Commons:Deletion requests/Archive/2014/08/30
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Derivative work of modern 3D sculpture that is copyrighted by FIFA. The trophy was designed (1971) by Italian artist Silvio Gazzaniga, who is still alive.
See also similar cases that were deleted: here (1), here (2) and here (3).
Fma12 (talk) 13:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I understand why we delete the picture of the trophy taken elsewhere but to delete the image which was taken at its "sole purpose", the FIFA World Cup is beyond idiotic..yes pictures of the "CUP ITSELF" is copyrighted but it surely does NOT apply when taken at THIS event..There is a flaw in commons DW and it surely does not apply to this--Stemoc (talk) 14:11, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The trophy is clearly de minimis here. Yann (talk) 14:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The trophy is clearly not de minimis. The fact that the trophy takes up a relatively small part of the photo is irrelevant. The purpose of the photo is to show the trophy, which is further emphasized by the name of the file and its use in illustrating en:FIFA World Cup Trophy. Thus, its inclusion is not incidental. In fact, it fails Commons:De minimis#Guidelines on every single point. —LX (talk, contribs) 19:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- @LX: Sorry, but your argument does not make sense. You mean that the designer of the cup could sue the photographer and reusers of this picture because it includes the cup? I bet you anything that you are wrong... Yann (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- You're saying that COM:DM applies even though it fails COM:DM#Guidelines on every point, and it's my argument that doesn't make sense? Anyone can sue anyone. Whether or not they can win is hard to know before a verdict, but that kind of gambling is not our cup of tea. The Edvard Eriksen estate harassing people who publish photos of the Little Mermaid statues with some success is probably the best known example of copyright holders of sculptures going after photographers, so it's certainly not unheard of. A lot of people would get away with it based on fair use arguments, but that's not what we're about either. The fact is, this is not a free photo because its purpose is to depict a non-free work. —LX (talk, contribs) 21:50, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- I feel your reasoning is as flawed as the Commons:DW, the sole purpose of that cup is the FIFA World Cup and pictures of players hoisting the cup after the main FINAL is where this DW rule does not/should not apply..if the pic was taken days before the cup, i would not have uploaded it myself beaus I'm aware of our DW rule. The picture of the cup on its own may fall under DW but as it stands, its not....the reason given by fma12 is actually very stupid, those pics which were deleted were taken 'outside' of the FIFA World Cup, our DW rules most definitely should NOT apply to the current situation..--Stemoc (talk) 01:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Stemoc, my reasons are not "very stupid" as you stated above. My reason is that there are rules in Commons and we have to follow them. Beyond your intentions when uploading this file (and the others that I nominated), I included links to previous DR which were derivative works (all of the files were supressed although in some cases the cup was displayed at a small size). I made the nominations by the certainty that the photos are copyvios. The only "very stupid" thing here is your attemp of defense: who said you that the deleted photos were taken "outside" the competition? I personally nominated some of those files and several photos had been taken inside of the World Cup. - Fma12 (talk) 02:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- What you're talking about there is fair use. —LX (talk, contribs) 06:09, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- firstly Fma12, you only nominated them after Argentina lost the FIFAWC final to Germany, might i also mention that you are an Argentinian? I hope you are being rational cause it doesn't seem like you are..Yes, in previous case the trophy was subject to commercialization and thus would easily falls under the Commons:DW rule but not in this case, i saw all the images that were deleted and they deserve to be deleted but not this ones, none for the FIFAWC Final, I'm sorry but you are just being silly and irrational here, the trophy on its own is subject to our DW rule but not in situations where the sole reason for the trophy was on display which in this case is the lifting of the cup after the final. Had the pic been taken a day after the FIFAWC, I Would have nominated it for deletion myself..I don't see Silvio Gazzaniga suing thousands if not millions of newspapers and magazines around the world for showing the picture of the German team lifting the cup..as i said earlier, our OWN policy in regards to this issue is "FLAWED" and LX, the image can't be used as 'fair-use' just because one small section of the image 'possibly' is non-free, that is again in my sense, stupid..either we change our policy on this or make an RfC to change our policy which does not take THIS into account..--Stemoc (talk) 11:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Stemac, the argument that I nominated the file because of the defeat of Argentina at the hands of Germany is, at least, ridiculous. I have been nominating many pictures of copyrighted trophies (not only the FIFA WC), even before Argentina lost the final to Germany. In cases like that, my passion for football is always left behind. - Fma12 (talk) 13:56, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions are decided based on copyright law and existing Commons policies (which includes Commons:De minimis). Policy changes should be discussed elsewhere. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- @LX: Do you realise that you are actually alone against everyone else here? Regards, Yann (talk) 05:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- From Commons:Deletion requests: "Any expressed consensus will be taken into account so far as possible, but consensus can never trump copyright law nor can it override Commons Policy." In this case, "everyone" consists of you, the uploader and three redlinked users with less than 300 edits of combined Commons experience (one of which restated a previously refuted argument and one of which offered no arguments). I'm sorry, but a 5–2 headcount doesn't change the fact that COM:DM#Guidelines says what it says, and you're not going to bully me into pretending it doesn't (but thank you for removing the bit about everyone thinking I'm out of my senses). —LX (talk, contribs) 06:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think you forgot NickK which is an experienced user, and who made good arguments, and previous DR about the same issue. De minimis is always a bit subjective, and not back and white, that's why opinions of others count. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- I did overlook Nick. Sorry about that. A bit subjective, yes. That's why COM:DM lists multiple criteria, if you follow those rather than emotion, this isn't even close. —LX (talk, contribs) 06:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, if we follow criteria, we get a one really close criterion: Copyrighted work X is identifiable, but is a small part of a larger work, so that the larger work cannot easily be shown without showing X. X is a part of the larger work, and its inclusion is unavoidable.. Here the copyrighted work is a trophy, the larger work is "Philipp Lahm (or German team) lift the FIFA World Cup trophy". It is completely impossible to picture the whole German team celebrating without picturing the trophy, and the focus is clearly not on the trophy (it is too small) — NickK (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry that is not the case, there were plenty of opportunities to capture the team celebrating prior to the award of the trophy.LGA talkedits 05:54, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Probably you have not watched the final. It is impossible to picture the team (all 23 players) celebrating prior to the award of the trophy, as Philipp Lahm as the captain is the last to arrive, and he does not join the team before receiving the trophy. Prior to that the team is lined up on the stairs, where it is impossible to picture them. Thus this photo depicts the very first moment the whole German team is celebrating, with all 23 players pictured including Philipp Lahm. If you know any other images (incl. non-free) depicting all players prior to award of the cup, please provide links to them — NickK (talk) 05:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry that is not the case, there were plenty of opportunities to capture the team celebrating prior to the award of the trophy.LGA talkedits 05:54, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, if we follow criteria, we get a one really close criterion: Copyrighted work X is identifiable, but is a small part of a larger work, so that the larger work cannot easily be shown without showing X. X is a part of the larger work, and its inclusion is unavoidable.. Here the copyrighted work is a trophy, the larger work is "Philipp Lahm (or German team) lift the FIFA World Cup trophy". It is completely impossible to picture the whole German team celebrating without picturing the trophy, and the focus is clearly not on the trophy (it is too small) — NickK (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- I did overlook Nick. Sorry about that. A bit subjective, yes. That's why COM:DM lists multiple criteria, if you follow those rather than emotion, this isn't even close. —LX (talk, contribs) 06:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- I think you forgot NickK which is an experienced user, and who made good arguments, and previous DR about the same issue. De minimis is always a bit subjective, and not back and white, that's why opinions of others count. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- From Commons:Deletion requests: "Any expressed consensus will be taken into account so far as possible, but consensus can never trump copyright law nor can it override Commons Policy." In this case, "everyone" consists of you, the uploader and three redlinked users with less than 300 edits of combined Commons experience (one of which restated a previously refuted argument and one of which offered no arguments). I'm sorry, but a 5–2 headcount doesn't change the fact that COM:DM#Guidelines says what it says, and you're not going to bully me into pretending it doesn't (but thank you for removing the bit about everyone thinking I'm out of my senses). —LX (talk, contribs) 06:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- @LX: Do you realise that you are actually alone against everyone else here? Regards, Yann (talk) 05:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- I feel your reasoning is as flawed as the Commons:DW, the sole purpose of that cup is the FIFA World Cup and pictures of players hoisting the cup after the main FINAL is where this DW rule does not/should not apply..if the pic was taken days before the cup, i would not have uploaded it myself beaus I'm aware of our DW rule. The picture of the cup on its own may fall under DW but as it stands, its not....the reason given by fma12 is actually very stupid, those pics which were deleted were taken 'outside' of the FIFA World Cup, our DW rules most definitely should NOT apply to the current situation..--Stemoc (talk) 01:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- You're saying that COM:DM applies even though it fails COM:DM#Guidelines on every point, and it's my argument that doesn't make sense? Anyone can sue anyone. Whether or not they can win is hard to know before a verdict, but that kind of gambling is not our cup of tea. The Edvard Eriksen estate harassing people who publish photos of the Little Mermaid statues with some success is probably the best known example of copyright holders of sculptures going after photographers, so it's certainly not unheard of. A lot of people would get away with it based on fair use arguments, but that's not what we're about either. The fact is, this is not a free photo because its purpose is to depict a non-free work. —LX (talk, contribs) 21:50, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- @LX: Sorry, but your argument does not make sense. You mean that the designer of the cup could sue the photographer and reusers of this picture because it includes the cup? I bet you anything that you are wrong... Yann (talk) 20:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly de minimis. --DerHandelsreisende (talk) 09:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- As I've already stated, Commons' policy on de minimis is at Commons:De minimis, and this fails Commons:De minimis#Guidelines on every point. Simply repeating that this is de minimis without bringing any new arguments to the table does not make it so. Please remember that deletion discussions are not a vote, and as explained at Commons:Deletion requests, consensus can never override Commons Policy. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- This is not a vote. You cant change my opinion. --DerHandelsreisende (talk) 20:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. The goal of the photo is not to show Philipp Lahm lifting a work by Silvio Gazzaniga, but to show celebration on the occasion of obtaining the trophy designed by no matter whom. This photo would have a value had the trophy been designed by any other artist or even had the trophy been blurred. This is exactly similar to Commons:Deletion requests/File:FIFA World Cup 2010 Spain with cup.jpg and completely different from Commons:Deletion requests/File:HK MK Man Ming Sporting Goods WorldCup.jpg, where the cup was the only object — NickK (talk) 13:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Those who decided to use the photo as an illustration for en:FIFA World Cup Trophy clearly disagree. A photo with the trophy blurred would be fine, but I suspect it would not get much use... I agree that this is similar to Commons:Deletion requests/File:FIFA World Cup 2010 Spain with cup.jpg, but I disagree with the outcome of that deletion discussion, which completely ignores COM:DM#Guidelines. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- If anything that DR is possibly the best reason to keep pics like this since the focus on the trophy on that DR is slightly much bigger and yet it fulfills our de-minimis criteria perfectly, as i said earlier, the article is about the "2014 FIFA World Cup", its pointless to upload all images of the world's 2nd biggest event and not be able to allow an image of someone hoisting the trophy associated with it which isn't really the focus of the picture, the team celebration is..again, if it was just the picture of the trophy, i would agree with the DR but it looks like good sense had prevailed in previous DR relating to this and I hope it continues..LX, I feel you have more problem with the "cropped" version of this image than this image itself. I did not make the cropping , I chose not to, someone else did on the enwiki as they wanted to use it on the Main Page, I may agree with the deletion of that cropping as its is the centre of focus but not this full version--Stemoc (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- I do not think that the fact that image of X can be used for illustrating a copyrighted object Y can be the reason for deletion. Try looking at the classical case of en:Louvre Pyramid: images of Louvre featuring the Pyramid were systematically considered as legal (as DM), although cropping the Pyramid only would be considered illegal (as it would be an image of a copyrighted work). Similarly to the article en:FIFA World Cup Trophy, this is not really a great illustration, but at least it seems to be a legal one — NickK (talk) 05:47, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- You say it yourself the aim of the photograph is to depict the award of the work of Silvio Gazzaniga so that works presence can not be considered COM:DM in the resulting image. LGA talkedits 05:54, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- according to that article u keep linking "FIFA's regulations now state that the trophy, unlike its predecessor, cannot be won outright: the winners of the tournament receive a Bronze replica which is gold plated rather than solid gold" <in that case, that trophy in the picture is "not" the work of "Silvio Gazzaniga" but a "knock-off" so now i seriously doubt that DW actually applies to clones of the trophy which was not directly created by Silvio but by someone else..--Stemoc (talk) 07:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Those who decided to use the photo as an illustration for en:FIFA World Cup Trophy clearly disagree. A photo with the trophy blurred would be fine, but I suspect it would not get much use... I agree that this is similar to Commons:Deletion requests/File:FIFA World Cup 2010 Spain with cup.jpg, but I disagree with the outcome of that deletion discussion, which completely ignores COM:DM#Guidelines. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The point of the photo is to depict the German national team celebrating their victory at the football world championship, not to depict Mr Gazzaniga's piece of art. --RJFF (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- This is demonstrably false, as it is used to illustrate en:FIFA World Cup Trophy. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- uhm, it was added to that article because the only image on that page of the trophy was deleted because of the DW and there needs to be some sort of 'image' to represent the trophy on the wiki, even if its barely in the picture and that picture was used as there was no alternatives as they were all deleted.. your reasoning here is moot..--Stemoc (talk) 22:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- It is used to represent the trophy, which means that the point of the photo is to depict the trophy. De minimis is not a magic loophole for illustrating articles on copyrighted works. