Commons:Village pump/Technical/Archive/2020/06
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There’s something wrong with the little “±” link in {{DRnav}}. I’m not sure what it’s meant to do but right now it’s an invalid link (eg on Commons:Deletion requests/2020/06/02 it becomes [1]). Brianjd (talk) 12:35, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
[{{fullurl:Template:DRnav}}|action=edit}} ±]
should be replaced with[{{fullurl:Template:DRnav|action=edit}} ±]
— Preceding unsigned comment was added by 176.122.109.86 (talk) 06:49, 3 June 2020 (UTC)- Fixed. Thank you, IP. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 05:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- This section was archived on a request by: Speravir 17:05, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
What is the problem in Creator:Gavin Newsom? It says Lua error in Module:Creator at line 839: attempt to concatenate local 'lastname' (a nil value).
So what does it means? Many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 03:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- There's no error now. Maybe it has been fixed somewhere? – Ammarpad (talk) 11:45, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad and Koavf: Nope, both my phone and computer still show the Lua error message. Also notifying template creator.廣九直通車 (talk) 11:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- @廣九直通車: It means that the module powering the creator templates is broken, see Template talk:Creator#Lua error. (It’s not this creator template’s author’s fault, but rather the module developer’s.) By the way, the error seems to be interface language-related: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:Gavin_Newsom?uselang=en is fine, but https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:Gavin_Newsom?uselang=zh is broken. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I also don't see an error. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:10, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your explanation. For the sake of centralized discussion, please refer to the discussion at Template talk:Creator#Lua error, regards.廣九直通車 (talk) 10:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad and Koavf: Nope, both my phone and computer still show the Lua error message. Also notifying template creator.廣九直通車 (talk) 11:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Video2commons error
FWIW take a look @ Commons_talk:Video2commons#There_is_a_problem_on_V2C_website_(2). You can try uploading any file from Flickr, Vimeo or your local storage. // Eatcha (talk) 10:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Watchlist e-mail notifications
Obviously, when I was young (and crazy), I thought watchlist e-mail notifications were a good thing. Now they are driving me crazy!
So here is what I have looked at:
- Global preferences > Notifications > Email options > Send me: Do not send me any email notifications
- This is no local exception to this preference on Commons.
- I don’t see any relevant preferences under Watchlist.
Yet:
- Special:Watchlist says: Email notification is enabled.
- My inbox is still being swamped with watchlist-related e-mails.
What is going on? Brianjd (talk) 12:02, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Brianjd: Watchlist emails can be controlled at the bottom of the first preferences pane (Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed). The one you found on the Notification pane is about notifications like the one that would have been sent about my mention here. Keeping emails about notifications is probably a good idea—they are low-traffic and are about things that are more likely to need your attention than usual watchlist emails (talk page messages, reverts, direct mentions to you like the one here etc.). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 16:45, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- What a silly place to put that preference! Is Phabricator the right place to discuss this? Regarding the e-mails themselves, I would rather use the on-wiki watchlist with all its special features. In particular, I usually use the “Unseen changes” filter, so anything I have looked at automatically disappears – better than having to delete each e-mail manually. Brianjd (talk) 10:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Actually it makes sense—that is the place where all email-related preferences are (except for the ones on the Notifications pane). Yes, probably the best solution is opening a Phabricator task (and hoping that Wikimedia’s user experience designers can come up with a more straightforward solution). Above I advised you to keep non-watchlist notification emails; I understand that you want to get rid of the watchlist ones (although I personally pretty much depend on watchlist emails—for example, I can see emails in one place from all of Wikimedia, and they persist even after 30 days, so I have the chance to catch up with my watchlist after some busy months). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunately the Phabricator login doesn’t work for me. Nor does the CropTool login. It’s probably something to do with my browser setup. I’ll make a note to revisit this issue when I have time.
- Your first message makes more sense now that I understand it’s about non-watchlist notifications. Brianjd (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Actually it makes sense—that is the place where all email-related preferences are (except for the ones on the Notifications pane). Yes, probably the best solution is opening a Phabricator task (and hoping that Wikimedia’s user experience designers can come up with a more straightforward solution). Above I advised you to keep non-watchlist notification emails; I understand that you want to get rid of the watchlist ones (although I personally pretty much depend on watchlist emails—for example, I can see emails in one place from all of Wikimedia, and they persist even after 30 days, so I have the chance to catch up with my watchlist after some busy months). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- What a silly place to put that preference! Is Phabricator the right place to discuss this? Regarding the e-mails themselves, I would rather use the on-wiki watchlist with all its special features. In particular, I usually use the “Unseen changes” filter, so anything I have looked at automatically disappears – better than having to delete each e-mail manually. Brianjd (talk) 10:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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- There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [3][4][5]
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22:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Has video transcoding stopped working for several weeks?
