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Bad science

Given Commons:Deletion requests/File:Energy levels of hydrogen atom.png, you probably are a like-minded person wrt me. Could you, when had some free time, look at User:Incnis Mrsi/Science and Technology?

Happy New Year! Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: Thanks. Interesting work, good luck with it.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:12, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Last warning

I have made several useful contributions. Was not familiar with a very particular copyright issue and uploaded a photo of posters I had taken. Why are you giving me the last warning? Is this how you make a positive impact? --Eh kia (talk) 23:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Hossein Amanat - Azadi Square - Azadi (Shahyad) Tower - Tehran - Earlier 1970s

Hi

I provided the necessary information for the photo.

Please let me know if there are other information required.

ThanksShkuru Afshar (talk) 10:01, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Shkuru Afshar: Exactly where did you get this photo? Who took it and when? Who scanned it 11:05, 3 October 2007? Who photoshopped it 04:18, 15 October 2010?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:04, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Original photo was printed in 1970s and located in Historical Museum of Azadi Tower Tehran. He took this picture from himself after September 1971 opening ceremony of the tower and scanned it in 2007 and sent it to BBCPersian for an article about him published in 2007.

RegardsShkuru Afshar (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Shkuru Afshar: Given that information, why did you decide that it was a good idea to post "{{Information |description={{fa|1=حسین امانت، معمار برج آزادی (شهیاد) تهران در دهه 1350 خورشیدی}} |date=2007-10-03 11:05:16 |source=Unknown |author={{unknown|author}}" in this edit?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't sure if source should be himself or Historical Museum of Azadi Tower Tehran. And the date should be scanned date or the date that it was taken. In Iran, date of taking photo is considered as the Date which I always provided provide it in filenames, based on Gregorian calendar. On the other hand, if you copy my Persian description in Google translate, you will notice that I have provided information about its origin, in Persian language.

ReagrdsShkuru Afshar (talk) 15:06, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Shkuru Afshar: Google Translate somehow got "1950s Solar" from what you wrote, a couple of decades off.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:11, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

This is because Iranians know the story and Solar is a wrong translation. خورشیدی means Solar Hijri calendar. I suppose provided information are enough.

RegardsShkuru Afshar (talk) 15:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Shkuru Afshar: That makes little sense to me, Google Translate should convert to Gregorian dates when converting to English language. Wikimedia Commons is not just for Iranians, but for humanity everywhere, as assisted by machines. @Magog the Ogre: What do you think?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

You are right. Wikimedia Commons is for anybody. This is why I always provide filenames with Gregorian calendar date because Google translate can't convert it. Use a professional date converter website. For example Between April to December of 1971 in Gregorian will be converted to 2nd to 9th of 1350 in Hijri. Following to that, 1970s will be equal to 1350s.

RegardsShkuru Afshar (talk) 15:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

It's actually a decent idea. I think you mean it should convert to Gregorian dates into Persian dates, right? The date field indeed properly internationalizes for various languages. A few considerations:
Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:21, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks! Cd4 ch (talk) 22:47, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
@Cd4 ch: You're welcome! However, please be aware that Template:UserboxCOI is a Wikipedia thing, it doesn't exist here.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Racism, traffic problems

Racism is a form of discrimination based on racial theories and Category:Discrimination is already included in the Category:Social problems. The reduction of social interaction caused by traffic problems can be a temporary problem or can result in "chronic" social isolation, which is a separate social problem. I wonder where I am going wrong.--Cats' photos (talk) 12:01, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Cats' photos: For one thing, you are not explaining your edits in your edit summaries. If you remove a cat (category, not feline) because it is a subcat of an existing cat, we have a one-word explanation, "overcategorization", or "overcat" for short. Is that what you have been doing?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:12, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I promise you that I will follow your advice and I will explain my edits until now, but you should answer to my arguments.--Cats' photos (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Code issues in User:Jeff G./common.js

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Code issues in User:Jeff G./common.js

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File:Bori (30530322012).jpg

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File:Street Woman (19879711711).jpg

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Kulmalukko (talk) 22:10, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Kulmalukko (talk) 11:14, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

{{Dw no source since}}

There is a discussion related to one of your edits. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

By the way. While you are searching hard-working illustration designers for minuscule attribution problems, on Commons:UDR guys who bluntly and blatantly stole images can be easily found. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:28, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Indra_swara_awal.jpg

