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DZwarrior1 (talk) 12:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

She's my relative. She got killed in action in the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. The photo of her has been on her tomb erected at Powązki Cemetery in Warsaw, Poland since 1955. A cemetery is public location, isn't it. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katarzyna_Borowi%C5%84ska Taurus234 (talk) 13:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

This category is now having no files, as all look like migrated to Category:W as VV, no idea if the previous one can be {{Category redirect}}ed to later one or not? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:11, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

  • Obviously not, as they are different concepts, fully symmetric. If it’s empty, it should be tagged with {{Prospective category}}. It is likely, though, that it is empty because its contents were wongly moved due to misunderstanding of both categories vis-a-vis each other, and those misedits should be identified and undone ASAP. I would further ask you to futurely start this kind of discussion in the relevant file or category talk page, not in a user’s talk page. -- Tuválkin 04:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Eliminação?

Oi Tuvalkin, tudo bem?

Estou um pouco ferrugento nas regras de eliminação aqui do Commons, podias dar-me uma ajuda com uma coisa?

Encontrei duas imagens que acho serem redundantes: File:Restauradores metro station (40463484690).jpg e File:Fools Errand Trying to visit (41549050054).jpg.

A segunda é simplesmente um crop da primeira, mantendo a mesma resolução.

Existe alguma regra de eliminação aplicável nestes casos? Obrigado! Cmpts, EuTuga msg 18:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Parece-me que este caso está liminarmente relacionado com {{Duplicate}}, mas havendo duas imagens originais em separado, é melhor criar um DR (enlace q diz «Nominate for deletion» na barra lateral) — se achares que realmente vale a pena o trabalho. -- Tuválkin 03:46, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Pois, era isso que eu queria tentar evitar. Pronto, deixa ficar. Obrigado. Cmpts, EuTuga msg 19:53, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Ricky81682 (talk) 08:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Kanglei Barnstar
For your positive contributions to Manipur and Meitei related files, you deserve the Kanglei Barnstar! :) Haoreima (talk) 12:45, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Trout

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

You opened yourself up to being trouted. :)   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 12:48, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Hehe, you’re misusing it, though: You need to link to a diff with the troutable offense! -- Tuválkin 12:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, no such parameter is supported. Do you want to be named "Tuválkin"?   — Jeff G. please ping or talk to me 13:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I’m good with either. As for the trouting, {{{1}}} is free text, so it can include a diff. (Later:) Hm, that’s exactly what you did… So, maybe inviting easy trouting is troutable? -- Tuválkin 21:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Anthroponyms

Hi. I don't understand your comment on your user page about anthroponyms and WD. Isn't the WD entry just a number, with a separate form in each language? So the Hungarian form of a name could be in the order FAMILY - GIVEN. How would that corrupt Commons? Kwamikagami (talk) 01:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you didn’t understand. -- Tuválkin 01:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Portaroumm

Caro Tuvalkin, prazer em comunicar consigo aqui no Commons, é pena não ser em melhores circunstâncias. A imagem de Meleças que foi colocada pelo Portaroumm foi retirada do Street View da Linha do Oeste. Aqui está a imagem original, que é claramente igual. Obrigado e melhores cumprimentos, -- Ajpvalente (talk) 20:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Obrigado @Ajpvalente: já corrigi o DR. -- Tuválkin 21:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

BSicon categories

‎91.55.174.38 (talk · contribs) has been messing around with categorization. You have a better handle on them, as you did much of the organization when we were fixing the icon catalogue. I've fixed a bit of his misguided changes, but (as much as it'll be time-consuming) would you mind checking/fixing what they've done? Thanks! Useddenim (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I did notice some activity, but presumed it was one of us working unlogged and didn’t check what’s up. I will now. Thanks for the head’s up! -- Tuválkin 16:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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RZuo (talk) 13:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Category:ꝰ

Why does Category:ꝰ belong in Category:Us (text)? Josh (talk) 18:57, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

See here. -- Tuválkin 20:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Excellent, thanks for the info. Josh (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Why did you revert GOTOkey(ZXSpectrum).jpg ?