We are judging videos for Wiki Loves Folklore, but this has been actively hampered by videos not being available in different transcoded resolutions. It appears that at least since February these have not been working. For those of us with poor connections, the ability to view a HD video in a lower resolution is essential when trying to view 100s of videos submitted.
Is this a known problem, and is there a fix? I have tried purging, it appears to make no difference, they remain at "unknown status". Examples: File:Jewish folk dance in the street of Paris.ogv, File:Embolada folk music of Recife, Pernambuco, Brazil.webm. Fæ (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Fæ: Once the transcode fails, AFAIK the software never retries automatically. Purging doesn’t help, either, as that simply regenerates the page HTML from whatever data the database contains. What does help is clicking the “reset transcode” links one by one in the table (this is available for autoconfirmed users only). I demonstrated this with only the VP9 1080p version of File:Jewish folk dance in the street of Paris.ogv so that you can see the difference. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- In addition to transcodes sometimes failing after a file is uploaded, the transcodes will not regenerate if a file is renamed. That appears to be the case for both the linked files. It's quite common with videos originally uploaded with a
.ogg
extension since one of SteinsplitterBot's tasks is changing that to.ogv
. clpo13(talk) 03:08, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- In addition to transcodes sometimes failing after a file is uploaded, the transcodes will not regenerate if a file is renamed. That appears to be the case for both the linked files. It's quite common with videos originally uploaded with a
- Thanks, both these scenarios look like bugs to me. I'll raise it on Phab if they aren't there already. Fæ (talk) 11:31, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Deleted disambiguation pages
I've just undeleted Calf, which was deleted some time back as an empty gallery — this was a disambiguation page, useful for distinguishing pages such as Calf (young bovine) from a mix of categories. This left me wondering about other such pages: how many other mainspace pages have been wrongly deleted as empty? So I'm wondering if it's possible to run a database search for all pages that meet the following criteria:
- Mainspace page, has a deletion log, and is currently redlinked
- One or more deletion log entries begins with "Empty or single image gallery" or "Gallery page without at least two images"
- Page isn't linked from any pages whose names include "Commons:Deletion requests"
Since this just involves checking deletion logs and WhatLinksHere, this shouldn't require an admin. I'm envisioning going through the pages that appear in the search results, if someone can put this together. Is it practical to do as a one-time request? Nyttend (talk) 19:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Nyttend: https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/45659 should be the query for that, not sure how useful it will be with 17,000 pages. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 15:10, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Uploading problem, caused by Internet Archive or WMF?
After a request (@ShakespeareFan00: ), I have been trying to upload 600+ documents from the Internet Archive, which are appearing in Category:Catalogs of Copyright Entries. However over the past 12 hours the uploads have been dogged with getting stuck in an infinite retrying upload loop, which may be a failure of the API to signal that the upload has completed. An example is File:Catalog of Copyright Entries 3D Ser Vol 25 Pts 3-4 (IA catalogofcop197132534libr).pdf which uploaded perfectly well, but the upload loop carried on retrying.
Size does not seem very relevant, but larger files might be more likely to glitch, there being a 180MB document that has failed several times now and is still pending, though this example is 100MB and uploaded first time.
Is there a known upload issue or could this be something to do with the Internet Archive site not behaving well? --Fæ (talk) 10:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- There's a partial list of the files that might be problematic here- https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:AntiCompositeBot/CatCoprEntries.ipynb. Can some consider doing a manual upload of these as URL2Commons didn't want to? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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21:11, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata not found
Hello. Why tepmplate {{Wikidata Infobox}} at Category:Aristotelis Zervoudis can't find Zervoudis entry at Wikidata ? What did I do wrong ? ǁ ǁǁǁ Chalk19 (talk) 09:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Chalk19: Fixed by hardcoding the Wikidata ID “Q55356782” into the template. But it would still be nice to know why the automatic lookup failed. Brianjd (talk) 10:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Chalk19: You have to link the Commons category to the Wikidata item, see Commons:Wikidata infobox help "#4. How is a Commons category linked to a Wikidata item?" You can either do that on Wikidata by adding the link to the Commons category under 'other sites', or you can add the QID to the infobox like @Brianjd: has and Pi bot will add the link on Wikidata based on that. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Brianjd and Mike Peel: Thank you all for your help. Stay safe. ǁ ǁǁǁ Chalk19 (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Notifications
I just happened to click on a link to rowiki, which caused some bot to deliver me a welcome message, which triggered a useless notification. Useless because I don’t speak Romanian, have no involvement with rowiki and never intend to have involvement with rowiki. But it gets worse: Since I had moved back to familiar projects by the time I saw the notification, I had to click through a confusing popup to find out what was going on.
