Commons:Deletion requests/2024/11/27

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Shouldn't the sculpture be considered de minimmis, in File:Gara de Nord.JPG?

No FoP in Romania, sculptor Cornel Medrea died in 1964 and Ion Jalea died in 1983

A1Cafel (talk) 00:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment The concern voided by @A1Cafel seems to be over the sculpture. The nearby station was finished in 1872. Yet he or she listed images where the sculpture is very small, like File:Gara de Nord.JPG amd File:Gara de Nord, Bucuresti -c.jpg Geo Swan (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Gara de Nord.JPG looks de minimis to me (File:Gara de Nord, Bucuresti -c.jpg is definitely not), but I thought I remembered reading that Romania doesn't recognize the concept of de minimis. I don't see any mention of that phrase in Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Romania, so I think someone must have posted an excerpt from a court decision in another deletion request thread, but there's no way on Earth that I would find it. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ikan Kekek Romania does have some de minimis concept, which is analogous to Eastern European and Soviet Union-style FoP condition. The de minimis concept for public landmarks already exists in their laws, pre-empting potential contradictory court rulings. Romania, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghizstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Slovenia, Bosnia and Hercegovina, and Montenegro all have very identical FoP rules that state it is allowed to freely shoot, share, and distribute images of public landmarks, unless the landmarks themselves became the main objects of the images, to which free use – which includes commercial uses – is no longer legal. Meaning, images should only show those landmarks in a de minimis (in Eastern European standards, "not the main object") manner. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 07:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much, and Happy New Year! Could you possibly add that to the copyright pages for those countries? That would be very helpful. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear pic Soumava2002 (talk) 08:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Apparently taken from [1]; the file is mirrored. Rosenzweig τ 09:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dmartin969: But it is the exact same photograph (just horizontally mirrored). The 2007 date at [2] does not seem to be the date the photo was taken, but when it was edited or uploaded to the site. See [3]: dated to 2003 in the headline, but with a 23/12/2007 date below the text. --Rosenzweig τ 08:43, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Esfarvarin ans shal and Takestan, Segzabad is TAT people. (Wrong and false map) Qazvingram (talk) 11:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This map has Deleting the people of Tat these areas. It has no source and is purely a personal work. Esfarvarin, Takestan, Danesfehan, Segzabad, Shal is Tat people Qazvingram (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Only used on a user talk page in hebrew wiki, serves no actual purpose. Users123tps (talk) 12:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

duplicated of this image that has the right license Paperoastro (talk) 12:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paperoastro: If it's a duplicate, you shouldn't open a DR, but just use {{Duplicate}} in the target page. Ruthven (msg) 14:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ruthven: Thank you for your clarification. I have just ask the deletion of three images with the same reason. If it is a problem, you can cancel my requests: then I will use the duplicate template. --Paperoastro (talk) 15:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Paperoastro As they are files that I have uploaded myself, I'd rather not to. Ruthven (msg) 20:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising, out of scope, and DW image. P 1 9 9   16:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete not in scope. Iwaqarhashmi (talk) 17:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see a scope issue here. Advertising is not inherently out of scope, and a rural community advertising to get a doctor to move there seems to me to be historically interesting. The image might be a problem (though I don't know why we are presuming that the community in question did not clear the rights before licensing the ad; usually we assume government bodies got that right); if it is, we can certainly cover it with a Gaussian blur or a description of what it showed without significantly diminishing the educational/historic value of the file. Let me know if someone wants that done, and which approach (Gaussian blur or description) is preferred. This, of course, assumes the license came from the copyright-holder of the text in the ad, not the historical society that is reproducing it. - Jmabel ! talk 19:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Because this is an old version of the logo. I already uploaded the latest version. Blastparade (talk) 17:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unless this company is notable, the new logo and this file should both be deleted. If the company is notable, the fact that this is old makes it historical, and "old" is never a deletion reason. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User cannot be author of selfie of another person Friend (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Samral (talk · contribs)

Several non-trivial logos claimed to be PD because of inegibility (File:AzPFL_logo.jpg), claims that files are released under CC without evidence (File:Isa Gambar (1).jpg), files supposed to be in PD because of age but undated (File:Pənahəli xan.jpg) or created long after the limit for copyright expiry (File:Səməd Vurğun (Pekin, 1955).jpg). In at least one case, the claim of authorship seems to be simply false (File:Cəmil Həsənli (21.09.2013).jpg).

