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Obviously non-free image - this has appeared in certain tabloids with no clue as to its author. Upload is part of repeated attempts to insert POV into Anjem Choudary's wikipedia article. Parrot of Doom (talk) 08:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: [1]. Materialscientist (talk) 08:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The photographies on the poster boards are so prominent, that their copyright status cannot be ignored and rather surely is not de minimis. Requires either proof that these 2 images have originally been released under a free license or deletion. -- Túrelio (talk) 09:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, these two images have been released under the same license :
[2] and [3]
thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Econobre (talk • contribs)
Great, could you please add these links to the image pages where they are shown on posters. --Túrelio (talk) 09:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: After original on posters have been found to be also under CC-BY and sources added to description.-- Túrelio (talk) 10:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:1091 KENAN MALKOÇ İLKK TÜRK OLARAK İSRAİL BÜYÜK LOCASI ÜYESİ - YÜCE KONSEY.jpg

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The photographies on the poster boards are so prominent, that their copyright status cannot be ignored and rather surely is not de minimis. Requires either proof that these 2 images have originally been released under a free license or deletion. -- Túrelio (talk) 09:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem with:

--Túrelio (talk) 09:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, these two images have been released under the same license :
[4] and [5]
thank you Econobre (talk) 09:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Great, could you please add these links to the image pages where they are shown on posters. --Túrelio (talk) 09:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. Econobre (talk) 09:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but we still need the original sourced for image #15 and File:26-contestation-foie-gras-champs-elysees-17-12-2011.JPG. --Túrelio (talk) 09:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done, but I am afraid I dont have any source for File:20-contestation-foie-gras-champs-elysees-10-12-2011.JPG, sorry about that. You may delete the file. thx, Econobre (talk) 10:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: After original photo on the poster have been show to be under CC-BY and sources have been added to the file descriptions. -- Túrelio (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Watermarked and copyrighted image. Obvious copyvio. Dismas (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Obvious copyvio russavia (talk) 13:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:KENAN MALKOÇ.JPG

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Re-upload of color-reduced version of copyvio-deleted File:Family Guy.jpg. Color-reduction doesn't remove copyright. Uploader edit-warred to remove speedy-deletion tag. -- Túrelio (talk) 17:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per nom.--Ray Garraty (talk) 17:38, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The photo is not similar to the original version like the told the User:Ray Garraty, and his response was, "Are you JOKING?". --Archcaster 17:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My statement "I do′t think so", were the responses to your arguments. Maybe you do′t understand me so. English is not my native language. Your image is a derivative work. --Ray Garraty (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Are you joking" is indeed an appropriate answer to your claim "This file is not related to the original photo."[6]
Just as a reality-check: compare File:Archcaster.jpg to this low-res or high-res original version. Besides of the reduced colors it is fully identical. In addition, contrary to your claim it is not your own work, as this minor color-reduction doesn't even make it a strict derivative due to the missing originality of this step. --Túrelio (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Túrelio's analysis is correct, delete --Isderion (talk) 23:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: no need to discuss further, clear copyvio/derivative work Denniss (talk) 01:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Archcaster.jpg