That’s an extreme example, but the general problem is common: notifications seem to be delayed, and usually presented as “unread” even though I have clicked on the notification, read the page and responded to it! That’s what the blue dot means, right? What’s going on? This is really annoying!
(This may not be the right place to discuss this, but I couldn’t find a better one.) Brianjd (talk) 12:56, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata watchlist messages no longer showing names
The past few days, the Wikidata edits in my watchlist have stopped showing descriptions, and instead only showing the codes:
- File:Derby railway station MMB 94.jpg 20:51 +555 Tessa piccolina talk contribs block Created claim: d:Special:EntityPage/P180: d:Special:EntityPage/Q55488 Tag: Computer-Aided Tagging - manual
When before it would have said something like
- File:Derby railway station MMB 94.jpg 20:51 +555 Tessa piccolina talk contribs block Created claim: depicts (P180): railway station (Q55488) Tag: Computer-Aided Tagging - manual
Anyone know what's changed? -mattbuck (Talk) 21:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Mattbuck: This issue was just mentioned in phab:T255078. There are also more serious issues with inaccessible page histories and diffs, so hopefully it will be fixed soon (including readding the labels). —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- Tacsipacsi, it seems to be working again, thanks for the info. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Another issue (don’t know whether it’s related): Special:Diff/425576840 says:
- File:Derby railway station MMB 94.jpg 20:51 +555 Tessa piccolina talk contribs block Created claim: depicts (P180): railway station (Q55488) Tag: Computer-Aided Tagging - manual
But Special:PermanentLink/425576840 (which should look exactly the same) says:
- File:Derby railway station MMB 94.jpg 20:51 +555 Tessa piccolina talk contribs block Created claim: d:Special:EntityPage/P180: d:Special:EntityPage/Q55488 Tag: Computer-Aided Tagging - manual
(When I posted my comment, I just pasted everything as text, not links, so the same issue won’t occur again.) Brianjd (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Mattbuck and Tacsipacsi: Pinging users who were involved above. Brianjd (talk) 09:05, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Interestingly there's also some line spacing differences on the page, just a few pixels here and there but noticable when you click back and forth. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- I created phab:T255356 to request feature parity on oldid pages. (I wouldn’t expect such fast response as in the previous case, as that was emergency with error messages instead of pages, while there’s nothing like that here.) The pixel differences probably arise from how the browser rounds subpixel sizes. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Interestingly there's also some line spacing differences on the page, just a few pixels here and there but noticable when you click back and forth. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
"In other projects" links to the very same Commons category
On Category:Felix Frang there is a side bar link "In other projects", Wikimedia Commons, which then links to the very same category. Obviously a Commons category page should not link to Commons itself as "other project". This situation has happened before (in other categories), but I thougth it was fixed. Any idea why it happens again? MKFI (talk) 06:57, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- @MKFI: Confirming that I have the same issue. I know nothing about the history of this issue or why it’s occurring now. Brianjd (talk) 08:58, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
How to upload a large PDF (>100MB)?
Commons:Maximum file size says "The maximum file size for any file on Commons is 4 GiB (4,294,967,296 bytes). Uploads using the Upload Wizard, other tools that support chunked uploads, and server-side uploads must be smaller than this limit."
However when I try to upload https://archive.org/download/catalogofcopy13libr/catalogofcopy13libr.pdf from the URL given, I consistently get a "Wikimedia Error" page.
My next thought was to use a Chunked upload which had worked previously, however for some reason the script didn't seem to want to install or behave according to the documentation. (It did not appear in my sidebar where it was supposed to have).
It is not unreasonable to expect to be able to upload files from a URL, or using a script , with the instructions provided on Commons without having to play "hunt the bug", on a repeated basis.