Underlying lk (talk) 00:35, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Underlying lk

File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 1.jpg, File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 2.jpg and File:Bakı şəhərində M.Ə.Rəsulzadənin abidəsinin ucaldılması haqqında 26 saylı qərar (13.01.1993).jpg my images.

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= PD-old-70. what's the matter ?--samral talk 23:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gazanfar Halykov, the author of File:Nizami Gəncəvi - Qəzənfər Xalıqov.jpg, died in 1981. 2014-1981=70? --Juggler2005 (talk) 01:12, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is a mess, with way too many different arguments. File:AzPFL_logo.jpg, to pick on one, is probably ineligible for copyright in the US, and deserves its own discussion.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


No evidence that the author died 100 years ago like {{PD-old-100}} requires.

Juggler2005 (talk) 00:05, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Juggler2005 bəs sənin sübutun var mı ki, müəllif 100 il əvvəl ölməyib ?--samral talk 00:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"The burden of proof lies on the uploader." --Juggler2005 (talk) 00:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Juggler2005 File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 1.jpg, File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 2.jpg and File:Bakı şəhərində M.Ə.Rəsulzadənin abidəsinin ucaldılması haqqında 26 saylı qərar (13.01.1993).jpg mənim şəkillərimdi. MY IMAGE . Do you understand me? My image. How can I prove that my? I upload pictures below is incorrect:

File:Yeni nəbz qəzeti.jpg File:Azərbaycan İslam Partiyasının loqosu.png File:AzPFL logo.jpg File:The Gospel of Barnabas (Samuel Green).jpg File:AHC logo.jpg File:KHC logo.jpg File:Isa Gambar (1).jpg--samral talk 13:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC) I thought that there is copyright of the logo.--samral talk 13:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2 pictures below is from a Pakistani newspapers of the 1890 scan. Article "Peshawar Nights" about the book. If you want to learn, you know that when researching the book printed: File:"Dürrü Nəcəfi" jurnalının 1-ci səhifəsi.jpg File:"Dürrü Nəcəfi" jurnalının 2-ci səhifəsi.jpg.--samral talk 13:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Juggler2005 Why not write me an answer?--samral talk 01:01, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I don't know what to say. --Juggler2005 (talk) 01:50, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Juggler2005 I repeat. File:Yeni nəbz qəzeti.jpg

File:Azərbaycan İslam Partiyasının loqosu.png File:AzPFL logo.jpg File:The Gospel of Barnabas (Samuel Green).jpg File:AHC logo.jpg File:Sabir bağı (1930-cu il).jpg File:Su kəməri və kanalizasiya qədimdə.jpg File:Nizami Gəncəvi - Qəzənfər Xalıqov.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun qohumları ilə.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun həyat yoldaşı ilə.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun iş otağında (1954).jpg File:Səməd Vurğun (Pekin, 1955).jpg File:İncil nüxəsi (XVI əsr).jpg File:The Twelve Imams.jpg File:The Twelve Imams(1).jpg File:Pənahəli xan.jpg File:KHC logo.jpg and File:Isa Gambar (1) You know, because I've installed incorrectly delete. File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 1.jpg, File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 2.jpg and File:Bakı şəhərində M.Ə.Rəsulzadənin abidəsinin ucaldılması haqqında 26 saylı qərar (13.01.1993).jpg belongs to me. My. Prove otherwise if the command is not so--samral talk 16:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to Prosfilaes, this is a mess. You cannot mix deletion requests for several files and reasons. How should that be discussed? Alos agree to AzPFL logo.jpg, which seems too simple to me to be protected. --Don-kun (talk) 11:30, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Procedural close. Please renominate in smaller batches. Natuur12 (talk) 23:06, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:14, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Samral (talk · contribs)

Photos from a book published in 1990. No evidence that they are in the public domain. Commons:Project scope/Evidence: "In all cases the uploader must provide appropriate evidence to demonstrate either that the file is in the public domain or that the copyright owner has released it under a suitable licence. (...) In all cases, the burden of proof lies on the uploader."

Juggler2005 (talk) 16:11, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These pictures were taken in 1940-55. Image is not the owner of the image that attracts the party pictures. Name of Səməd Vurğun. Although the picture of health Səməd Vurğun's death in 1956, published in the public domain. Officially published in 1990 in the book take place bi is for this reason also..--samral talk 13:07, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted per nomination. --Krd 13:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Artwork. No date, no author information. No evidence that these pictures are in the public domain. Commons:Project scope/Evidence: "In all cases the uploader must provide appropriate evidence to demonstrate either that the file is in the public domain or that the copyright owner has released it under a suitable licence. (...) In all cases, the burden of proof lies on the uploader."