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- It is wrong to assert that the point of the photo is to depict the trophy. The point of the photo is clearly to depict Philipp Lahm with the German team. If you replace the trophy with some other award for the victory, the photo would make sense, if you replace Philipp Lahm and the German team with 23 random guys, the photo would be useless. Which means the point of the photo is to depict Philipp Lahm and the German team. Just the same way as in File:Louvre at night centered.jpg the point is not to depict Louvre Pyramid, although it is clearly visible — NickK (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Again, it is being used to illustrate the trophy in the article on the trophy. If anything is incidental here, I'd say it's Lahm... —LX (talk, contribs) 09:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- This doesn't prove anything, as shown by the Louvre Pyramid example. The fact that this image is included in the article about the trophy does not change in anyway the fact that it is de minimis. As for LGA's comment above, it is just ridiculous. Not really worth commenting. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- The "Louvre Pyramid example" is a very poor one, primary because there exists a explicit french case law allowing for "accessory compared to the main represented or handled subject" when related to architectural works and secondly US copyright law allows for photographs of buildings. There is no way, to quote the policy, the trophy as depicted could be "such a trivial use that the consent of the copyright owner is not required". I have no doubt that if you placed this image on a t-shirt and sold them in either New York or Berlin FIFA would have no hesitation in taking to the courts to protect there IP therefore this image does not meet the Definition of Free the WMF Licensing policy requires of us. LGA talkedits 09:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- This French court case is not special to French law. It exists in all law. That's exactly what de minimis is about. And regarding your T-shirt, I believe you don't know what you are talking about. It is completely ridiculous, same as your argument above. Yann (talk) 12:30, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- The "Louvre Pyramid example" is a very poor one, primary because there exists a explicit french case law allowing for "accessory compared to the main represented or handled subject" when related to architectural works and secondly US copyright law allows for photographs of buildings. There is no way, to quote the policy, the trophy as depicted could be "such a trivial use that the consent of the copyright owner is not required". I have no doubt that if you placed this image on a t-shirt and sold them in either New York or Berlin FIFA would have no hesitation in taking to the courts to protect there IP therefore this image does not meet the Definition of Free the WMF Licensing policy requires of us. LGA talkedits 09:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- This doesn't prove anything, as shown by the Louvre Pyramid example. The fact that this image is included in the article about the trophy does not change in anyway the fact that it is de minimis. As for LGA's comment above, it is just ridiculous. Not really worth commenting. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Again, it is being used to illustrate the trophy in the article on the trophy. If anything is incidental here, I'd say it's Lahm... —LX (talk, contribs) 09:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- It is wrong to assert that the point of the photo is to depict the trophy. The point of the photo is clearly to depict Philipp Lahm with the German team. If you replace the trophy with some other award for the victory, the photo would make sense, if you replace Philipp Lahm and the German team with 23 random guys, the photo would be useless. Which means the point of the photo is to depict Philipp Lahm and the German team. Just the same way as in File:Louvre at night centered.jpg the point is not to depict Louvre Pyramid, although it is clearly visible — NickK (talk) 04:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- It is used to represent the trophy, which means that the point of the photo is to depict the trophy. De minimis is not a magic loophole for illustrating articles on copyrighted works. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- uhm, it was added to that article because the only image on that page of the trophy was deleted because of the DW and there needs to be some sort of 'image' to represent the trophy on the wiki, even if its barely in the picture and that picture was used as there was no alternatives as they were all deleted.. your reasoning here is moot..--Stemoc (talk) 22:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- This is demonstrably false, as it is used to illustrate en:FIFA World Cup Trophy. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep ---dam- (talk) 05:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- This isn't a vote. If you have any actual arguments to bring to the table, please do so. —LX (talk, contribs) 18:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The image is taken to depict the team holding Mr Gazzaniga's piece of art, it is not COM:DM and unless FIFA consent to licencing the image with a commons compatible licence we can't keep it. FIFA guard their IP very tightly (see Nico Rosberg: World Cup helmet changed after Fifa objection). LGA talkedits 00:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes but Nico wasn't actually using the REAL trophy on his helmet, it was a "derivative work" ..not the real thing..there are laws on derivate works..what FIFA copyrights is people using the trophy's image to 'commercialize' their own product, yes that applies to the formula one which is one big billboard of commercials/product placements, it doesn't really apply to the event in question..I think most of you are reading this 'out of context' sponsors of FIFAWC over the decades have been allowed to promote/use the images but we are a non-profit/non-commercial organisation and we are not selling some product so IP Laws don't apply..--Stemoc (talk) 01:41, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Firstly the WMF which runs commons is a commercial organisation, secondly the WMF Licensing policy requires commons only to host works that have a Free Content License. This image contains at its very heart a work that is protected by FIFA and as such this image does not meet the WMF requirement of free works, no amount of wishing can change that. The image was framed on purpose, to include in it, and to capture, the protected work, therefore it's inclusion can not be considered COM:DM. With regard to the sponsors' use of the trophy, one can reasonably assume that they pay large sums of money to be associated with the event and in return FIFA will allow them to use the image of the trophy under licence, that licence would not be one that comes close to commons compatible. LGA talkedits 04:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- The FIFA statement ends by If anyone could use the Official Marks for free and create an association with the 2014 FIFA World Cup™, there would be no reason to become a Commercial Affiliate. Firstly, these rules are already violated by the very fact of existence of Category:FIFA World Cup 2014, as both FIFA and World Cup are trademarked by FIFA exactly the same way as the cup is. Secondly, these situations (Nico Rosberg's helmet and this photo) can in no way be compared, as Nico Rosberg used the depiction of the cup in the design of his own helmet (something that is reserved to the abovementioned Commercial Affiliates), while this image depicts 23 players, coaches and a number of other people with the cup. There is no way to reserve this usage to Commercial Affiliates, as this would mean that hardly any photo from the event can be published (for example, even File:Shkodran Mustafi20140714 0012 (cropped).jpg is, according to your theory, illegal as the word FIFA is subject to the same restrictions as the cup). The point of COM:DM is exactly about such cases: there is a copyrighted work pictured, but it is in such context that it can't violate any restrictions — NickK (talk) 05:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- You should re-read the first line of COM:DM, where it outlines what the point of DM is : "de minimis non curat lex ("The law does not concern itself with trifles") De minimis use of a copyrighted work is such a trivial use that the consent of the copyright owner is not required." the appearance of the copyright work in this image is not trivial, it was captured on purpose with the intent of showing it, therefore it can not be regarded as de minimis. LGA talkedits 06:25, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- The FIFA statement ends by If anyone could use the Official Marks for free and create an association with the 2014 FIFA World Cup™, there would be no reason to become a Commercial Affiliate. Firstly, these rules are already violated by the very fact of existence of Category:FIFA World Cup 2014, as both FIFA and World Cup are trademarked by FIFA exactly the same way as the cup is. Secondly, these