Can someone here please provide clear one step at time instructions on how a large PDF is supposed to uploaded to Commons without any errors happening? (Because at present it doesn't seem to possible to do it reliably)
ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:07, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
\u200e problem
See special:permalink/387142460, it's generated by subst:lle . The resultant page contains two extra characters \u200e. I suppose something went wrong with {{Lle}} and probably Module:Languages, but I cannot figure out what's wrong. Can you plz help?--Roy17 (talk) 20:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Toolforge hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from tools.wmflabs.org to toolforge.org. The routing scheme is moving from tools.wmflabs.org/toolname to toolname.toolforge.org. You can read the details. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can ask for help.
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- There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the Monobook skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [14]
- Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [15]
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21:36, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Ungrammatical message
Hi all - I recently renamed a file on Commons and noticed for the first time that one of the messages displayed during the change process reads: "Replacing usage immediately using your user account. Do not close this window until the process completed." Is there any way someone can get in and tweak it so that there is an "is" before that "completed", please? Grutness (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- The text is defined on MediaWiki:Gadget-libGlobalReplace.js, so probably your best chance is writing on its talk page (with an {{Edit request}} template), so that even if your request is fulfilled after a long time, it doesn’t get archived too early. By the way, I think the author wanted to use the active voice (the process itself completes, not some third party completes it), although in that case probably it should be present simple, i.e. “until the process completes”. But I’m not a native speaker, so I may be wrong. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:39, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- I am a native speaker, and it sounds good enough to me. I have made the edit request.
- However, what they really need to do is to move all the strings to a separate file, for easy correction and localisation. Brianjd (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Grutness: I actually prefer “is complete”. But I have no strong feeling either way. Feel free to change my edit request (or make a new one) if you have a better wording. Brianjd (talk) 14:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 14:39, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- "...is complete" is fine (as is "...completes"). Thanks all :) Grutness (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
IA's source of Congressional Research Service reports, and removal of front pages...
I asked User:Fæ to look into mirroring some of the Congressional Research Service reports on IA to Commons in good faith.
It seems however that some of them may have come to IA via a contentious intermediate source.
An example being: File:95-408 (IA 95-408-crs).pdf.
The concerns are
i) The copyright or other status of the underlying report. The 'provenance' of the files given the source, and concerns about the inclusion of embargoed materials.
ii) Commons shouldn't promote the contentious intermediate source, thus if the file is still okay to host, the front page of the PDF should be removed.
ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Reports with an actual title (as opposed to just a number) seem to be without a front-sheet for the contentious intermediate source. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Plan on getting on with uploading. Whether to mass remove the cover sheet can be a separate discussion which has has no effect on copyright as any CRS report is by law public domain. You could always notify WMF legal to ensure there are no extra-copyright concerns for their employer. --Fæ (talk) 16:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- It was more the 'provenance' of the reports, and whether they contained embargoed material, than the copyright as such. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:01, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, that's clear. However Commons has no policy which recognizes press embargoes for legally public domain material which has been verifiably published. Note that the case in point is 12 years old, hosted at IA for 5 years so far with no take-downs, and there's no internationally recognized superinjunction as far as we know. --Fæ (talk) 17:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- It was more the 'provenance' of the reports, and whether they contained embargoed material, than the copyright as such. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:01, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- There are also no markings on the report to initially indicate the presence of any "sensitive" material. However, given some of the other material the contentious source has dealt with in the past, I hope you can understand the concern and caution. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
the Q52 project
Hi! On File:2012 Latvian referendum.svg I see this text in license template: "... Laurijs at the Q52 project. ..." Hmmm Q52... Is it just me or? --MGA73 (talk) 18:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- {{PD-user-w/en}} is calling {{Projectname}} without
|lang=
, and that template didn't properly fall back to{{int:lang}}
without a lang parameter. I've fixed that, everything is working now. Not sure why it broke recently. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 00:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC)- Thank you @AntiCompositeNumber: --MGA73 (talk) 08:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Perhaps a bot should fix it because it seems that many files use the old way of using the template. Example File:Rotterdamse ZGT.jpg. And the tools that moves files to Commons may need to be changed too. --MGA73 (talk) 08:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you @AntiCompositeNumber: --MGA73 (talk) 08:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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- There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [18]
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should be replaced with.vector-menu-tabs
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- The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback. [20]
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18:48, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
"No categorization" in categorized files
Dear Wikimedians,
while the upload (Upload wizard) I often copy several categories into the field "other information" in this style: [[Category:XYZ]]
. Sometimes I do not enter anything into the categorization field. After doing this, my file page gets a "not categorized" template, but the file is properly categorized. Can somebody fix this issue?