Juggler2005 (talk) 16:17, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These pictures were taken in the XIX century in Iran.--samral talk 13:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I said 18 December: "File:Azərbaycan İslam Partiyasının loqosu.png File:AzPFL logo.jpg File:The Gospel of Barnabas (Samuel Green).jpg File:AHC logo.jpg File:Sabir bağı (1930-cu il).jpg File:Su kəməri və kanalizasiya qədimdə.jpg File:Nizami Gəncəvi - Qəzənfər Xalıqov.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun qohumları ilə.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun həyat yoldaşı ilə.jpg File:Səməd Vurğun iş otağında (1954).jpg File:Səməd Vurğun (Pekin, 1955).jpg File:İncil nüxəsi (XVI əsr).jpg File:The Twelve Imams.jpg File:The Twelve Imams(1).jpg File:Pənahəli xan.jpg File:KHC logo.jpg and File:Isa Gambar (1) You know, because I've installed incorrectly delete. File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 1.jpg, File:İçərişəhər DTMQİ icazə vərəq 2.jpg and File:Bakı şəhərində M.Ə.Rəsulzadənin abidəsinin ucaldılması haqqında 26 saylı qərar (13.01.1993).jpg belongs to me. My. Prove otherwise if the command is not so."--samral talk 13:15, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of these are still PD-simple, this should be again closed and the images under suspicion should be individually re-nominated. Fry1989 eh? 20:29, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I renominated it in smaller batches like Natuur12 demanded. Your demand crosses the line of common sense. --Juggler2005 (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete Since Samral provides no evidence to support the claim that they were created in the 19th century. From the art style they would seem to be from the late 20th century, but in any case it's always the uploader that has to to the proving.--Underlying lk (talk) 04:37, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
File:Azərbaycan İslam Partiyasının loqosu.png  Delete

File:AzPFL logo.jpg  Delete File:The Gospel of Barnabas (Samuel Green).jpg  Delete File:AHC logo.jpg  Delete File:Sabir bağı (1930-cu il).jpg  Delete File:Su kəməri və kanalizasiya qədimdə.jpg  Delete File:Nizami Gəncəvi - Qəzənfər Xalıqov.jpg  Delete File:Səməd Vurğun qohumları ilə.jpg  Delete File:Səməd Vurğun həyat yoldaşı ilə.jpg  Delete File:Səməd Vurğun iş otağında (1954).jpg  Delete File:Səməd Vurğun (Pekin, 1955).jpg  Delete File:İncil nüxəsi (XVI əsr).jpg  Delete File:The Twelve Imams.jpg  Delete File:The Twelve Imams(1).jpg  Delete File:Pənahəli xan.jpg  Delete File:KHC logo.jpg and  Delete File:Isa Gambar (1)  Delete--samral talk 18:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted 2 files per nomination. (Discussion for the rest sadly is not comprehesible. Please renominate if necessary.) --Krd 13:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright for these files is claimed to have expired, but the author and date of publication are missing (Naməlum means 'unknown'), therefore the claim is impossible to verify.

Underlying lk (talk) 17:01, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I agree  Delete. But

No. Because its scans pages of Journal of Durru Najafi article about of "Peshawar Nights". And Peshawar Nights is a Shi'a book by Sultanu'l-Wa'izin Shirazi[1] ("Prince of Preachers from Shiraz")[2] recounts a public debate between Shi'a Muslims and Sunni Muslims. The debate took place in the city of Peshawar in the North-West Frontier Province (present-day Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) in Pakistan of British India beginning on 27 January 1927.

References

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2015-1927=88. And 88>70 :)--samral talk 20:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: except the two. Natuur12 (talk) 22:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Photos made by azerbaijani photographer Ehtiram Jabi and previously shared social network [5]. Most likely grabbed by Samral somewhere from social media.