Close (color-faded) derivative of original image ([7]) posted in 2012 at http://blog.solangeperez.com/2012/11/18/the-big-bang-theory-flash-mob/. Contrary to uploaders claim it is not his original work. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy Deleted + user blocked for a week. --Denniss (talk) 14:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Some doubts about the copyright for this image, which was uploaded to Commons in 2009. However, it had been uploaded in the same or higher resolution elsewhere already in 2007 here and here and here. Therefore it is questionable whether the 1-upload-user is really the photographer of this image. -- Túrelio (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Obvious copyvio. This from 2007 has the photo in a higher resolution than the image uploaded here. Obvious copyvio is obvious. russavia (talk) 21:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It was created by me by mistake (intended to make category, done that now aswell) Dwergenpaartje (talk) 21:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per request of creator, accidental creation. Rosenzweig τ 21:56, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Per COM:IDENT, no indication that the subject of the photo consented to broad publication under a free license. Pete F (talk) 19:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep This image is clearly of a posing model in a photographic studio, as can be seen in her set in flickr where it says "A beautiful and patient girl.", and as can be seen by the photographer, this images were taken with time and with the consent of the model by a a professional so there is a implied consent to the photographer take her image and published it and per the profile of the photographer it says "All photos licensed CC-BY-SA in my photostream are also available as CC-BY-NC.", so there inst any concern with a free license. Tm (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I see the set you mention, and while it seems plausible that it was professionally done, what makes you so confidint it was? As a general rule, we are not quick to make assumptions about photographers' intent, requiring them to state what license they are using very explicitly. Why is the intent of the model not held to a standard anything close to that? COM:IDENT requires that the model consent to something more than merely being photographed. There are many different agreements a model could have even with a professional photographer -- broad publication is only one of many things she might or might not have agreed to. Why should we make assumptions on her behalf? I am happy to ask the photographer on his Flickr account, but unless he provides some strong assurances that she consented to broad publication, I believe the image should be deleted. The license he chose relates only to his rights as the copyright holder -- not to her personality rights. -Pete F (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peteforsyth -- I'm really not too sure what your original deletion nomination comment was supposed to mean, because people have rights to be protected from intrusions into their privacy, and rights to not have their likeness be used to sell stuff without their consent, but the subject of a photograph does not ordinarily have powers to determine the license that the photograph will be released under (this is the first that I've heard of of any such alleged "right"). What prevents misuse of such a photograph are the non-copyright restrictions I mentioned, not tightening up on the copyright licensing terms... AnonMoos (talk) 10:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to be concise, but can see now how my phrasing was confusing. Thanks for asking. Of course the model has no authority over how the photographer chooses to license his own creative work. The issue is what kind of use the model did or didn't consent to; the most relevant passage of COM:IDENT is, I think, this one:
Consent to have one's photograph taken does not permit the photographer to do what they like with the image. An image on Commons will have greater potential exposure than one in a photo album, on a personal Facebook, or part of a user's Flickr stream. A model, for example, may have consented to the image being taken for a personal portfolio, but not for publication on the internet. The photographer and uploader must satisfy themselves that, when it is required, the consent given is appropriate for uploading to Commons.
What is our basis for believing that the photographer obtained model granted sufficient consent to upload it to this site? -Pete F (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete I am the photographer for this image. A release was signed by her for all uses for this image and the others in that set, but it is in possession of my estranged business partner. Even were I to unambiguously have her model rights released to me, I would not at this time be comfortable releasing them to Wikimedia Commons. I do provide a CC license for my copyright in this and the related photos, but am providing no release of her rights. It would appear, under COM:IDENT, that this photo is thus not appropriate for the commons. Sparr (talk) 16:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Sparr is indeed the photographer, he left the note above after I contacted him privately through his Flickr user account. -Pete F (talk) 17:46, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Now that we have a clear assertion from the photographer that consent was properly obtained, I'm less confident that the file should be deleted. I believe his mere assertion is enough to comply with policy, but think a case could be made that this file, minimally used in our projects (one article on Wikipedia), should be deleted out of respect for the photographer's wishes. I have no strong opinion either way at this point. -Pete F (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a non-obligatory "courtesy deletion", which is rather different from a policy-motivated deletion. As far as I can tell, there are is no real basis for a policy-motivated deletion at this time... AnonMoos (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not saying I wish it to be deleted. My vote above was for it to be deleted because that appears to be what policy dictates. 209.6.197.32 14:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. My original nomination is now outdated; the photographer has clearly asserted that the model consented to broad publication. I will add notification of this consent to the image page. -Pete F (talk) 16:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Private picture of user, out of project scope. Martin H. (talk) 00:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:20, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Private picture of user, out of project scope. Martin H. (talk) 02:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Good optical effects: illuminated fountains at night. But photo's overall quality is not good. Taivo (talk) 13:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Depicted persons lifetime was 1895-1975. The photo is most likely not 70 years old. Martin H. (talk) 02:20, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Out of scope. Unused personal image. Mjrmtg (talk) 02:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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Copyvio. 周巍峙 is still alive. Takabeg (talk) 02:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. He Luting died in 1999. Takabeg (talk) 02:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Qwertyuiopddsavncx. B 75.70.114.71 02:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reason doesn't make sense. I ask someone to close this request. --Stryn (talk) 11:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: INeverCry 00:22, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. 麦新 died in 1947. But, the performance / this video is considerably new. Takabeg (talk) 02:38, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. The poet 芦芒 died in 1979. The composer 吕其明 is still alive. Takabeg (talk) 02:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. The composer 雷振邦 died in 1997. Takabeg (talk) 02:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. The composer 雷振邦 died in 1997. Takabeg (talk) 02:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio. The composer 雷振邦 died in 1997. Takabeg (talk) 02:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible copyvio. There is no proof of {{PD-USGov-Military-Air Force}}. Takabeg (talk) 03:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:27, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Image available on the internet atleast since Jan '13. No EXIF data. New uploader. Rahul Bott (talk) 04:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal picture Pete F (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Shizhao as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: book
