User talk:Magnus Manske/Archive 4
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Typo im CommonsHelper
Hallo Magnus, beim CommonsHelper hat sich ein [r] verabschiedet: Transferred from en.wikipedia; transfer[r]ed to Commons by ...
Gruß, --Aconcagua (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Danke, erledigt! --Magnus Manske (talk) 08:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
CommonsHelper request
Magnus, an older version of the Information template at en Wikipedia included a "location" parameter that we don't use here. In cases where this is used, would it be possible for the bot to grab that information and include it in the "description" field so it's not lost? Kelly (talk) 15:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
- Also (this is minor) the bot is not including a line break in the "author" field between the original text and the "original uploader was..." information. Kelly (talk) 15:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
hi i was wondering if i could use your piscture of static at the playground for an irish science text book im writing. it will be an educational publication for students studying for a state exam. thanx seamus sobric@hotmail.com
Commons helper
Hi, Magus, I have a problem with your Move-to-commons assistant tool. While I transferred more than 100 images with it, suddenly it does not accept my doing so and shows like this. "Your TUSC verification was not successful. Aborting." I've used the same password for the task, so I don't understand the warning message. How do I fix the problem and access the tool again? Thanks. --Caspian blue (talk) 12:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I think there is something funny with the toolserver. Wait a while and try again. You can also go here, enter your TUSC name/password (commons only) and get some more detailed message that can help me figure out what's wrong, if it is an error in TUSC. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I erased all my caches stored in my browser (fireworks) and restarted my computer, but nothing shown on the TUSC site except "TUSC verification : User validated. 1"--Caspian blue (talk) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, now working. I think the problem was temporary (for almost 2 hours though), but sometimes similar bugs occurred to me several times while I was uploading, but after refreshing the page, those problems were quickly gone. In this case, the problem lasted a bit more. I think you would better check codings to prevent similar problems in the future.--Caspian blue (talk) 14:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I erased all my caches stored in my browser (fireworks) and restarted my computer, but nothing shown on the TUSC site except "TUSC verification : User validated. 1"--Caspian blue (talk) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
File Upload Bot (Magnus_Manske)
Hello, would it be possible, to add the interwiki link of the wp, where the picture is taken from? Or might be inserted automatically from the usage-script. Would help a lot, if pictures have to be recategoried, if some information about it were available. Thanks, --Ebcdic (talk) 20:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Heuristic issues
I'm running across an awful lot of categories where images are NOT supposed to ever land, would it be possible to give you an exceptions list of commons categories that your Bot could skip? And maybe a "default to this instead table?" I should note your Bot isn't in very good odor with the Admins and regulars here for the shotgun effects of it's attempt to classify images. Would recommend fewer autogenerated categories in general, and perhaps the rest of a list in an embedded comment. Is your tool accessing the various en.Wikipedia commonscat, commoncats, templates and trying to pick off exact matches from an en.wikipedia category? A lot of categories are tagged directly with {{{1}}} or {{{2}}} with defaults to {{PAGENAME}} for exact matches. Building a composite links here list from those (or better yet perhaps, embedding a hidden combining category, so if other templates are used same can be updated to immediate effect) you can check against. I can get you the list of interwiki templates easily, or install a category. Say the word. Best regards, and nice to meetchya! //FrankB 18:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
- My bot is using categories generated by the CommonSense tool. It might be more fruitful to do the filtering there. --Magnus Manske (talk) 14:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Image:Norbertleobutz123.jpg
I believe you moved Image:Norbertleobutz123.jpg in error from en.Wikipedia as it is missing the needed source information making the public domain license invalid. Please consider moving it back to en.Wikipedia where the image can be properly addressed and most likely deleted as per other uploads by the same user for the same problem of no source information. See additional information on the image discussion page. Thank you Dbiel (talk) 04:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
