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Merry Christmas!
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Happy New Year, ~riley!
~riley, a new year is like a blank book, the pen is in your hands. It is your chance to write a beautiful story for yourself!
Happy New Year 2017. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 18:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use datasets on Commons. You can see an example that is using this source. [1]
- There is a new opt-in beta feature of a wikitext mode for the visual editor. You can try it out.
- When you update a page with translations on wikis with the Translate extension the existing translations will be marked as outdated instead of removed. [2]
- The new version of MediaWiki was released to all wikis last week (calendar).
- MoodBar has been removed from the Wikimedia wikis. [3]
- The
live
option for the Tipsy notice tool has been removed. Gadgets and user scripts which use it need to be updated. [4]
Problems
- Editors who use Firefox 50 might get logged out or fail to save their edits. This is because of a browser bug. Until this is fixed you can enter
about:config
in the address bar and setnetwork.cookie.maxPerHost
to 5000. Firefox 50 is the current version of the Firefox. [5]
Changes this week
- There is no new version of MediaWiki this week because of the Wikimedia Developer Summit.
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19:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now upload WebP files to Commons. [6]
Problems
- video2commons was down for two weeks. This was because of a problem with Commons video transcoders. It is now back up. [7]
Changes this week
- There is a new magic word called
{{PAGELANGUAGE}}
. It returns the language of the page you are at. This can be used on wikis with more than one language to make it easier for translators. [8] - When an admin blocks a user or deletes or protects a page they give a reason why. They can now get suggestions when they write. The suggestions will be based on the messages in the dropdown menu. [9]
- You will be able to use
<chem>
to write chemical formulas. Before you could use<ce>
.<ce>
should be replaced by<chem>
. [10] - You now can add exceptions for categories which shouldn't be shown on Special:UncategorizedCategories. The list is at MediaWiki:Uncategorized-categories-exceptionlist. [11]
- The "Columns" and "Rows" settings will be removed from the Editing tab in Preferences. If you wish to keep what the "Rows" setting did you can add this code to your personal CSS:
#wpTextbox1 { height: 50em; }
You can change the number50
to make it look like you want to. [12] - Sometimes edits in MediaWiki by mistake are shown coming from private IP addresses such as 127.0.0.1. Edits and other contributions logged to these IP addresses will be blocked and shown the reason from MediaWiki:Softblockrangesreason. This should not affect most users. Bots and other tools running on Wikimedia Labs, including Tool Labs will receive a "blocked" error if they try to edit without being logged in. [13]
- When you edit with the visual editor categories will be on the top of the page options menu. [14]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 January. It will be on all wikis from 19 January (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on January 17 at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can see a list of the templates on a page you edit with the visual editor. [15]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 January. It will be on all wikis from 26 January (calendar).
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20:14, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Changes this week
- ElectronPdfService will be enabled by default on Meta and German Wikipedia. This is a new way to get articles as PDF files you can download. It will come to more wikis later. [17]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 31. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from February 1. It will be on all wikis from February 2 (calendar).
Future changes
- The Community Tech team will develop more tools to handle harassment of Wikimedia editors. The goal is to give the communities better tools to find, report and evaluate harassment. They will also work on more effective blocking tools. [18][19]
- The Wikimedia technical community is doing a Developer Wishlist survey. Developers can propose ideas before 31 January 23:59 UTC. This is soon.
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18:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- The block log sometimes showed blocks as being much longer than they were. This has now been fixed. [20]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia pages will now be better at showing pictures when you share them on social media. The descriptions will be different too. You can see an example of before and after. [21]
- There are some changes to the OOjs UI. Some old functions will not work anymore or not work as they used to. This could be a breaking change. [22]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Tidy will be replaced later this year. Instead, the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This will cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. You can see if your wiki still has something to fix here for one of the HTML problems. This list does not cover all problems. You can read about more problems. [23][24]
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19:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. For now it works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. [25]
Problems
- The Firefox add-on Firefogg can cause problems with the Upload Wizard. This will not be fixed, because Firefox will not support Firefogg in the future. The Upload Wizard will no longer work with Firefogg. [26]
- Tool Labs and Wikimedia Labs databases will be under maintenance on 15 February. This will start at 17:00 (UTC) and last for about six hours. Some tools could have problems during or after this. [27]
Changes this week
- The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It will come to Meta and German Wikipedia this week. It is already available on MediaWiki.org. It will come to more wikis later. [28]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on the Catalan, Greek, Russian, and Italian Wikipedias in the middle of February. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. It will come to more wikis later this spring. [29]
- The Developer Wishlist is a list where developers prioritize tools they need. The voting closes at 14 February 23:59 (UTC). This process is only for developers.