situations (Nico Rosberg's helmet and this photo) can in no way be compared, as Nico Rosberg used the depiction of the cup in the design of his own helmet (something that is reserved to the abovementioned Commercial Affiliates), while this image depicts 23 players, coaches and a number of other people with the cup. There is no way to reserve this usage to Commercial Affiliates, as this would mean that hardly any photo from the event can be published (for example, even File:Shkodran Mustafi20140714 0012 (cropped).jpg is, according to your theory, illegal as the word FIFA is subject to the same restrictions as the cup). The point of COM:DM is exactly about such cases: there is a copyrighted work pictured, but it is in such context that it can't violate any restrictions — NickK (talk) 05:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Firstly the WMF which runs commons is a commercial organisation, secondly the WMF Licensing policy requires commons only to host works that have a Free Content License. This image contains at its very heart a work that is protected by FIFA and as such this image does not meet the WMF requirement of free works, no amount of wishing can change that. The image was framed on purpose, to include in it, and to capture, the protected work, therefore it's inclusion can not be considered COM:DM. With regard to the sponsors' use of the trophy, one can reasonably assume that they pay large sums of money to be associated with the event and in return FIFA will allow them to use the image of the trophy under licence, that licence would not be one that comes close to commons compatible. LGA talkedits 04:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes but Nico wasn't actually using the REAL trophy on his helmet, it was a "derivative work" ..not the real thing..there are laws on derivate works..what FIFA copyrights is people using the trophy's image to 'commercialize' their own product, yes that applies to the formula one which is one big billboard of commercials/product placements, it doesn't really apply to the event in question..I think most of you are reading this 'out of context' sponsors of FIFAWC over the decades have been allowed to promote/use the images but we are a non-profit/non-commercial organisation and we are not selling some product so IP Laws don't apply..--Stemoc (talk) 01:41, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Kept: as per NickK and others. Yann (talk) 06:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
User:Yann in my view erred in both commons policy and law with the closure of the previous DR. The inclusion of the copyright work (the trophy designed Italian artist Silvio Gazzaniga) is neither trivial or incidental in this picture, its inclusion was a result of a deliberate and conscious decision of the person taking the image to included it so therefore "de minimis non curat lex (The law does not concern itself with trifles) does not apply. The area of copyright law that does apply to the inclusion of the copyright work in images of this nature is the fair use provision which specifically covers works of this nature when it says "... for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright" and that is exactly the use this image is being put to on the projects. However it is the expressed requirement of the Wikimedia Foundation that commons does not host works that require the reliance on such fair use provisions, we therefore need to move this image to projects that allow fair use and delete it from commons. LGA talkedits 01:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I do not read previous discussion but I doubt that the image was kept because of "reliance on [] fair use provisions". I also looked at the image before reading your argument and was surprised to hear that the reason for deletion is "inclusion of the copyright[ed] trophy designed [by] Italian artist". I was surprised because I did not noticed any trophies, so I went back to the image page and sure enough there is a nondescript blurry blob held by one of the players. It is hard to spot since many other people also hold their arms up and many hold other objects, like phones, hardly anybody looks at the trophy. I zoomed at it and it is quite blurry, not something that could be cropped and used to illustrate the trophy. The way I see it it is quite minor part of the image and fits requirements of de minimis. I doubt the photographer made "deliberate and conscious decision [] to included it". Assuming he noticed it at all, it is a photo of a team and if one guy on the team holds a trophy than there is no way to exclude it. --Jarekt (talk) 02:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Even if it were a minor part (which I will come back to) the trophies name figures in the filename, the description and on two of the tagged categories as well as being used to illustrate the trophy on multiple projects, those are four of the six tests used to determine that de minimis does not apply. On the subject of it being a minor part it is the focal point, the majority of those in the image are looking at the work, it is a key component, it is neither a trivial or incidental part of the image all of which go to show it is not de minimis. LGA talkedits 04:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Which two categories? You seem to be mixing 2014 FIFA World Cup (competition) and FIFA World Cup trophy. I do not see any trophy-related categories, but I do see two categories related to the competition. This completely normal: the image depicts the team celebrating their victory in the competition, thus there is nothing strange in adding it to categories related to the competition — NickK (talk) 04:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Even if it were a minor part (which I will come back to) the trophies name figures in the filename, the description and on two of the tagged categories as well as being used to illustrate the trophy on multiple projects, those are four of the six tests used to determine that de minimis does not apply. On the subject of it being a minor part it is the focal point, the majority of those in the image are looking at the work, it is a key component, it is neither a trivial or incidental part of the image all of which go to show it is not de minimis. LGA talkedits 04:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Speaking of fair use provisions is pretty funny if you use the regular definition limitation and exception to the exclusive right granted by copyright law to the author of a creative work: in this case even COM:FOP will become fair use as this is literally an exception to the exclusive right (i.e. this exception allows us to take pictures of otherwise copyrighted objects). However, this is irrelevant to the discussion. I do not see what new arguments were brought by User:LGA here compared to the previous discussion, as this discussion was not based on fair use provisions, it was based on COM:DM. This case clearly corresponds to the provision Copyrighted work X is identifiable, but is a small part of a larger work, so that the larger work cannot easily be shown without showing X. X is a part of the larger work, and its inclusion is unavoidable. (see example with the team logo): the image depicts 23-man German football team celebrating which was impossible to picture without the cup (due to the nature of the ceremony Philipp Lahm was the last to arrive). I do not see what new arguments were brought to this nomination, and I do not see how this discussion can result in anything else then reiteration of previous arguments — NickK (talk) 04:49, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- No it is in "Copyrighted work X is a key part of the subject (eg it is the reason for taking the photo)." category, if you look at the six test for when DM does not apply it passes all of them. LGA talkedits 06:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep--Stemoc 05:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Speedy Kept, no new and valid arguments have been provided so any further discussion is moot. Don't re-open DR's just because you don't like the outcome of the previous DR. --Denniss (talk) 14:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
do not want any more 2600:100C:B21F:D20D:44A1:FD0:ECAE:11CE 04:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Kept: no reason given Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Very Blurry Picture that was taken in the dark and when I tried to enhance it did not work EurovisionNim (talk) 05:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: by User:Fastily. JuTa 21:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Permanent photo display in public place. No FoP in Georgia. Warfieldian (talk) 17:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: Per num Geagea (talk) 17:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