Converted by me to DR. IMO the depicted book cover is too simple to be copyrightable, thereby  Keep. -- Túrelio (talk) 05:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The cover is too difficult for being PD-simple. Taivo (talk) 14:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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non-commercial use only. See permission part of decription. JuTa 06:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Previously published elsewhere on the web (e.g. [8]), no evidence that the uploader is the photographer as claimed. HaeB (talk) 08:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The uploader cannot be the (original) photographer in this case. Is he known? Leyo 08:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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At the school, no act is taught, does not meet the educational content. 217.92.144.166 09:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep This reminds me Commons:Deletion requests/File:Commons deletion requests can into comedy.jpg: little girl show own ...! This photo illustrates, how photography is taught and learned at schools. (I did not know, that design schools teach that!) Taivo (talk) 15:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: INeverCry 00:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per Per OTRS Ticket:2013061710005741 (uploaded without prior consent of the institute) and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ralf_Roletschek&oldid=99513768#Hinweis_auf_Schnell.C3.B6schantrag --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused personal photo Taivo (talk) 09:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio of http://www.annales.org/archives/x/villemejane.html Patrick Rogel (talk) 09:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cette photographie semble être issue d'une série de clichés réalisés par la photographe Catherine Hélie pour le compte de Gallimard, dans le cadre de la promotion de cet écrivain. Voir cette photo-ci et cette photo-là: mêmes vêtements, même coiffure, même barbe de quelques jours. Et ces photos sont sous copyright. Chollux (talk) 10:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Sex and obscenity Nudity Profanity Sexual Themes Nudity: aroused genitals Nudity: Strong Sexual Content Pic depicts visual arousal 87.169.127.122 10:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: INeverCry 00:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per Per OTRS Ticket:2013061710005741 (uploaded without prior consent of the institute) and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ralf_Roletschek&oldid=99513768#Hinweis_auf_Schnell.C3.B6schantrag --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Photo from a 1965 magazine, not own work as claimed. The uploader says that the image is part of a foundation archive which he now administers, but that does not necessarily mean that he, the archive or the foundation also holds the rights to that image as well as a physical copy of it. Being from 1965, it is almost certainly still copyrighted. Rosenzweig τ 11:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like this image was scanned from some book or magazine and is not own work as claimed. The uploader says that the image is part of a foundation archive which he now administers, but that does not necessarily mean that he, the archive or the foundation also holds the rights to that image as well as a physical copy of it. Rosenzweig τ 11:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like this image was scanned from some book or magazine and is not own work as claimed. The uploader says that the image is part of a foundation archive which he now administers, but that does not necessarily mean that he, the archive or the foundation also holds the rights to that image as well as a physical copy of it. Rosenzweig τ 11:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment de:Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel died in 1846. Most probably this tomb architecture was created soon after, before 1860, and this is in public domain due to age. But the photo is so poor quality, that deletion would not be loss for Commons. For example, the text in plaque is totally unreadable. Taivo (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is not with the tomb (I don't think there are any remaining copyrights there), but with the image. --Rosenzweig τ 16:00, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes, the photographer's rights also ... This can be made after WWII, that case the photo is not in public domain and the photographer can be unknown ... Copyright is not a simple thing. OK, let's  Delete then. Taivo (talk) 16:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like this image was scanned from some book or magazine and is not own work as claimed. The uploader says that the image is part of a foundation archive which he now administers, but that does not necessarily mean that he, the archive or the foundation also holds the rights to that image as well as a physical copy of it. Rosenzweig τ 11:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like this image was scanned from some book or magazine and is not own work as claimed. The uploader says that the image is part of a foundation archive which he now administers, but that does not necessarily mean that he, the archive or the foundation also holds the rights to that image as well as a physical copy of it. Rosenzweig τ 11:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: INeverCry 00:34, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused modification of File:Ljohnson.jpeg, small file size, not useful Polarlys (talk) 11:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Commons is not a private album hosting service. New uploader. Rahul Bott (talk) 12:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The photo is used in en.wiki, where the article is presented for deletion due to non-notability. Taivo (talk) 18:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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little photo, no metadata, uploader's other contributions are also deleted / going to deletion due to copyright violations ... suspicious Taivo (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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The dating of the crucifix is uknown but it seems modern. In my opinion, it is original enough to be copyrightable. There is no FOP in Slovenia. Eleassar (t/p) 13:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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Movie screenshot claimed to be an "own work". There is no proof that the credited author actually holds the copyright. Vensatry (Ping me) 13:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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unused personal photo Taivo (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Unlikely to be own work: small resolution, missing EXIF. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Out of scope of the project. Possible copyright violation (watermark of a Russian social network). Andrei Romanenko (talk) 16:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Question for those, who do not understand Russian: what mean the words in photo? Answer: if you want to make rain, then wash you car. Conclusion: very bad illustration. Not used and I would say, unusable. Taivo (talk) 09:45, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The file is not realistically useful for an educational purpose - MrX 16:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete A dream? Very unusual dream, I would say. Also, unused file and the uploader's only contribution. Taivo (talk) 09:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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A logo that is not uploader's own work as claimed (source: http://www.apphelp.co.in/about-us.htm). Also, its use on Wikimedia Labs servers has it coming up in Google searches in a way that seems atypical (for self promotion). Senator2029 17:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Not a simple logo. Taivo (talk) 09:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal picture Pete F (talk) 19:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Out of scope: no education use thinkable High Contrast (talk) 20:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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The image = File:Feed-icon.svg+File:RSS icon.svg shizhao (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep I do not understand, what is wrong with that image. It is even used. Taivo (talk) 14:33, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: It's in used and graphicaly not equals to the files in the request. PierreSelim (talk) 05:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files concerning Gustav Spörri