Hi !

may i know why did you revert this edit ? https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:GOTOkey(ZXSpectrum).jpg&oldid=prev&diff=653113445

Did i made a particular mistake ?

Sincerely Miniwark (talk) 07:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@Miniwark: I presumed it was an error that’d need no further dicussion or comment: That one tight crop of a larger one showing an utilitarian object on a featureless background is the epitome of what an “art photo” is not.
Didn’t you do it by mistake? Then one of us is worng about what {{Art Photo}} is for. Maybe it’s me and it is not specifically meant for artistic photos? Eitherway, I am not convinced that assorted file info templates is a better solution than generic use of {{Info}}. If that’s the case, then I should have not rolled back your edit wordlessly, but if a discussion is warranted, it is vaster than the matter of that particular file and should be held centrally. If such discussion already took place, please point it out to me.
-- Tuválkin 08:06, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Humm probably my mistake in this case, i was converting the outdated {{Object Photo}} to {{Art Photo}}, and was thinking because the source image is {{Art Photo}} then this derived work is too. {{Info}} will do the job for this one i think. Thank for your help.Miniwark (talk) 08:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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Tuval pesticide

Hi Tuvalkin,

while fixing Tm's mess you've made a funny mistake: [1]. Tuval means w:Chlormequat in this case.

Kind regards, --Mormöse (talk) 16:02, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

✓ Done. Mormöse, why didn't you fix it yourself? --Achim55 (talk) 16:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
@Achim55: An anti-abuse filter was limiting me. Not my fault!--Mormöse (talk) 16:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it! Funny or not, it was a mistake. (And this image came to my attention due to the same kind of autocomplete mistake, having been dumped in my temp. user cat.) -- Tuválkin 17:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
@Mormöse: I am not fan of Tm’s half of the time, but in the history of this file I cannot find any edit by Tm that is in any way questionable. -- Tuválkin 05:02, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

for your l.ste*iev violations with jeff G. payback will be bl*ody!already is on smart.reviews!

amen! Tolstoytales (talk) 15:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Go get psychiatric help, you sad freak. -- Tuválkin 18:59, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Rosenzweig τ 20:30, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I don’t remember what’s my connection to that photo — maybe I just cropped it or something. Eitherway, no qualms. -- Tuválkin 19:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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Meanwhile fixed: It was a matter of "]]" instead of "}}" making the licence unparsable and misrendered. -- Tuválkin 19:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Bilhetes

Sabes porque raio é que andaram a apagar imagens de bilhetes aos montes? Ligaanet (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Não sei de nada. Pode dar-me uns exemplos? -- Tuválkin 00:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
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Commons:Deletion requests/File:Subway ticket Lisbon .jpg Ligaanet (talk) 18:36, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Pois tou a ver. Bom, a Ellywa tem razão — aquilo não se presta a isenção de copyright por via da simplicidade do desenho. Eu ainda tentei o ângulo de se tratar de um objeto produzido em massa, mas parece que isso não é critério para aferir se algo está em domínio público.
A única safa q vejo pra isto é fotos tipo esta ou esta, onde se pode argumentar q o bilhete é incidental no enquadramento, configurando uma situação de minimims.
(E estes farejadores de copyvios que não descubram o que ainda sobra aqui ou aqui…!)
-- Tuválkin 19:16, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Confesso que não consigo alcançar onde é que uma fotografia de um objeto pode infringir o copyright do objeto. É que se formos por essa lógica não pode haver fotografias de nada a não ser de paredes e árvores. Se tirar uma fotografia ao meu carro estou a infringir copyright por ter lá a marca do carro? lol Ligaanet (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Pois é, a legislação internacional sobre o copyright não é para perceber. Mas é para cumprir, e aqui no Commons e nas Wikipédias só cumprindo-a à risca é que estamos seguros de garantir que se trata de conteúdo isento de ilegalidades e assim apto para distribuição livre. Nota que qs ninguém aqui é entusiasta deste estado de coisas: Isto é visto como uma lei injusta cujo cumprimento à risca é feito a contra-gosto.
A maneira como a legislação internacional sobre o copyright nos afeta aqui e em projetos análogos (e também coisas como um barbeiro q tem música a tocar sem licença lá no estaminé e leva da ASAE por isso uma multa mais severa do que se andasse a pôr ao pescoço dos clientes toalhas mal lavadas) parece — e é — contraditória e kafkiana por que se lhes aplicam as notas de rodapé e os por-conseguintes de uma legislação que afinal tem sido cozinhada para servir as grandes gravadoras e os grandes estúdios, nomeadamente a Disney, cujo modelo de negócio começou a deixar de fazer sentido quando apareceram as cassetes, e que hoje em dia é um castelo de cartas que subsiste apenas à custa desta mesma legislação e de hablidades tecnológicas tipo DRMs e regiões DVD.
De legislação sobre copyright conheço o suficiente para saber que sei muito pouco, e para saber que nem quero saber mais, e para saber que é uma fantochada pegada. Se quiseres saber mais, aconselho-te material sobre o assunto neste blogue: https://ktreta.blogspot.com/search/label/copyright — eu deixei de lá ir qd o Krippahl “tomou a pílula vermelha”, mas tem lá coisas muito bem vistas sobre esta temática.
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Category:Edifício da Empresa Pública de Abastecimento de Cereais (EPAC) (Viana do Castelo)

