacon (talk) 20:39, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

@BevinKacon: Looks like a bug of some sort. The diff shows up in my contribution history: [5]. Try asking at VPT. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

"Ban"

It would probably be wise for the entire conversation if you struck that part of your message on Alexis's talk page. I can see why you did it, they really weren't using their talk page to properly appeal their block as they should have but saying they are "banned" is not really within any Commons's policy. They can always appeal via email if they wish. They are not technically banned by any Wikimedia definition of the term that I know of. For the sake of calming tensions, no matter how small perhaps you should restate your notice. --Majora (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Notice

See COM:ANU#Magog the Ogre. 1989 (talk) 00:08, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz

Did WMF Trust and Safety notify the issue? I think this issue need T&S investigation.--GZWDer (talk) 15:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Please open the discussion

Hello. I respectfully ask you to open Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Block_review:_Alexis_Jazz and refrain from closing it again before it becomes stale or stable. The well-thought-out proposal by User:AFBorchert was specifically the kind of discussion we need here on Commons. Please also unprotect User talk:Alexis Jazz because I cannot see why it has been protected. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 06:37, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Magog the Ogre, I would like to second that. As you are well aware, Commons is a consensus-driven project and we should find some consensus how we continue with this case. Any unilateral closure which is enforced by edit-warring ([6], [7]) in combination with admins who block each other is not likely to help us here. You are writing: Users will not threaten me and my fellow administrators with violence and be allowed to edit on here. It is easily possible that I have overlooked something or that there is more info to this on the CU side. Please elaborate and we will take that into account. But please do not suppress our consensus-building processes. Thank you & kind regards, AFBorchert (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi Magog, I know how frustrating it can be when you feel that a user severely threatens you. I can know, because the user who made a threat at my life is still walking around at the projects and fellow admins even blatantly denied that an obvious death threat is a dead threat. Now you know that I do understand how frustrated and powerless such a situation can make you feel. Also, I'm not challenging AJ's block. If the entire CU team decided that a block is required it isn't my place to plea for an unblock. This said, as administrators we cannot let our emotions get in the way and start acting against policy or act as an autocrat. This isn't what the community expect from administrators, all the community members want is that you talk with them. If you feel uncomfortable in doing so, perhaps one of the other CU's could speak on your behalve. Please show us the Magog we all know so I can withdraw my statement that I would support your desysop. Natuur12 (talk) 09:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
I too ask that you reconsider your close, I've said from the outset I disagree with it and I still do however irrespective of that these discussions need to continue, It's very unhealthy and toxic to close a discussion such as this right now, Given it was a CU-team block I don't expect the block to be lifted howevre other CU members may disagree with the block or it's length and so discussion is vital and so is consensus,
Alls I ask is that for the sake of this project you reopen it and either allow it to die down or allow someone (CU team) to close it at a later date, I can't force you and I'm certainly not going to reopen it myself because that'd be dumb but irrespective of everyones emotions that discussion needs to be reopened. Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 09:26, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Are there diffs for his alleged death threats against administrators? Vermont (talk) 22:02, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello again. You stated at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Magog_the_Ogre, "This user has threatened physical violence and continues to do so against me and fellow admins." As well as, "If you wish to take away my sysop bit for zealously enforcing the "don't threaten to kill administrators" policy, I'll take that fall." I have attempted to find diffs or other forms of evidence for these threats against administrators. Are you able to produce these? Regards, Vermont (talk) 19:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
If the instances of Alexis's death threats are off-wiki, please communicate with me over email if you are comfortable doing so. If there is no evidence, you have used fabricated death threats as justification for removing talk page access, which is an extreme abuse of tools and of community trust. Regards, Vermont (talk) 19:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Update: The discussion was reopened on 27 March and we are currently discussing if we are ready to close it in consensus: COM:AN#Closure?. Your comments are welcome. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 17:56, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

OgreBot offline?

Hey, it looks like you have other business to attend here, but I just wanted to notify that OgreBot (talk · contribs) looks offline. I patrol aviationRU everyday (which is so very much useful, thank you for that), and it haven't been updated for the last two days, just as other daily galleries. Is there anything you could do? Many thanks, Gyrostat (talk) 12:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The same here... Last update on my gallery page was the 25 March 2020. --Clic (talk) 07:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

COM:AN/P#User talk:Alexis Jazz

Hi Magog the Ogre, I hope you are well. You protected the talk page of Alexis Jazz in addition to removing his talk page access. This appears redundant. As it is standard practice to keep the talk page of indef'd users open for deletion requests etc., I've opened this discussion. Your comments are welcome. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 10:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

The user talk page has now been unprotected after this discussion. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 17:51, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

thanks

thanks
thanks for contribute Alrs121200 (talk) 10:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Obsolete templates?