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Reasons for deletion request: Neither rights of artist nor rights of photographer are cleared (although the uploader was requested for some weeks ago). --Martin Sg. (talk) 22:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete all. Spörri died in 1976, so no rights are expired. Taivo (talk) 18:37, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Reproduction of copyrighted posters. No FOP in Slovenia.

Eleassar (t/p) 12:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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Files of User:Milanopablo.71

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User Milanopablo.71 has uploaded these files:

They are all small unused photos, sometimes bad quality, sometimes bad composition. So small photos are almost worthless. Taivo (talk) 13:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files of User:Nessy and Qiang Su and fam

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Here are all contributions of User Nessy and Qiang Su and fam, which are not yet presented for deletion:

They are all unused personal photos with bad quality. Taivo (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by CuBaNiChY (talk · contribs)

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The size of the images makes me believe it is not own work.

Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 05:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Franciashades57 (talk · contribs)

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product spam. commons is not the sears catalog. no image is used, all have url-watermarks and no real description, besides "we customize yadayadayada..." out of scope

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Files uploaded by Vasilij99 (talk · contribs)

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Unlikely to be own work: small resolutions, missing EXIF.

EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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COM:DW sугсго 14:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: COM:DW Ezarateesteban 19:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW sугсго 14:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Linking a lettersoup without any valid argument is not a valid deletion request. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: COM:DW Ezarateesteban 19:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW sугсго 14:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The main focus of the photo is Sparacio, not his artwork. It was he, not me, who decided to hold up his artwork. If a consensus decides that this is not sufficient rationale to avoid deletion, then please let me know, and I'll crop the image, so it doesn't have to be deleted. Nightscream (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: He decided to hold up his artwork but he doesn't say anything about the licenses Ezarateesteban 19:30, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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better picture uploaded: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Corps_Symposion_Wien.png Mehlauge (talk) 08:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: uploader request Ezarateesteban 19:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: COM:DM doesn't apply here. It's too big Ezarateesteban 19:32, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete - has watermark of Israeli commercial news site. Clearly copyright material and/or not usable because of watermark DGtal (talk) 21:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: deleted by Fastily on 26 June for having no license Trijnsteltalk 13:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW sугсго 14:25, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Copyright Derivative Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:50, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted: Derivative work Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:51, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Being painted in an airplane does not make Donald Duck not copyrighted by Disney. Sorry. /á(!) 15:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really not that much into copyright rules. As stated - it's photo I took at the RAF museum of an actual P-51 fighter from WWII. If it's still copyrighted, please delete it, but it's the aircraft, not Donald duck who's the issue. אליבאבא (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I indeed understand you. It's sometimes hard to understand all copyright rules, but one rule is that all photos taken of Donald Duck are copyrighted by Disney until 2030. If you happened to take a photo of the aircraft where the whole aircraft is visible so that the Donald Duck is just a small part of the photo, you are free to upload it (de minimis). /á(!) 13:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Does not qualify de minimis Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is not Platysaurus intermedius. This lizard has smooth skin like skinks (could be Trachylepis) while Platysaurus lizards have grainy skin. Google it and watch closely. For example: http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0211+0339 Marsault (talk) 15:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep The context may be eventually wrong but even though no valid reason to delete the file. Gunnex (talk) 22:50, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Should be renamed, not deleted. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:53, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicate: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Symposion_Wien.jpg . Terribly sorry. Mehlauge (talk) 08:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nom MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:09, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The uploader uses the pronoun "we" but are they the photographer and do they understand just what a free license means? Dismas (talk) 13:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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this is a libellous picture of the actress, the photographer claims he produces "high-value" pictures, the only high value here is the resolution. As photographer he knows how to make people look good and how to "reveal" them as ugly. The other pictures by him have a similar "quality" but this is one of the worst. He's an agressive paparrazo. E-Kartoffel (talk) 14:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep The subject of this photo clearly willingly posed for the camera; it she dislikes the photo, she could raise that issue herself and we could consider it (I'm guessing that if she had any objection David would support deleting it as a courtesy) but a third party's belief that the picture is not complimentary is entirely irrelevant. Further, there is nothing inherently out of scope about a picture not being complimentary to its subject. - Jmabel ! talk 15:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep A file, in use in several wiki-projects, per COM:SCOPE "realistically useful for an educational purpose". For the nominator, try to keep a neutral point of view (what is "ugly" and "worst"?). Gunnex (talk) 22:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Denniss (talk) 09:13, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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My mistake; the subject is not Leopold Clement, and I have no idea who this man is. I assumed that "to the left of Tsar Ferdinand" meant Ferdinand's left, when it actually referred to the viewer's left. The image is therefore misleading and, since its subject is unknown and no page links to it, it has no encyclopedic value. Surtsicna (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

delete , out of scope, also because of the low quality --Isderion (talk) 23:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nom MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Per COM:IDENT. Photo appears to be taken in a private location; no indication that the subject of the photo consents to broad publication under a free license. Pete F (talk) 19:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Sauna is a very private location and the model is identifiable. Nevertheless I think, that the photo must be kept. No nudity is seen here and actually no model parts other than head and neck and shoulders can be seen. It illustrates, why there are sloped parts in sauna platform. A wooden sauna bucket is also seen. Overall good quality and composition, nothing shameful. Taivo (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand this reasoning. COM:IDENT has nothing to say about nudity or shame. Here is what it does say:
  • "The subject's consent is usually needed for publishing a photograph of an identifiable individual taken in a private place, and Commons expects this even if local laws do not require it."
With no indication of the model's wishes, this seems like a straightforward deletion. -Pete F (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The subject is in many of the photographer's photos over an extended period of time. Consent for initial publication (nevermind of a free licence -- that is a photographer right) could be reasonably assumed, HOWEVER, under the policy, as the photographer is not what I would deem to be a source which is expected to adhere to such consent to publish requirements (such as media, researchers, etc), we should indeed get an affirmation from the photographer confirming that consent to publish was given. IF someone contacts the photographer and get that affirmation that he has consent to publish the photo to Flickr, then it's a  Keep; if no response (he's active on Flickr) or no affirmation of consent, then it's a  Delete. russavia (talk) 22:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete per nom and per the board resolution on images of identifiable people. (If OTRS receives an affirmation from the photographer that the subject is happy for the image to be on Commons, and for it and derivatives of it to be broadly republished under a free licence, then it can be kept.) Andreas JN466 03:47, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Unless we get clear confirmation that model consent was given for publication and licensing of the image. --Conti| 21:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Very straightforward. This is a private location and there is no suggestion of any consent by the subject. If anyone wants to contact the photographer, that would be good. MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Per COM:IDENT: no indication that photo was taken in a public place, or that the subject of the photo consents to broad publication under a free license. Pete F (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete The file is not used and it seems to me, that educational use is impossible. Taivo (talk) 09:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: for the reasons given by nominator MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:19, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho authorship not clear, 'bad quality', no 'educational use', and not in use, i.e. imho "out of scope", Roland zh 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC) Roland zh 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland nominates images too easy for deletion. The authorship is for me clear: own work. The quality is totally satisfactory. The photo illustrates these mountains well, therefore it is in scope and very well usable. Clouds give additional value. Taivo (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per Taivo MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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imho (very) 'bad quality', no 'educational use', and not in use, i.e. imho "out of scope", Roland zh 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC) Roland zh 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

