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Микола Василечко (talk) 17:11, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

нема чим зайнятись?... Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 20:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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нема чим зайнятись?... Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 20:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Микола Василечко (talk) 16:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:T.H.Shevchenko Mukhavka.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Микола Василечко (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Чоловіче, що тобі не подобається???
Це фото робив я сам особисто в себе в селі кілька років тому.
Зараз памятник перефарбований з сірого в золотистий колір!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Микола Василечко (talk) 16:27, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

і це фото з особистого сімейного альбому, як і в кожного мешканця села, які були на посвяченні церкви!!!
Що тобі не подобається???? Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Микола Василечко (talk) 16:47, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ну... зображення мапи з інтернету...
як і що виправити??? Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 19:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Микола Василечко (talk) 16:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Що тобі не подобається????
просто фото з дрона! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:57, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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ну... зображення мапи з інтернету...
в кого питати ліцензії - в австрійського генштабу???
Або підкажи, що ти хочеш?
що виправити??? Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 19:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Чоловіче, та що ти не вгамуєшся!!!
Фото моє!!!
Виставивй його у статусі: "Цей файл перебуває у суспільному надбанні"
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Я жуву в цьому селі де зроблено фото, я автор цього фото, в чому проблема??? Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 17:27, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Я ж вказав всі дані:
Опис: о. Володимир Тарнавський
Час створення: 2014
Джерело: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5aqSfqyqfn-WmpvVUg3OHUzc3M/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-GouS-UC7dGQBNHfpC737IA
Автор: Тернопільщина Історія міст і сіл. Т.3
Ліцензія: https://tor.gov.ua/?id=292
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Підкажи в чому твоя проблема!!!
Я виставив своє фото, церкви з свого села, а ти його постійно видаляєш!!!
Всі публічні параметри фото повиставляв!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Це фото сучасної церкви в Україні. Без дозволу архітектора (який, можливо, помер понад 70 років тому) або інформації про те, коли він був спроектований (більше 70 років тому), ми не можемо прийняти його за COM:FOP Ukraine/uk. Див. COM:EVID/uk і COM:DW.
This is a photo of a modern-looking church in Ukraine. Without permission from the architect (who may have died more than 70 years ago), or info about when it was designed (more than 70 years ago), we cannot accept it per COM:FOP Ukraine. See COM:EVID and COM:DW.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 18:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Церкву почали будувати в 1926 році!!!
Тобто хто б його там не проектував, то пройшло вже більше 70 років! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Але не обов’язково після смерті архітектора. - Jmabel ! talk 19:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ну... на Вікіпедії тисячі фото, в них у всіх зазаначено дозвіл від архітектора?...
Повидаляйте їх також!!!
Маразм!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 19:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jeff G., Jmabel Я не мав на увазі Свободу панорами та авторське право, коли поставив шаблон. У мене є вагомі підстави сумніватися, що завантажувач є автором цих файлів. У цьому випадку він дає посилання на Фейсбук, яке не є точним, точне посилання на світлину там, де нема жодної ліцензії, на яку він посилається. Автором зазначає "Парафія Пр. Параскеви Терновської с. Мухавка". Користувач вводить в оману. І це не вперше, достатньо глянути на серію його завантажень ставка з відео на YouTube. Користувач вводить в оману цілою серією завантажень копій Шематизмів, зазначаючи, що він є автором. Про NoFoP також є повторне завантаження після вилучення. Користувач зовсім не розуміє правил Вікісховища, що стосуються авторського права. --Микола Василечко (talk) 20:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Микола Василечко: Будь ласка, висловлюйте свою думку на COM:ANU#User:Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk. Please feel free to express your opinion at COM:ANU#User:Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Та видаляйте, ви ж круті профі!!!
    Люди ж села і з діаспори, які зараз вдячні за ці статті про село.
    Будуть і вам "вдячні" за вашу роботу повязану з видаленням фото їх церкви!!!
    Я собі лаврів ніяких на беру!!!