You unblocked user:Фред-Продавец звёзд but his talk page still contains templates stating that he is blocked. Can you please synchronize the data? -- Wesha (talk) 22:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

No news of OgreBot

Hello Magog the Ogre,

My Echinoderm News did not feed this week, despite a massive upload. What happened ?

Thanks and all the best,

FredD (talk) 08:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

OgreBot ist not working

Dear "Magog the Ogre", for some time now I have been using the Commons:WikiProject_Aviation/recent_uploads page every week.

Thank you for your OgreBot.

Unfortunately, since March 26, 2020, OgreBot has not provided any new upload hits. Could you see what's going on?

Thanks a lot.

Best regards --Michael (talk) 18:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

So this image should not be categorized?

File:Chagall Todesnachricht.1985.J.Gerner.jpg per rule about not publishing Works by this artist created after 1917 that are not in the public domain in Europe. I can't evaluate this myself. Thanks, Kalbbes (talk) 15:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Kalbbes: Hi! Magog is not around atm so I will try to answer. Of course it is good to categorize this photo and all other photos. The problem is however that the photo may be a copyvio and needs to be deleted. It is much easier to find such problems when the files are categorized properly. I will start a DR for this photo so we can find out what to do with the photo. --MGA73 (talk) 09:05, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
@MGA73: Thanks for taking care of that! Kalbbes (talk) 19:35, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Ogrebot status

Has Ogre bot stopped working? I have not seen any new updated gallery since March 25. Any ideas when it will be working again? Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 11:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Same observation here (User:Rsteen/Artists_from_Denmark/2020_March_21-31). Maybe the load on the servers should compel the powers that be to grant more running time to the bots before they are timed out? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 07:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
It seems Magog the Ogre has been inactive since March 27. Could the bot runs have been stopped on purpose? Maybe this is not a server overload problem after all? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 16:36, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
It could certainly be the case. Let's hope Magog the Ogre is ok and will return to activity soon. It would be a pity for this great feature to stop though I thought the bot ran on its own. Ww2censor (talk) 16:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
See also COM:HD#Seeking for new uploads by category.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Ww2censor. As you have also been in direct contact with Magog, maybe we could work together on this. Magog says that as he was blocked, he also had to take down the bot. Thing is, he was only blocked for three minutes, so now there is nothing keeping him from reactivating the bot - except perhaps ill feelings toward the Commons community. Maybe it would be a good idea if you helped to lay some gentle pressure on him, because the community - as far as I know - has no ill feelings towards him, and we really miss the bot. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 06:55, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
+1 -- sk (talk) 04:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
+1 --Derbrauni (talk) 07:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
The bot is working again. Thanks @Magog the Ogre ! --Clic (talk) 06:10, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
+1 --Rsteen (talk) 06:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Magog! The logs page is not working. I can't known which subcategory is the reason of this trouble.--Paris 16 (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Begoniaceae news

Hi Magog the Ogre, can you help me to update a page User:Salix/Begoniaceae news, listing all new files in Category:Begoniaceae, the same way as this one : User:FredD/Echinoderm news ? I do not know how to edit the page User:OgreBot/gallery with something like "* Category:Begoniaceae | User:Salix/Begoniaceae news | 240x240 DAYS_PER_GALLERY(16)" --Salix (talk) 10:39, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

@Salix: it's been up for a while but apparently we're not getting new files. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I will upload one to make sure. --Salix (talk) 16:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi Magog. It doesn't seems to work. What's going wrong ? --Salix (talk) 20:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
It works ! Cool ! Thanks ! --Salix (talk) 13:11, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Yours sincerely, Rschen7754 00:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

OgreBot source?

Hi Magog. I know you're away, but if you'd be willing to provide (or if you've published and I didn't notice) OgreBot's source, it'd be appreciated. Its functions are quite useful, and it'd be silly to start from scratch. Best, Mdaniels5757 (talk) 19:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC) P.S. I hope you come back. :)

(talk page stalker) Mdaniels5757: I've been in touch with Magog and I don't think I am violating his private communication with me but he may consider restarting OgreBot, so let's hold on a bit. Otherwise he might share the source code. Ww2censor (talk) 17:19, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
OK. I actually already found it and have started trying to make it work, we'll see. I'll hold off on launching anything. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
@Mdaniels5757: I've restored the webservice. I will be around to maintain the bot until I have a chance to provide you access. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Ogrebot not acknowledging "nobots" tag

How did this happen, despite my having added the {{Nobots}} specifically to prevent exactly this sort of thing? What can be done to stop it? -- 14:37, 6 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infrogmation (talk • contribs)

@Infrogmation: Fixed. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 05:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

One of your warnings

A user to whom you gave a prior warning has continued to upload images and when asked to provide source, sent this https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Vandalism&diff=417800216&oldid=417799358 instead. The user seems to be ignoring your edit at 23:40, 26 December 2018 (UTC). Just thought you might like to know. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:23, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Call for discussion

I pinged you six weeks or so ago. I was very surprised to see an indefinite block - undeserved IMO. I am glad to see it was rescinded.