Caro Tuvalkin, tenho estado em discussão com o Tm no sentido de utilizar uma solução alternativa para este problema: simplesmente colocar Mercado Municipal de Viana do Castelo como nome da categoria. Parece-me a opção mais lógica, considerando que é a presente utilização do edifício. Melhores cumprimentos, -- Ajpvalente (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Acho ótimo! -- Tuválkin 21:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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No contention, I just cropped it. -- Tuválkin 21:55, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Comment on the VS revert

Hey there,

So I noticed that you made a comment along with your revert https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Ligature_%22VB%22&oldid=prev&diff=705733664&diffmode=source

I didn't realize that I was re-reverting your change. My apologies. Smasongarrison (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Error?

Is File:BSicon ueCINT-R(l).svg or File:BSicon uxCINT-R(l).svg incorrectly coded? Different file names but same thing. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 02:39, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@Minorax: Re   (uxCINT-R(l)) and   (ueCINT-R(l)), well spotted. I corrected the matter. -- Tuválkin 20:19, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Category:Lisbon tram 785 on Commons

Hi Tuvalkin, I see that you have undone my edit on Category:Lisbon tram 785. However I don't see any connection between this category (which is empty) and Category:Global Village (Dubai). Could you provide a clear and reliable source (not Twitter) about this? Thank you. Greetings Mario1952 (talk) 09:18, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

I know that car nº785 is there, as explained in the cat page. To prove it, there’s five links on that page (of which only one if to twitter.com), which is exactly five more than the usual sourcing done for categorizing. Basicly, you can either trust that former CCFL car nº785 is where they say it is, or you can find proof of the contrary yourself. -- Tuválkin 09:31, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Addition of Category:Decibel symbol ("dB") to File:Magnetic field element (Biot-Savart Law) PRIME.svg

I reverted your addition of Category:Decibel symbol ("dB") to File:Magnetic field element (Biot-Savart Law) PRIME.svg because dB is a differential with no connection to the decibel scale. And thank you for helping us out on Commons.Guy vandegrift (talk) 05:03, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. -- Tuválkin 05:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
However, you didn’t revert my edit, apparently. Feel free to do so, of course. -- Tuválkin 01:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I see you're an active Commons:License reviewer. The EN article Kae Miller is up for Good Article nomination, and the reviewer is waiting on two images that I uploaded to be reviewed. I'm a fellow License reviewer, but obviously can't review images I uploaded myself. Would you be so good as to stamp, and thereby confirm that

are properly licensed at https://www.maxrashbrooke.net/the-good-society/kae-miller ? Max Rashbrooke is an author and her grandson. https://www.maxrashbrooke.net/more-about-me I also asked User:Animalparty a few days ago but I guess they're busy with other things. Thank you! --GRuban (talk) 17:40, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done, and congrats on the article, too! -- Tuválkin 18:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you. Honestly, the article is all Susun. She sometimes lets me help her with images, since I know something about those, but I have no real GAs to my credit, while she seems to write one of those every morning before breakfast or something. --GRuban (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

your letter-combinations-categories

Hi Tuvalkin, a number of originally created-by-you categories have been tagged for speedy deletion for being empty by 3rd party. Do you contest that or agree to? --Túrelio (talk) 17:48, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