Review
- You can read the 2016 product summary from the Wikimedia Foundation Product group to see what they did with things they said they would work on in the annual plan.
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18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Hallo, I just came across an image
listed under Boek, which is a small settlement in Müritz-Nationalpark in Mecklenburg, I think this image showing a book cover should not be there, but a former deletion request has been waived. It seems that a user from the netherlands has used his word for "book" (boek) as a category for book. As I did understand, usually categories in commons should use the english language. Would be funny, if we Swiss would start to enlist images under Swiss german expressions... Maybe, it should be moved to "book" or deleted anyway, as it seems not really helpful - at least not when looking for images of "Boek, Mecklenburg-Vorp.", kind regards from Switzerland Martin - Mboesch (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The edit summary box is now a little bit bigger. This is to make it follow the Wikimedia design guide. [30]
Changes this week
- Page Previews will be updated on 23 February. This fixes many bugs. Page Previews can be turned on as the Beta Feature called Hovercards. [31]
- There has been a problem where the CSS of gadgets has been loading twice. The Gadgets extension has two new options:
type
andpeers
. Thetype
option solves this problem. You can usepeers
to create gadgets with more than one style module. Read more about type and peers. [32] - OAuth will handle blocked users in a more consistent way. [33]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 February. It will be on all wikis from 23 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On 22 February the wikipedia.org portal did not work for an hour. This was because of a problem with a JavaScript file. [34]
Changes this week
- You will be able to use
<chem>
to write chemical formulas in the visual editor. Previously this only worked in the wikitext editor. [35] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can soon upload 3D files to Commons. The file formats are AMF and STL. The plan is for this to work later this week but it could be later. [36]
- The name "Wikipedia" will be more obvious at the top of the page when you read Wikipedia in the mobile view. This is because many readers don't realize they are on Wikipedia. [37][38]
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19:55, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now search on English, French, Hebrew and Greek wikis and find words even if you forget the diacritics. It also works if you use diacritics in your search but the wiki doesn't. [39]
- When you use the mobile view and click on a link to an article in another language you will see that article in the mobile view. Previously it changed to the desktop view. [40]
Problems
- Some watchlist gadgets didn't work for a period of time last week. This has now been fixed. [41]
- Admins who click on "mass delete" on a user's Special:Contributions will be taken directly to a list pages created by that user. It has worked like this before, but not lately. [42]
Changes this week
- The way you switch between wikitext and the visual editors in the desktop view has changed. It is now a drop-down menu. This is the same as in the mobile view. [43]
- The "flag the edit in the abuse log" checkbox will be removed from the abuse filter interface. This is because the edits are always flagged in the abuse log. [44]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Clarification
- The 2017/09 issue of Tech News mentioned 3D file formats you can soon upload to Commons. The AMF format will be available later.
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23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- You will be able to show references from
<references />
tags in more than one column on your wiki. This is the list of footnotes for the sources in the article. How many columns you see will depend on how big your screen is. On some wikis, some templates already do this. Templates that use<references />
tags will need to be updated, and then later the change can happen for all reference lists. [45][46] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some old web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis in the future. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [47]
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. [48][49]
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15:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Please delete them it's a redirect of File:Singer 208 cc 1902 (02).png. I can't tag as speedy. --2003:DE:3D1:8E2:C1EF:B46:74E6:65E9 05:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you...