I uploaded the wrong file. I have a better quality picture that I am going to upload in place of this one. Sorry for the extra work. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 00:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- The replacement picture is here: File:Louis Nix 2014.JPG. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 00:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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A person of zero notability. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 00:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Probably not own work. Looks like a contract sample to me. IMHO out of scope as well. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Files in Category:Ashgabat Olympic Stadium
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Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Files in Category:Ashgabat Olympic Stadium
[edit]In most countries, all paintings, sculpture, architecture, text, and other creative works have copyrights which last for 50 years after the death of the creator. An image of a work that is still under copyright is a derivative work, and infringes on the copyright so that we cannot usually keep the image on Commons. In some countries, there is a special exception to the copyright law which allows such images under certain circumstances. We call that exception freedom of panorama (FOP). Unfortunately there is no applicable FOP exception in Turkmenistan.
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A1Cafel (talk) 13:31, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Krd 07:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Files in Category:Ashgabat Winter Sports Complex
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Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:17, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Promotional material outside of COM:SCOPE. Ellin Beltz (talk) 05:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Terms of usage, Commons not a personal photo storage site. Articseahorse (talk) 05:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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unused personal file 37.5.7.137 06:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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I guess it is against Japanese law to take pictures of recognizable people without their permission. Mycomp (talk) 10:23, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Close as Kept; I would guess that sports people on the field of play at a game would be an exception. (Let me know if this is incorrect/contrary to usual practice.) Image is also in use in multiple projects. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Derivative work of a non-free content. The statue has built in 2003 and the stature therefore is not in public domain in 2014 --Hahifuheho (talk) 06:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Derivative work of a non-free content. The statue has built in 1985 and the stature therefore is not in public domain in 2014 --Hahifuheho (talk) 06:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
unused personal file 37.5.7.137 06:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Derivative work of a non-free content. The creator of the work, Hisashi Sugimura has died in 2004. The work therefore is not in public domain in 2014.--Hahifuheho (talk) 07:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Derivative work of a non-free content. The creator of the statue, Katsuzo Entsubo has died in 2003. The statue is not in public domain in 2014. --Hahifuheho (talk) 06:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Cover of a magazine, needs an OTRS ticket 37.5.7.137 07:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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unused personal file 37.5.7.137 07:10, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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unused personal file 37.5.7.137 07:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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File needs an OTRS ticket 37.5.7.137 07:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Unused personal file 37.5.7.137 07:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
not educational, not useful, pornographic, gross David Condrey (talk) 07:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Note:
- 18:12, 6 September 2014 INeverCry (talk | contribs | block) restored page File:Upclose flaccid penis.jpg (9 revisions and 1 file restored: bad dr)
So it was kept --MGA73 (talk) 16:54, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Star Trek - Data's Head and other parts.jpg. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 07:58, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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Reasons for deletion request --David Condrey (talk) 08:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
That's 649 redundant, disgusting, pornographic, not-education, potentially self-promotional, disgusting, images of penis. lol David Condrey (talk) 08:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC) And I'm sure there are many more.
Deleted: INeverCry 01:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Restored: Spurious DR and mistaken close by me. All the redlinks above are non-existent files. The actual files end with .jpg rather than .JPG. I've checked them all, and the .jpgs are all fine. INeverCry 18:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
courtesy of Control Products inc- obvious copyright violation claimed as own work Jimfbleak (talk) 08:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Useless with the current description 37.5.7.137 08:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Derivative work of artistic elements on the vehicle; Bulgaria has no FOP that is acceptable for Commons. Gazebo (talk) 09:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
No date, no author, bogus license. Most probably not in the public domain. Yann (talk) 09:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Spam (w:Special:Undelete/User:Specsmaster). MER-C 09:27, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Plain commercial advertisement, out of project scope (Examples of files that are not realistically useful for an educational purpose: Advertising or self-promotion.) Ies (talk) 09:41, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Plain commercial advertisement, out of project scope (Examples of files that are not realistically useful for an educational purpose: Advertising or self-promotion.) Ies (talk) 09:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Out of Scope. No encyclopaedic use. Dandelo (talk) 11:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
No encyclopaedic use. Dandelo (talk) 11:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Out of Scope. No encyclopaedic use. Dandelo (talk) 11:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Out of Scope. No encyclopaedic use. Dandelo (talk) 11:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
not in scope Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
On the page is something written that it is licend under GFDL but I can't find the image nor can't find any real license. Sanandros (talk) 11:46, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Imam Khamenei 2.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Imam in exile.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Vincennes shot.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Osirak nuclear reactor before operation opera.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Plan of Osirak.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Superme Leaders of Iran.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Shahab 3 firing.jpg. —LX (talk, contribs) 13:55, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
no EXIF info, unlikely to be "own work". Uploader has otherwise no contribution. Wcam (talk) 12:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Head cuted in, made for hoax article on Swedish Wikipedia Hangsna (talk) 12:35, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Delete image not found on source site per source given. It appear to be a very near duplicate of this freely licenced image File:West Riding House, Albion Street, Leeds - geograph.org.uk - 1365004.jpg. Ww2censor (talk) 13:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
No realistic educational use per COM:EDUSE because it appears to have been made up by the uploader for a fake article (en:Aurean Empire), which was deleted on 28 August 2014. Green Giant (talk) 13:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
No realistic educational use per COM:EDUSE because it appears to have been created by the uploader for a fake article (en:Aurean Empire), which was deleted on 28 August 2014. Additionally the crown in the image appears to be a copy of the first version of File:Crown of Italy.svg, which is licensed as CC BY 3.0 but this image does not appear to have credited those authors, although the original source image (File:Ströhl-Regentenkronen-Fig. 12.png) is PD-old. Green Giant (talk) 13:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Modern picture with a modern inscription Ghirlandajo (talk) 13:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Оставить. Изображение - копия с более старого источника, не обнаруженного с Инете. (McOwkin 17:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)).