@Túrelio: Thanks for letting me know! I had noticed, but I have no contention in general: Most of those SD markings are correct (I challenged the ones that were not) and these categories are trivial to recreate or (better) to undelete when needed. There is however one thing bugging me: I know I didn’t create empty categories, therefore this situation means that either a lot of files (mostly logos) has been deleted recently, or that a lot of files has been uncategorized recently, which is not a good thing. I have all categories I created in my whichlist, however, and I don’t recall any recent indication that files have been removed from them — quite puzzling. -- Tuválkin 20:43, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
@Túrelio: Aha, found the rat!! Now, all we need is to undo all the vandalism excreted by this LTA (in this an all other IPs) and then revert all the speedy cat deletions. Oh joy. -- Tuválkin 23:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
But this IP-edit was from 2021. The speedy-tagging was by Allforrous. So, the latter shall be reverted? --Túrelio (talk) 09:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, meanwhile I saw that — and also that I had patrolled all edits by this one IP back then except, for no reason, the uncategorization of the AXA logo. I think this cat was indeed empty for 2y and Allforrous is not tagging recently emptied cats.
Some of these letter combinations cats were created by this same person under numerous IPs back then. These are the reamining cats that were either completely correct (very few) or that were corrected by me or others — but they mostly remained empty because, albeit correctly formed (in terms of their parent cats via template), no contents were found for them in the meanwhile.
Most of the work of this person (typography-related categories and categorization) could not be salvaged in this manner as it was 100% nonsense.
Thanks again for warning me.
-- Tuválkin 09:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Anyway, for now I've reverted the speedy-tagging of the cats that had remained undeleted this morning. There may be a few which I had deleted 2 days ago, before becoming aware. In addition, mainly yesterday I had deleted a number of similar cats, of the type "Letters ** on vehicle registration plates", that were unrelated to your editing. --Túrelio (talk) 09:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
I noticed, thanks and sorry for the extra work! I’m trying to populate these, instead of having them laying about empty for another 2y. -- Tuválkin 09:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Help?

You recently helped me and GRuban on an article about Kae Miller and now I am in need of another assist and have no clue how to do that. In trying to document information about his mother, a non-editor did not understand my instruction to e-mail me so that when I replied he could send the document in question. He uploaded it to commons, but in our discussion via subsequent e-mail (I can send it to you, if needed), he concurred that it probably shouldn't be a document available for the world to view. My concern is that it is a legal document that could allow someone to steal her identity, thus I believe it needs to be removed ASAP. Can you help? SusunW (talk) 15:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SusunW: I was aaway for a few days but meanwhile your plea above was heard and File:MC Nygard Naturalization Paper Image.jpg was deleted by @Túrelio: He’s a keen admin! -- Tuválkin 18:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank y'all so much. I had no clue who to ask, but hoped someone might see my query if you were away and help. I appreciate your skill. SusunW (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

José Antonio

Hi Tuvalkin, are you sure about that? I've no knowledge about Portuguese names, but a WikiData-entry for that name exists. --Túrelio (talk) 08:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

There are no “double names” in Portuguese onomastics, I am sure of that: Most of us have two given names, but those are in free combination and it makes no sense in categorize those random pairings as units (with some specific exceptions); I tried to fix this back when, was reverted (by people who admittedly also had «no knowledge about Portuguese names»), I moved on. This issue with given names, however, is lesser than the unrepairable mess that plagues Portuguese surname categorization in Commons (ditto concerning my efforts in fixing it back then), one also contaminated by WD’s unstoppable torrent of poorly curated data. -- Tuválkin 08:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Ok. I've deleted Category:José António (given name) now. However, I couldn't even remove this cat from all cats, where is was used, because in some it was "combined" with a year. --Túrelio (talk) 10:25, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your trust. Combining generic name cats with by-year cats is unexpected indeed. -- Tuválkin 10:57, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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Minoa (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