- I do not think I moveed the image. More likely, someone else moved it using my bot. --Magnus Manske (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Quick Question about CommonsHelper
Just a question of "how things work". If a user has created a TUSC account, and then is blocked on Commons - will they still be able to use CommonsHelper? I realize that non-direct file uploads won't work - but what about direct file uploads under the bots username? Thanks. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 21:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- I check if the user is blocked on Commons, and prevent upload. However, I've never tried if it actually works. If you see a case, please tell me! --Magnus Manske (talk) 21:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Cool. Well I just tested on my bot. When I tried to do a direct upload from a blocked account it did say "TSUC Failed" or something similar. Thank you very much. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 21:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Lost TUSC password
Hi Magnus - I seem to have lost my TUSC password. Is there any way that I can get this emailed to me or reset? Thanks! --Rlandmann (talk) 08:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- I nuked the entry, so you can resubscribe. --Magnus Manske (talk) 21:39, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hi Magnus, I was wondering if you'd ever considered adding Agência Brasil images (CC) to your excellent FIST tool, seems like a good idea to me. Cheers, Jacoplane (talk) 19:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- One more idea if you're bored :) You might consider creating a RSS feed for flickrfree, so people can add it as a livebookmark in firefox or another RSS reader. Cheers, Jacoplane (talk) 20:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Finally, you might include a US government image search, although you shouldn't allow 1-click uploads, since not all images on those servers are public domain. It might be better to use the image search engines of the particular websites; for example, here are the images for the Department of Defense, which are all PD: http://dodimagery.afis.osd.mil/index.html. Jacoplane (talk) 23:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! The Brasilians are in, but the USGov image search is weird to run. I'll try to parse the google search later; and then generate the RSS feed :-) --Magnus Manske (talk) 20:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome :) I just tried the Agencia Brazil, and there seem to be a few issues with images not showing up precisely, see for example [1]. I like what you did with automatically generating the information template. Cheers, Jacoplane (talk) 18:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- Should be fixed now. --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome Magnus, it works perfect! You think you'll enable one-click TUSC upload from Agência Brasil? Jacoplane (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Should be fixed now. --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Awesome :) I just tried the Agencia Brazil, and there seem to be a few issues with images not showing up precisely, see for example [1]. I like what you did with automatically generating the information template. Cheers, Jacoplane (talk) 18:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Lost TUSC Password, me too
Hi,
I forgot my TUSC password, too. Can you please make some automated way of retrieving it?
My username: Amire80.
Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 17:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- You can now go to TUSC and set a new password by going through the procedure again. --Magnus Manske (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Bug
Magnus, there is still a problem when images with the {{Self2}} template at en Wikipedia are transferred here. The author information is still not being included in the {{Self}} template here. Kelly (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Could you point me to an example image on en.wikipedia that isn't uploaded on Commons yet? I couldn't find a self2 one that used author= --Magnus Manske (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
TUSC Statistik?
Hallo Magnus,
Ich benütze für mein Cropbot TUSC. Nähme mich noch wunder wie viele Benutzer du da angemeldet hast und wie viele tools das verwenden? Oder läuft das unter Datenschutz :-P
PS: Ich würde ein GET request für die Abfrage gar nicht zulassen, wäre schade wenn ein Benutzer schaden wegen dem nicht-begreifen eines Tool-Autors davontragen würde...--Luxo (talk) 15:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Es gibt 1074 Benutzereinträge in meiner Datenbank, davon 920 unterschiedliche Benutzernamen (der Rest hat sich offenbar für mehrere Projekte angemeldet). Von den 1074 sind 723 validiert, also funktionsfähig. Wie viele tools TUSC benutzen, weiss ich nicht - Deins ist das erste, von dem ich weiss (das nicht von mir selbst stammt). Das mit dem GET-Request ist an sich nur "gefährlich", wenn der toolserver-root böse (TM) ist, und das glaube ich nicht... (oder ich will meinen account behalten;-) --Magnus Manske (talk) 16:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ok danke viel mal :)--Luxo (talk) 20:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Uncat
