Template talk:Wikidata Infobox/Archive 6

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It says "The category page needs to be linked to through a sitelink on Wikidata (under 'other sites', add the correct sitelink to 'commons')."

However, in wikidata, the section is named "Multilingual sites" not "other sites". Onthewings (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

You can change this, if you wish, at Template:Wikidata Infobox/doc — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
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Wikimedia Maps

@Mike Peel: I noticed the infobox at the page Category:Road II/160 (Czech Republic) displays a line of the road in the map, even though the related Wikidata item contains no link to Wikimedia Maps. How it works? Directly through Wikidata:Property:P402?

I suspect, that the infobox displays the linear or area location in the map only if the the location is defined also by any unique point coordinates using Wikidata:Property:P625. IMHO if the spacial data from Wikimedia Maps are available, their display should be not conditioned by Wikidata:Property:P625. ŠJů (talk) 23:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

The infobox builds a mapframe (similar to these examples) with the QID of the topic item, which is everything Kartographer needs to retrieve the geodata using the Wikimedia Maps API. Your suspicion that all this only happens if the topic item has a coordinate location (P625) statement is correct since otherwise Module:Wikidata Infobox never calls getCoordinates(). This is done to avoid displaying an empty map if Wikimedia Maps has no data about the topic item, and to avoid useless API calls. You could use the presence of a OpenStreetMap relation ID (P402) statement as a heuristic for the success of the API call, but this would probably complicate the code quite a bit. LennardHofmann (talk) 08:39, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
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Doc-page: description for parameter qid

 Info: This section was moved here from Template talk:Wikidata Infobox/doc. --W like wiki good to know 17:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello. It would be nice to mention that the qid parameter includes the initial "Q", or to give an example. I don't think that this is clear. --Strobilomyces (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Documentation is editable. Just do it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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@LennardHofmann: Talking with @Multichill: , it would be really useful to be able to call the infobox on combination categories without Wikidata items, like Category:Churches in Overveen, through a call like {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox|qid=Q16970|qid2=Q1847815}}. It shouldn't be too complex, but needs logic changes to the Lua code - so as well as checking for category combines topics (P971), the infobox should look to see if it's been passed the qid2 parameter and then display information from both items. Do you think this might be feasible? We could then bot-deploy it to quite a few of the 'category combines' categories here that we'll never be able to get dedicated Wikidata items for. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

It would also be useful to maintain a easily-accessible list of these -- perhaps an online spreadsheet, or a Commons tabular data file, or a user online database file somewhere -- so anyone wanting the information didn't have to scrape it. Might be useful to set a category for uses, and also a category for <recent change on date X> as a step to helping keeping the list updated. Agree that it would be very valuable, both for making Commons more internationalised and multilingually accessible, and as a means of data acquisition by getting users to document these cats that have no wikidata items. Jheald (talk) 21:32, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: I see the use case, but I think the call should be more like {{Wikidata Infobox|qid=none|topics=Q16970,Q1847815}}. Implementing this properly is difficult as the infobox is using the qid parameter everywhere (for auto-categorization, authority control etc.), so I would need to review the entire source code and add if-guards around everything that relies on the connection to a Wikidata item.
It would be much easier to transclude the infobox for every topic separately, as shown here. Of course, this should be done using a new template such as {{Wikidata Infobox Mini|Q16970|Q1847815}}. LennardHofmann (talk) 11:08, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
@LennardHofmann: based on your input I created {{Wikidata Infobox combines topics}} as a simple wrapper template that takes a list of topics. Let's start from there. Multichill (talk) 15:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Add tracker category if category doesn't have enough information