Hi Jeff G, please teach me how to present to the otrs, to show that i have the copyright from the owner, and i have the right to publish this image :-) many thanks --Rafaelsantino (talk) 17:53, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Rafaelsantino: Photographer Luz Montero should read OTRS and submit an email via that page granting permission for https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fitra_ismu.jpg in the form specified at COM:CONSENT.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:24, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
ok tks :-) --Rafaelsantino (talk) 18:37, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@Rafaelsantino: yw :-)   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 19:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Hiiii

Hi,

I wanted to check in and see how you are doing. Artix Kreiger (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: Well, thanks. You?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 21:11, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Answer restore coat arms

hello dear jeff I'm writing to tell you that I am a3cb1 I have to tell you how many times, you have mistaken me for another, and this does not authorize you to ignore me but rather discuss together to find a solution to end once all of this persecution against me, for having mistaken me for that vandal, which I personally know him sincerely, and you have every reason why I can tell you that he is a great indifference to everything. ^ _ ^. I would like you to review my uploads so that my contribution can be accepted. Thank you and good day User: Lûgnûg --95.244.103.69 10:56, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Yann, Vituzzu, Krd, Elcobbola, and Guanaco: your opinions, please?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Asked and answered dozens of times. --Krd 11:12, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Here's my reply ;) --Vituzzu (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you both.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I also added a local on the /18 range for a month. It's been helpful before. Эlcobbola talk 17:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Keysight logo.svg

You missed the point. I reacted to a pseudo-mathematical woo, not to disagreement. Are you aware of some basic facts about the space of polynomial functions of any degree? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: I know a graph of a sine wave when I see one, even if it is distorted in amplitude near the center. I've seen them on oscilloscopes, too.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Hola

Necesito subir este escudo a wikicommons, ya que solo consta de trazos y figuras geométricas. Elías (talk) 16:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Matt Shear.jpg

Jeff, I'm curious why a CC 2.5 license for the Matt Shear.jpg isn't allowed when your contributions are available under CC 2.5, according to your user talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgstaggers (talk • contribs) 16:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)Mgstaggers (talk) 16:51, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Old question

A while ago you replied to my question on the help page. It was about removing a category redirect. You requested sources and I gave them. Nothing has happened since then and the question seems to have disappeared. Any news? The question was posted on January 7th and it was about Verbenaca clandestina. --Lies Van Rompaey (talk) 06:16, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

@Lies Van Rompaey: zonet zag ik je vraag met betrekking tot de Verbenace clandestina. Misschien kan je eens de raad van Meneerke bloem vragen. Hij zal je ongetwijfeld helpen indien mogelijk. Lotje (talk) 13:02, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Lies en Lotje, ik heb nagekeken. Voor beide de Amerikaanse ARS-GRIN taxonomie en de KewScience World Checklist (R. Govaerts, 2017) is Salvia clandestina L., Sp. Pl. ed. 2: 36 (1762) een synoniem van Salvia verbenaca L., Sp. Pl.: 25 (1753). Sorry dat ik jullie niet verder kan helpen. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:49, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
@Meneerke bloem: , bedankt voor de toelichting. Lotje (talk) 13:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
@Meneerke bloem: en @Lotje: . Bedankt voor de hulp en de toelichting. Jullie zijn de eerste Belgen die ik hier ontmoet ;).
@Lies Van Rompaey: It was archived to Commons:Help desk/Archive/2018/01#Removing category redirect?, sorry I couldn't help.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:04, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

380 uploads and no rate limit

from what I can tell, the 380 uploads is l imited to 72 minutes. The limit becomes 999/sec, if i recall correctly, if one is autopatrolled. Artix Kreiger (talk) 04:18, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: Thanks.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:22, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Geocoding

@Jeff G.: Through Wikipedia's media deletion process, I would like to remove the photos that I uploaded containing geo-coded information on the condition that I will upload the same two photographs again but without geo-code data. Is that valid grounds for image deletion? If needed, I can upload the same two photos again before the existing duplicates are removed. Could I try this? CartleR255 (talk) 17:22, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

