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How to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category

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Thanks for your advice! I wouldn't know that, RStehn (talk) 08:04, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Kategorisierungen

Moin Rüdiger, als geborener Kieler kann ich dein Engagement für die Kieler Kategorien durchaus verstehen. Aber bitte kategorisiere nicht einfach drauf los und überprüfe vorab den Inhalt der Kategorien, das erspart dir und uns eine Menge Nacharbeit. Gruß Ein Dahmer (talk) 16:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Moin Ein Dahmer!

Danke für die Überarbeitung! RStehn (talk) 08:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Kulturministerium Schleswig-Holstein

What is your intent with Category:Kulturministerium Schleswig-Holstein? You created a category with no parent, a nowiki'd name of another category, and no files or subcats in the category. Should it just be deleted? - Jmabel ! talk 03:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I made a misspelling and forgot that the category Kulturministerium (instead Kultusministerium) would be deleted. Yes, please, delete it!

Thanks again RStehn (talk) 08:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hi RStehn. I noticed that you blanked this redirect, asking another admin to "Please delete or undo". May I ask why? Best, —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Urbahns x2

Hallo RStehn,

du hast bei einigen Fotos die Zuordnung geändert, von Ferdinand Urbahns (gestorben 1944) zu dessen gleichnamigem Sohn (gestorben 1978). Bist du in diesen Fällen jeweils sicher, dass der Sohn und nicht der Vater der Fotograf war? Eine Konsequenz wäre dann nämlich, dass diese Fotos in Deutschland noch nicht gemeinfrei sind und wir sie deshalb löschen müssen (Commons:Licensing/de: Wikimedia Commons akzeptiert nur Medien, die ausdrücklich unter einer Freien Lizenz stehen oder zumindest in den Vereinigten Staaten und im Herkunftsland gemeinfrei sind). Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 09:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Moin!

Zwar war ich sicher, aber die Stadtarchiv Kiel hat mehr Quellen zur Verfügung. Ich habe es verändern. Danke für die Anmerkung!

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RStehn (talk) 10:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

How to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category

When you want to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category, best practice is to mark it with {{SD|C2}} if it would be OK to re-create it in the future, given that appropriate content becomes available or {{SD|C1}} if it is an inappropriate category name that should not be reused. In particular, this is better practice than just blanking the category page, as you did at Category:Wohn- und Geschäftshaus Feldstraße 88. ("C1" and "C2" come from Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion). Jmabel ! talk 06:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

And, similarly again for Category:St.-Jürgen-Kirche (Kiel). I happen to have come across it pretty quickly, but we shouldn't be relying on that. - Jmabel ! talk 04:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Only in the case of spelling mistakes in the category title SD|C1 (improperly named category, example "St.-Jürgen-Kurche (Kiel)"); otherwise SD|C2 only in the case of category titles that lead to misunderstandings or require clarification, right?

Example: Pictures of a St. Jürgen Church and the St. Jürgen Chapel in Kiel should be sorted into three new categories: Category:St.-Jürgen-Kapelle (Kiel) and Category:St.-Jürgen- Kirche Kiel (1906) (initially both sorted in Category:St.-Jürgen-Kirche (Kiel)), and Category:St.-Jürgen-Kirche Kiel (1956) (initially sorted in main Category:St. Jürgen (Kiel)) Regards RStehn (talk) 06:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I didn't see this till now (I don't have your user page on my watchlist, and you didn't ping me). C1 would also apply (for example) to singular names that should be plural, just plain nonsense names, and other "very wrong" names or bad category concepts ("Category:Old buildings in cities", "Category:Cars by name", "Category:Pretty women", etc.). - Jmabel ! talk 23:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Wochenmarkt/Straßenmarkt

Hallo! Zwei Änderungen deinerseits bringen mich ein wenig ins Grübeln. Was mag denn der Unterschied zwischen einem Wochenmarkt (Market) und Straßenmarkt (Street market) sein? Es hört sich nach regionalen und unterschiedlichen Betrachtungsweisen an. Hier in Nordrhein-Westfalen würde ich die Wochenmärkte nicht als Straßenmärkte bezeichnen, auch wenn sie auf Plätzen im öffentlichen Raum stattfinden. Irgendwie habe ich den Eindruck, dass es schwer abzugrenzen ist. "Market" steht zwar für Wochenmarkt, ist aber doch relativ allgemein. "Street market" deutet auf den Ort hin. Ist ein Weihnachtsmarkt auf einem öffentlichen Platz dann auch ein Straßenmarkt? Ist ein Straßenmarkt immer ein Wochenmarkt? Hmm. --XRay 💬 07:48, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Um das noch zu ergänzen: Schau dir mal market (Q132510) an. "Markets" ist bereits als Wochenmarkt definiert. --XRay 💬 07:54, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Moin! Es bringt mich auch in Grübeln (wie vieles beim Kategorisieren). Meine Erachtens ist Street markets ein Standardkategorietitel unter Category:Markets by type und Category:Street retail. Insoweit können man z. B. die Unterkategorie der Category:Wochenmarkt in Kiel in Category:Street markets in Kiel verschieben und Wochenmarkt in ... löschen oder als Weiterleitung nutzen.