 Keep Roland nominates images for deletion too easily. The quality is totally satisfactory. The photo can illustrate all three categorized things: lake, mountains and even highway. Taivo (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: per Taivo MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused and superseded by better-quality File:Flag of South Africa.svg. Alkari (?), 17 June 2013, 22:04 UTC 22:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Denniss (talk) 09:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused and superseded by better-quality File:Flag of Israel.svg. Alkari (?), 17 June 2013, 22:06 UTC 22:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Denniss (talk) 09:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused and superseded by higher-quality File:Flag of the United States.svg. Alkari (?), 17 June 2013, 22:07 UTC 22:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Denniss (talk) 09:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Image can be found in a youtube video by Project Loon [9] (at about 3:38). As far as I can tell, there is no evidence that this is available under CC-BY-SA-3.0 or another free license. The video is marked with the "Standard YouTube License". Chris857 (talk) 22:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nom MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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www.led-zeppelin.it/ is not a photographer. We need permission from the individual who took the photo, and we have no proof he/she transferred copyright to that website just because they use it. FunkMonk (talk) 23:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Already deleted MichaelMaggs (talk) 04:22, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Appears to be copy of http://encoredinnertheatre.com/wp-content/gallery/theatre-images/1.jpg as used in web.archive.org/web/20120528103950/http://encoredinnertheatre.com/gallery/theatre-images/ and more recent versions of http://encoredinnertheatre.com/gallery/theatre-images/. Uploader appears connected with the English Wikipedia article on this theatre, so he should be able to get an OTRS permission. Recommend holding off deletion a week or more to give OTRS process time to work. Davidwr (talk) 04:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Closed as there is a ticket related to this file. Even if the permission is not confirmed yet, this file will go now through the regular OTRS process as I have tagged it with {{OTRS received}}. If a confirmation of the permission does not come within the next 30 days, it will be deleted. --AFBorchert (talk) 19:46, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Radio Colonia comes from Uruguay, not Argentina, so PD-AR label is inappropriate. While there is a PD-UY is unknown if the audio author died more than 50 years ago. 213.141.236.133 17:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Unlikely uploader's own work; Google shows multiple hits at Soundcloud and Deviantart. See e.g. [10]. (ESkog)(Talk) 18:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted -FASTILY 09:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by JuTa as no license (no license). Artist Georges de Sonneville (compare fr:Musée des beaux-arts de Bordeaux) died 1978 - see [11]. The painting in copyright protectd untill 2049. JuTa 19:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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video capture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snutl9mPAP4 Fixertool (talk) 21:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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duplication Jackbeanstalk (talk) 21:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Low quality, almost unrecognizable subject. For comparison, see images in Category:Luminara in Pisa. --Rojelio (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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EXIF states "Crown Copyright. The material may be used for current news purposes only....". It seems that the "except where otherwise stated" case of the "All content is available under the Open Government Licence, except where otherwise stated" applies here. Lymantria (talk) 22:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • I suppose this isn't completely clear. However, there's no indication on the webpage itself, which could be what they mean, and the site is intended to be entirely under the OGL. OGL material is usually Crown copyright, so that is definitely not a contradiction. The EXIF is a standard notice on the MoD's photos, that wasn't altered from the original version when the photo was published on gov.uk, as with Commons:Deletion requests/File:A commemorative plaque being unveiled at a parade to mark the change of name of the 19th Regiment Royal Artillery.jpg. Some other photos from the MoD explicitly say they are under the OGL, but have similar invalid terms in their EXIF data; there's generally a good bit of contradiction. I've asked about the other photo nominated for deletion, and I'll ask again about this one if the reply I get doesn't help here. —innotata 04:28, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose these can be deleted, since the documentation's not as clear as it could be, though in my opinion this is stretching the precautionary principle. I haven't heard back from James Forrester and people at TNA, which could clear things up completely, and gov.uk has yet to provide an actually relevant response after several tries. —innotata 22:43, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that this file is indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host it on Commons FASTILY 09:51, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplicates File:Dialects Of Punjabi.jpg, except this file name has nonneutral POV Orlady (talk) 16:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


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Modern architecture; per COM:FOP#Slovenia, not free for Commons. Eleassar (t/p) 11:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also: File:Dobova-train station SE.jpg. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's a plain train station. There already wee some request dealing with such simple functional buildings (supermarkts, etc.) and the result was to keep. --Miha (talk) 23:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The station's architecture may seem simple, but it is not standard and it is evidently an "individual intellectual creation", which is demanded by the Slovenian copyright act for a work to be copyrighted. There is no evidence of any higher threshold of originality in Slovenia than this. Photographs of more simple buildings have been deleted in the past. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:45, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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Created after 1945, no FOP in Slovenia. Eleassar (t/p) 16:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Kept: as per Sporti. Yann (talk) 09:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry, but this one really doesn't seem 'too simple' to me. It is an elaborate tomb architecture with a combination of materials and a relief of a woman head. Eleassar (t/p) 12:47, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Definitely not simple. This is very elaborate tomb architecture. Taivo (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Agree per Taivo, especially regarding the individualized combination and arrangement of different materials which makes this architecture unique. Gunnex (talk) 22:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright violation of whoever wrote the text. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Info it can be argued that you can apply fop here, see de:Wikipedia:Bildrechte#Gegenst.C3.A4nde (but you should also keep in mind this discussion at de.wp. --Isderion (talk) 23:40, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    As I understand that lenghty discussion, it's about: A physical artwork object, which was never displayed in public itself, but which is being presented to the public in form of a photo. This doesn't mean that a copy of the artwork is displyed in public, because a photo is a much shortened rendering of a 3D artwork. A photo of the complete public presentation setup would still be FOP. Now assume that this photo of the public display is cropped to a detail view, showing just the photo of the artwork. If very well done, this secondary photo can't be distinguished from a primary photo of the original artwork, which would be illegal. A paradoxon.
    But an informational text is a different kind of original. Very abstract. Rendering it on a board adds some layout artwork, but doesn't shorten the content of the plain text. So even if the text was written for somewhere else, a complete copy of the original is exhibited in public, and enjoys FOP. (Assuming that the public display itself is authorized.)
    --Ikar.us (talk) 20:52, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Considering the freedom of panorama in Germany and the low level of treshold of originality of the texts, I'm against deletion. --Haneburger (talk) 09:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC) ie.  Keep?[reply]
  •  Delete: 2 copyrights envolved here. Image and text. Image per COM:FOP#Germany might be okay, but detailed and individualized text description (btw, parts of it coming from http://www.villingen-schwenningen.com/vsinfo/moos/moos4.html etc., 1998) unlikely cc-by-3.0 by uploader = permission needed. Gunnex (talk) 23:16, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    The signature on the board is The garden and cemetery office of the city of Villingen-Schwenningen, who hereby state that they compiled the text, and have placed it on this public board.
    The site you've found was obviously set up by someone who intended to place local advertising, mixed with some information to attract search engines.
    You think that that advertiser is the original author, and the municipality has stolen educational texts from his broken website? I'm sure it's vice-versa.
    --Ikar.us (talk) 19:39, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep: Why deleting this image when it was taken in Germany? In Germany there is Freedom of Panorama, and I think, text is included in this freedom. --Friechtle (talk) 21:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. Apparently text is covered under German FOP: Commons:FOP#Summary_table. -FASTILY 06:06, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The crucifix with the sculpture was erected after 1955. The sculpture is original enough to be copyrightable. There is no FOP in Slovenia. Eleassar (t/p) 13:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded a version of the image with the sculpture blotted out. If it is too unattractive, a new photo should be taken from another angle that does not show the sculpture. Doremo (talk) 16:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is ok for me, although I agree that an image from another angle would be best. --Eleassar (t/p) 18:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]