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You have deleted my mistakes in the past. Here is another one Category:Clear Lake Lookout Towner. Thank you so much, Krok6kola (talk) 00:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

You can replace its contents with {{speedy|empty; typo in name}} or some such, or you can even do nothing and it will be dully deleted for being empty. -- Tuválkin 00:24, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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Sun/gold symbols

Hi. I think it's good you separated these out from 'solar symbol', but generally any contemporary solar symbol was used for gold. I think the only exception among the files in our cat is probably the biennial symbol, since that's specifically botanical. Kwamikagami (talk) 00:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that will have to be addressed futurely: I think this and other such symbols should/could better categorized. That cat rename I made was only one small step in the right direction, I think, as I’m currently working on the modern element symbols instead, but it will be eventually picked up, by me or someone else. -- Tuválkin 00:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I don't think it matters, just wanted to be sure you were aware. It's just a label, and as long as people understand what we mean and don't clutter it up with other stuff, the label is unimportant. Kwamikagami (talk) 00:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Boylarva99

Has boylarva99 answered you concerning your complaint? Or is he continuing without answering? JMK (talk) 23:29, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

I’ve had no contact from him concerning both matters where we interacted recently. I read your comment in his talk page concerning similar antics, though, and it seems that the has an habit of going around messing disparate categories with no sense nor accountability. Should you open a an AN/U report, please let me know so I can add to it. Meanwhile it seems safe to just revert his wrong edits — that worked for me before. -- Tuválkin 00:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Red categories

Why are you adding nonexistent categories (e.g. Category:CSD letter combinations, Category:EYA letter combinations, Category:"Fm" standing for fermium etc.) to files? Leyo 16:32, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Concerning the first two, the edit histories of the affected file pages will make it clear that this is me cleaning up previous miscategorization as part of a work in progess. Concerning fermium, it’s about me skipping by mistake one category out of 118 — thanks for letting me know. -- Tuválkin 16:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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Go ahead. I merely cropped it in the past, have no stake in it. -- Tuválkin 17:18, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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I didn’t upload this image and have nothing to say about its copyright status. My name shows in its history because I helped disentangle an incorrect overwriting of it. -- Tuválkin 04:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi Tuvalkin, this comment was unnecessarily rude without adding anything constructive to the discussion. Please consider COM:CIVIL. This applies also to those who do comment using an IP address. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 04:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

