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Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, UpstateNYer!
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Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, MattWade!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Yes, I always categorize my images and typically give them very thorough captions (complete with linking). This one was uploaded recently as an edit for an FPC nom at Wikipedia. I updated it though. upstateNYer 15:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! Sweet. upstateNYer 23:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


White House Picture

I added a new photo to the whitehouse page, replacing the old one on commons. Do you know how I can edit the page so that I'm accredited as the photographer and the author?

Also - for some reason images on image pages now appear in full size when I view them, rather than more convienient viewing sizes. Do you know how I can fix this? HiraV (talk) 21:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Question

Hi UpstateNYer. Is it fine for you if I move User:UpstateNYer/Rollback to Template:User rollback? Thanks, --Kanonkas(talk) 14:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yea, go for it. I didn't know policy here and didn't want to build a template that would ultimately go up for TfD. upstateNYer 14:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
✓ Done. --Kanonkas(talk) 16:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Pieter

Please don't mind Pieter. Sometimes he is OK and sometimes he has fairly strange ideas. I'm sorry I forgot to make my comment here earlier. You can always ask an Admin like Yann or Kanonkas to delete your duplicates if you show your replacement images. It helps you escape the tediousness of a formal DR. --Leoboudv (talk) 07:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. But I did ask Yann and he only deleted the ones that were blatant duplicates (i.e. the exact same file, byte for byte). He didn't delete this or the others I've put up for deletion and gave no explanation as to why. So I was forced to nominate them for deletion. upstateNYer 15:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I did not see that. Yes, that can be a problem. I guess a DR is the way to go sadly. You should say here this is a good faith uploader request and more people will be inclined to vote delete after they see the replacement image. Cheers and congratulations on your great work, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Flickr reviewer!

Good day. As a result of your request at Commons talk:Flickr images/reviewers, I have added you to the reviewers list. Please see the instructions at Commons:Flickr images/reviewers and add {{User trusted}} to your userpage. You can ask me if you need any help. Best regards, --Kanonkas(talk) 12:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks. upstateNYer 15:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your support for my Flickr reviewer request.--Captain-tucker (talk) 00:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem, though I second JulianColton's review. upstateNYer 04:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

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An offering for our new administrator from your comrades...

MattWade, congratulations! You now have administrator rights on Commons. Please take a moment to read the Commons:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and its subpages), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care. Have a look at the list of Gadgets (on the bottom there are the ones specifically for admins – however, for example the UserMessages are very helpful too).

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Good luck. Please ask if you need help... ++Lar: t/c 21:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. upstateNYer 23:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome ...

... for your thanks for my RFA support, and a thank you comin' right back atcha for the support for Flickr reviewer. Daniel Case (talk) 03:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Another county

Hey UpstateNYer, congrats. I've uploaded the maps for Albany county. Example. Feel free to fix anything and add cats (I'm not sure how you like to organize NY). Cheers, ZooFari 20:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

And can you delete this‎ and this? ZooFari 20:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
✓ DoneJuliancolton | Talk 20:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Grrr. I have yet to delete anything! :-) upstateNYer 23:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Go for it! ;-) ZooFari 00:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, ZooFari 21:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

My only issue with the new maps is that they're missing the villages. In fact, they're missing Green Island, which is both a village and a town at the same time. See File:Green Island Albany.png. Any way to include these villages? In Albany County, they are important (many of the villages are essentially mini-cities, like Menands). Sorry to be picky :-/ upstateNYer 06:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Updating won't be a problem, but I need a reference map to do so. Actually, I used this for the reference, so I can use that. I used this high res pic for the border, but the town borders aren't shown. Are those all villages you want or is the map missing some? Also, do you want the villages dotted like the Rensselaer county or normal borders like the others? ZooFari 22:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I'll have to break this down. It's missing some cities, which are essential. Let's do the villages with dotted lines again. Think you can make a map with each village highlighted too? (and maybe do the same for Rensselaer County?)—they each have an article, so the maps would be used:
  1. Watervliet: city (solid border)
  2. Cohoes: city
  3. Green Island: town (solid border)
  4. Menands: village (dotted border)
  5. Ravena: village
  6. Colonie (village): village
  7. Altamont: village
  8. Voorheesville: village
upstateNYer 16:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, but first let's do Rensselaer county to get it out of our way, than we can do Albany. For Rensselaer, the only request is for extra versions for the dotted regions, right? ZooFari 17:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Hoosick Falls
Ok, just so you know, I made a category for each village in Rensselaer and Albany counties: Category:Villages in Albany County, New York and Category:Villages in Rensselaer County, New York. upstateNYer 19:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I'll work on them sometime today. I just came from the Spanish Wikipedia world and my mind is lost (too different)... ZooFari 19:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