    А ви продовжуйте і далі бути такими ж "правильними"... Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 07:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Фото яке ви хочете видалити моє.
    Робив я його літом і оригінал його на на іншому пристрої, тому і було посилання на фейсбук де я виставляв фото.
    Просто смішно виглядає ваша робота... видаляти фото мешканця села,який виставляє фото свого села...
    Та займіться чимось кориснішим кінець-кінців! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 07:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Романе Івановичу, шановний. Розумієте, це американський проект. У ньому діє американський закон. Подобається це нам чи не подобається, але цей закон ось такий, який є. Нехай це ваше власне фото, але якщо ви спочатку його завантажили на Фейсбук, то потім уже не можете завантажити сюди: треба піти та сфотографувати ще раз. Але оскільки ви не знаєте, хто архітектор цієї церкви, а споруда є сучасна, - завантажити це фото треба буде не на Вікісховище, а до вашого українського розділу Вікіпедії. Ось так це працює, тут немає жодної образи вам чи вашим односельцям. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 15:37, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Я то сфотографую звісно...
    Вашу правильність та більш корисне русло))
    Я розумію якби я якусь Мону лізу виставляв, а то фото церкви в свому селі...
    І тра прям всесвітній апокаліпсис з цього робити!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 15:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Микола Василечко: Я з цієї дискусії так і не зрозумів, хто ж архітектор цієї церкви.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 17:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anatoliy, я теж. І вже зазначив вище, я не про Свободу панорами в цьому конкретному випадку поставив шаблон. Свобода панорами порушена в завантаженнях пам’ятника Шевченку. А в цьому випадку маю майже стовідсоткове переконання, що завантажувач не є автором світлини. І сумніваюся, що він керує сторінкою парафії у Фейсбуку, звідки цей файл (можливо й інші). Користувач є типовим представником великого прошарку людей, які звикли брати будь-що в інтернеті й видавати за своє, бо так навчені зі шкільної парти. Яскравий приклад у цьому випадку — завантаження файлу ставка з відео на ЮТубі. --Микола Василечко (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ahonc: Але тут чекаю на дискусію. Бо питання вже трохи обговорювалося на сторінках користувачів, але десь мені загубилося. Адже і цей користувач завантажив User_talk:Roman_Ivanovych_Kovalchuk#Статус_файлу_File:Володимир_Тарнавський.jpg один файл з іншої серії книг, де є дозвіл на сайті облради. У книгах копірайт, а на сайти понатицювали CC-BY-CA без розуміння, що воно й до чого. --Микола Василечко (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk: Хто автор цього фото? Якщо це фото не ваше, то потрібен дозвіл від автора.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 17:58, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Та звісно фото моє.
Виставив як своє - ні не підходить - не правильно дані заповнені - видалили!!!
Оригінал фото на іншому пристрої.
Тому залив ще раз але з посиланням на сторінку парафії на фейсбуці де я виставляв фото - ні знову не так, так не можна, архітектора ще треба (прям всі фото з архітекторами, а тут прям моє фото без архітектора))
Тому і виходить така боротьба з вітряними млинами!!!
Звісно я можу зробити ще раз фото, але зараз зима і фото таким красивим, як літом вже не буде!!!
От такі то справи... якби це все не стосувалось рідного села, то плюнив би давно чесне слово... так дістало... Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:07, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
У вас є доступ до редагування сторінки парафії у Фейсбуці? Якщо так, напишіть в описі фото, що воно поширюється на умовах вільної ліцензії Criative Commons Attribution 3.0. Тоді не буде проблем з підтвердженням авторства.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 18:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Андрей Романенко and Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk: "Нехай це ваше власне фото, але якщо ви спочатку його завантажили на Фейсбук, то потім уже не можете завантажити сюди: треба піти та сфотографувати ще раз." No, that is not the case, but at this point we get way past what I can hope to say in Ukrainian, even with help from Google Translate. Edit the public Facebook post, which you presumably still can access, and say overtly that this account (User:Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk is the same person as the Facebook account. Also, on the Facebook post, indicate that you intend to release it under CC-0. Then link the individual post, not the Facebook page, as the source. You can get the link for an individual Facebook post by clicking the timestamp of the post on Facebook. In this case that appears to be https://www.facebook.com/107523344250861/photos/a.107628757573653/107628734240322/. - Jmabel ! talk 18:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand: if the building is new enough that it is still copyrighted -- that is, if the architect either is alive or died less than 70 years ago -- then under Ukrainian copyright law, we still can't host a picture of the photo without an explicit license from the architect or the heir to their intellectual property. Do you know when the church was built? - Jmabel ! talk 18:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
А якщо ще раз завантажити на вікіпедію оригінальне фото з носія на який було зроблене фото?...