Hi Magnus, please change {{uncat}} to {{subst:Unc}} in commonshelper. This will place the pictures in the right category. Thank you, Multichill (talk) 21:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Done. --Magnus Manske (talk) 18:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
CommonsHelper update
it.wiki copyright tag: {{GFDL-con-disclaimer}} {{GFDL-Utente-con-disclaimer}} |
copyright tag here on Commons {{GFDL-it}} {{self|author=UPLOADER USER NAME ON IT.WIKI***|GFDL-it}} |
*** I suppose that this should credit the original uploader, if there are several versions. Thank you for your patience.--Trixt (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Links to wikipedia'sHi Magnus, i dont know if i already asked this in the past. At the moment commonshelper converts links like [[<text>]] to [[:<lang>:<text>]] and [[<linktext>|<text>]] to [[:<lang>:<linktext>|<text>]]. Could you change this behaviour so that [[<text>]] gets converted to [[:<lang>:<text>|<text>]]? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 11:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC) Original upload logI see your bot uploaded Image:Unix-history.svg. I know, it has been requested by someone else, but i suppose the content is filled by the bot? Why does Image:Unix-history.svg#Original_upload_log only have an item, if en:Image:Unix-history.svg#filehistory has five entries? (one of them from a different author) Should I file it on Jira? Platonides (talk) 16:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Did you change commonshelper?Hi Magnus, did you change Commonshelper? My upload stopped functioning. Url's like [2] stopped functioning and just give a timeout. Multichill (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
AV Hill imageI noticed that you copied the AV Hill image[3] from the English Wikipedia to Commons [4]. While I'm confident this image is in the public domain in the United States, it's not clear that this image is in the public domain in its country of origin (probably UK or Sweden, I'm not sure which). Do you have some additional imformation about this image's copyright status? If not, it should probably be removed from Commons. To use the image in the [5] article, the image should probably be simply copied to the Deutsch Wikipedia. Noca2plus (talk) 22:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC) File Upload Bot - language templatesPlease note the fix I just made here - [6]. I believe I've noticed the same problem (description text not showing because it has an = or ? in it) on some other uploads also. It would probably be best to have the bot use the "1=" whenever it adds language templates. --dave pape (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Image:Dwight Johns.gifPlease delete this image from commons. What part of "Please delete this image from commons" don't you understand? 124.176.51.76 23:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC) You mean, why I don't just obey your commands, oh master? Well, for starters, who are you, and why do you think it should be deleted? And why do you bother me with that? You did read the giant red-bordered box at the beginning of this page, right? --Magnus Manske (talk) 18:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC) List of bot-uploaded Geograph.org.uk images?Hello Magnus. Would it be possible to extract a list of files uploaded using your bot which either contained a link to http://geograph.org.uk or used the {{Geograph}} template or even, if it's easier, just contained "[Gg]eograph" somewhere in the image description? It seems that the bot doesn't make a good job of tagging these, so I would like to go through the uploads and fix them. There are only a few hundred geograph images left on enwiki, so I don't think it's worth thinking about changing anything to handle these better. Thanks, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Administrative noticeDear Magnus Manske/Archive 4. I am writing to you to inform you that because of inactivity, you may lose your adminship on Commons. Commons has a new policy on admin activity, Commons:Administrators/De-adminship, taken into use on June 13, 2007 (after a two-week poll on the proposed policy's talk page). If you want to keep your adminship, you have to sign at Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section within 30 days. Note that if you don't make 5 admin actions in the following 5 months, you will then lose the adminship anyways. Thank you,