--Sefer azeri (talk) 20:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sefer azeri I upload my photos on the original. Here is the photo copy photo. :)--samral talk 20:12, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Author of this photos photographer Ehtiram Jabi. In here [6] his other photos taken the same camera.--Sefer azeri (talk) 20:18, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Photos of me now that I have installed here. Originally started as me now. Already evident in everything from the installation of the original photograph.--samral talk 20:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
All this photos (and more) are originally shared in here [7] 11 may 2015 --Sefer azeri (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This photo is not original. For example, this photo here 182 KB, if I was when I installed 4.21 MB. According to you, which is the original?--samral talk 20:38, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The case is not about which photo is original. You're not author this photos because they made by professional photographer Ehtiram Jabi. --Sefer azeri (talk) 06:50, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Be prove me--samral talk 07:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've gave the links to original (and earlier) photos in upper.))--Sefer azeri (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They are not original. They have 140 kB. I'd dealt with 3-4 MB. You're wasting my time. If show the evidence. Or do not engage me. You block me WIKIPEDIA The user has seven times. Now here you are interfering with my activity. Bye--samral talk 16:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted: The images bore no resemblance to user's own photography, including metadata. User has never claimed to be Ehtiram Jabi except for these seven pictures. COM:OTRS can be filed by Mr. Jabi at any time, should he so desire, and the images could be restored. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Ymblanter (talk) 18:20, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Ymblanter (talk) 17:12, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: deleted by Ymblanter. --Christian Ferrer (talk) 17:07, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Gbawden (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Samral (talk · contribs)

False dates of shooting, unlikely to be uploader's work.

Patrick Rogel (talk) 22:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Rogel, The photos are mine. But I don't know the exact shooting dates. (Google Translate)--samral talk 11:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Samral: "Mine" doesn't mean anything: do you own a copy of these images or are you the photographer? --Patrick Rogel (talk) 11:29, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Patrick Rogel: , These pictures were given to me by Farman Mahmudov's son.--samral talk 12:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then first you are not allowed to claim "own work" on them and Farman Mahmudov's son probably not since he was not born when the pictures have been shot. You may ask him to send a permission via COM:OTRS but i'm not sure it will be enough. --Patrick Rogel (talk) 12:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Patrick Rogel: , Elshad Mahmudov, son of Farman Mahmudov, sent me these photographs.--samral talk 15:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Gbawden (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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http://sia.az/az/news/politics/745641.html

Patrick Rogel (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Gbawden (talk) 06:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: Deleted by someone else. ~riley (talk) 05:11, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: as above. ~riley (talk) 05:58, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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https://www.mimta.az/

Patrick Rogel (talk) 19:22, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: per nomination. --Gbawden (talk) 08:50, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Samral (talk · contribs)

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Possible COM:FLICKRWASHING, every one of these images was uploaded to Flickr as PD 1.0 a week or so before it was uploaded to Commons. In each case the Flickr user has uploaded no other images.

Belbury (talk) 10:39, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

VRT is receiving several tickets related to this DR, but up to now none of it was confirmed. --Krd 12:41, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Belbury, I did not upload any of these photos to Flickr. Each image has been uploaded by its author. I just explained the rules and procedure to them. I have informed all the authors of the picture. Each of them gives and will give more detailed information about it by mail. samral talk 15:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All were deleted already, except one, which is kept. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Samral (talk · contribs)

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Two drawings sourced to news sites that simply include the picture at the top of a story with no credit or discussion of it. The uploader says on their talk page that they believe these drawings to have been "taken around the 19th century", but I don't see a reason to dismiss the possibility that - where the author and original source are unknown - they are modern paintings in a particular style.

Belbury (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted: by Krd. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 00:12, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused photos of non-notable people at non-notable events, no educational value, out of scope.

P 1 9 9   20:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep these came from the Flickr account of a local historical society. Unless we think there is a copyright issue, I'm inclined to keep such things. We never know who might be researching the place in question at some time in the future and find these useful. They are certainly at least as likely to be of interest to some future historian than our innumerable images of comparable WMF-related meetings and events. - Jmabel ! talk 18:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment is not aligned with Commons' scope. Commons is not a simple mirror of local community archives, so we don't have the same inclusion criteria. As for research, these images will continue to be available at the source (where researchers would go first anyway), but within the scope of Commons, images of totally non-notable persons at some minor local event have little to no value here (this is obviously subjective but precedents here on Commons have set the bar much higher than these people). --P 1 9 9   14:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Logo designed by British artist John Pasche (b. 1945). Günther Frager (talk) 22:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Info File has a COM:VRTS permission tag. If you have doubts about the permission please ask Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard.--Wdwd (talk) 13:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Derivative work of the logo designed by British artist John Pasche (b. 1945). Günther Frager (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cette image est une copie non permise de https://armorialdefrance.fr/page_blason.php?ville=20791Ssire (talk) 07:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]