What was rude about it? Do you mean the wording I used was rude? — however I merely reused it («incredibly weak») in response to the previous comment that contained it… Or do you mean that what is rude my opinion, by itself, that unlogged users have no place in Commons discussions? -- Tuválkin 04:52, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi Tuvalkin, the concern by the IP that the name of the depicted person was still in the version history was an important point. Describing this valid concern as “incredibly weak” in combination with your remark against the participation of IPs was indeed rude. See COM:CIVIL#Identifying incivility, point 1d, “belittling a fellow editor”. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 05:12, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for replying, @AFBorchert: I presumed my points, meant as constructive, to be clear and obvious. Let me try again:
  1. The name of the depicted person still in Commons being an issue, it should be fixed, as suggested, by deleting the revisions still holding it, not by deleting the file. This is akin to ask for deletion of a file because it is miscategorized or lacks a description. A weak argument indeed.
  2. The name of the depicted person being available in archived pages, both ours and the original military website’s — well, also not a reason to delete, then, as it wouldn’t accomplish the desired disappearence. Another weak argument.
  3. The name of the depicted person in this filepage being an issue, yet it is visible in other photos from the same source (both in Commons and in the original military website), as reported in the DR. However, nobody is asking for its removal there, too (yet). Is it beceause this is just all about acquiescing to the loud (and very rude) o.p.?, or because nobody on the deletion side even noticed? Again — weak argument.
  4. Does terming some argument «incredibly weak» constitute a case of sanctionable rudeness? I’m sure you find much worse every day in Commons discussions: do you go to the talk pages of all those involved admonish about COM:CIVIL?
  5. I repeat that the phrase «incredibly weak» was first used in this discussion not by me but by the IP I was replying to. If you really think it’s rude — are you going to warn similarly the one who first uttered it? No, you’re not — you cannot because that person is not logged in and IP addresses are volatile. And that leads to the crux of the matter:
  6. Who is a «fellow editor»? Can an IP be one? Even if the same IP address is consistently used throughout a specific discussion, how can dialog be mantained? There is a lack of guaranteed persistence, and there is the matter of legibility — IP numbers, either hex or dec, are not use-friendly handles and would not be acceptable as a user name. Furthermore, when IP addresses exhibit knowledge of the project’s work as done behind the scenes, such as DRs and indeed most discussions and talk pages, “fellow editors” experience that uneasy feeling that one might be interacting with an experienced editor, otherwise unlogged — and therefore incurring in abuse of multiple accounts and playing everybody for fools. As an admin, doesn’t this worry you? That was my point when questioning the legitimacy of the comment I was answering to — I’m sorry that it come out as a personal attack, but how could it not, even if I had used the mildest of wordings?
  7. But could I have used a phrase milder than "put up with"? I could and I should, and I would if I were to do it again. It wouldn’t change the matter at hand, though — that the mere presence of IPs in a discussion is a source of mistrust and uneasiness, no rudeness required.
I appreciate your input. (I will add points 1-3 above to the DR, since I was not clear about what I think are the «incredibly weak» arguments.) -- Tuválkin 13:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
I make it short as the discussion about the DR belongs into the DR. Adding actual reasonings as you did here is fine and was exactly what I was missing in your initial reply. Thank you for this. All comments in a DR should add something constructively to the discussion. Just saying “weak argument” without rationale but with an argument against the poster (in this case the poster being an IP) appears to be rude. Yes, IPs are allowed to comment in our DRs. Propose a policy at COM:VPP if you want to block IPs from commenting in DR discussions. The hint by the IP that the name is still visible in the revision history was not “weak” but an important point which caused me to check this and to hide those revisions. --AFBorchert (talk) 15:24, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded a Majeerteen flag there is misunderstood between yours and File:Majeerteen sultanate flag.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by QalasQalas (talk • contribs) 2023-08-17 12:42:21 (UTC)

See your talk page under #Flag. -- Tuválkin 13:13, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hello! I'm the author of this upload. Can you, please, review it and keep it, since I has updated the license? --Yeeeep nooope (talk) 09:01, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Better talk about this file in its talk page or in the DR about it. -- Tuválkin 10:55, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
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No qualm. I just cropped off the background once. -- Tuválkin 20:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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15:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

And our favourite quasi-vandal is at it again, creating hundreds of implausible and problematic icons that are likely to never be used. Useddenim (talk) 19:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

(I wish I had file deletion privileges. Useddenim (talk) 20:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC))
You can open a Deletion Request… but that might attract unwated attention from deletionists keep on deleting all BSicons that are not in use… Yikes! -- Tuválkin 21:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Hehe, I can see myself making use of   (vKRZo-v-), for one, but cannot say that about   (xveSHI1lKRZv black)… -- Tuválkin 21:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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I'm not sure I named these correctly:   (kv-KRZv-2+ro) &. Useddenim (talk) 18:42, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

These two seem to be accurate descriptions, and it’s not surprising that unusual icons have unusual names. It seems that both these names are furthermore productive, stemming logical variants to name corresponding variations in the icon topology — so it seems that this is okay. -- Tuválkin 15:21, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
That said, I’m not so sure about the extra k in   (kvKRZ-kvc3o). Does it matter? Would it be any different with a single k? -- Tuválkin 15:23, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes it does matter, because a k corner is different from a uw corner. (I couldn't find it before, but I'm pretty sure the there's some KRZ+c icons that make the differentiation.) Useddenim (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Actually, it would only matter if there is both a curve and a corner in the icon.
However, as there are both inner and outer kv corners – cf.   (kvSTRc3) &   (kvSTR-c3) – I'm not sure if this icon should be renamed to clarify which corner it is. (The - is part of the through parallel line.) Useddenim (talk) 00:26, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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Go ahead: I don’t even remember this one. -- Tuválkin 15:23, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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Ohio Street Beach, Chicago is an Olive?