Там в мета даних буде ж зазаначена дата зйомки?... тому тада публікації на фейсбуці буде пізніше... Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 18:28, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Саме так — оригінали з метадатою! І перечитайте правила Вікісховища і Закон України про авторські права та суміжні права, тоді й не буде у пана істерики з шаблонами. Чому постійно треба кожному до дрібниць розжовувати правила, якщо майже все вже написано? Хіба в шаблонах не було посилань на правила? Були! --Микола Василечко (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ну якщо вам простіше завантажити оригінальне фото, ніж відредагувати опис, то можна і так. Метадані не є 100-відостково надійним джерелом, їх можна відредагувати.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 21:57, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Церкву почали будувати у 1920-ті роки. Але закінчили вже після радянської влади. Тому незрозуміло, від якого часу діє копірайт. Тож надійніше фото церкви завантажити в український розділ. Так, звісно, з оригінального пристрою. @Jmabel: , please be sure that I am aware about different solutions of this problem but it is not so simple task to explain them to people unaware about the whole topic of copyright. The Facebook page belongs to the church community, it would be strange if they would meet their visitors with copyright explanations. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 19:01, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Андрей Романенко: I see: it is posted on the church's account, not his own, I didn't notice that. But it would presumably be OK for the to say on a comment on the thread that it was a photo he took, and for him to add on the same thread that he releases it under a CC-0 license. Again, though, if the building is still possibly copyrighted, then the rest of this is moot. (Completion date is irrelevant, though: copyrights normally belong to the architect, and unless the plans changed, the delayed execution shouldn't affect copyright.)
    Also, what exactly do you mean by "український розділ"? The Ukrainian-language Wikipedia? What is their policy on non-free use? - Jmabel ! talk 19:42, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly, I mean uk.wiki. They accept fair-use, see their rule here. Пане Романе, зверніть увагу, будь ласка: uk:Вікіпедія:Критерії добропорядного використання. Andrei Romanenko (talk)
    Ну український розділ це ж не звалище невільних фото. Не можна туди вантажити все, що не так лежить у Вікісховищі.
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Це моє фото!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Зроблене мною на мій власний фотоапарат Олімпус в 2005 році!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Скільки можна видаляти фото чи блокувати мене??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 08:07, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Пам'ятник Тарасові Шевченку (Мухавка).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Микола Василечко (talk) 19:12, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Це моє фото!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Зроблене мною на мій власний фотоапарат Олімпус в 2005 році!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Скільки можна видаляти фото чи блокувати мене??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 08:09, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Через Google Translate.) Прочитайте запит на видалення та дайте відповідь там (Commons:Deletion requests/File:Пам'ятник Тарасові Шевченку (Мухавка).jpg), а не тут. Ніхто не сумнівається, що ви зробили фото. Проблема в тому, що сфотографована вами річ захищена авторським правом. - Jmabel ! talk 18:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Яким???
Що я порушив?...
Я сфотографував памятник в публічному місці!!!
Я що привласний собі сам памятник???
Посто виставив для ілюстрації памятникав в своєму селі власноруч зроблене фото!!!!!!!!!!!!
Не шукайте чорного кота в чорній кімнаті, якщо його там і нема!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roman Ivanovych Kovalchuk (talk) 11:10, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]