@Mike Peel and LennardHofmann: If Wikidata Infobox links to a category item (for example Category:Paintings in the Rijksmuseum (Q9092805)) and that category item doesn't have category's main topic (P301) or category combines topics (P971) (example), a tracker category should be added here. Name could be something like Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox no category topic. Multichill (talk) 15:16, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Multichill: This is already implemented in the sandbox as Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no topic. @Mike Peel: Can you make the changes live? In the mean time, the following (slow) query does pretty much the same:
SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?article WHERE {
  ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q4167836.
  ?article schema:about ?item ; schema:isPartOf <https://commons.wikimedia.org/> .
  MINUS { ?item wdt:P971 ?topics. }
  MINUS { ?item wdt:P301 ?maintopic. }
}
LIMIT 10
Try it!
LennardHofmann (talk) 11:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
@LennardHofmann and Mike Peel: could you plz give some advice on how these cats' topics should be set? Category:Publications of the Smithsonian Institution Category:Writers from Santa Monica, California Category:Ursidae in Sofia Zoo. RZuo (talk) 17:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
@RZuo: You want to use category combines topics (P971) for cases like these, example. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox

Ladsgroup is questioning on phab (phab:T343131) if this category is necessary, as it is apparently contributing to db bloat. @Mike Peel: Can this be safely removed? What benefit does it provide? —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

@Mdaniels5757: It is currently used in the deployment strategy for the infobox, in particular to get a list of all categories currently using the infobox (which is easy from category inclusion, less obvious for template usage). It would be nice to switch over to having a list of all categories *not* using the infobox, but that's a bit more tricky to access, and is probably still a larger list than those using the infobox. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
@LennardHofmann: Related to the discussion going on in the phab ticket, it might be good to switch to using interwiki prefix at Wikimedia (P6720) where available rather than formatter URL (P1630), what do you think? VIAF ID (P214) has both, which might be a good test case. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
The module only uses formatter URL (P1630) indirectly via formatStatements() for authority control and I don't plan to change that. Instead, we should try to avoid using external links for the helper links, which are shown at the bottom of every infobox. However, none of the linked sites seem to have interwiki prefixes yet, and the only realistic candidates for proposing new prefixes are Reasonator, Scholia, and locator-tool (the others use lots of URL parameters). LennardHofmann (talk) 07:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
@LennardHofmann: It's not the use of P1630 per se that's a problem, but external links. Please see the ticket listed above for details. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:38, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
There is an interwiki for toolforge, see [1], but I think it doesn't support variables. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:45, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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Start and end time for coordinates

I added at the item Die Badende (Q104725874) new coordinates, because the statue was dislocated. I also added start and end time for the coordinates. But the Wikidata-infobox at Category:Die Badende (Ernst Sauer) shows the old coordinates. Is it possible to show the current ones? Or maybe it would be possible to change the infobox that it's possible to show all coordinates. greetings Z thomas 06:30, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

@Z thomas: You need to deprecate the old coordinates, or mark the new coordinates as preferred. The Infobox doesn't use the start/end time qualifiers, and displaying multiple coordinates would get messy as things currently stand. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Deprecating an historic value would be considered an error on Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
@Mike Peel thanks. I will use "preferred". Greetings Z thomas 12:15, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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Position above lang templates?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Zan_zyu_gai&diff=prev&oldid=824138900

in my opinion it's better to insert the infobox above all the description templates?--RZuo (talk) 08:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

@RZuo: The bot inserts the template below the last template inclusion to avoid issues with templates colliding. Feel free to move it like you have here, as you prefer. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:52, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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Some sort of wrong synthesis

At Category:Simeon Woods Richardson the infobox links to Category:Minnesota Twins draft picks. He was a New York Mets draft pick, who ended up 2 years later playing for the Twins. I won't mess with the Wikidata content right now: I don't think any thing there is actively wrong (though it is quite incomplete) but something there right now is resulting in this incorrect synthesis. - Jmabel ! talk 21:57, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: The sitelink for that commons category was in Minnesota Twins (Q604879), which was wrong and overshadowing the link to Category:Minnesota Twins. Now moved to a new item at Category:Minnesota Twins draft picks (Q123692328). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
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Lua errors

Category:Pseudomonas aeruginosa has some lua errors ("Lua error: not enough memory."). Please fix or remove the template. Jarekt (talk) 01:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@Jarekt: Fixed by editing Wikidata, @Dhx1: had added 3.8MB(!) of data to a single authority control ID in the property [2], which fairly understandably caused this error. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, I guess I should have noticed it myself. --Jarekt (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Text wrap