... for processing my edit requests. --Arnd (talk) 06:33, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Save page
button now saysPublish page
orPublish changes
on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.Publish page
is when you save a new page andPublish changes
when you edit an existing page. [50] - DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [51]
- You can see monthly page views when you click on
Page information
in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [52] - The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [53]
- The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [54]
Problems
- On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [55]
Changes this week
- When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut
Ctrl
+Shift
+X
on PCs orCmd
+Shift
+X
on Macs. [56] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [57]
Problems
- Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [58][59]
Changes this week
- New filters for Recent changes will be released on Portuguese and Polish Wikipedias and MediaWikiwiki on March 28. Other wikis will get it progressively. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and, on certain wikis, user intent prediction.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from March 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from March 29. It will be on all wikis from March 30 (calendar).
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14:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Save page
button now saysPublish page
orPublish changes
on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.Publish page
is when you save a new page andPublish changes
when you edit an existing page. [60] - The tracking category Category:Pages with template loops is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template. [61]
- English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [62]
Problems
- Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed. [63]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Dutch, Russian, Turkish, Czech and Hebrew Wikipedia on 11 April. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and user intent prediction. User intent prediction means the filter tries to help editors determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [64]
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17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Tidy is going to be replaced with an HTML5 parsing algorithm. Bad HTML in wikitext would cause problems on a number of wikis. There is now a ParserMigration extension on all wikis that you can use to help clean this up. You can read more about how you can use it. [65]
Changes this week
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [66]
- New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [67]
- The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters. [68]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
- RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.
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18:34, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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Ritsa Lake rename issue
~riley sorry that I didn't notice that there were two filemovers involved, it is strange to me why first file-mover declined it, my requested name is 100% correct and better see article en:Lake Ritsa and en:Lake Smaller Ritsa, there are Greater and Smaller lakes. I think you can agree that this name is better for such a good photo.--g. balaxaZe★ 12:05, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- I was very concentrated on my request diffs and the last rename diff, that's why I missed that pre-rename decline, like a fool =).--g. balaxaZe★ 12:14, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can add
?safemode=1
to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1
. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [69] - You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList. [70]
- The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from
[[File:Wiki.png]]
. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [71]
Problems
- Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.
Changes this week
- There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
- Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [72]
- From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [73][74]
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19:32, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- New filters for recent changes are now available as a beta feature on most wikis. You can turn it on in your preferences. Remaining wikis will have the new filters on 9 May. [75]
- When administrators, bureaucrats and stewards make a user a member of a user group they can now set an expiry date. A user group is for example "administrators" or "bots". This means that they can give someone user rights for a limited time. This is similar to how blocks and page protections can be limited in time. Special:UserRights will have new options for this. You can read more about user groups. [76]
Problems
- Since the data centre test last week the content translation tool has been disabled. This is because of a database problem. It will be back as soon as the problem has been solved. [77]
Changes this week
- The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [78]
- Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [79]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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16:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for delineating the limits under which I may run VFC. I'm sorry, I had forgotten to update User:JeffGBot since my first Bot Request. I updated it while you were closing this Request. Mass DRs would be limited to 499 files if all uploaders were different, right? — Jeff G. ツ 23:28, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: Mass DRs should be broken up as follows: by same uploader or same category if not posted individually. The reason I recommend this is because as an admin, a mass DR with any more than 75 files is a pain in the a** to deal with. If I can be of any help with anything bot related, let me know. ~riley (talk) 23:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks again. FYI, this page has 51 sections and renders at 328 kB. To take care of bot postings I've read, I typically delete them or reply to them to get them archived. — Jeff G. ツ 00:09, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- This one approaches that limit, I hope it's ok. — Jeff G. ツ 03:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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Deleting redirects
Is there a reason you're tagging redirects for deletion[80] and breaking image use across our projects[81]? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Magog the Ogre: That single edit was over a year ago, and that request was likely made because I disagreed with "frog.jpg" redirecting to one of ~4,500 species of frog. I don't see my connection with CommonsDelinker removing the image across all those wikis, that falls on the deleting admin:
09:04, 18 February 2016 CommonsDelinker (talk | contribs) . . (18,957 bytes) (-67) . . (Removing "Frog.jpg", it has been deleted from Commons by Taivo because: Unused and implausible, broken, or cross-namespace redirect: author's request on creation day.)