Deleted: INeverCry 01:39, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions, missing EXIF.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
"All Rights Reserved" on the source page 89.68.151.197 14:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Source: KSYK archive (Kulosaari school archive) –Makele-90 (talk) 14:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Payaso Guachiplin (talk · contribs)
[edit]Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions, missing EXIF.
EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:40, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Low resolution identical of File:Arthur James, Vanity Fair, 1904-05-26.jpg The Theosophist (talk) 14:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Most probably not own work: pro studio shot, small size, no EXIF data. Yann (talk) 14:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Probably not own work: small size, no EXIF data. Yann (talk) 15:43, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the original seismic image has given permission for this image to be used Mikenorton (talk) 15:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the underlying seismic image has given permission for the image to be used Mikenorton (talk) 15:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the underlying seismic image has given permission for the use of this image Mikenorton (talk) 15:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the underlying seismic image has given permission for its use Mikenorton (talk) 15:58, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the original seismic image has given permission for its use Mikenorton (talk) 16:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
There is no evidence that the copyright holder of the underlying seismic image has given permission for its use Mikenorton (talk) 16:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Own work seems dubious here. Claimed as own work with a date of 12 March 2008, uploaded 23 August 2009, EXIF states date was 11 February 2010. Very low resolution. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Big watermark makes me doubt own work. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
User's other upload was a copyvio. This one lacks metadata, is moderately low resolution, and has a clearly incorrect date (it's date of upload, not photo). COM:PRP -mattbuck (Talk) 16:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 16:50, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 16:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 16:55, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Low quality private child image, not realistically useful for an educational purpose, out of project scope. Most likely also a copyvio: Source = facebook. Ies (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
too blurry; very poor quality; Ю. Данилевский (talk) 16:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
very poor quality; Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Outside of COM:SCOPE. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Unused personal file. There is only user contribution. Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
test upload Ю. Данилевский (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:42, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Picture of sculpture in France. There is no FoP in France. Warfieldian (talk) 17:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
While I believe that a photo of Tiffany Goodman would be within our project scope, I do not think that this image is actually own work. The posing and background suggest a semi-professional photographer, not someone taking a photo of themselves using a timer. Without explicit permission via OTRS I do not believe we can host this image on Commons. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:48, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Appears to be statue within past 50 years but no date given on submission. No FoP for artistic works in Japan. Warfieldian (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
COM:FOP#Germany. In most countries, all paintings, sculpture, architecture, text, and other creative works have copyrights which last for 70 years after the death of the creator. An image of a work that is still under copyright is a derivative work, and infringes on the copyright so that we cannot usually keep the image on Commons. In some countries, there is a special exception to the copyright law which allows such images under certain circumstances. We call that exception freedom of panorama (FOP). Unfortunately there is no applicable FOP exception in Germany. 84.61.136.79 19:45, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Delete This 1994 stamp cannot possibly comply with the licence because that tag only applies to stamp issued pre-1946 per COM:CT. Ww2censor (talk) 20:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Composite image with unknown sources Eeekster (talk) 20:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
I propose to delete this file, because this shoulder strap with one little star did never exist in the Soviet Navy, Red Army, in the Soviet Armed force or in the Armed force of Russian Federation. --HHubi (talk) 14:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
inappropriate license tag, possible copyvio Sebari (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- sorry if I uploaded it with an inappropriate license tag; copyright is not violated since it is a photography comissioned by the German state; the picture is property of the Goverment of Berlin. Which license tag is appropriate?User:greenleef (talk) 13:40, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Works commissioned by German government organizations are not under a free licenses, and are usually not applicable for uploading to commons. --Sebari (talk) 19:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
pronunciation is not from a native Jeuwre (talk) 21:04, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:43, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Greekqueen (talk · contribs)
[edit]Personal images, out of scope, grabbed from the internet.
Savhñ 21:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
laughlin died in 1997. making this statue after 1978 and subject to FoP which is not available in U.S. Warfieldian (talk) 21:48, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your careful attention. This is actually the James H. Laughlin of Jones & Laughlin Steel; he died in 1882 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Laughlin). According to the cemetery site (http://www.alleghenycemetery.com/content.php?cat=genealogy&page=monuments&mode=detail&id=15181), the monument was erected in 1885.--Cbaile19 (talk) 22:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thanks, that's great. could you note that on the description of the image? Warfieldian (talk) 00:36, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
It’s done. Thanks again.--Cbaile19 (talk) 01:19, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
no usable qualilty, not used Avron (talk) 21:54, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
personal photo, no used Avron (talk) 22:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
source indicates that this is not own work Avron (talk) 22:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
personal photo, not used Avron (talk) 22:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
personal photo, not used Avron (talk) 22:41, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
The image was created by Sigurd Frosterus, who died 2 March 1956. Copyright law in Finland (the source country) calls for the image to be protected until 70 years after the creator's death. The image therefore is not eligible for upload to the Commons until 2026. Diannaa (talk) 23:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:45, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
out of scope - unused personal image INeverCry 23:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: Didym (talk) 17:08, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
Wrong person. 99.104.36.111 01:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy keep please: She IS Wendy M. Masiello, several sources confirm this. No valid reason for deletion. --Amitie 10g (talk) 03:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy keep please: The photo appeared in the Texas Tech University alumni magazine. The photo is attributed by the USAF as Wendy Motlong Masiello. That photograph is of Wendy Motlong (Masiello). If there's some other reason why its deletion is sought, please present that reason. But a case of false identity it is not. Richard David Ramsey (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Possible explanation. That photo, the one which currently appears and which is being considered for deletion, is of Wendy Motlong Masiello as a Major General (look at the two shoulder stars). Here's the LATER photograph of Wendy Motlong Masiello as a Lieutenant General (three stars):
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If you want to switch to the later photograph, fine. But the change will not correct a mistake. With either photograph, no mistake exists. This is not a case of "wrong person" but merely a case of an earlier and a later picture of the same person, with concomitant change in rank. Richard David Ramsey (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Possible explanation. That photo, the one which currently appears and which is being considered for deletion, is of Wendy Motlong Masiello as a Major General (look at the two shoulder stars). Here's the LATER photograph of Wendy Motlong Masiello as a Lieutenant General (three stars):