Frei-BildHello Magnus, can you help me in transferring two images from de-WP to Commons (both Frei-Bild) as the CommonsHelper does refuse: Helmstedt Kurpark.jpg and Helmstedt Bär.jpg. Thanks--Gerardus (talk) 07:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Mirror for FlickrHello Magnus. I request you for a little help, if you are interesting by that. Currently Flick access to image is restrected to me (at my work, i dont have web at my house). Restrected cause nudity, every body know Flick is a database of nudity image... Are you interested to create a tool that can download and display Flick images on toolserver (something like a mirror) ? (for example the tool can take a parametter like http://flickr.com/photos/thechronliar/2668945047/in/set-72157606169602032/) Its maybe not very hard to do. Are you interested by that? Or do you already have something like that? If your tool to move image from Flickr→Commons can display a preview, it the same for me. Thanks a lot anyway. ~ bayo or talk 07:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
First upload entry got lostHi Magnus, i transfered nl:Afbeelding:Afbeelding 293.jpg to Image:Gebouw van Eindhoven Airport.jpg, but the first upload entry got lost somehow. Could you have a look at it? What's going wrong? Multichill (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Fixed now. --Magnus Manske (talk) 09:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Kannst du bitte deinem Bot bei bringen, Category:Hidden categories bei Bildern die ihm übergeben werden zu entfernen? Wie diese Kategorie jeweils mit kommt ist mir ein Rätsel, aber Sinnvoll ist es meiner Meinung nach nicht. Da dein Bot mir ein paar mal schon aufgefallen ist (könnte alleine schon an seinem Dateienumsatz liegen) bitte ich dich darum der Software beizubringen die Kategorie zu entfernen. -- MichaelFrey (talk) 21:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, dein Bot schiebt gerne Bilder von Gebaeuden in die Category:Architecture. Wie Du der Erklaerung Commons:CommonsProject_Architecture#How_to_classify_a_photo_of_a_building entnehmen kannst ist das nicht richtig, sie gehoeren in Category:Buildings und natuerlich am besten gleich in die richtigen untercats. Kann dein Bot das lernen? Danke. TomAlt (talk) 16:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Problem with accents with CommonsHelperHello Magnus, I'm coming here about the tool CommonsHelper. There's a few bug requests about it, but it looks like you don't have too much time to deal with them... which is understable. There is one however which makes the whole transfer process really tedious for French-speaking people : Commonshelper tranforms accentuated letters in the description. For instance, "é" becomes "é", and so on for all the accents. It is a pain because in French we use a lot of "é", "è", "à" etc. and after each transfer I have to spend time correcting all of them in the description. If CommonsHelper cannot be fixed about this, maybe your bot can be teweaked the following way : after a successful transfer, it will edit the description and transform all "é" back into "é". Most of the letter combination are like this one, really really unusual, so I think it should be fine to do an automatic correction. If it is feasible, I can provide the list of replacements to be done. Thank you for considering this issue ! le Korrigan →bla 18:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC) (note : you can have examples of this behaviour in most images of Category:Files moved from fr.wikipedia to Commons requiring review) File Upload Bot and cyrillic alphabetIt - is normal?!! NBS (talk) 04:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
CommonsHelperHello Magnus Manske, I have a problem in transferring an image from he.wikipedia to Commons. The Licence is (as far as I can see):PD. Image:Jacob epstain the visitation 1926.jpg Can you help me please.--Gerardus (talk) 18:24, 9 October 2008 (UTC) And what about image:Nussbaum-Briefmarke.jpg on de.wikipedia (Public-Domain-Bild (Amtliches Werk)??--Gerardus (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Hallo Magnus, wir haben jetzt innerhalb kürzster Zeit im Forum die Diskussion, was man mit Bildern macht die auf Flickr wohl mal CC waren und jetzt nicht mehr als solche ausgewiesen werden. Können wir da irgendwas an unserer Beweissicherung verbessern, um Rechtssicherheit auch für Nachnutzer zu erhöhen? Ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass man Großteile der FLickr-Seite unmodifiziert wegspeichert. archive.org speichert die Flickr Seiten wohl leider auch nicht. Vielleicht hast du ja eine Idee. --Kolossos (talk) 08:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