Thanks, --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- @PantheraLeo1359531: The problem with this is that the categories may not be at the bottom of the wikitext, which is where they should be. Example: Special:PermanentLink/428493807. We have a bot to fix this; perhaps we could fix this in the upload wizard too. Brianjd (talk) 09:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the answer :) --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 16:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Video2Commons problem
V2C previously had an error, which stuck at "Converting" for a long time, then I decided to aborted the video and try upload once more. However, the status of V2C remained "Your task is being aborted..." for days. I'm being stuck here and cannot upload any video. --A1Cafel (talk) 10:05, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, my understanding is that it will remain offline, possibly indefinitely per Phab:T236446 as can any tool that repeatedly accesses YouTube. --Fæ (talk) 10:27, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Camera heading discrepancies
File:Royal Crown embellished Pylon.jpg:
- There is a discrepancy of 2160 degrees between the above camera heading (set to 101) and the ones stored at SDC (set to 2261). Please reconcile them.
Two questions:
- @PhoenixMaimitiValentine: The original description provided by you claims a heading of 2261 degrees in the template (which was later copied to SDC by a bot); can you explain this?
- Where does the 101 come from? I can’t see 101 anywhere else.
Brianjd (talk) 03:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- At least some of the uploader’s other files have the same issue; so whatever the fix is, it needs to be applied there too. Brianjd (talk) 03:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Aloha, Thank you for asking. Please allow me to explain. Mauna ‘Ala (The Royal Mausoleum) is listed at Location: 2261 Nu’uanu Ave on Wikipedia. When I uploaded 2 years ago (I was new to Wiki Loves Monuments) my camera automatically downloaded information into my submission. The SDC by a bot suggested the address it recognizes as the general area for Mauna ‘Ala at Nu’uanu as listed on Wikipedia and I went with that suggestion. My camera had the accurate coordinate while standing infront of the pylon. That would explain 101- the difference from the actual and the accepted according to Wikipedia.
Please help me to decide what you render best! I have 3 entries for Mauna ‘Ala. They may have similar issues, because as stated earlier, my camera had the exact location from where I stood while taking the shot, however Mauna ‘Ala is generally accepted as 2261 Nu’uanu Ave by Wikipedia. I went with whatever suggestion the SDC bot gave. Kalākaua Crypt at Mauna ‘Ala, Chapel at Mauna ‘Ala and Royal Crown Embellished Pylon are all housed at Mauna ‘Ala. What should I do?
What ever you think is the better description, I’ll leave it up to your expertise in this matter. There’s the one the SDC bot suggested or the actual degree my camera recorded. Mauna ‘Ala is not a large area in comparison to other places, however technology has become increasingly more accurate. I just wanted my photos to be associated with the Royal Mausoleum, Mauna ‘Ala so I went with the SDC bot suggestion. I hope this satisfies your question. If my response is confusing, I remember my camera downloading directly, then having the computer or SDC bot make suggestions with the general location of Mauna ‘Ala. I don’t know how to fix this discrepancy. I’ll need assistance, please.
Mahalo (thanks) PhoenixMaimitiValentine 04:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @PhoenixMaimitiValentine: Commons’ signatures policy requires your signature to contain a link to at least one of: your user page, your user talk page or the page listing your contributions. I have added a link to your signature. Brianjd (talk) 04:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Your signature should also contain the time of your comment, which I have added. If you type four tildes (
~~~~
) at the end of your comment, the software will add a valid signature for you. Brianjd (talk) 04:32, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Your signature should also contain the time of your comment, which I have added. If you type four tildes (
- @PhoenixMaimitiValentine: Regarding your photos, I am not sure what is going on here. I will leave it up to the real experts here. (And I still have no idea where the 101 came from.) Brianjd (talk) 04:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank You!PhoenixMaimitiValentine (talk) 04:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- The {{Location}} template on File:Royal Crown embellished Pylon.jpg has a heading specified as
heading:2261
, which is more than once around the circle. SDC stores the smallest equivalent of this heading, which is 101, because 2261 - (6 × 360) = 101°. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 06:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)- *smacks head* I should have noticed this.
- @Samwilson: Still confused though.
If I understand you correctly, the two values that need “reconciling” actually came from the same place. This makes no sense: why doesn’t the system just change the SDC to 101 automatically?Brianjd (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)- No, one comes from the template and one comes from SDC. It’s starting to make sense. But not quite:
- Looks like SDC value was copied from the template by a bot, so again, the system should have fixed this automatically.
- The “structured data” tab actually says 2261, which seems to contract your claim that SDC stores the smallest equivalent value of 101.