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Aucune autorisation de ma part 90.2.16.62 16:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Qui êtes-vous ? Nono ? Kergourlay (talk) 17:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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pas d'autorisation du photographe Droit de retrait 03 (talk) 07:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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na prośbę jego autora (LoMit) (polski) LoMit (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Inferior copy of File:Logo statoil.png. Taivo (talk) 09:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This file was initially tagged by Túrelio as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: (c) Estate of Roy Lichtenstein / Photo (c) Tate
Converted my own speedy-tag and temp-restored to allow for discussion of PD-ineligible claim by uploader. -- Túrelio (talk) 12:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright notices were probably metadata from the original file. I have attempted to crop out a PD-ineligible portion of the file that includes only basic letters and shapes. In the future, I anticipate needing a PD file for use when this article becomes a w:WP:TFA. I am shooting for September 28, which is the 50th anniversary of the painting's first exhibition.--TonyTheTiger (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep It seems to me, that the licence is correct and the image is really PD-ineligible. Taivo (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Even if it is just cropped to the text, it is a derivative work of a copyrighted work, and thus would be burdened with copyright. --Masem (talk) 14:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Just text now. Pd-ineligible FASTILY 09:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The previous DR was closed with the words, "just text now. Pd-ineligible" . We have a tendency to forget that the only thing originally protected by any copyright anywhere and the only copyright mentioned explicitly in the US Constitution is that for text. This is a full sentence and therefore would by itself be eligible for copyright in the US, There is also the fact that a crop from a copyrighted work is itself copyrighted. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 13:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Indeed, even if the 'design' is not eligible for copyright, the text itself is. Revent (talk) 20:54, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. INeverCry 23:22, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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These commercial model kits are covered by US and other copyright laws. The images are all derivative works and therefore cannot be kept on Commons without the permission of the maker of the model kits. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Estas fotografías son de mi propiedad, los modelos que aparecen en las fotografías son modelos antiguos y pertenecen a mi colección particular y los modelos de castillos construidos también pues soy el autor. Además la marca comercial "EXIN-Lines Bros, S.A." ya no existe pues desparecíó En 1993, por tanto no hay ningún problema con los derechos de autor.

These photos are my property, the old models that appear in the photographs belong to my private collection and models of castles built also as I am the author. The trademark "EXIN-Lines Bros, S. A. " disappeared in 1993, therefore there is no problem with copyright.

Joaquín Morales Molero (Chimo38)


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Files uploaded by Abdirhm (talk · contribs)

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Out of Commons:Project scope: Commons is not private photo album. Too excessive collection for user page.

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Deleted: The issue is not with the copyright, but rather with the fact that the images are blatantly out of scope FASTILY 09:49, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Old diagrams uploaded by Nanite (talk · contribs)

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A bunch of diagrams I made which have now been re-uploaded in SVG format (also, public domain'd). Some of these were double-uploaded in PNG (display) and PDF (source) format. The SVG version displays well and is vector; source has been uploaded into summaries. You can see the new versions on my WP gallery here.

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Files uploaded by User:Communist from Bey

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User КоммунистизБеи has uploaded these copyright violations:

There is no freedom of panorama in Russia. Taivo (talk) 14:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with File:Бея.jpg? And the latter two have nothing to do with freedom of panorama, and so does Lenin's year of death with a Lenin sculpture (of unknown/anonymous author, most likely). In File:Парк победы бея.JPG it's hard to say, what's the copyrighted object. Keep at least partially. --Amga (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is difficult to believe, that the author of Lenin's sculpture is anonymous. Also, File:Бея.jpg contains modern building (younger than 70 years), its rights are not expired. Taivo (talk) 08:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Lenin: I meant unknown (to us) OR anonymous, may be deleted, but Lenin's year of death has nothing to do with it unlike the year of death of the author if he isn't still alive. The building: you call that architecture? --Amga (talk) 00:01, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't see any evidence that these posters are under a free license. De minimis doesn't apply since the posters are obviously the main subject. darkweasel94 19:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I asked Краљевић Марко to know the status: this is a Wikimedia Serbia poster. Turb (talk) 21:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See also w:en:Serbian Wikipedia. Turb (talk) 09:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Turb, please ask the creator what the exact free license is, since affects the license of the photograph itself. Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:59, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The president of WMSR is no more active, I think. Someone there must know who is the original creator of the posters; I will ask someone else. I am pretty sure the original pictures from RMS and Jimbo are free. Turb (talk) 07:05, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The original picture of Jimmy Wales : CC-by. Turb (talk) 07:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The original picture of Richard Stallman under CC-by-nd. This is nd, but the transformed version comes from a RMS conference in Singapore, and only the contrast has changed. Just like the poster we are talking about. I just sent him an email. Turb (talk) 21:44, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Even if the original is cc-by, that doesn't say anything about the poster itself; cc-by isn't even a copyleft license so the poster author was under no obligation to license it freely. darkweasel94 22:27, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've always been under the impression that Jimmy Wales and Richard Stallman are by default copyleft attribution licenses :-) Bastique ☎ appelez-moi! 00:57, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should contact meta:User:Millosh. He can tell you more than me. -- Bojan  Talk  09:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Posters are under CC-BY-SA/GFDL license and were the part of the Wikimedia Serbia project "Lik i link". If you need formal clarification, please contact someone from Wikimedia Serbia. RMS didn't have any objection on the content and licensing and you are free to ask him, as well. (Note that I won't follow further discussion about this issue and that the best idea for your further questions is to approach WM RS and RMS.) --Millosh (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just got an answer from RMS. Reading it twice, I am not sure this poster can be shared using a free license, but I am asking him for clarification, stay tuned. Note there are at least 5 other pictures of this poster: Category:LikiLink (the one with Jimbo is now ok AFAIK). Turb (talk) 23:00, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Reply from the copyright holder suggests that this file is not acceptable for Commons. This file can be restored through COM:OTRS if proper permission is received. FASTILY 08:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A collection of flags used to represent languages would be fine, but this is a collection of flags that the editors think should or could be used to represent languages, which is out of scope. Prosfilaes (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I added the talk page because the main page was protected.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20
35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 Keep-The page is a very useful resource. Sure, it is full of flags that we think are good, but it is still a good resource for anyone who would want such things. Shikku27316 (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
COM:SCOPE. That you claim it's a very useful resource doesn't mean it's a valid Commons page.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it would be stupid to delete it. And where else would it go? I could make it my userpage on here, but that wouldn't work because nobody could find it. I say we keep it. It's a gallery of pictures that are there to represent something and to help people. Many galleries here are not within the scope of wiki. Should we delete all the galleries then? Shikku27316 (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There's many, many places you can host your private pages. Other crap exists is not a deletion argument here any more then Wikipedia, and galleries are very clearly in scope in the general case. One called, say, Paintings you can use to identify languages, yes, I would propose for deletion.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:24, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Private pages? I don't know. This gallery is not hurting anyone, and it doesn't take up memory (does it?). My examples below show that it's not any less educational than those, and I can find more. I'll be back after I read the scope and find more pointless galleries. Shikku27316 (talk) 23:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Other crap exists is not a deletion argument. I said that above.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say "other crap exists", I'm talking about what that "crap" is. And that it has no more educational value than this page. If not less. It fits everything in the scope, but we're debating its educationality. It shows people flags that they could use to represent a language, and shows people, or teaches people, where a language is spoken or what a language's official flag looks like if it has one. People learn better with colourful things. Saying "it's spoken in pockets of central Xinjiang in the northwest of China" is not going to always be as educational as a flag of Uyghurstan. I think, in fact I know, that it has educational value, if that's even the point of a gallery. Seriously, a gallery of paintings won't teach. I think, maybe the name is just what's misleading us here. Shikku27316 (talk) 03:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find the whole notion of languages having flags quite absurd, not to mention that quite a few of the images shown aren’t even flags. I don’t see what purpose would be served by deleting the talk page, however—ISTM that would just enshrine the gallery as being beyond criticism or improvement.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 19:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • As I noted above, the main page is protected, so I couldn't tag it for deletion. That languages don't have flags is not completely true; Esperanto and Lingua Franca Nova have frequently used flags, and Category:SVG flags of languages has a number of flag-shaped images that don't match national flags for use with multinational languages by people who like to use flags with countries. Various forms of UK/US flag blends, with or without Canadian additions for English, etc.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So we may assume that if this discussion favours deleting of the talk page, the gallery would be automatically deleted as well? Anyway, both your examples are conlangs: while I might argue that these are flags of the organizations that promote them, rather than of the languages per se, that’s a rather fine distinction. Accordingly, I would not oppose a compromise that removed all the entries except for those belonging to linguistic, ethnolinguistic, or language-based organizations (including e.g. conlangs and Francophonie), and perhaps the invented flags or animated montages combining flags of the countries with a particular official language (although their educational value is questionable). Nor would I oppose a Move to a more appropriate name, one that didn’t imply that the entries in it—particularly the flags of nations and regions—are all about language. Furthermore, a great many of the places represented do not have an important or distinctive local dialect, an inference an uninformed reader might draw. Otherwise, I’ll say  Delete. I also feel that flags invented for fun belong on a personal or social-media site.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think a move would be good. It could be "Flags to represent languages by where they're spoken" or something. Let me try to figure this out. "Flags of Languages" or "Flags of places to represent the majority languages." Or, just something else. Shikku27316 (talk) 23:38, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Esperanto flag is not proprietary to any one of the organizations that promotes it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, noted. But my main concern is with the national, and especially regional, flags. (Recent disputes & Talk highlight the problem with the latter.)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:12, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, I have copied the source down, so if it goes down, I can always either bring it back up in the main space or in a sandbox. But if someone's looking for this, it's here for them. Maybe they want to use flags to represent languages for a project, or whatever. I know I used to be looking for the same thing. Why wouldn't someone else want to look for it? Shikku27316 (talk) 22:45, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete These aren't "Flags representing languages", they're flags representing countries. Basing a gallery on personal views or ideas doesn't meet the COM:SCOPE requirement of educational value. Also, it's not difficult to find a flag here on Commons of any country for any purpose, so no real need for this gallery. INeverCry 04:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They are flags representing areas that speak these languages, flags representing cultures who speak that language, or the language itself. It's not personal views; it's more just "what flag could represent this language to say what language it is without bothersome writing?" I didn't know it had to be educational, either. Most of the galleries here aren't educational, be it "Faroe Islands", "Portraits of U.S. Presidents", or "Sexual Identity symbols" (and anything with "sexual" in the title should not be on here anyway). It's difficult to find a flag to represent a language if you need it, because if someone needs Nynorsk, they may accidentally use Norway's flag. Or India for Hindi. Or Spain for Spanish. Someone could design flags each language and propose them (I'll do it!), so maybe we could do that and make a gallery, with this stuff at the bottom or something? Well, I hope I can propose language flags, it would be fun. Shikku27316 (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete per INeverCry reasons cited.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 18:00, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But I just countered those arguments. Shikku27316 (talk) 05:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Forgive them, because they do not know, what they are doing. This is original work, this is not allowed in Wikipedia. Taivo (talk) 17:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's not otiginal work, it's not Wikipedia. It's the Commons, and it's a gallery. It has more value than my examples above. I don't know what we're doing that makes us need forgiveness. Shikku27316 (talk) 23:38, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per Shikku. It's not Wikipedia, it's Commons, and it's a gallery, and such things do not have to be verified or backed up by sources. Having said that, anecdotally, i can say that in my experience I have often seen many of these in linguistic use. Evertype (talk) 08:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Potentially useful -- We often see the Union flag used to represent the English language version of a page, the Tricolor, the French language version, and so forth. This can be helpful for people creating versions of pages that have less obvious languages. While it has its problems -- the inclusion of the Australian White Ensign, for example, those can be fixed. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It's pointless and it causes controversy and it shouldn't be here. I'm doing this project on my user page, because I only wanted it here because I thought it was fun, so I'm doing it on my page. This page is useless. Shikku27316 (talk) 01:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Um...? Responses? Shikku27316 (talk) 06:14, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep I think it has great flags, and has cognates from language to flag. Above, we see that people have already said it is educational. Shikku27316 (talk) 07:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Are you kidding? Flags don't equal languages because a country can have many languages, and vice versa. Unless a flag is made for a language.Shikku27316 (talk) 07:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- I don't know but both sides have understandable points. I say  Keep , because what's it Matter if it's here? Shikku27316 (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Kept: It could actually work educationally, and remember, it's just a gallery. Keep. Shikku27316 (talk) 18:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)--[reply]

