Commons:Deletion requests/2024/08/25
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[edit]Nominating because this restoration was deleted at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Behind the Door (1919).webm. I am neutral. Prospectprospekt (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Kept: Movie is in the public domain. I don't think coloring is creative enough, even when it is itself derivative of the original prints (as stated in the previous nomination). Had the musicalized version been uploaded it would have certainly been deleted, but this muted version is completely fine as it is firmly in the public domain in the US. --Bedivere (talk) 04:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Although the original movie is public domain, this particular restoration apparently contains new copyrightable elements: "No single, complete, copy of the film is known to survive. This restoration is based [on] an incomplete 35mm print and a separate small roll of shots preserved at the Library of Congress National Audio-Visual Conservation Center, and a 35mm copy of a Russian version, based on an export negative preserved at Gosfilmofond of Russia. In two sequences, still images have been inserted to bridge gaps where motion picture material was not available. Shot continuity and text for re-created intertitles and bridging stills are based on director Irvin Willat's original script and continuity. Color tinting and toning have [been] reproduced based on the laboratory notations in the leaders of the Library of Congress print." Thus the new editing, bridging sections, recreated intertitles, and possibly tinting are copyrighted. Nosferattus (talk) 01:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- FYI, I also nominated this restoration for deletion at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Behind the Door (1919) by Irvin Willat.webm. According to SilentRobert3 at Commons talk:Deletion requests/File:Behind the Door (1919).webm, there are bridging sequences at 43:08 and 50:30; in our version they are at 43:56 and 50:29 respectively. SilentRobert3 also implies that there are "new 'insert' shots and titles" apart from the two aforementioned sequences.
- I searched the Catalog of Copyright Entries for any registrations by Flicker Alley. The only one I could find is PA0001194345, their restoration of Lewis Milestone's 1928 film The Garden of Eden. "Editing", "text", and "compilation" are all listed as part of the "Basis of Claim" for that registration, and Flicker Alley says that it is "mastered from what is considered to be the best surviving elements." Maybe Flicker Alley did something similar here? I think we should contact them to know (1) exactly what additional editing they did apart from the two bridging sequences and (2) what their correspondence with the Copyright Office regarding their registration for The Garden of Eden contained, because that would probably be useful for this case. prospectprospekt (talk) 00:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't reviewed the video closely, but if the bridging sequences are the only issue, I think the best approach would be not to delete the video but to mark it as {{Non-free embedded}} and open a COM:GL/AV request to trim them out of the video. The reconstructed intertitles are more complex than the typical restoration since they've got image backgrounds, so that might end up being the more important issue. hinnk (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Background wouldn't be below COM:TOO#China. Ahri Boy (talk) 03:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, requesting a wordmark of the game as replacement. Ahri Boy (talk) 03:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind, I'll just upload a box art to the English Wikipedia as Fair Use instead. SuperGrey (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh. You already did XD. SuperGrey (talk) 08:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind, I'll just upload a box art to the English Wikipedia as Fair Use instead. SuperGrey (talk) 08:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Delete Background is stylistic calligraphy. Probably above TOO-US: brush strokes are not simple geometric shapes. Glrx (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)- Delete also File:Black Myth Wukong Logo.png. The calligraphy for "悟空" is above COM:TOO#China. 0x0a (talk) 04:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Comment I uploaded a new version of just the wordmark. ReneeWrites (talk) 10:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy: I hope you don't mind the ping, but if you determine this to be above TOO, could you remove the copyrighted version from the file history? I can't close the deletion request otherwise. ReneeWrites (talk) 18:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep: The first non-free logo needs to be version deleted. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 11:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @The Squirrel Conspiracy: I hope you don't mind the ping, but if you determine this to be above TOO, could you remove the copyrighted version from the file history? I can't close the deletion request otherwise. ReneeWrites (talk) 18:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Out of scope: Excluded educational content. Raw text only. Better hosted elsewhere. Headlock0225 (talk) 08:46, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Scientific publication are in scope. Yann (talk) 12:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please point to the Commons guideline that says unused text files are in scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Project scope#PDF and DjVu formats:
A PDF or DjVu file of a published and peer-reviewed work would be in scope on Wikisource and is therefore also in scope on Commons. Examples of in-scope documents include published books (but not vanity publishing), peer-reviewed academic papers, etc., university theses and dissertations.