@Mike Peel and Jean-Frédéric: I noticed a problem with text wrapping. If templates are used in this order: 

 
{{Wikidata Infobox}}
{{Cultural Heritage Czech Republic}}

just this morning the text wrap was working but now it's not. The second template is pushed below the bottom edge of the first template. These two templates were not edited directly, apparently something else caused the change. --ŠJů (talk) 21:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It seems to be a browser problem. The bug appears only in Firefox 122.0. In Chrome and Edge, the pages display correctly. --ŠJů (talk) 21:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

It was some short-lived problem. Now it is OK. --ŠJů (talk) 07:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Gambia

de: Diese Infobox erzeugt die Kategorie Category:Women of The Gambia by name, dies ist nicht korrekt, die Schreibweise soll lauten: Category:Women of the Gambia by name. en: This info box creates the category Category:Women of The Gambia by name, this is not correct, the spelling should be: Category:Women of the Gambia by name.

Atamari (talk) 09:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

see Category:Women_of_The_Gambia_by_name --Atamari (talk) 09:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
The reason for this is probably that The Gambia (Q1005)'s Wikidata label was recently changed. Looking at the enwiki article, the spelling "The Gambia" seems correct. Perhaps the Commons category should be moved? LennardHofmann (talk) 13:05, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Ich weis auch nicht ob es richtig Category:Women of The Gambia by name oder Category:Women of the Gambia by name geschrieben ist, aber technisch (aus der Vorlage) ist es erstmal falsch gelöst. Leider ist die Schreibweise unterschiedlich gelöst. --Atamari (talk) 14:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Agreed, the capitalization of "the" in "The Gambia" is controversial and it's not very practical to rename dozens of categories. The infobox should be fixed to not rely on the label of The Gambia (Q1005). --LennardHofmann (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
see [3] --Atamari (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

See also en:The Gambia#Etymology:

The article is ... officially used by the country's government and by international bodies.

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:56, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

See also

Category:Women of The Gambia by name and Category:Men of The Gambia by name

--Atamari (talk) 07:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Add The Gambia as another exception

@Mike Peel: There has been a short, now archived discussion, see Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox/Archive_6#Gambia where Atamari has asked in German. Recently, he asked again in Commons:Forum, cf. Bitte reparieren (Atamari is obviously very hesitant in asking English requests). Now, Rosenzweig did a deep dive into the Lua code and noticed that there is already an exception defined for the United States of America, so the same should be possible for The Gambia as requested in the archived thread. Please, Mike, as the main developer add this, as well. The reason is apparently that all categories use “the” in lower case (if used), also for The Gambia, and even the module does not look for this in uppercase. And this worked for years, but it seems to be defunct since this edit from December 2023 in Wikidata. — Speravir – 23:57, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I've added a new exception "Q1005 = 'Gambia'," to Module:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox that I think (if deployed) should fix the issue. Best, --Marsupium (talk) 08:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Either that or "Q1005 = 'the Gambia'," with lowercase the. Both should work (if I've understood this right). --Rosenzweig τ 11:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Mike Peel has edited over the past few days, but did not answer here nor did he disagree with Marsupium's proposal. So I've gone ahead and added Marsupium's line to Module:Wikidata Infobox. And apparently it's working, as predicted. --Rosenzweig τ 10:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
@Rosenzweig: I've been watching, and waiting for further input by others that commented on this (in opposition) in the past. Normally I make changes in bulk to this template every few months, given how much it is used. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:54, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
@Rosenzweig and Speravir: It does seem to be working well, though, I've just batch null edited the contents of Category:Women of The Gambia by name and Category:Men of The Gambia by name, and it's moved them all over to the lower case categories (except for one manual category that I've fixed). Thanks for contributing the change (but please do check before making future edits live, so we can bundle changes together). Pinging @Pigsonthewing and LennardHofmann: from the previous conversation here, but if there's still an issue, it should probably go to COM:CfD. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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Edit pencil