PD-selfMan sollte ja hier nichts zum FUP dazu schreiben, aber ich mache es jetzt trozdem: Beim File Uploade Bot wird PD-Self nicht in PD-User-wpxxx umgewandelt sondern es bleibt beim PD-self.--Sanandros (talk) 19:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Bot ideaI had an idea for a Flickr bot that I thought you might be able to code, if you had time. I find occasionally that manually reviewed Flickr images aren't the largest size available on Flickr. What if we had something like RotateBot, where if I find that Flickr has a larger size image (and it's the same -- i.e., hasn't been cropped or anything), then I could tag the Commons image and the bot would come around occasionally to the category and grab the largest versions. I know FlickreviewR does that on images that it reviews, but we have no process for manual images except doing it ourselves. Anyway, it's just a thought. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 21:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Commons Helper Full resolutionHello Magnus and thank you, It took me some time to realize that I'd moved preview-sized images from Wikipedia to the Commons. Can you add a warning to the text of the Helper to move the full resolution images? – Friedlibend 12:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Hi Magnus, I would like to hear your opinon about this suggestion. Thanks, --Flominator (talk) 08:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Commons Helper - problems with license transfer from de wiki to CommonsCommons Helper changes the german de:Vorlage:Bild-PD-US to the Commons license Template:PD-US but the correct license here at Commons would be Template:PD-USGov. --Denniss (talk) 14:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC) TUSC accountHi Magnus! My TUSC account didn't work. I verified it on English; it didn't work. I don't know if I typed in the wrong password or what. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
BaaaD-Ooould-Ones ;)Hallo Magnus, keine Ahnung ob Umbenennung für derlei zumutbar ist, aber da das Tool, soweit ich kapiere, alle-alle-alle Dateien einer Kategorie ausspuckt, demgemäß auch die "anständig beschrifteten", hielte ich es für passender einen Namen wie "Check=ALL", "CheckAll" "CheckFilesInCategoriy" o.ä. zu vergeben. UND: In der Beschreibung darauf hinzuweisen, dass der Nutzer des Tools damit dem Server u.U. einiges antut ;) -- Im Sinn positiven Denkens [auch wenn dies mitunter zuviel verlangt wäre ;] -- dass ich Dich für das Tool knuuuuhutschen könnte, erwähne ich nebenbei: s. Category_talk:Vincent_van_Gogh#Priority_list, Punkt ALMOST-DONE: Second: -- Lieben Gruß, --Wolfgang H.W. (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC) Bug: Reverse author’s order (File Upload Bot)Ich schreib mal auf Deutsch: w:de:Bild:Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 1.JPG wurde 2006 von Chiemseemann hochgeladen und 2008 von RoB aktualisiert. Auf Commons steht Original uploader was RoB at de.wikipedia Later version(s) were uploaded by ChiemseeMan at de.wikipedia. Ungünstig. --32X (talk) 21:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Nochmal: Gestern hochgeladen, die älteste (und somit erste) wurde im Datumsfeld als last version, die jüngere als first version angegeben. --32X (talk) 18:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC) CommonsHelper und SonderzeichenHallo Magnus, ich bin gerade verwundert, dass dein genialer Tool "CommonsHelper" nicht mit Sonderzeichen arbeiten kann. Ich habe festgestellt, dass Bilder die z.B. aus der französischen Wikipedia importiert werden und Sonderzeichen haben, alle nur noch kryptisch dargestellt werden. Ehrlich gesagt, kann ich mir nicht vorstellen, dass du die deutschen Sonderzeichen wie ß nicht berücksichtig hast? Für mich als Laie, müsste es doch kein großer Umstand sein, diesen Scriptbereich um weitere Sonderzeichen zu erweitern, oder? Wenn du mir die Mapping-Vorlage lieferst, würde ich mich bereit erklären dir weitere Sonderzeichen nach dem Muster zusammenzufassen, damit eine Implementierung schneller vonstatten geht. Falls sowas noch nicht im Script berücksichtigt ist, hast du eine Idee, wann dieses gefixt werden könnte? Danke & viele Grüße. --Mike bzh BlaBla 10:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
BotWhat is the licence that you use for your code? Thankyou Fale (talk) 14:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC) BTW: I want to discuss with you a little bit about the TSUC. Can we speak out of wikimedia? (here my contacts: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Fale/Chi_sono ). Thankyou Fale (talk) 14:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC) NutzerlisteHei Magnus. Existiert zufällig für den File Upload Bot so eine Art Contributions-List, welcher Benutzer was raufgeladen hat. Ich hätte da ein paar Kandidaten, die jetzt ihre Urheberrechtsverletzungen bzw. mangelhaften Dateien anscheinend nicht mehr selber sondern über den Bot raufladen und es wäre irgendwie praktisch, denen auf die Finger schauen zu können, ohne alle Botnutzer kontrollieren zu müssen. Und kann man eigentlich einem Benutzer den TUSC-Token wieder wegnehmen (und zwar endgültig), so dass sie zwar noch beitragen können, aber nicht mehr über den Hintereingang kommen können? -- Cecil (talk) 00:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Image Deletionwarning Image:Allahno.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests. Delete images, that express hostility towards belief in God!
