Commons:Bureaucrats/Requests/AFBorchert
- Support = 30; Oppose = 1; Neutral = 0 - 97% Result: Successful. MichaelMaggs (talk) 18:33, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Scheduled to end 2015-06-02, towards the end of the day UTC
Links for candidate: AFBorchert (talk · contributions (views) · deleted user contributions · recent activity (talk · project · deletion requests) · logs · block log · global contribs · CentralAuth)
Dear Commons community.
As announced at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard I'm going to nominate some users for Bureaucratship today. For all candidatures please see: Commons:Bureaucrats/Requests.
Common reason for these nominations, as discussed at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard, is the apparent lack of active crats to fulfill their role as described in Commons:Bureaucrats#What is a bureaucrat?.
Candidates have signalized at their talk pages to accept the nomination, and are welcome to add a personal statement and formal acceptance below. Thank you, yours --Krd 00:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, Krd, for the nomination which I accept.
- At Commons, I'm active since 2005, got the admin bit in December 2008, and joined the support team in May 2009. I was continually active during the nearly ten years but never scored high in my activity levels due to my limited time. My main focus was in processing deletion requests with a particular interest in more complex cases, permission processes, and user problems. I strongly believe in community processes, i.e. beside trivial cases of copyvios and vandals, we should invite comments, listen to them, and, where possible and within our policies, try to find a consensus. I see the 'crats per Commons:Bureaucrats#Community role primarily in a role where the community and community processes are fostered. Only when people are respected, their voices heard, their opinions taken into consideration, we will have an inviting community from which we will find much-needed admins and OTRS agents who will competently help to work through the ever-growing backlogs. Copyright issues and permission problems can be complex and often very frustrating for newcomers. It is essential that we are inviting and welcoming to all the contributors coming from the other WMF projects, and that we guide them through these processes. This does not only help them to solve a particular problem but makes them subsequently part of this community where they get involved and start to learn all these things, which in turn allows them to help others. I am also familiar with other WMF projects including multiple Wikipedia projects (mainly de:wp where I am admin since July 2014) and smaller projects like Wikisource. The interaction climate between Commons and other projects is always one of my concerns. In this context I try to work against a “we against them” attitude by supporting a mutual understanding (see, for example, this presentation I made for an admin meeting of de:wp). --AFBorchert (talk) 08:50, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Votes
- Support - Green Giant (talk) 00:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support Jee 01:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support. -- Simply because he was the responsible adult in many cases. Trying to mediate in admin conflict cases as like bureaucrat should do, even without being a crat. Geagea (talk) 05:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support very well thought comments, always -- Rillke(q?) 06:02, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 08:53, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support Always wise in heated discussions, I think you'll make a good addition to the bureaucrat team. --PierreSelim (talk) 10:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support per PierreSelim and Geagea. A person who knows how to judge consensus and resolve conflicts is the best candidate to be a bureaucrat. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 10:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support AFBorchert is a fine admin, and their response to Rschen7754's topical question shows respect and maturity to dealing with sensitive issues while looking out for the interests of the community. ColonialGrid (talk) 10:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support I am very impressed by AFBorchert's careful analysis of difficult deletions. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support /Ch1902 (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support Ankry (talk) 17:57, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support I have only good things to say about AFBorchert. Whenever I have seen his comments I have seen them as wise and cool-headed. I think you will be a great asset to the 'crat team. -- Slaunger (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support --MichaelMaggs (talk) 19:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Michael (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support experienced and trustworthy administrator who will make an excellent bureaucrat. Nick (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support the mediation has been noticed. --Abd (talk) 20:14, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support INeverCry 21:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Ymblanter (talk) 11:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support We are not always on the same page. That's why. :-) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 19:18, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support - Tiptoety talk 09:30, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support No reason not to support. Trijnsteltalk 17:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support Raymond 08:12, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Nihil obstat. Érico Wouters (msg) 22:28, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Strong support --Túrelio (talk) 07:34, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support Sufficient answers to the questions below, in my opinion. --Stefan4 (talk) 20:48, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support without hesitation. --99of9 (talk) 00:48, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support rubin16 (talk) 07:17, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support — Racconish 📥 07:41, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose Imho not active enough. Only ~3000 adminactions here on commons. --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:38, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support Kaldari (talk) 08:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Comments
- Much of the recent drama surrounding the position of bureaucrat on this wiki has centered around local restoration of administrator rights that were removed globally, by stewards or the WMF: i.e. [1][2] [3][4] If a situation like this arose in the future, how would you handle it? --Rschen7754 01:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- I would not handle it by any unilateral action but by opening a community process regarding a particular case and by possibly defending the project at Meta against any action that appears to be out of process. --AFBorchert (talk) 08:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Krd: As nominator, please could you make the case that these people are suited to the position? (i.e. Why did you choose them in particular?) Alternately the candidates may wish to suggest reasons they are suitable to take up the position. Thanks. --99of9 (talk) 01:31, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- The candidates are those suggested at the corresponding discussion at the BNB. My though as nominator was to not express my personal preference for any of those candidates by writing individual praise essays; this may or may not have been a good idea. Anyway I without any doubt can support all of those candidates. All are active and respected Commons admins, and the group to my opinion is well spread over timezones, home wikis and interests.