- Recommended resolution. Please see whether the edit I just did on Wendy M. Masiello resolves the question satisfactorily. I updated the profiled photo but kept the earlier photo as a thumb. If I was wrong for doing so during this discussion, please forgive me. I don't mean to pre-empt anyone's input, but it's obvious that there's really no controversy, just the availability of a later and an earlier photograph. I say keep them both. Richard David Ramsey (talk) 16:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Huntster as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Per John Hopkins University APL image use policy (http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/imageUsePolicy.php) non-commercial use is restricted. While New Horizons may be a NASA mission, all renderings, illustrations and photos are not necessarily release from copyright simply due to affiliation. Partner institutions may exercise their own copyright if a work is made outside of the NASA contract. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:29, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see any way out of this mess. Any ideas how to legally keep this file, any loopholes? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is a mess, and I keep seeing that folks are assuming way too much in terms of NASA's reach in terms of copyright ineligibility. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry for converting your Speedy to DR. I just hate to get rid of those files. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:47, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- I understand. I prefer to strongly exercise the rule of caution regarding such questionable files, especially when the creator presents such straightforward release conditions. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:49, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry for converting your Speedy to DR. I just hate to get rid of those files. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 03:47, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is a mess, and I keep seeing that folks are assuming way too much in terms of NASA's reach in terms of copyright ineligibility. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Huntster as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: See credit line at http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/artistConcepts/artistConcepts_02.html. Per John Hopkins University APL image use policy (http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/imageUsePolicy.php) non-commercial use is restricted. While New Horizons may be a NASA mission, all renderings, illustrations and photos are not necessarily release from copyright simply due to affiliation. Partner institutions may exercise their own copyright if a work is made outside of the NASA contract. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Huntster as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: See credit line at http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/artistConcepts/artistConcepts_04.html. Per John Hopkins University APL image use policy (http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/imageUsePolicy.php) non-commercial use is restricted. While New Horizons may be a NASA mission, all renderings, illustrations and photos are not necessarily release from copyright simply due to affiliation. Partner institutions may exercise their own copyright if a work is made outside of the NASA contract. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:32, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
This file was initially tagged by Huntster as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: See credit line at http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/artistConcepts/artistConcepts_06.html. Per John Hopkins University APL image use policy (http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/imageUsePolicy.php) non-commercial use is restricted. While New Horizons may be a NASA mission, all renderings, illustrations and photos are not necessarily release from copyright simply due to affiliation. Partner institutions may exercise their own copyright if a work is made outside of the NASA contract. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 02:32, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 01:13, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Source for the two images included in the screenshot. Attributon neede? Delete per COM:PCP if needed. Steinsplitter (talk) 12:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: There are several Firefox screenshots without sourcing of the images on the pages. This picture is in the Public domain, so Keep. --Amitie 10g (talk) 15:11, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: Although the one image is PD, the other is unknown. If it requires attribution, as it probably does, that must be given. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Derivative work of artistic elements on the depicted vehicle(s), France has no FOP.
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- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Banette 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
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- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Banette 3. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Belin 0. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Belin 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Belin 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane credit lyonnaise 1. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane credit lyonnaise 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Festina 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Festina 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Festina 3. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Guildinvest 2. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Guildinvest vision1. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Haribo 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Haribo 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Haribo 3. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Kleber 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Kleber 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Mecenat Chirugie. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Mickey Renault. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Mickey VW 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Mickey VW 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane PMU 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane PMU 3. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Pub Cofidis 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Pub Cofidis 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane RAGT. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Senseo 2. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Skoda Octavia + Yeti 1. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane St. Michel +Carrefour. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane St. Michel 1. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane St. Michel 5. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Teisseire 0. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Teisseire 1. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Teisseire 7. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Teisseire 8. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Teisseire 9. Free image Spielvogel. No copyright..jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Vittel +McCain. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane Vittel +McCain3. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright.jpg
- File:2014 Tour de France. Caravane x-tra Kleber. Free image Spielvogel. Zero copyright..jpg
- File:2014-07-16 Etape 11 du Tour de France. Caravane Cochonou 1. Free image. No copyright. Spielvogel..JPG
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Alcatel.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Antargaz.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Banette.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Cochonou.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Haribo.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-L'Équipe.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-LCL.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Nesquick 2.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Nesquick.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Panach.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-PMU.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Teisseire.jpg
- File:Caravane du Tour de France 2011-Vittel 2.jpg
- File:Red Bull car in Le Havre (France).jpg
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Aujourd'hui en France.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Banette 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Banette 2.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Carrefour 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Cochonou 1.JPG
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- File:TDF2012 15e étape Devenir gendarme.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Haribo 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Haribo 2.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Ibis Budget Hotels.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Kleber 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Kleber 2.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape LCL 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape LCL 3.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Luxembourg.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape PMU 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Saint-Michel 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Saint-Michel 2.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Skoda 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Teisseire.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Vittel 1.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Vittel 2.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Vittel 4.JPG
- File:TDF2012 15e étape Xtra 2.JPG
- File:Tour de France 2009 - The Caravan 4.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 006.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 009.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 010.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 011.jpg