+ Valley Falls ZooFari 04:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
+ Schaghticoke ZooFari 04:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
+ Castleton ZooFari 04:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
+ Nassau ZooFari 04:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
+ East Nassau ZooFari 04:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Perfect! upstateNYer 04:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Great, I'll update the versions gallery next. ZooFari 04:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Alright, versions done. Except I can't tell if it really worked. I'm sick of the thumbnail issue. Meanwhile I'm gonna start updating the second county... ZooFari 03:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Of the two conjoined regions on this map, which one is Ravena? ZooFari 18:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, good question. Based on a quick Google Maps search, I'm going to say it's the one that's on the eastern border (on the Hudson River). Their homepage lacks a map, which seems stupid to me. upstateNYer 20:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

The one on the eastern border is Coeymans, the one on the left is Ravena.148.78.249.33 06:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I emailed you yesterday. The matter is important & I would appreciate your reply as soon as possible. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I have posted here. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 08:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Something in your neck of the woods

1759 manuscript plan of attack for the Battle of Ticonderoga, restored.

Hi UpstateNYer, here's an intriguing tidbit of your local history. Several months ago I restored a manuscript British preparatory map for the Battle of Ticonderoga. The lower right hand corner contains detailed attack plans (which weren't actually carried out because the battle went much more easily than expected). After this image got featured another editor raised the article about the battle to FA. Yet these attack plans aren't mentioned in the article text because none of that editor's research sources mentioned them. There's a chance that this primary source has been overlooked by historians in the field; if that's so then the discovery would be worth publishing off-wiki in a reliable source. Even if this isn't quite so new the site has become a historic park; the management would be interested in a restored featured picture and might donate other digitized files to Commons.

It's very difficult to follow up on this properly from California; seems right up your alley though and perhaps a pleasant change of pace from recent events. Interested? Durova (talk) 04:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the consideration, in all sincerity. Right now I have a few articles I'm working very hard on, so don't really have the time to get up to Fort Ticonderoga (even from here, it's quite the distance) or add to its article. And to be honest, the Revolution doesn't really interest me, Dutch colonial times seem to though. Thank you for your kindness though. :-) upstateNYer 05:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually that's French and Indian Wars, but no hurry. BTW am currently restoring a Dutch map of New York Harbor from 1739. Durova (talk) 14:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Redirects from your old ID

At Commons we typically leave redirects from your old ID so as to avoid confusion or give the impression that there is something to hide. I've undone your removal of these. If there is a strong reason not to have them please discuss it, privately if you like (you know my email) ++Lar: t/c 11:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, MattWade!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 04:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Temporary files

Please see Commons talk:Deletion policy#Speedy deleting temporary files. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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Giving it a shot

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Brunswick Rensselaer NY.png. No harm in trying at least. –Juliancolton | Talk 04:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


great job getting wynantskill into the united states main page!

I'm confused? What did I do? upstateNYer 01:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Your picture of the Korean War Veterans Memorial

Hi! I had to delete File:KoreanWarMemorialSnow.jpg, a picture of the en:Korean War Veterans Memorial in Washington, DC. The artwork is protected by copyright and the United States do not allow freedom of panorama for statues (see also Commons:Deletion requests/Images of Korean War Veterans Memorial). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 12:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I was asked to temporarily undelete pictures of the Korean War Veterans Memorial to allow their transfer to the German-speaking Wikipedia, which they apply freedom of panorama to all works in a public place, regardless of their localisation. Your picture may also be acceptable on en: under a Fair Use rationale, so you can transfer it as well. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 21:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Suspended animation

Crats are discussing it and the admins too - but thanks I take your comment with appreciation -

Excellent. I appreciate the kind and respectful response. :) upstateNYer 02:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, MattWade!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

CategorizationBot (talk) 10:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Albany maps

Just in case you missed it, I made a reply to the Albany request. ZooFari 01:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