- I am sorry for any error made, I can only guess at what I was thinking last year. ~riley (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oh gees, you're right, I thought it was only two months ago. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Closure
While I appreciate it is a brave admin who gets involved in this issue, one comment in your closing remarks is neither a summary of the consensus nor does it reflect an endorsement of Michael's analysis and conclusions. Michael created a sub-section so specifically reject the idea of interaction restrictions because they are not suitable for Commons and nor suitable "between two active and experienced editors, both of whom would legitimately like to express their opinions on discussion threads that are of significant interest to the community." His comments to me specifically state "there is no requirement on one editor to avoid the other". Odder has also, in previous discussions on this, rejected interaction restrictions as being a cop out that does not deal with the issue. No other editor (Odder, Slaunger, Jee, Pokefan95, Nick) made any suggestion that my edits recently are improper or require restriction. My desire is simply that Fae treats my edits with the same respect and consideration as edits from any other user. That is fundamental to a community wiki. I would ask you to reconsider those comments. I don't believe my edits in 2017 justify any kind of sanction, warning, threat or editing restriction. -- Colin (talk) 07:41, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Just for clarification, Commons:Administrators states: "administrators have no special editorial authority by virtue of their position, and in discussions and public votes their contributions are treated in the same way as any ordinary editor.". When closing a discussion, especially when closing in your role as admin, it is vital that your closing comments reflect only the community consensus. If, for example, you wish to add your own personal recommendations/observations, then you have to do so as a regular editor in the discussion, and permit time for involved parties to respond if they wish. Using a closure to "have the final say" with your own viewpoints, particularly when they are in direct conflict with the consensus, is not permitted. I really think it would be best if you remove that sentence, as Michael notes below, as it is in contradiction with your endorsement of Michael's conclusions. Thank you. -- Colin (talk) 10:10, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi ~riley, I've just seen your closure, and I agree that action was called for to prevent the discussion getting out of hand. I wonder, though, if I could ask you to reconsider and remove the sentence "You are both invited to stay away from each other before one or both of you are blocked or a non-voluntary interaction ban is imposed". I specifically excluded a non-voluntary interaction ban in my conclusions. Even though you've used the word 'invited' it does give the impression that you, as the closing admin, are in practice imposing a de facto interaction ban as you are are threatening future blocks merely for interaction. That's not a fair summary of either my conclusions or of Odder's. Many thanks. MichaelMaggs (talk) 07:55, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the closure. I have no problem whatsoever with "stay away from each other", as I have already not replied to any question from the other party for a year. The only issue with an early close is that I have yet to have a reply from the Bureaucrats with regard to MichaelMaggs conflict of interest in this case, and they are not known for responding quickly. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MichaelMaggs: My apologies, the enwiki user in me came out where an interaction ban would be the next step before a block if punishment were needed. I have retained my invitation for Colin and Fae to go your separate ways. @Colin: My inclusion of you in my now-striked warning was indirect to either party and as such you shouldn't feel the need to defend yourself, at least with me. @Fæ: This discussion was ripe for closure, in my mind you also forfeited your right for the discussion to continue by going on leave. ~riley (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate that. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:57, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, though if it all the same to you, I may decline your invitation, for reasons stated at the AN. Since I'm no admin or curator of other's files, anyone is welcome to restrict their edits to File: namespace if they want me to "forget all about" them, but otherwise their comments, proposals and votes on Common and User pages are there for me, you, Michael, and others to agree or disagree with as they are for any other person in this project. Nobody is special, and nobody can prevent inconvenient people, such as we see attempted with Michael, from playing their role on the project to the fullest extent. -- Colin (talk) 18:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- As I was not consulted on availability, nor process, my travel arrangements seem irrelevant. I remain available by email, which I can normally pick up even when abroad. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 17:39, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Fæ: You picked a bad time to start a COM:AN thread then, Fæ. As Pokéfan95 pointed out, nobody forced you. ~riley (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. I should have settled for being tried in absentia, by someone I know to have a conflict of interest using a process that nobody defined. Thanks for the closure, hopefully the other party will take care, in the same way that I have done for the last year. --Fæ (talk) 18:10, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Fæ: You picked a bad time to start a COM:AN thread then, Fæ. As Pokéfan95 pointed out, nobody forced you. ~riley (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)