Good day. I don't know why Category:Ohio Street Beach, Chicago is an "Olive street". Perhaps some explanation? Wondering, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Brainfart. I blame alphasorting or some such. -- Tuválkin 01:37, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. I guessed it might be a mistake, but thought I'd ask in case it was an historic name or some other explanation. Thanks for your work. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:26, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Likewise! -- Tuválkin 17:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Numbers on trams

I just noticed that Category:Numbers on trams contains subsets named "Number n on trams", while Category:Trams by fleet number contains subsets named "Trams with fleet number n". It seems that there is a 100% overlap and some rationalization should be done? Useddenim (talk) 13:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Numbers on trams can be also route numbers, the other major subset ("Tram routes designated n"), and a few miscellanea that are neither. No fundamental rationalization needs to be done, although some dissmination is always necessary and often dully done, by me and others. -- Tuválkin 06:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Restrict DRs to logged in users?

Tuvalkin, Has ever been a proposal to restrict DRs (deletion requests) to logged in users only? You mentioned it here: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Lauren Daigle @ The Novo 05 11 2023 (53048156413).jpg Thanks, --Ooligan (talk) 03:10, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I mentioned it many times. As far as I know, no such proposal was ever filed formally. -- Tuválkin 06:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Where would be the best place to propose this idea as a "policy?" --Ooligan (talk) 08:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Maybe Commons:Village_pump/Proposals. -- Tuválkin 08:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Ok, thanks --Ooligan (talk) 08:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hi. I see that you have done a lot of editing on this template. Apart from it really needs some documentation so users can utilise it appropriate, it is spawning red links which are not obvious how to fix. Page Category:9F letter combinations creates red links to a see also, which is not ideal. I would have thought that these could be overwritten (no docs), or they would be tested to not appear if the target page did not exist. Would you be able to look at and resolve? Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 20:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I’ll try to add some documentation ASAP. Category:9F letter combinations (and a few such others) has red links because "9" is not really a letter and {{Lettercombo}} was never meant for it: Its current scope is basic Latin, Greek, and Cyrillic letters — other scripts can be used as needed, but combos of letters and digits, while categorization-worthy on their own, should be categorized manually or using a different, maybe broader, categorization template. The redlinks could be avverted in the code, but adding a lot of expensive #ifexist calls seems to be worse than just undo do those misuses of the template itself. Please note that unexpected use such as in Category:9F letter combinations is mostly due to the edits of one prolific but exceptionally clueless IP user, whom reverting is as fascinating as it is tedious when it has to be done multiple times a week. -- Tuválkin 12:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Memo: See Template talk:Symbolcombo — work to be done there. Also, images of “funny” Cyrillic and Greek letters needed to avoid flagging at Category:Category pages with broken file links. -- Tuválkin 21:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I see that you have done a lot of editing on this template. Apart from it really needs some documentation so users can utilise it appropriate, it is spawning red links which are not obvious how to fix. Page Category:9F letter combinations creates red links to a see also, which is not ideal. I would have thought that these could be overwritten (no docs), or they would be tested to not appear if the target page did not exist. Would you be able to look at and resolve? Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 20:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I’ll try to add some documentation ASAP. Category:9F letter combinations (and a few such others) has red links because "9" is not really a letter and {{Lettercombo}} was never meant for it: Its current scope is basic Latin, Greek, and Cyrillic letters — other scripts can be used as needed, but combos of letters and digits, while categorization-worthy on their own, should be categorized manually or using a different, maybe broader, categorization template. The redlinks could be avverted in the code, but adding a lot of expensive #ifexist calls seems to be worse than just undo do those misuses of the template itself. Please note that unexpected use such as in Category:9F letter combinations is mostly due to the edits of one prolific but exceptionally clueless IP user, whom reverting is as fascinating as it is tedious when it has to be done multiple times a week. -- Tuválkin 12:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Memo: See Template talk:Symbolcombo — work to be done there. Also, images of “funny” Cyrillic and Greek letters needed to avoid flagging at Category:Category pages with broken file links. -- Tuválkin 21:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Question

is possible to upload this logo please:

https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/6953/hk-bosna-lisice/2017-2018

