User talk:JarektBot/2010

is it too hard...

...to understand, that the original description by the Bundesarchiv not has to be changed as an historical document like here? Please undo the changes there as fast as possible. Marcus Cyron (talk) 04:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I did not noticed that some of the replacements were made in the Bundesarchiv no-touch part of the description. I will fix. --Jarekt (talk) 03:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

All fixed. --Jarekt (talk) 04:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately you didn't fixed all changes like here (the original title only mentions the christian name of the photographer, not the first name. the same here - we only know the last name (although we ASSUME that the photo was taken by Herbert Ahrens, but we have no proof). Please also fix all photos in the Category Photos by August Ahrens as fast as possible! --Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 22:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I double-checked all the changes within the do-not-touch-zone were undone. I changed all Stempka images but I left all August Ahrens ones. See Category:Photographs by August Ahrens. --JarektBot (talk) 04:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

---Why don't you change the Ahrens-photos? See Marcus Cyrons comment from 4 February 2009 (UTC). Also: where is the proof, that the full first name of "A. Ahrens" is "August"? Do you find documents and / or pictures in archives? The Federal Archives have only the abbreviation. - People regard documents of the Federal Archives as authentical historical sources. Changes are a kind of historical misrepresentation and manipulation, so please: revert your changes! --Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 12:01, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Photo credits of Warsaw Uprising photos found in "Berliner Zeitung" Nr. 15 from 1944-10-19 list the photographer as August Ahrens. --Jarekt (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Blocked

This bot was stoped following Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Vandalism#JarektBot_.28talk.C2.A0.C2.B7_contributions.29. Please comment there. --Martin H. (talk) 10:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Template Lifetime

Hi, I have see this edit. It's wrong, because I used the Template:Lifetime which add in automatic DEFAULTSORT (third parameter).--B3t (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I have never heard of {{Lifetime}} it is used on less than 200 categories and it unfortunatelly hides DEFAULTSORT so it is hard to test if a category is missing it or not. It seems like large fraction of categories in category:People by alphabet were missing it and my bot was trying to add it if not present. Also I was there a problem with having it? it is redundant but at least it is clear that it is there. --Jarekt (talk) 19:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Today's Bad Edits

My bot did some bad edits today. I am cleaning it up. See here --Jarekt (talk) 01:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Problem with last names

I have left a message detailing the issue at "Commons:Village pump#Asked: bot for DEFAULTSORT". — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 09:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT

There's a problem here: [1]. The bot is not leaving the last name as the sortname. Moondyne (talk) 01:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I corrected this instance. See discussion here about details of this run, but the short version of the story is that after some issues were raised that some names should be in the (name1 name2) order and some should be in (name2, name1) order, than it was decided to sort them by hand into which category should use which style of sorting. The pages used for sorting are here 1, 2, 3, 4. So far the work was mostly done by User:Havang(nl), but we would like much broder participation. User:JarektBot only implements what user decide. And in this instance I agree that the (name2, name1) sorting style should have been used. --JarektBot (talk) 01:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. Keep up the good work. Moondyne (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

JarektBot misbehaving!

Hi!

I found out that on hundreds of my uploads (botanical drawings from the 19th and early 20th century) your bot has been active. I presume there is a reason for that, although I can't figure it out. Unfortunately, on some files, like this, there is added or moved " }} " (end-of-template) which completely ruins the layout of the page. Will you please stop using this bot, at least on pages that I uploaded or edited? And can you be so kind as to revert all of the edits your bot made to these pages? I can send you a copy of my watchlist, if that can be of any help to you, but I warn you: it's really a very long list!
I hope you correct your misbehaving bot!

Greetings,
Maarten Sepp (talk) 07:27, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Please look at page history here

Valuable info is deleted. Please stop this nonsense, if you're not able to write a good bot than don't try it! No hard feelings, though, I presume you intended to do something good, but it should be best if you could revert all of these damaging edits.

Gr., Maarten Sepp (talk) 09:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Maarten, My bot is adding Creator templates to PD-Art files using {{subst:}} parser function. I run it on over 100k files by now and it only misbehaves if there are [[links]] with end of line inside them in the author field. That almost never happens, except (so far) for a few files of yours I found. Once I noticed that I stopped my bot and I corrected all your files with that problem, but I guess I missed some. I will go through your files and try to fix this problem again. Please see other edits of my bot in last week to see what it was supposed to do. --Jarekt (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this problem! I'm very glad with your explanation, it really improved my mood! If you missed some or the bad edits, that's no problem at all, sooner or later I'll see them and can correct them myself. Kind greetings,Maarten Sepp (talk) 06:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I am quite sure I corrected all the cases where {{Information}} template was broken. The second type of problem caused by "|Author=|Author=" was more tricky. I modified my bot to recognize it in the future and corrected all the cases I have found. --Jarekt (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again for your quick action. Maarten Sepp (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Header change

Hi Jarekt, unless you count on doing the other 8 million pages, would you remove this from your replacements ( == {{int:license}} == → == {{int:license-header}} == ) ? -- User:Docu at 05:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

ok --JarektBot (talk) 22:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Not only code cleanup

Hi, sorry to stop your bot, but please do not make edits that have no visible effect like http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:AisleOfPines.png&diff=prev&oldid=37895212 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Airship_types_1920.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=37895195

Ok. See here for related discussion. --JarektBot (talk) 22:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Not doing anything?