Wem Du den kleinen Finger reichst...Hallo Magnus, dickes Danke für das "files-in-category" tool das ich erst heute ausprobieren konnte, nachdem ich mich endlich von meinem cyber-stalker befreit und demgemäß imstande fühle, mich wieder Konstruktiverem zu widmen. Auf der vG Talk page tut sich nix, doch wäre mir Feedback zu etwa einem Dutzend Fragen höchst wichtig, bevor ich mit größeren Bearbeitungen beginne: Darf ich Dir morgen oder übermorgen eine Liste dieser Fragen vorlegen, ohne Dich zu vergrämen/rausgeworfen zu werden? Ich bin durchaus erschreckt, dass eine Vielzahl von Leuten, die ich um Rückmeldungen anbettelte, "einfach abwinken". Kann sein, dass das mit der inzwischen umständlich zu lesenden Talk page zusammenhängt, oder mit meinem Karma ... ;] lieben Gruß, Wolfgang (talk) 17:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
FragenDa ich mein Projekt denn doch bald in Schwung bringen will und allzu wenig nutzbare Rückmeldungen habe muss ich Dich doch anquatschen. Ich wiederhole dabei in etwa, was ich auf Category_talk:Vincent_van_Gogh schon von mir gegeben habe, was aber kaum wer kommentieren will (der einzige, Gryffindor, ist leider keineswegs meiner Meinung). Dass die Seite mühsam zu lesen ist, ist mir schon klar, aber ich weiß nicht wie ich mich kürzer fassen und alle offenen Fragen ansprechen sollte. Hier die 2-3 dringendsten Probleme:
Was spricht gegen (m)eine Konstruktion der Art Das würde die Kategorie chronologisch sortieren, wenn ich alle Files entsprechend umbenenne. Gleichzeitig würden multiple Dateien vom selben Bild schön hintereinander zu liegen kommen, was das Ausmisten eigentlich erst ermöglicht (von einem Bild habe ich bereits fünf Ausgaben entdeckt). Gryffindor hingegen möchte unbedingt dass laufende dreistellige Nummern vergeben werden die an diejenigen des Yorck-Projekts anschließen, was ich für vollkommen unsinnig halte. Entbehrlich wäre in Wahrheit die englischsprachige Betitelung, die ich aber belassen will. Bezüglich Entstehungsort habe ich heute eine Notiz auf Template_talk:Painting#On_"Location" hinterlassen -- könntest Du ev. dort kommentieren?