Hi veryone, on infoboxes in frwiki (usage example: Michel Talagrand) there are little blue edit pencils beside each of the displayed values from Wikidata allowing users to directly jump to Wikidata and edit the values. Couldn't this also be beneficial to have here? Best regards, --Arnd 🇺🇦 (talk) 12:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Aschroet: I'm not sure. It should be simple to enable it if we wanted, since WikidataIB supports them. However, there was negative feedback on enwiki about them cluttering up infoboxes too much, and there is the direct link to Wikidata at the bottom of the infobox anyway, so I'm not sure if they are needed. Would be interesting to see a wider discussion about this. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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Population

Category:Torgau has a strange "Population 19,802 (statistical updating, 9,765, 2022, 10,037)". d:Q12062#P1082 is actually broken down to male and female. RZuo (talk) 16:04, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, this has been fixed in the sandbox by suppressing all qualifiers except point in time (P585). Now, it reads "Population: 19,802 (2022)". --LennardHofmann (talk) 10:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
@RZuo: This is now live. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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Issue with Search Feature on Wikimedia

I conducted a search for "Solar eclipse of 2024 April 8" on Wikimedia.

Expecting a concise and accurate description of the page, I was disappointed by the search results.

Here is the link to the search results

Upon clicking, I found metadata in Hungarian, which is unusual, as the page is new and not previously associated with Hungarian. Additionally, no image is displayed.

Metadata:
Solar eclipse of 2024 April 8
eclipse solar del 8 de abril de 2024; 2024. április 8-i napfogyatkozás; 2024ko apirilaren 8ko eguzki eklipsea; eclipse solar del 8 d'abril de 2024; Sonnenfinsternis... Could the search feature generate metadata that accurately describes the page's content and include an image from the page? :'''I posted the issue on Wikipedia first and they sent me here:''' :It appears that the Commons page that is the first result uses a template called {Wikidata Infobox}. The page description that you are seeing appears to be the names of the corresponding page as listed on Wikidata at [[:d:Q2620078]]. I don't know why that template on Commons pulls in that data, but you could ask about it at Template talk:Wikidata Infobox. [[User:AceSeeker|AceSeeker]] ([[User talk:AceSeeker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC) :I think the exact purpose of this is that it appears in search results: this allows one to find the category even if they type its name in the search in Hungarian or Esperanto. The missing image is probably independent from this. —[[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] ([[User talk:Tacsipacsi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC) ::The display of metadata in an unrelated language, along with the presence of code like "<nowiki> 2024ko 8ko," is counterintuitive and needs addressing. This anomaly should be corrected to ensure a more user-friendly search experience. [[User:AceSeeker|AceSeeker]] ([[User talk:AceSeeker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC) ::: Raised at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362495 . The nowiki tag shouldn't be appearing, but the multilingual content is expected since that's deliberately embedded in the gallery/category code by the infobox to aid multilingual search. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC) ::::Thank you for the clarification Mike. While I understand the intent behind embedding multilingual content to aid searchability, the display of metadata in multiple languages seems unusual compared to typical search engine behavior and may lead to confusion among users. ::::I'm curious about Wikipedia's search engine functionality. Can it detect languages, use language tagging, or consider user preferences like preferred language or location for more relevant search results? ::::In the meantime, I'm interested in exploring potential solutions to enhance the metadata page description or contribute to improving the metadata specifically for the reported page or the infobox it uses. Are there any guidelines or best practices I should follow in this regard? ::::I remain hopeful for a resolution regarding the <nowiki> tag, and I sincerely appreciate the time being spent to address this issue. [[User:AceSeeker|AceSeeker]] ([[User talk:AceSeeker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC) ::::: The phab ticket was merged into [[:phab:T331389]], I had forgotten that this was previously pointed out. Multilingual support in search is very limited, hence this workaround. It's better to return some results and cause a little confusion, than not return the relevant results at all. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC) Closing, as it's best to follow this up in the phabricator ticket. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC) {{Section resolved|1=[[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)}} == Doc-page: usage section == Hello, in "usage" section of the [[Template:Wikidata Infobox/doc|doc-page]] the copy paste text for the template with all parameters look like this: <pre> {{Wikidata Infobox |qid= |defaultsort= |interwiki= |autocat= |trackingcats= }} </pre> Actually it is not so important, cause we usually only use <code><nowiki>{{wikidata infobox}}, but if we have to use more parameters than I propose the following layout: 