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- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 026.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 027.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 029.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 030.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 031.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 032.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 033.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 034.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 036.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 037.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 040.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 041.jpg
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- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 045.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 046.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 047.jpg
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- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 052.jpg
- File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 053.jpg
- File:Vittel Tour 2010 stage 1 start.jpg
- File:Voiture acquarel.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 1.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 10.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 11.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 14.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 15.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 16.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 19.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 3.jpg
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- File:Étape 13 - caravane 5.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 8.jpg
- File:Étape 13 - caravane 9.jpg
Gazebo (talk) 09:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep where is the « Derivative work of artistic elements on the depicted vehicle(s), France has no FOP » ? those FOP in France is not vehicule. So, if you wanted to delete those files, you have check all files in the category of Caravane du Tour de France! Marianne Casamance (talk) 10:37, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep "artistic elements"? Is that all... --Aga (d) 11:21, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep It's an adversting image. --ComputerHotline (talk) 18:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep It's because of aberration such as this that Commons and WP have lost the original spirit--Global Ref (talk) 03:04, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep This is no deep artwork in art. It is advertising and targets to be seen by many people as possible. Outside France, there's no advertising effect due some the offered products are not or rarely avail. --Hans Haase (talk,express talk) 15:52, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, this is a trademark problem more than a copyright problem. See Commons:Non-copyright restrictions. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 08:52, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, I can´t see any derivative work of artistic elements. This seems to be one of the deletion requests, that are able to kill WikimediaCommons one day. Spielvogel (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Un coup de pied au cul serait bien mérité. Au lieu de faire le nuisible, Gazebo devrait directement contacter l'organisation du Tour de France, ce serait plus productif, et règlerait la question. JÄNNICK Jérémy (talk) 17:37, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete most of them per nomination. The cars like in File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 031.jpg or File:Tour de France 20130704 Aix-en-Provence 009.jpg are equipped with copyright protected elements, other car decorations may be copyright protected artwork themselves (e.g. File:TDF2012 15e étape LCL 1.JPG). --Krd 09:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep No derivative work of artistic elements.Palamède (talk) 16:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep French law wants to protect artistic work from economic and any other exploitation. Looking at the pictures named above, I can´t find any artistic element. But even if jurisprudence will see a definite artistic character: An artist who puts his work on wheels, running it intentionally some weeks and thousands of miles on all roads of a country, knowing that millions of spectators are waiting along the road, knowing that almost all of them are equipped with a digital camera, knowing that thousands of photos of his work will be shown in social medias: This artist is very aware of the risk of losing any possible rights to possibly derivative works. Conclusion: Let´s see it the old-fashioned British way: Keep cool ladies and gentlemen and let´s have a good cup of tea. No FOP problem.--Scotfreegirl (talk) 19:21, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I see no justification whatever that could allow keeping any of the images above. All contain either sculptural works, including many copyrighted characters, or photographs, or both. Several of the comments suggest that these are advertising, not "artistic" and therefore somehow all right. Please remember that the two are not mutually exclusive -- all advertising is copyrighted. In particular note that the argument presented by Scotfreegirl is directly addressed by the Commons Precautionary Principle, our most basic rule.. Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: Per my comment above. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 10:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Files in Category:Minis as Red Bull campaign car
[edit]The depicted vehicle or vehicles incorporate artistic elements that are likely copyrighted. (Some of the photos are from countries that have FOP for artwork; however, it seems unlikely that the artwork on the vehicles would be considered to be permanently installed in a fixed location.)
- File:"Red Bull" MINI, Belfast - geograph.org.uk - 1619759.jpg
- File:2009-04-18 Red Bull car in Durham.jpg
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 01.JPG
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 02.JPG
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 03.JPG
- File:Daini Keihin 09.jpg
- File:Fukushima Sky Park REDBULL MINI R55 EXTRA 300S.JPG
- File:HK MK Bute Street Castle Peak Road MiniBus.JPG
- File:It gives you wings - geograph.org.uk - 1438693.jpg
- File:MINI Cooper Red Bull (Orange Julep).jpg
- File:Mini for Red Bull campaign in Sofia, Bulgaria.jpg
- File:Mini Red Bull Międzyzdroje1.JPG
- File:Mini Red Bull Międzyzdroje2.JPG
- File:Mini Red Bull.jpg
- File:Pic-004-the whole of Redbull MINI.JPG
- File:Pic-005-the back of Redbull MINI.JPG
- File:PKW Red Bull beim Eishockey.jpg
- File:Red Bull advertising Mini in Canberra City Centre.jpg
- File:Red Bull car in Le Havre (France).jpg
- File:Red Bull Car.JPG
- File:Red Bull Cola Mini at Piccadilly Circus.jpg
- File:Red Bull Cola Mini in Cleveland.jpg
- File:RED BULL Mini (R55) front.jpg
- File:RED BULL Mini (R55) rear.jpg
- File:Red Bull Mini - Flickr - FaceMePLS.jpg
- File:Red Bull Mini 01 ies.jpg
- File:RED BULL MINI 1.JPG
- File:RED BULL MINI 2.JPG
- File:Red Bull Mini BCN.jpg
- File:Red Bull Mini Cooper S in Flushing.jpg
- File:Red Bull MiNi One 2003 (9168902847).jpg
- File:Red Bull Mini.jpg
- File:Red Bull2.jpg
- File:REDBULL MINI R55.JPG
- File:Voiture pub redbull.jpg
- File:Wuppertal - Vogelsauer Treppe, untere 04 ies.jpg
- File:Рекламный Мини Купер-пикап. Алма-Ата.JPG
Gazebo (talk) 09:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose: this is ridiculous. OSX (talk • contributions) 10:23, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. An interesting case; for now I oppose on technical grounds: images should be split by country and detailed FoP analysis presented for them. In either case, we are looking at a huge potential problem with the parent category Category:Advertising vehicles or even Category:Outdoor advertising, and this discussion should be focused on the big issue. I'll post a question to Commons talk:Freedom of panorama. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 02:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Kept: Please refile on a case-by-case basis, separated by country. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:25, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Files in Category:Minis as Red Bull campaign car
[edit]Derivative work of artistic elements on the vehicles; FOP in the US does not extend to artwork.
- File:2009-04-18 Red Bull car in Durham.jpg
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 01.JPG
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 02.JPG
- File:Boston - Red Bull cars 03.JPG
- File:Red Bull Cola Mini in Cleveland.jpg
- File:Red Bull Mini Cooper S in Flushing.jpg
Gazebo (talk) 09:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- This affects images in every category up to Category:Red Bull itself. There is no reason why this is restricted to the artwork being used on cars. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose. It seems to be a common policy to accept such images per Commons_talk:Freedom_of_panorama#Is_FoP_covering_outdoor_advertising.3F. Also, the case discussed should be all images at Category:Outdoor advertising in the United States, with a correspondingly larger discussion. This tiny discussion should not be used as a sneaky precedent for an instance of meta:copyright paranoia. Please escalate it to all affected images, and notify all affected parties. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 13:44, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose: The logos therein may be copyrighted. However, the images themselves are user-created works. They are merely advertisements. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 05:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment The images contain derivative work of copyright protected material. For countries having FOP I'd say the cars are permanently modified, they are not artwork themselves but they are modified the way they are to be permanently in public space for advertising, so covered by FOP. In this cases, though, the origin country is the US without having FOP for artwork, so I see no possibility to keep them. --Krd 17:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Deleted: per nom/Krd. INeverCry 23:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)