- Commons:Project scope#PDF and DjVu formats:
- Please point to the Commons guideline that says unused text files are in scope. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Omphalographer (talk) 08:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, much appreciated. However, on the same page, we have this: "Excluded educational content: Files that contain nothing educational other than raw text." Commons really needs to eliminate the contradiction and make completely clear that text files are OK if they meet certain criteria and not otherwise. However, knowing the way things are here, I don't expect the wordings to ever be changed or clarified, and if I made a proposal to do so, it would get little reaction and would not be approved. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with your comments. The clarification of policy above is tucked down in a section on whether pdf or djvu files are acceptable - not where I would naturally look. Headlock0225 (talk) 10:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, I'd say? The article would be in scope for Wikisource (and thus for Commons) if it was freely licensed. Unfortunately, the DOI URL provides no evidence of this, @Suhail Anjum Rather (who presumably uploaded the file) is not the only author (meaning that the other 4 authors would also need to agree to freely license their article in order for it to be acceptable). Thus, as is, this is a copyvio. Duckmather (talk) 17:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with your comments. The clarification of policy above is tucked down in a section on whether pdf or djvu files are acceptable - not where I would naturally look. Headlock0225 (talk) 10:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, much appreciated. However, on the same page, we have this: "Excluded educational content: Files that contain nothing educational other than raw text." Commons really needs to eliminate the contradiction and make completely clear that text files are OK if they meet certain criteria and not otherwise. However, knowing the way things are here, I don't expect the wordings to ever be changed or clarified, and if I made a proposal to do so, it would get little reaction and would not be approved. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Out of scope material (?). 🏺ⲈⲨⲐⲨⲘⲈⲚⲎⲊ🏛️ ⲱⲑⲏⲥⲁⲧⲉ 11:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Used in what seems to be a good-faith draft. IronGargoyle (talk) 01:22, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- @IronGargoyle: Inactive-unedited for more than a year, though, just like its editor who's been absent for more than a year. 😕🤷♂️ 🏺ⲈⲨⲐⲨⲘⲈⲚⲎⲊ🏛️ ⲱⲑⲏⲥⲁⲧⲉ 09:02, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- From what I can glean, this probably has sufficient notability for the logo to be educationally useful regardless of whether there is an article or active draft at the moment. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
ライセンス選択を間違えたため。 Nagata yamato (talk) 11:11, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
glitched version of File:Tvp2 hd.png AshOregano (talk) 11:14, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
{{duplicate|TVP3 Gorzów Wielkopolski (od 2 stycznia 2016).svg}} AshOregano (talk) 11:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
{{duplicate|TVP3 Gorzów Wielkopolski (od 2 stycznia 2016).svg}} AshOregano (talk) 11:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
{{duplicate|TVP ABC 2 (2022).svg}} AshOregano (talk) 11:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
{{duplicate|TVP.Info.HD.png}} AshOregano (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
ライセンス選択を間違えたため。 Nagata yamato (talk) 11:25, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Andyphan100 (talk · contribs)
[edit]Are these really simple enough?
Yann (talk) 11:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
The author of this photo is unknow, so we cannot be sure that he died before 1954. Leokand (talk) 11:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- The photo qualifies under criterion 2 of the attached Russian public domain tag ("This work was originally published anonymously or under a pseudonym..."). Neither the source cited for the image attributes an author nor does the full image from which this photo was extracted. Furthermore, in at least two earlier republications, attribution was not designated: in Georgiy Sviridov (1972; Arnold Sokhor) and Muzyka kak sudba (2002; Sviridov, ed. Alexander Belonenko). —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:03, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above: "This work was originally published anonymously or under a pseudonym". --RAN (talk) 07:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
These PDFs all appear to be out of COM:SCOPE for Commons, being nothing educational other than raw text.