Diesbezüglich habe ich unterschiedliche Meinungen gehört: Betacommand sieht eigentlich kein Problem, Cecil und Ö sind ziemlich dagegen. Siebrand äußert sich seit Tagen nicht dazu, trotz eindringlicher Bitte, und Mike Lifeguard auch nicht. Die Kategorie enthält 350 Objekte, rund 100 weitere werde ich wohl hochladen, da Grafik und frühe Werke vollkommen unterrepräsentiert sind. Wenn ich die vorhandenen Dateien aber nicht vorher umbenenne, mache ich das Chaos nur größer. Fragen:
Mit Antworten auf Obiges wäre mir vorläufig sehr geholfen. Dass keine Nachfragen kommen, kann ich allerdings nicht garantieren ;) Danke, Wolfgang (talk) 07:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Nachdem das gesagt ist, gibt es IMHO eine bessere Möglichkeit, Kategorie-Sortierung durchzuführen. Sowohl Seiten als auch Dateien einer Kategorie werden auf der Kategorie-Seite nach ihrem "Sortiernamen" sortiert. Also : [[Category:PeachTreeImage.jpg|van Gogh 1888-04--1888-05, Arles - Peach Tree in Blossom F_404 JH_1391.jpg]] sortiert die Datei entsprechend Deinen Vorgaben innerhalb der Kategorie, ohne dass eine Umbenennung nötig wäre. Das kann man (hoffentlich) für alle Kategorien eines Bildes durch ein einfaches {{DEFAULTSORT:van Gogh 1888-04--1888-05, Arles - Peach Tree in Blossom F_404 JH_1391.jpg}} in der Bildbeschreibung erreichen. Das reduziert den Aufwand auf das Bearbeiten der Beschreibungsseite und umgeht das Umbenennen der Dateien komplett. Zumindest kurzfristig scheint mir das eine gute Lösung zu sein. Was das Umbenennen angeht: AFAIK arbeitet Brion an einem neuen Storage-Engine für Dateien. Wenn der fertig ist, wird das Umbenennen eine Sache von ein paar Klicks sein; im Moment ist es wohl noch eine grössere Schweinerei, besonders bei vielen Bildern (umbenennen aller Links in allen Wikipedias, anderen Wikimedia-Projekten; alle InstantCommons-Anwender werden einfach in Leere laufen). Wenn der neue Engine funktioniert, kann man ja eine Liste aller Bilder mit DEFAULTSORT machen, und dann in einer konzertierten Aktion umbenennen. Das ist vielleicht nicht das, was Du hören wolltest, aber immerhin eine Antwort :-) --Magnus Manske (talk) 10:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Wolfgang (Diskussion) 17:35, 27 November 2008 (UTC) Kategorien+SubkategorienDie Kategorie "Van Gogh Museum" kategorisiert automatisch "Van Gogh", d.h. Objekte die keine vG's sind geraten ebenfalls dorthin. Dasselbe gilt für Kröller-Müller-Museum. Wäre es nicht besser, das einfach abzustellen? Um das Problem zu umgehen, habe ich leider nix Besseres gewusst als Kategorie "Van Gogh works in the X Museum" zu schaffen. Das wurde wegen falscher Syntax umbenannt in "Paintings by vG in the X museum", nur leider müsste man dann auch für Grafik und Mischtechniken Unterkategorien schaffen, und dazu wieder die Überkategorie "Works" (wie G. brieflich meint) was ich unsinnig fände. Abgesehen davon, dass ich Siebrand nicht nerven will (der den Cat-move auf G's Empfehlung hinauf gemacht hat, ohne mich vorher zu fragen), versteht er mich scheinbar nicht garso gut.
1.Automatische Mit-Kategorisierung auf "Van Gogh" durch die Kategorien Category:Van Gogh Museum und Category:Kröller-Müller Museum abstellen.
2.Paintings by... durch Works by ... ersetzen. Da ohnedies jedes Kind bloß DEN vG kennt, hielte ich den elendslangen "Vincent Willem" in diesem Fall für entbehrlich.
3.Dass es sinnvoll ist, Kategorien für Painting / Mischtechnik / Zeichnung / Tuschmalerei etc-blabla zu erstellen, bezweifle ich stark. Wenn Kunstwerke ausschließlich per Template:Painting beschriftet werden, sollte sich eine Datenbankabfrage nach der Technik leicht stricken lassen, aber dass die oft in Anspruch genommen würde, bezweifle ich stark.