Hi, something is not working, see http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Anuncia%C3%A7%C3%A3o_-_Catedral_Bas%C3%ADlica_de_Salvador_-_Bahia.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=37934526 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:AntonioRV%C3%A1zquez_de_Mondrag%C3%B3n.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=37934391 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:AntoniodeUlloa.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=37934377

I know about those and can not prevent them. See Template_talk:Creator#Adding_creator_templates_to_the_pages_that_do_not_use_them_.28again.29. --JarektBot (talk) 11:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Use of {{int:license-header}}

Hi Jarekt, I think your bot is not running. So I post here. Please do not use {{int:license-header}} your bot is actually the only bot, that uses this new created template. I think the creation of this template was the completely wrong implementation of a bug request I was involved. Please considere the use of {{int:license}}. Empijbot statet the use of this older template and added it in about 2 Million Images. It is simply not wise to undo all these changes, when there is a much more simple solution: Simply change the one other use of the template, in the upload form. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Me again :-). As you use AWB like my, there is the option Skip if "only minor repleacements made". You can use that option to implement the code-cosmetic changes mentioned 2 sections above. Check the "Minor" Button after the corresponding replacement tasks and you can do these changes. But if no other is done it will skip the page. Happy botting. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

And again :-). I forgot it so I mention it, if you use Skip if "only minor repleacements made" you should add all the three general skip options Skip->No changes are made, Only whitespace is change and Only casing is change. Otherwise the bot will save other automatic code cosmetic without any of the other changes and that should be prevented. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I am quite confused about those headers. I will ask on Village Pump about it. I think text of {{int:license-header}} is better than {{int:license}}. I do not think there is a need to change existing ones but AFAIK it is preferred format. Thanks for tips about minor changes I will try them. This particular run is extra tricky since for many files I am using "OriginalAuthorLine" logic (see here). As a result I am making a lot of edits which after substitution end up with the same page text as the original and which does not count as an edit and does not shows up in the file history. However as a result I can not use skip options like Skip->No changes are made, Only whitespace is change and Only casing is change, since as far as AWB knows I am changing a lot. I am also getting some whitespace only changes this way too. --Jarekt (talk) 17:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Tanks for the answer, unfortunatly I cannot help you with your AWB own modules, as I only use AWB and hope it does what I want ;-). Please keep me posted on the use of int:license-header, if there is a decision. As long as there is no decision I use int:license, as it is used Millions of times, it is even better to live with the colon, than to change 3 Million images. --Schlurcher (talk) 18:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Double cat

JarektBot added a category that was already attributed to the image through its main category hierarchy. It's no big deal, just pointing out it might not be useful. --Pethrus (talk) 07:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I was only replacing category added by creator:titan with category added directly to the image while fixing autocategorizing creator page. If images were overcategorized before than they will still be afterward, but this time it will be possible to fix it by hand. --Jarekt (talk) 12:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. --Pethrus (talk) 13:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Double vertical birth/death categorization

Hello, your bot has added a creator template to his category. I think the {{Creator}} template automatically adds birth/death catogories (by year) and maybe reduces them if already contained in category. But this one category was already listed in new specific month birth/death categories, so now it is vertically listed twice (Category:1883 births × Category:November 1883 births, Category:1933 deaths × Category:January 1933 deaths) and I do not know how to remove only categories for years. Thx for helping. --Gumruch (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Canary Wharf is not a person

You added Category:People by name to Category:Canary Wharf, but it isn't a person. I reverted your edit. edward (talk) 23:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I was adding Category:People by name to subcategories of Category:People of the United States by occupation which did not have that category and which sound like peoples names. I somehow missed that one. --Jarekt (talk) 03:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Whitespace removal

Was it intentional for this edit to only remove whitespace?--Rockfang (talk) 12:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

No this script was adding Museum:Louvre to files and mostly skipping files without {{Information}} or {{Painting}} templates. I will try to improve it before running again. --Jarekt (talk) 15:42, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sutton Hoo helmet

Hello Jarekt, your useful bot did this. It added the information about the location of the object shown on the picture. But actually the object is not located in the British Museum, the object is only a replica of an object located there. And the picture was taken in East Anglia. Could you explain how the bot works? Thank you --Ziko (talk) 13:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Bot was adding Museum:British Museum infobox to files in subdirectories of Category:Collections of the British Museum. I thought I verified all sub directories to ensure that they do contain objects from the museum, but I missed Category:Sutton Hoo which should have been excluded. I cleaned it up. --Jarekt (talk) 13:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Painting