- File:Sobre notas de rodapé - Os percursos da pesquisa nos artigos acadêmicos de História.pdf
- File:Resenhas - um gênero à margem entre os historiadores.pdf
- File:Presentation - Monarchy, Empire, and Popular Politics in the Atlantic Age of Revolutions.pdf
- File:Beyond Raymond Aron - The First Reception of Dilthey in France.pdf
- File:Materialidade dos escritos, constituição de acervos e a função-autor - Entrevista com Roger Chartier – Parte II.pdf
- File:Writing the History of the New World into Universal History - Colonial Chronologies and Astral Knowledge in Late-Seventeenth Century Spanish America.pdf
- File:Discursos libertinos, iluminismo e cultura religiosa no mundo luso-brasileiro ao final do século XVIII.pdf
- File:Culturas científicas sobre os oceanos na historiografia das ciências no Brasil.pdf
- File:Circuitos da boa vizinhança. Diplomacia cultural e intercâmbios educacionais entre Brasil e Estados Unidos durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial.pdf
- File:Cartas forais régias e costume - Portugal, séc. XII-XIII.pdf
- File:As vidas das obras - Reinvenção e circulação de textos.pdf
- File:Apresentação - Processos judiciais e escrita da história na América Latina.pdf
- File:A invenção de biografias, traduções e historiografia - Entrevista com Roger Chartier – Parte III.pdf
- File:A história segundo Cristina Kirchner.pdf
- File:A História e o protesto - Fios invisíveis entre movimentos sociais e História Social.pdf
- File:Temporalização no Supremo Tribunal Federal - ADPF 153, Lei da Anistia e usos performativos da História.pdf
- File:Tempo e História na aesthesis decolonial fílmica Mbyá-Guarani.pdf
- File:Sem nomes e sem histórias, mas amados - a escrita da história da escravidão em Perder a mãe, de Saidiya Hartman.pdf
- File:Seguimos numa busca incessante por um lugar - mulheres, natureza e cultura.pdf
- File:Redimensionando - uma forma de leitura crítica aplicada à Historik de Jörn Rüsen.pdf
- File:Passado futuro - o cronótopo da formação e sua crise em Os embaixadores, de Henry James.pdf
- File:O revisionismo histórico nas comemorações do golpe civil-militar de 1964 durante o governo Bolsonaro (2019-2022) - heranças autoritárias e encerramento do passado.pdf
- File:O látego e o riso - a historiografia republicana de Joaquim Felício dos Santos.pdf
- File:Mundo ao Revés - Silvia Rivera Cusicanqui e a criação de uma episteme visual para a América Andina.pdf
- File:Historiography and Collective Memory - a discussion on Yerushalmi’s Zakhor and its interpretations.pdf
- File:Figurações do canibalismo na história intelectual brasileira do século XX - ciências humanas, artes e temporalidades.pdf
- File:Entre o imperativo do arquivo e a retórica bandeirante - a constituição de um saber científico para a invenção do paulista.pdf
- File:Eliminando manchas brancas - um desmonte da car tografia indigenista de Curt Nimuendajú.pdf
- File:Disciplina e experiência - construindo uma comunidade de escuta na teoria e no ensino de história.pdf
- File:A atualização histórica como ação contra-atualista - museus e monumentos entre a recordação e o esquecimento no Brasil contemporâneo.pdf
- File:Do ponto de vista dos nossos Annales - a Revista dos Annales e a produção da história econômica e social 1929-1944.pdf
- File:Clio no espelho - um estado da arte sobre a história dos cursos superiores de História no Brasil.pdf
Belbury (talk) 14:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep All PDF files uploaded are within the scope of this project to serve as the basis of a reliable and verifiable source. See COM:SCOPE: However, Commons can be used to host such material if included in a shareable media file that is of use to one of the other Wikimedia Foundation-hosted (WMF) projects, so scanned copies of existing texts that are useful to other WMF projects (e.g. to serve as the basis of a reliable, verifiable source) are in scope. Furthmore, these PDF files are in no way related to content for other Wikimedia projects. Therefore, these appointments are in accordance with the Commons rules. Finally, the proponent of this discussion just forgot to finish writing the item mentioned: Purely textual material such as plain-text versions of recipes, lists of instructions, poetry, fiction, quotations, dictionary definitions, lesson plans or classroom material, and the like are better hosted elsewhere, for example at Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wiktionary, Wikiversity or Wikisource. It's not the case of these PDFs! WikiFer (talk) 21:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep All of these articles (at least the few I spot-checked) seem to be CC-BY licensed. Thus, they are perfect material for indices on the appropriate-language Wikisources. Duckmather (talk) 18:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
The person who sent me the image File:Cartel de defy par les escoliers des petites escoles - Orthographe française.jpg in its version of 20 August 2024 at 11:31 would like us to remove this version with his name associated with the comment: ‘Communiquée par Mme Lévecque-Stankiewicz’. I was not authorised to publish this version.
Is it possible to delete only one version of the image? If not, can we delete the associated commentary?
Best regards! --Etienne M (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
{{duplicate|Alfa TVP (2022).svg}} AshOregano (talk) 16:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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No evidence of own work. Seems to have been extracted from https://www.billienz.com/culture/my-version-jane-wills-shortland-street TheBritinator (talk) 17:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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https://www.fluminense.com.br/noticia/fluminense-acerta-a-contratacao-de-kevin-serna exact same user has uploaded exact same image as was deleted before (check my contribution history). This is a grave refusal of respecting others' copyrights, and of following Wikipedia Commons policy. Surely this is worth a block? Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