- No, one comes from the template and one comes from SDC. It’s starting to make sense. But not quite:
- @Brianjd: Good question! I'm not sure. I guess that {{Location}} does the reconciling before checking with SDC, and doesn't realise that it's being confused. … Yes, it looks like Module:Coordinates normalizes the heading first, then checks it against what's in SDC. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 06:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwilson: Based on the uploader’s response, this problem only affects three files. So I will make sure everything there is set to 101. I will leave it to others to examine Module:Coordinates. Then we should be done here! Brianjd (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Brianjd: Yep, sounds sensible. It's probably a pretty rare thing for any software to write a heading greater than 360°. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 06:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwilson: I have fixed the three files. For each file, I fixed the template first (so I could put an explanation in the edit summary), then the structured data. Two lessons here:
- We need edit summaries for structured data (Who was the genius who decided not to allow them?).
- After fixing the template, but before fixing the structure data, it continued to show the same warning, consistent with your explanation above.
- Oh, wait, the uploader’s response also suggests that 101° might not be the correct value to begin with. I’m obviously getting tired to contribute to Commons. I’m going away now. Brianjd (talk) 06:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwilson: I have fixed the three files. For each file, I fixed the template first (so I could put an explanation in the edit summary), then the structured data. Two lessons here:
- @Brianjd: Yep, sounds sensible. It's probably a pretty rare thing for any software to write a heading greater than 360°. — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 06:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Samwilson: Based on the uploader’s response, this problem only affects three files. So I will make sure everything there is set to 101. I will leave it to others to examine Module:Coordinates. Then we should be done here! Brianjd (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
User:Majora/LicenseReview.js
User:Majora/LicenseReview.js, a common license reviewing script, appears to be interacting poorly with Vector as of MW 1.35.0-wmf.37 today. Unfortunately, this script is unmaintained after Majora retired. Is there a license reviewer with better JS abilities than me who can maintain this script? --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- If anyone wanna see an example: File:Error_MGA73_2020-06-16.jpg --MGA73 (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- w:en:Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Update_to_broken_Vector_menu_for_Twinkle_—_DEVS_READ_HERE should provide enough information to fix this issue. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 03:01, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- The gadget MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-LicenseReview.js is also affected. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:59, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- … because it is a copy of Majora's script. — Speravir – 22:13, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- The gadget MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-LicenseReview.js is also affected. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:59, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- w:en:Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Update_to_broken_Vector_menu_for_Twinkle_—_DEVS_READ_HERE should provide enough information to fix this issue. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 03:01, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Precautionary log out of all users
Hi all,
According to the linked mailing list post, everyone on Wikimedia wikis will shortly be logged out and will have to log back in again.
Due to a configuration error, session cookies may have been sent in cacheable responses. Some users had reported that they saw the site as if they were logged in as someone else. The number of affected users is believed to be very small. However, resetting all sessions is done as a prudent measure to ensure that the impact is limited.
See also, the complete mailing list thread.
--Kaartic (talk) 08:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Bug in file moving script?
Hi, I just moved a couple of files which ended up making some strange edits on the files moved (See edit history of the redirect page):
Is this a known bug with the file moving script that I just haven't run into before or should I report this somewhere? TommyG (talk) 08:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like a timing issue/race condition. I moved two files which were referring to one another and they ended up overwriting each others edits. TommyG (talk) 08:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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App is sending DR notices to the nominator instead of the uploader?
Take a look at Special:Contributions/Nguyenkhoidoanh99 plz. This user makes a few DR apparently via an app (which app?). All the notices went to this user's rather than uploaders' talk pages.--Roy17 (talk) 23:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- I have no idea which app this is, but there’s another issue: it’s also generating rationales like “Because it is Logo”. Other users have created DRs like this too, and it drives every DR reviewer nuts. Perhaps we could fix this at the same time. Brianjd (talk) 02:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Seems to be the Commons Android app. It has the option of giving three or more deletion rationales, one for scope, one for copyvio and one general. So the "Becouse it is" part is standardized within the app in the translatewiki:Wikimedia:Commons-android-strings-delete_helper_ask_alert_set_positive_button_reason/en message. So, you need to figure out what the expected outcome is supposed to be and report the issue at [24].--Snaevar (talk) 13:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- I reported a bug very like this, and it was apparently fixed, in March: https://github.com/commons-app/apps-android-commons/issues/3464 I wonder if the user in this case is simply using an outdated version of the App. --bjh21 (talk) 13:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)