{{Wikidata Infobox
 |qid          =
 |defaultsort  =
 |interwiki    =
 |autocat      =
 |trackingcats =
}}

If you agree, I propose to change parameter print to value infobox (line 67 in doc page, at the moment it is empty so default one)

Regards --W like wiki good to know 16:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@W like wiki: Be bold! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
@ Andy Mabbett ok, done! Thx and best Regards! -- W like wiki  Please ping me! • Postive1 • Postive2  23:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Lua error

See Category:0 (number) Jarekt (talk) 02:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Fixed in Special:Diff/882222610. --LennardHofmann (talk) 17:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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Lua error

in Category:András (given name) Jarekt (talk) 15:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

no longer an error --Jarekt (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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More lua errors

at Category:0 (number) Jarekt (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

This one was fixed before by User:LennardHofmann. See Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox/Archive_6#Lua_error--Jarekt (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Fixed Jarekt (talk) 16:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Could someone check the "greek-catholic priest" vs "politician" issue?

See here: Commons:Village pump/Technical/Archive/2024/07#Occupation "greek-catholic priest" instead of "politician" in Wikidata Infobox

The edit in question has been reverted but the infoboxes still show "greek-catholic priest" instead of "politician". Nakonana (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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Alignment next to Template:Cat see also

Please see Commons:Village_pump/Technical#Layout_Template:cat_see_also.

Did this change here or there? (or not at all). Enhancing999 (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Was there a recent change to the infobox that causes things next to it to not be next to it? The See also cat template is used in a very large number of categories. This really needs quick fixing as it pushes the files and subcategories far down depending on how large the infobox is (example). Prototyperspective (talk) 22:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
This happens when the other template insists on using 100% of the page width. The solution is to fix the styling for that template so it only uses the width it needs to, or to move the infobox below the other template. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 04:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
This wasn't the case earlier and nothing was changed at the template. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
This has been the case since the start of the infobox, and why the deployment code deliberately places the infobox below such templates. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
The problem doesn't seem to be limited to "cat see also", but it does seem new. Enhancing999 (talk) 07:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
No that is false! It suddenly changed around the time this thread was started and it's a big problem that breaks category pages. Prototyperspective (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
It also happens with Geogroup. Commons:Village_pump#Stealth change of See also cat. Maybe something was changed for all these horizontal boxes. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
It may well have gotten worse, and/or started affecting more templates, but the problem itself with some templates demanding 100% page width has been around since the start. The solution is normally to fix those templates. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Got some doubt about it because I'm sure all the time I contributed I never saw this despite adding many see also cat templates while now it affects very many categories. Moreover, the template only contains {{#invoke:Cat see also|main|}} so where would it request full width or be any different than any of the many working templates on cat pages? Furthermore, requesting 100% page width with standard css shouldn't be a problem and just mean that it extends up to the infobox like it's supposed to. In any case, what would be the change required and is the file that would need to be changed Module:Cat see also? Prototyperspective (talk) 16:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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Lua error

See Category:Steamboat Willie 10th anniversary screenshots. Jarekt (talk) 03:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Jarekt: That was caused by the category combines topics (P971) → no value statement on Q125920238. I removed it since it didn't make much sense and it's rarely seen on Wikidata (This query finds all problematic statements: SELECT ?item {?item rdf:type wdno:P971 .}) --LennardHofmann (talk) 15:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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example Category:Friends (1994 TV series). right now p161 data are plaintext. would it be better if they are category links, similar to data in fields spouse, child...? see also Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2022/07/Category:Cast_members#c-Sinigh-20240914151700-Category:Cast_members. RZuo (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@RZuo: This is done for performance reasons when there are too many values shown, since there are overheads with getting the commons category links. For example, Category:Farscape does link to the cast members as there are fewer of them. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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Lua errors

Lua errors in Category:Mödelstein due to this module. Jarekt (talk) 13:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

It’s due to d:Q129238852#P466 being full of somevalue qualifiers, probably the module should handle them better. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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self-categorizing Category:Confucius

Somehow Category:Confucius ends up in Category:Confucius, so it came up on Commons:Database_reports/Self-categorized_categories.