File source is not properly indicated: File:LathamCircleSatellite.png

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Just stating "United States Geological Survey" is not enough. Please give the complete link to the webpage (html-link!) where this image appears. If you have taken this file out of a book or magazine, then state all relevant information, like author, publisher, title, year of publication, ISBN. Thanks in advance. --High Contrast (talk) 07:29, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you blur out the license plate for that one car? I'm not sure how to do it with GIMP. Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 21:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

✓ Done, hope NYer doesn't mind. Let me know if that works. ZooFari 21:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks Zoo! –Juliancolton | Talk 22:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Although note that the original unblurred version is still hosted. upstateNYer 21:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

has been listed for discussion. --Martin H. (talk) 11:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Nobody's said anything for a month. upstateNYer 14:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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guerreritoboy (talk) 23:05, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

New York

I don't get it! Your user name implies that you're from the upstate New York, whereas the image on your user page shows Times Square (unless I'm mistaken). Lol, it's kind of ironic, in a way. :) Cheers, —stay (sic)! 06:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

I do get out of town every so often. :) upstateNYer 12:39, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Love the Big Apple, esp during the holidays! —stay (sic)! 03:18, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

File:New Paltz station postcard edit.jpg

Hallo UpstateNYer, could you please add the author and date of the postcard File:New Paltz station postcard edit.jpg? In addition a CC license is not correct if you just scanned a old postcard and did minor editing. We must know why the postcard is in the public domain. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:23, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Hadn't gotten there yet by the time you saw the file. Look again. Thanks, upstateNYer 01:25, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
The file uploaded itself? ;-) Thanks - better now. Hope our OTRS did it right at the original image. Do you know derivativeFX I just it most times to upload derivatives. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Yea, I'm not a big fan of derivative FX, so I upload the file myself and put the right information in (more than derivativeFX does). upstateNYer 03:08, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Sure - was meant just as a hint. It has some mistakes.. but with minor manual tweaks its fine for me. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 03:47, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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GrapedApe (talk) 17:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the award. As a marginally talented amateur, I am humbled.

Nheyob (talk) 02:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Commons:Requests for comment/galleries

Please propose the broad principle of your template/collection category approach (a type of gallery, in effect - a "pseudo-gallery" if you will) at Commons:Requests for comment/galleries. Thanks. Rd232 (talk) 01:30, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Schuyler Mansion Plaque.jpeg

Dear Mr. Wade,

On 17 October 2009 I took a photo of the dedication plaque at the Schuyler Mansion, and uploaded it to Wikipedia the next day. It was subsequently moved to the Commons. It appears as if someone using the user UpstateNYer changed the author, so that you are credited with taking this photo. As the photographer (see the metadata) I have changed the photo credit back to my account. If you did not make this change, I would encourage you to change your password.

--Ira Goldstein (talk) 17:04, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

My apologies. Looks like when I went to revert some vandalism, I put myself as the author. I've uploaded photos of Schuyler Mansion and must have assumed I took the photo. Good catch. upstateNYer 21:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Please take a look at how you coded author in [1] from 9 July 2011‎, and let me know why that happened.--Igoldste (talk) 23:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Not sure, must have been among other uploads and I must have copy+pasted incorrectly or something. No harm meant. upstateNYer 03:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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Comments Nice. --S nova 08:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Elks Pin

✓ Done -- πϵρήλιο 00:59, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

The template has undergone massive revision. I noticed you had a number of ideas for the template looking at the talk page. Feel free to review it. :) -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 22:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I do not understand this edit and 449 similar ones. Why are you adding non-existing templates? --Jarekt (talk) 14:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Trust me, I didn't make those edits just to waste my time. :) The template was deleted after (what I would call) a non-consensus-creating deletion request. upstateNYer 20:08, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Is it correct?

Hello!

One question to the native speaker: Is the lemma of Category:Winter in Niagara Falls in correct English? Do you have an idea if there is a better alternative for "Winter in Niagara Falls". I think of something like "Winter in the Region of the Niagara Falls" or something like that. Regards, High Contrast (talk) 16:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

The image File:Eastman Kodak HQ 1900.jpg, which was produced or uploaded by you, has been nominated for featured picture status at Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Eastman Kodak HQ 1900.jpg. Good luck! King of 09:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Hi UpstateNYer! I just wanted to say great work on the restorations you have done on maps. I stumbled across one today and used it to illustration the David H. Burr articles. Thank you! Sarah (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the surprise kudos! upstateNYer 20:01, 25 May 2013 (UTC)