Anyhow, it may have distracted you.

The point I made @ Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Elizabeth_Holmes_2016.jpeg was that the uploader was the executive at Holmes' firm who had the authority to release images that were owned by the firm. I suggested it would be carrying PCP too far to demand the (former?) director of public relations confirm that the image was properly licensed. I'd like to see that discussion closed. Would you please return there, and respond to my last point? Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 22:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

please exclude the following subcategory:

and

Thank you. And thank you very much for this tool. It helps a lot! (and brings joy -<-@) --Anika (talk) 11:36, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

User:OgreBot/Notable uploads

June 12 report is missing. Please take a look. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@EugeneZelenko: There is a long-standing API bug with workarounds but it involves significant code changes on my end. I will work on a permanent solution but it may take a bit. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:51, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
18th of June is also missing. I tried https://tools.wmflabs.org/magog/update-report.php?type=uploads&start=20200612 and https://tools.wmflabs.org/magog/update-report.php?type=uploads&start=20200618 but got an error message. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:39, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Strange edit of OgreBot 2

Hi Magog , i wondered about this edit. I found it several times when repairing broken {{Information}} templates. This change is a little bit destructive since it may overwrite previous author parameters. --Arnd (talk) 05:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

The edit is to add an author parameter to Information templates which lack one. The page had a hidden control character that also confused Wikimedia's parsing software. It's very hard to control for such a scenario. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

presidential vote map

Hi, can you tell me where you got the voting data for File:2016 Nationwide US presidential county map shaded by vote share.svg? A downloadable CSV or something like that would be fantastic. Thanks. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:C4FC 20:33, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

nm, found https://electionlab.mit.edu/data 2602:24a:de47:bb20:50de:f402:42a6:a17d 22:46, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

fileinfo.php

Hi! When I create an upload log like here the tool suggest {{PD-user-en|Laurijs}}. I think it should suggest "PD-user-lv" or something. Anything you can fix? --MGA73 (talk) 18:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Now that I'm here oldver.php keeps saying I have not authorized the tool. But at Special:OAuthManageMyGrants it says that "Allowed on project: meta.wikimedia.org". If I'm supposed to allow it on Commons then how do I do that? --MGA73 (talk) 22:39, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
They changed the site URL and it broke the cookie mechanism. I've fixed it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:08, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks a million! I really like that tool!
Another thing. There are about 1500 files moved from ja.wiki to Commons and the information may not be transferred very good. I wonder if you could fix something that could do a mass fix of the file description on Commons. The files is a part of a serie of files so they should be build up the same way on ja.wiki. Example of a file:
You once fixed the files I moved from old wikitravel so I know you can do wonders :-) --MGA73 (talk) 08:09, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

uploads by new users

Hi,

Just out of curiosity... I see that your bot keeps adding uploads by my bot (Eiabot) to the overview of uploads of new users. What is the threshold you're using? :P I think you must have added over a thousand images by my bot, by now haha. Effeietsanders (talk) 02:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

@Effeietsanders: 150 edits, which doesn't include reuploads. You can add it to the blacklist: User:OgreBot/gallery-opt-out. But honestly you should probably go through the bot approval process so it has the bot flag. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm actually not sure if it should have a bot flag: it may be desirable that people can watch an image and see if it has been updated. I'm on the fence about it. Effeietsanders (talk) 23:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Imagens

Minha imagem foi postada nesta página sem miha autorização. Que devo fazer? Benfybelmont (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Benfybelmont ✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:32, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

OgreBot Status

Hi Magog the Ogre. It seems that the daily updates have been "on vacation" for about a week. Is this a general or a lasting phenomenon? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 12:12, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Rsteen just temporarily broken. Sometimes needs quick fixes, sometimes long ones. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 22:33, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

oldver.php - upload log

Hi! Sometimes I want to upload old versions but sometimes I only want to add an upload log. It seem you can only make an upload log if you also upload old versions of the files. Perhaps you could make a change so it is possible to create an upload log without transferring a file? --MGA73 (talk) 17:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

About File:Asia Minor ca 740 AD-es.svg

Hello, sir, seems like these two images (File:Anatolia ca 740 AD-es.svg & File:Asia Minor ca 740 AD-es.svg) are so similiar except captions of images and colors of roads. I just want to know whether they are the same one and could I make a redirection with one of them? -- Vikarna 16:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:11, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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