Hi your bot think Bassar Frieze 1052.jpg and dozens of others are paintings .... they are scupltures and lack any paint in modern times Victuallers (talk) 10:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

See template:Painting: "{{Painting}} is an alternative to {{Information}} template used for the description of images of artworks, especially those residing in museums or galleries" --Jarekt (talk) 01:48, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

gallery parameter

Why did the Bot remove the gallery parameter in [2]? --UrLunkwill (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

That is very strange I am not sure why it was processed twice either. I also can not reproduce it same image (with reversed change) and the same script. --Jarekt (talk) 03:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Édouard Manet - The Artist (Detail of the dog).jpg Duplicate parameter

Hi JarektBot, The bot adds a weird double parameter here which screws up the page –Krinkle^talk 22:44, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

a few more –Krinkle^talk 22:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Last Febuary/March I went through all the files in PD-old and checked if given author has a creator page and when he did than added it. See here for source code. I think it doubled the number of Creator pages, but with some fraction of images the code did not worked correctly. I did not see this problem before. I checked all Manet files and fixed another dozen. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 04:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

add DEFAULTSORT

I noticed that this bot wrongly added DEFAULTSORT for many Chinese people. The family name of Chinese is at first, like Wang Jingwei's family name is "Wang", not "Jingwei". So it should be {{DEFAULTSORT:Wang, Jingwei}}, not {{DEFAULTSORT:Jingwei, Wang}}. Please fix this problem. Thank you. (Besides, if a Chinese descent person have a western name, he/she will put the family name at last to blend into the western tradition, like Gordon G. Chang.)--Stevenliuyi (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello! I'm also Stevenliuyi's side. I consider these defaultsorts are misunderstanding about Chinese name. I hope correct these mistakes immideately, JarektBot. --天竺鼠 (talk) 08:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Same problem with Japanese names, and with - at least - one band's name (Taj Mahal Trio -> Trio, Taj Mahal). --Tsui (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Please stop adding Defaultsort!Your bot has serious problem!--天竺鼠 (talk) 22:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of the order used in Chinese and Japanese tradition - it is always one of the issue when adding DEFAULTSORTs. As I was explaining in Commons:Bots/Work_requests#adding_defaultsort_to_Category:People_by_name the work is usually done about once a year and it takes several steps:

1. Find categories missing defaultsort (there were about 10k of them)
2. Split the list in a spreadsheet into 4 groups:

• Names needing "last word first" sort order
• Names needing "first word first" sort order
• Names too complicated for the bot
• Asian sounding names

1. Add defaultsort to first two groups
2. Process last 2 groups with help from other bots or human volunteers (still to be done).

If there are any issues with the edits it is not due to the bot but due to my mistakes of separating 10k names, you can see all 4 groups on user:Jarekt/a. I will cross-check categories to which I added "last word first" sort against subcategories of Category:People of China by occupation (same for Japan) and change them to "first word first" sort. Other than that If you give me list of categories I missed I will be happy to correct them. --Jarekt (talk) 04:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Replacement

Hi, in [3] the bot replaced official Esperanto form "Rusujo" to unofficial *Rusio*. It shouldn't change translations that are previously embedded manually, could you please correct it? Anyway, what source does the bot uses for the translations? Thanks, --Petrus Adamus (talk) 22:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I am using interwiki links, and article name for Russia on Esperanto wikipedia is eo:Rusio. If it is not correct please correct it there first. --Jarekt (talk) 03:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

It is a bit complicated: there are more forms, the ones are official, the others are unofficial, tolerated but more used. Because there are Esperantists preferring the ones and also others using the other forms, there was a voting in the Esperanto Wikipedia that decided individual users may use their preferred form and the others shouldn't change it on a concrete place. Because most articles about countries founded several Esperantists preferring the unofficial forms, the titles remained unofficial. Nevertheless, there are also some official titles mixed, such as Egiptujo. So, unfortunatelly there are two systems mixed in the titles, it is not good to copy the unhappy state to Commons. When a human user understanding the problematic makes a new translation or change of a previous state made by bot or Esperanto not understanding user, the form (official versus unofficial) should not by changed by other user. Please, don't do it personally and set the bot to omit previously translated items. Thanks, --Petrus Adamus (talk) 08:39, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Petrus, I am all done with geographical location templates and I am not planning on any more such edits in near future. I usually prefer to use the form used by the wikipedia article as that form is decided by consensus or at least majority of the users in a given language. Using different forms here only adds to the confusion, but if you want to change them by my guest. Unfortunately it is quite possible those links will be updated periodically to sink them with the current Interlanguage links and that might overwrite your changes, but since this process is still mostly manual even if done from user:JarektBot account this will likely not be very frequent. --Jarekt (talk) 15:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)