- If I'm not mistaken we currently don't have recruitment processes for the advanced roles besides self nominations, so we maybe should get some more active crats first to take care of such things. If there is a better approach, please advise. Thank you. --Krd 07:39, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @AFBorchert: ! I noticed you uploaded files like this one for use on Messina userspace on dewiki. Do you uploads this files on Messinas (well known sockpuppeter) behalf? Do you plan to act on dewiki arbcom's behalf on common? Do you plan to unblock the sockpuppeter here on commons? Are you aware of the recent incidents, including offwiki intimidation of commons admins? I see a lot of edits on Messinas usertalkpage on dewiki, can you explain please? Thanks in advance. --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am very well aware of this. In regard to Messina, I tried to convince the de:wp arbcom (Schiedsgericht) to find a solution where Messina can upload pictures at de:wp and which would help to disburden Commons in this regard. But I was unfortunately not successful. Since then I've uploaded some public domain material at Commons which is helpful to him in the hope that his socking activity at Commons slows down (see categories Category:De accentibus, et orthographia, linguae Hebraicae and Category:Cantillation by Francis L. Cohen). I do this also as I find this topic interesting. I'm not acting as a proxy, as I rejected the transfer of a couple of images from en:wp he is interested in (mainly because their description and source is insufficient, in my opinion) and looked instead for free alternatives. Please note that due to the arbcom decision, all articles written by Messina must be approved by an admin before being moved into the regular article space. Hence, I am also naturally involved in this case as admin at de:wp who processes such requests. My contributions at de:Benutzer:Messina/Diskussionen zu Entwürfen are to be seen in this context. --AFBorchert (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks @AFBorchert: , Pleas allow me to ask you + two questions. Do you block socks of Messina when you notice them here on commons? Do you think it would be ok to unblock Messina here under special circumstances? Thanks again. :-) --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- His sockets can surely be blocked on sight as they violate his block. (There is, however, probably not much is gained from this as it appears easier to create new accounts than to remember the credentials of an old one.) Currently, I am very sceptical if we can work out something to unblock him at Commons under restrictions. His restrictions at de:wp are believed to work only as they are enforced through filter rules. However, he never resumed socking again at de:wp since he is allowed to work under these restrictions. But this configuration cannot be transfered to Commons, uploads here cannot have a draft status and are either copyvios or not, they need a proper source and proof of their copyright status. This is different from writing articles where support can be given and a draft can grow into something that can be accepted as article. --AFBorchert (talk) 18:05, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- I have one more question, why did you pick this option and not one of the other ones? Natuur12 (talk) 00:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Could you please clarify your question? To which option do you refer to? --AFBorchert (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well, blocking the socks and nuking the uploads is another option for example and I am pretty sure that there are more possible ways to handel those socks. Natuur12 (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- In case of nuking the uploads, you must be careful not to delete images which have been successfully transfered from other projects (like en:wp) and in the meantime deleted in the original project (like in this case). Hence, as usual I would recommend to take a look at the uploads before nuking them blindly without any further consideration. If in doubt, it can be helpful to discuss such cases at COM:AN/U or to file a mass deletion request. In this particular case I tried to find approaches (as elaborated above) which help to slow down this socket activity. --AFBorchert (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well, blocking the socks and nuking the uploads is another option for example and I am pretty sure that there are more possible ways to handel those socks. Natuur12 (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Could you please clarify your question? To which option do you refer to? --AFBorchert (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- I have one more question, why did you pick this option and not one of the other ones? Natuur12 (talk) 00:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- His sockets can surely be blocked on sight as they violate his block. (There is, however, probably not much is gained from this as it appears easier to create new accounts than to remember the credentials of an old one.) Currently, I am very sceptical if we can work out something to unblock him at Commons under restrictions. His restrictions at de:wp are believed to work only as they are enforced through filter rules. However, he never resumed socking again at de:wp since he is allowed to work under these restrictions. But this configuration cannot be transfered to Commons, uploads here cannot have a draft status and are either copyvios or not, they need a proper source and proof of their copyright status. This is different from writing articles where support can be given and a draft can grow into something that can be accepted as article. --AFBorchert (talk) 18:05, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks @AFBorchert: , Pleas allow me to ask you + two questions. Do you block socks of Messina when you notice them here on commons? Do you think it would be ok to unblock Messina here under special circumstances? Thanks again. :-) --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:45, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
- I am very well aware of this. In regard to Messina, I tried to convince the de:wp arbcom (Schiedsgericht) to find a solution where Messina can upload pictures at de:wp and which would help to disburden Commons in this regard. But I was unfortunately not successful. Since then I've uploaded some public domain material at Commons which is helpful to him in the hope that his socking activity at Commons slows down (see categories Category:De accentibus, et orthographia, linguae Hebraicae and Category:Cantillation by Francis L. Cohen). I do this also as I find this topic interesting. I'm not acting as a proxy, as I rejected the transfer of a couple of images from en:wp he is interested in (mainly because their description and source is insufficient, in my opinion) and looked instead for free alternatives. Please note that due to the arbcom decision, all articles written by Messina must be approved by an admin before being moved into the regular article space. Hence, I am also naturally involved in this case as admin at de:wp who processes such requests. My contributions at de:Benutzer:Messina/Diskussionen zu Entwürfen are to be seen in this context. --AFBorchert (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2015 (UTC)