It happens also if everything but the infobox is removed from the category.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 08:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

@Enhancing999: That was an odd one. Fixed with this edit. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:58, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Location for ISS components

I noticed that in categories for International Space Station components, Wikidata Infobox displays in "Location" field "International Space Station, Russia". See for example, Category:HREP and Category:STP-H8.

Wikidata items for that components (Q114814057 and Q114814057) include in "location" property just "International Space Station". While item for ISS (Q25271) contain nothing in property "country" and list all participants in "located in the administrative territorial entity", since de jure country's module is country's territory. All appears to be correct and logical. But for some reason, Wikidata Infobox pulls one of listed countries from that last property and displays it in infobox. For a lot of experimental subcomponents it's incorrect, since they are located, for example, on Japanese JEM-EF.

Is there's some way to make it display "International Space Station, Earth orbit" or just "International Space Station"? Trasheater Midir (talk) 19:22, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

✓ Done. Added statement "location"="Earth orbit" to ISS item: [4], now infobox displays "International Space Station, geocentric orbit". Trasheater Midir (talk) 15:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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Wikidata is removing all labels for last names and first names, creating some bugs

Hi there. So as you can see in this discussion here, the removal of all language-specific labels in favor of a unique "mulitlingual" one in Wikidata creates issues in Commons, especially categories using this current infobox. I would have like to propose a fix (even temporary while we find a better solution), this infobox being protected. I proposed an edit here. It's probably not a good long-term solution but it will fix it temporary. Probably the best approach would replace all occurence of "mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( x, 'en' )" by a custom method, where we do a logic checking for the existence of 'mul' and default to 'en'. Thanks. --Deansfa (talk) 17:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@Deansfa: I can't see the problem, can you link to a category where it's currently happening, please? getLabelByLang should fall back to mul if en is not set - or if it doesn't, that should be fixed. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Mike Peel: . This category has the issue: Category:Jean-Éric Branaa, because the wikidata element of the first name (Jean-Éric) has all its label as blank except the mul. When I fill all the labels, the category "Jean-Éric" appears. I just noticed though that if I change to the sandbox version of the Infobox, the category does show up. --Deansfa (talk) 01:38, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fallback autocat names to mul language

{{Edit request}} 

name = mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'en' ) or mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'mul' )

name = mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'en' ) or mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'mul' )

Use mul language where en is not available. See Category:Attila Orbók and Orbók (Q113860185). Matching en label was removed.

Thanks, Bean49 (talk) 13:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

@Bean49: Language fallback should mean this isn't necessary (e.g., en-gb -> en where not present, and presumably en -> mul likewise)? Is this a bug in getLabelByLang? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
No, this isn't. getLabelByLang doesn't apply any language fallbacks. We don't want general fallback for the category name. We want en, or mul if there is no en. The module has to be modified like I suggested. Bean49 (talk) 19:26, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

The en label for Orbók was deleted because it matched the mul label. Please see d:Help:Default values for labels and aliases. When the label was deleted, the category has gone. Please update the code. --Bean49 (talk) 19:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