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HK_Bosna#History Loptač01 (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

It’s not {{PD-simple}}, but better ask at COM:Copyright. -- Tuválkin 23:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Purpose of some categories?

Hi. I am wondering on the purpose of the categories such as Category:BSicon/chronology/uploads/2006-11, especially with all their dead images that turn up in maintenance cats. If they are created and curated pages, wouldn't they be more main ns pages rather than cats, which are dynamically populated. Thanks, their purpose is not evident to me.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:37, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

I really don’t remember. Maybe I created these cats to match a wider set by someone else, with these few as redlinks, and later that set was deleted? Maybe discuss at Talk:BSicon/Categorization. -- Tuválkin 02:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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-- ZandDev (talk) 02:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Category discussion warning

BSicon/chronology/uploads/2006-11 has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Category discussion warning

BSicon/chronology/uploads/2006-12 has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Category discussion warning

BSicon/chronology/uploads/2007-01 has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Generic roads

As the initial creator of this subset of BSicons, would you mind writing an explanation of their naming for BSicon/Catalogue#Naming logic please? I am creating some rather complex new icons, and I would like to make sure that they are named properly to avoid adding confusion to the existing rules. Useddenim (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Some refinement of naming is needed. Consider   (RP2ensRP1)   (RP2ensRP2.1)   (RP2ensRP2). Useddenim (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Category discussion warning

BSicon/chronology/uploads/2014-03 has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

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 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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BSicon/chronology/uploads/2014-04 has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


 — billinghurst sDrewth 23:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Template:VehicleColors creating errors

Hi.. Are you able to look at this template as its use is throwing errors into Category:Category pages with broken file links. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Looks like unexpected colors were used. Some are easy to fix, like "gold" instead of "golden". For things like "crimson", either we remove the template from the cat page and manually add the suitable parent cats, or we fiddle with the template to add the missing colors. I’ll try the latter, although the code has become much harder to parse after Minorax changed <tt to <span. -- Tuválkin 13:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Oops, but that caused an admin’s edit to be reverted, even though I didn’t use the "revert" button. Next time I sneaze funny, this will be brought to ANU as mounting evidence of my unwillingness to team work or some such. -- Tuválkin 14:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Hmm, lots of problem cases in Category:Category pages with broken file links caused by stuff I created. Mostly easy fixes, it seems, though. -- Tuválkin 13:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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🏺ⲈⲨⲐⲨⲘⲈⲚⲎⲊ🏛️ ⲱⲑⲏⲥⲁⲧⲉ 10:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

No qualm, I just cropped it. -- Tuválkin 16:00, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Дми́трий Мара́тович Евтуше́нко artworks

Hello,

It looks as though all of the works that Dmitryevtushenko uploaded have been deleted from Wiki Commons. Unlike last time, where they were proposed for deletion and you were able to step in, this time they were simply flagged as uncredited and then deleted 7 days later. Would you be able to request to restore these items? It looks like Wiki Commons needs an email from Dmitry to do so?

Let me know if I can help! --141.149.53.253 00:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Não é mania pá

Viva, O AWB corrige automaticamente as sort key para caracteres basicos ascii ,🫡--JotaCartas (talk) 01:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

E corrige mal: Se a lista de subcats sobre edifícios dentro de cats sobre arruamentos estiverem agrupadas encabeçadas sob "№", entende-se logo q é o número da porta, se for "N" fica um mistério. -- Tuválkin 02:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
E por falar em caracteres básicos ASCII, isto é mesmo assim? A banda \ é realmente um caractere básico ASCII, mas não me convence. -- Tuválkin 02:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)