@CartleR255: You can just overwrite them, and remove my additional text and templates, but why would you want to?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:18, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: The geocode data on the photographs is incorrect. In one case, it is a close approximation of the actual photograph location; but in the other case, it is grossly inaccurate -- an error in the neighborhood of 20 miles. This erroneous geodata is due to the use of a third-party application in tandem with the device's camera when shooting the subject. The application failed to accurately identify and report the location of the photographs. Thus, it is for this reason that I wish to have the geocode data removed, for the sake of accuracy and correctness. Belatedly, I realized I should not have uploaded the photographs for educational use because the accompanying metadata is not entirely accurate. Since discovering this problem, I have discontinued use of the application. Additionally, I was asking about uploading the same file without geodata into Commons such that the existing copy can be speedily deleted as a duplicate. I may try this solution as there is no valid objection against it and it is for a reasonable and beneficial purpose. Any other suggestions? -- CartleR255 (talk) 20:06, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@CartleR255: After overwriting, you could ask for the original versions to be removed for the reason above.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 20:24, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi: FYI.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 20:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I am going to overwrite the files. Subsequently, which template do I use to remove the old versions? CartleR255 (talk) 20:30, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
@CartleR255: Good. For each file, I would put {{Edit request}} in a new section on the file's talk page, and below it ask for the original version to be hidden or deleted using the reason above. We don't have a file description page template that does this job yet, the closest is the (inappropriate in this case) {{Unfree frame}}.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 21:19, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello I'm here to handle this request. But there are some issues. @CartleR255: 1. The JPG got recompressed, please use an EXIF tool!? 2. The Geocode data seems correct. -- User: Perhelion 08:00, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
@Perhelion: 1. I will reedit using an EXIF tool with the original copy of each image and I will use EXIF in the future. Do you need me to re-upload? 2. The geocode data is off by 20 miles for two images and only off by a few meters for the other image. I would consider that erroneous. -- CartleR255 (talk) 14:10, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Posting issues

Hey Jeff, I've seen you all over the place and decided to reach out to you directly in order to get something fixed. I have a .webm and .ogv file (same video, different formats, just in case) that is essential to a Wikipedia page that I'm planning on updating. The upload keeps getting refused by the automatic vandalism blocking system, and I was wondering if you could help me out in any way.

Thanks a lot!

Levyballs (talk) 21:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

@Levyballs: You may apply for the Confirmed user right at COM:RFR#Confirmed. You may also be able to upload using an ISP that does not support Wikipedia Zero.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 06:44, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Nehru Stadium Coimbatore without grass.jpg

Jeff, don't put impersonal templates on my talk page with no explanation: [2]. We've interacted a few times and I think helped each other, so plonking a robotic template instead of actually typing a message is, in my opinion, lazy and quite rude. I don't think I'm the first person to complain about you communicating via template instead of like a human being. It's disappointing from a long-term colleague.
As an additional note, I think you should have left the copyvio tag for an admin to assess. The image is clearly not "own work", and I've spent a lot of time trying to get this user to edit properly, here and at en.wiki, which this somewhat undermines. In all, you've disappointed me here today, and condescending, faux officious little notes like this [3] don't help much either. -- Begoon 11:15, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Begoon: I'm sorry. I was put off by your tone in your summary of this edit. Template:Delete specifies exactly how to neutrally notify people that would be interested in a DR, without a hint of canvassing. Also, you should know better than to write on a file's talk page when the file is at an active DR. I created the DR because the uploader was objecting to speedy deletion. I invited you to comment there because you hadn't yet done so, and I didn't want to call you out for writing on the file's talk page.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:56, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
"Also, you should know better than to write on a file's talk page when the file is at an active DR."...what? I'm not aware of any such thing. Regardless of that I had several tabs open and that message was posted in response to the uploader before I was even aware that you had removed the speedy tag. (notice that I only saw and removed your template 2 minutes later...) Anyway, you might enjoy pointless wikilawyering about this kind of thing - I don't. As to the "tone" of my edit summary, yes it was strong, but if you had spent as much time as I have trying to help this particular user, here and at en.wiki, I'd permit you a little exasperation in the circumstances... -- Begoon 15:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Some texts on file talk pages have been missed by DR closing Admins, and they disappear on delete closes, so I learned long ago not to bother to write there anything I want considered at DR or kept on the record of the DR after closure.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Pinging @Begoon: sorry.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Ah, so a practical thing, not a policy thing - I don't really disagree with the logic, but since I didn't "write there anything I want considered at DR or kept on the record of the DR after closure.", but rather just an ephemeral, of the moment, reply to the uploader, all seems well. -- Begoon 15:53, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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