It's fine to add mul values, but please don't remove other language labels. The code will get updated here at some point, but there should be a transition time, not an abrupt change that breaks things. I think there are other tools that also need updating to cope with mul, particularly Magnus's tools (I don't think the distributed game supports mul yet, for example). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
@Bean49: Also, if you want to speed this process up, implementing the changes in Module:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox and showing some cases where {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} is working correctly where the current version isn't, would really help. There's also this bundle of changes by @GrandEscogriffe: that needs checking. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
You don't listen to me. The category disappeared because some people started to delete en labels. Not my change breaks things, but the absence of it, not because of me, but wididata user practice. The change is very simple and straightforward. If there is no en label, use the mul label, as suggested in d:Help:Default values for labels and aliases. It breaks nothing. See above the suggested code. It is a minors change, but preserves the category. Bean49 (talk) 09:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
@Bean49: Sorry, I'm really short of time right now. If you can demo it in the sandbox and show it works, I can make it live as a one-off, but I'm not sure how it interacts with GrandEscogriffe's code there... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 12:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
@Bean49, Mike Peel, and Pigsonthewing: sorry, I should have requested editing the main module at the time. My changes follow this discussion on Wikidata's French language Village pump. They do 3 things:
  • fallback on the multilingual label when the English label is missing
  • more explicit variable names, just to make clearer what the code does (this does not change the output)
  • when autocategorizing by given name, prioritize using the wikidata statements that link to the Commons category on the given name's item, and only resort to forming a category name with the given name item's label as a fallback when those statements are missing. This is already the case when categorizing by surname.
Check this version with the sandbox template of Category:Jean-Éric Branaa. The current template fails to categorize by given name because it requires the missing English label. With the sandbox, this works based on the link from the given name item to the Commons category. It does not need using any Wikidata label, but if there were no such link, it would also work by using the mul label. GrandEscogriffe (talk) 16:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi @Mike Peel: with this, have you got enough info to copy my edit into the main module? Cheers, GrandEscogriffe (talk) 18:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
@Mike Peel: Your module doesn't work as intended. Why this module depends on a single person? Is this common on Commons? I'm not used to it. Bean49 (talk) 11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
There is also @Jarekt: and @Ebrahim: also. Wanted change is based on sandbox like this this. --Zache (talk) 15:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

I'd say that this is a pressing need, and the template should be updated sooner rather than later; perhaps as a one-off rather than waiting for the next bulk update. It's also not simply a case fixable by not removing language specific labels - new items are being created with only MUL labels. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Maybe ask people to stop deletions at Wikidata?
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
To me calls like
name = mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'en' ) or mw.wikibase.getLabelByLang( name.id, 'mul' )
make very little sense as we should not be hard-wiring lanuages on Commons. The standard call for getting label in the language of the user with proper fallbacks is implemented at Module:Wikidata label's _getLabel function (extended version) or Module:Core's core.getLabel function (striped down version). Please use one of those. --Jarekt (talk) 19:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
@Jarekt It is for category names which are afaik english by default and not in the language of the user. --Zache (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
"Maybe ask people to stop deletions at Wikidata? " Nothing is being deleted on Wikidata; data is simply being moved to a more sensible database field. Besides, this also applies to newly created items which have mul labels and no en labels.
This breaking change has been known for some time; it's not unreasonable for Wikidata to make such improvements. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

This is now live. There were quite a few changes in the sandbox, and I wanted to take the time to properly check them before deploying. Even then, there was one live bugfix to do (it was affecting Category:Norbert Gyömbér for example). Thank you for your patience. Mike Peel (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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lua error

In Category:Ingapirca. Jarekt (talk) 17:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Also Category:Puente de Soria, Covaleda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarekt (talk • contribs) 19:41, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
@Jarekt: [5] [6], but the infobox should probably be able to handle that. Multichill (talk) 21:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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{{Edit request}} Proposed change: This will fix duplicate interlang links of yue in pages such as Category:Iao Hon. emk (talk) 10:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I've turned off the edit request template since we make edits to this template in batches, let's see how this goes for a little while in the sandbox so we can combine it with other edits. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
@Emk Thanks, I filed phab:T350163 for this bug but didn't bother to workaround it yet. @Mike Peel: Remember to also remove {{#invoke:Interwiki from P460|InterwikiP1420}} from this template in the next batch. LennardHofmann (talk) 08:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Module synced from sandbox. I confirmed that yue is not longer duplicated. InterwikiP1420 will be removed on the next Template sync.--emk (talk) 20:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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