 Delete This page contains a lot of errors. For example, I see here flag of Estonian president. This flag has nothing to do with Estonian language, this has to do only with Estonian state. Actually, there is no flag of Estonian language at all. If there are such mistakes for Estonian language, then most probably there are so big mistakes for others languages also. I think, that most languages do not have a flag. Taivo (talk) 14:26, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Um, I already solved this debate, and problems can just be fixed. The debate's over. Shikku27316 (talk) 00:28, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You must be kidding. At first, the case is not closed, at second, you have no right to close such cases, at third, the problems are not fixed, at fourth, there has not been actual debate, and at fifth, such cases need a week for anyone to say his/her opinion and the week is not passed. Taivo (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm not kidding. Problems can be fixed. I didn't say they were. I resolved it myself, because nobody was responding. If you care so Much, you should have responded earlier. Shikku27316 (talk) 13:17, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You don't get to close DRs. So long as it's open, other people get to respond.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:37, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's not open. I fixed the problem. Go away. Now. Shikku27316 (talk) 06:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This was not polite to say. And no problems are fixed. Taivo (talk) 08:20, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't talking to you. I said we could fix the problems. Not that we did. Go fix them yourself. Shikku27316 (talk) 10:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With an attitude like that, it's pretty clear why nobody responded.--Prosfilaes (talk) 20:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My attitude in the original comment wasn't as sour as your previous attitude to me. I just innocently described why this page needs to Be killed, I didn't do anything mean, unless you're talking about me after the other guy came in. Nobody would have known about My Bad attitude before that, and they wouldn't use it as a reason to not respond, because they wouldn't know about it. What is it with you? You intrude on someone's conversations and make the conversation about something completely different. Usually, you're changing it to assertiveness towards me. This time, I don't know what Could Have made you come here. I didn't do anything that would make you come here, so I don't know why you did. Why can't you understand this: LEAVE ME ALONE. Shikku27316 (talk) 21:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)--[reply]
Why can't you understand this: following a page (Linguistic flags), its talk page and its DR page is not stalking you.--Prosfilaes (talk) 10:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need to keep responding. If you don't have anything useful to the actual conversation to say, then go away. Why do you come here and not actually be useful to the actual goals of the conversation? You just come and piss on me. --Shikku27316 (talk) 16:25, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So... what do we Do now? --Shikku27316 (talk) 04:08, 8 July 2013 (UTC)`[reply]


Deleted. Out of scope and contains many errors. We're better off without this. -FASTILY 08:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]