4.Umbenennung von Template:Painting in Template:Artwork oder Template:Art
5.Eine Bitte, sofern für Dich nachvollziehbar: Templates für "Van Gogh Museum" und "Kröller-Müller Museum" (die dann meinetwegen irgendwann mehrsprachig beschriftet werden, als pulldown ausführen, falls jemand derlei Übersetzungen vornimmt (für asiatische+ derartige Schrift, vernünftig). Das optische Chaos, das sich derzeit durch derlei Übersetzungen für den Leser der Bildbeschreibung ergibt, ließe sich dadurch vermeiden. Ich habe mich unlängst dazu im Template talk:Painting#Multilinguality und Template talk:Painting#On "Location" geäußert. Wenn Du selber da nicht aktiv wirst, aber die Ideen befürwortest, bitte ich Dich sie (die Ideen; oder mich ;) an geeignete "Ausführende" weiterzuleiten. Wolfgang (talk) 09:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Reste nationaler UploadmaskenInformationen wie == Összefoglaló == oder ==???????== finde ich für die meisten User eher störend als hilfreich und entferne sie, bisher ohne einen Rüffel einzufangen. Geht das OK oder gibt's irgendwo auf der Welt wen dem sie ECHT nützen? Oder ist drüber schonmal diskutiert/"gemeinungs-bildet" worden? imo könnte auf derlei gut verzichtet werden, und zwar bereits durch das Hochlade-Formular, das sie ja wohl produziert. Beispiele auf Wunsch. Wolfgang (talk) 13:43, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Normal or not?Hello Magnus. I was looking at new uploads and I spotted Image:Doma 3.jpg and Image:Doma 2.jpg, which look like the File Upload Bot uploaded them and tagged them as flickr-reviewed at the same time. The licensing is fine, so no problem there, but is this working as designed? Never saw your bot getting stuff from flickr before ... Cheers, Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Category intersectionsRe your message on wikitech-l: what's the difference to incategory searches using the normal MediaWiki search form? That works fine for atomic categories, too. (BTW, both approaches return the same seven articles.) Lupo 14:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Please link images
Hello Magnus Manske/Archive 4! Thank you for providing images to Wikimedia Commons. Please keep in mind that images uploaded to Commons should be useful to all users of Wikimedia projects. This is possible only if the images can be found by other people. To allow others to find the images you uploaded here, the images should be in some place that can be found by navigating the category structure. This means that you should put the images into appropriate topic pages, categories, optionally galleries, or both of them (see Commons:Categories). To find good categories for your images, the CommonSense tool may help. You can find a convenient overview of your uploaded files in this gallery. The important point is that the images should be placed in the general structure somewhere. There are a large number of completely unsorted images on Commons right now. If you would like to help to place some of those images where they can be found, please do! Thank you. BotMultichillT (talk) 06:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Commons Helper toolHi Magnus. I'm writing here cos JIRA seems not to be working. We use your wonderful tool to move images from Polish Wiki, but I observed minor flaws that increase "hand work" and makes whole procedure less clear for newbies. The best would be to show you 2 examples of files moved from en and pl wiki respectively and you should get what I mean.
Pls note how nicely your tool is reading en-wiki template [10] {{Information}} - one has nicely all data still there - original text, original author and uploader. Only thing to do is correct/precise categories and that's all ([11]), however if u move sth from polish wiki you are not getting properly all that data. Pls compare original bot-made description and corrected one ([12]). One needs to manually add original source (if its sth more than just wiki), author if different than uploader and so on. I believe that cos on polish-wiki we are using different file description template ([13]), your bot is not able to recognize its fields properly and therefore import their data. Is it possible to fix it? I can help you to tell what is what in our template (however its pretty straightforward, cos Szablon:Grafika is literal translation of Template:Information from enwiki/Commons). Second minor thing is that your tool fails to properly recognize polish-fonts. Both in description and filename. And if there are polish fonts in a filename, usually option of uploading file under a different name doesnt work too. Usually we are anyway discarding polish fonts form filenames for uploading them on Commons, but like I said, its not possible automatically. I'd appreciate if u could take a look on those issues and I serve you with further descriptions if sth is unclear. U can contact me via Polish wiki discussion page or via Commons. thx in advance. Masur (talk) 12:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC) Seasonal SPAM.Hi, I'm aware that Christmas greetings are more-or-less to be considered to be SPAM, but I can't help: File upload bot is brokenThe image description pages only read "{{". Mangostar (talk) 04:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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