Der Wochenmarkt (Q132510) scheint nicht zur Category:Markets zu passen, besser wäre die Common Category:Street markets. RStehn (talk) 06:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Du bist nicht der Einzige, der öfter grübelt. Ich erinnere mich an interessante Diskussionen rund um "Kindergarten" und "Roads and streets", die in unterschiedlichen Ländern ganz und gar unterschiedliche Bedeutungen haben können. Da ging die Kategorisierung so gut wie gar nicht und läuft logischerweise auf einen für alle nicht wirklich passenden Kompromiss hinaus. Hier sehe ich das so: "Markets" ist eher allgemein und nicht nur ein Wochenmarkt. Die Verknüpfung mit der Wikidata-Id ist also falsch. Ein Wochenmarkt kann auf der Straße, aber auch in der Halle stattfinden. Das Kennzeichen ist der zeitliche Rhythmus. Ein Straßenmarkt findet auf einer Straße oder einem Platz statt, also eine Ortsabhängigkeit. Mit anderen Worten: Ein Markt wie in Lübeck oder Münster findet auf einem Platz und wöchentlich (in Münster an zwei Tagen in der Woche) statt. So ein Markt ist also ein Wochenmarkt, Straßenmarkt, Blumenmarkt, Käsemarkt, Obst- und Gemüsemarkt, ... - aber kein Trödelmarkt und auch kein Jahrmarkt und keine Kirmes. Vielleicht sollten wir das (ohne große Diskussion) einfach gerade rücken. Diskussionen sind in solchen Fällen eher langwierig und ohne richtige Ergebnisse. Was meinst du? --XRay 💬 10:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Es geht schon bei der Übersetzung los. Ich habe gerade mal geschaut, was "Wochenmarkt" auf Englisch heißt. (Mein Englisch geht, ist aber nicht wirklich gut.) Farmer's Market kam dabei heraus. Hier findet sich aber auch Weekly Market - aber nicht als Kategorie. --XRay 💬 10:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Beaches of Usedom

Hallo, du hast diese Kategorie bei Category:Beaches of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern on the Baltic coast eingeordnet. Damit hast du auch die Category:Świnoujście beach on Usedom für den Strandabschnitt der polnischen Stadt Świnoujście bei Mecklenburg-Vorpommern eingeordnet. Da die Insel Usedom nunmal zwischen Deutschland und Polen aufgeteilt ist, halte ich die Zuordnung aller Strände zu MV für unpräzise. --Erell (talk) 13:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Danke dir! Ich hoffe, es ist ein wenig besser (Category:Beaches of Usedom) Eigentlich wollte ich die Strände Schleswig-Holstein kategorisieren ... RStehn (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Please don't blank pages

Hi RStehn,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed you blanked a page on Commons. If you meant for the page to be deleted, blanking the page is not the right way to do this. A simple real-world comparison to illustrate: You removed the entire text of a page from a thick folder, but the then empty, useless page itself remained in the folder.

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For redirects use #REDIRECT[[Target]] or {{category redirect|Targetcategoryname}}. For more information please read Blanking. Thanks again. Jonteemil (talk) 20:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Hallo Jonteemil! Tut mir leid, mein Fehler! Ich wollte eine Weiterleitung und Umbenennung das Dateinamen bei einigen meiner Fotos zurücknehmen, die der Admin AnRo0002 gemacht hat. Das war unnötig und für mich entstehen Probleme (siehe auch User_talk:AnRo0002#Dateiumbenennungen, User_talk:AnRo0002#Wilde_Möhre_/_Pfaffenhütchen und User_talk:AnRo0002#Wilde_Möhre_/_Pfaffenhütchen).

Nochmals Entschuldigung! RStehn (talk) 08:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

"Historical images" categories

Please see Commons:Categories for discussion/2019/09/Category:Historical images. It's pretty clear from it that the consensus is to move away from "historical images" categories for ones called "history of." So maybe respect the outcome and don't edit war me over it. Thanks. Adamant1 (talk) 07:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Adamant1! I wouldn't know and I started to write a comment on your talk page. RStehn (talk) 08:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

No worries. It's kind of obscure and people are still creating the categories. So it's not a super big deal. The main thing is just that get cleaned up going forward. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Kornkammer (Burg Stolpen)

Hallo RStehn,

danke für deinen Beitrag zur Burg Stolpen. Ich wollte soeben die noch nicht kategorisierten Bilder der Burg Stolpen zuordnen, da bin ich über Category:Kornkammer (Burg Stolpen) gestolpert. Kann die Kategorie noch in Category:Kornhaus (Burg Stolpen) umbenannt werden? Lt. Infotafel File:Ansichten Burg Stolpen 2.jpg ist die Kornkammmer nur ein Teil vom Kornhaus. Oder soll ich die Kategorie Category:Kornhaus (Burg Stolpen) einfach neu erstellen und dann die Category:Kornkammer (Burg Stolpen) dieser Kategorie unterordnen? Falls umbenannt wird, müsste dann Category:Interior of Kornkammer (Burg Stolpen) analog angepasst werden? Ich bin für eine Umbenennung, da das Gebäude selbst als "Kornhaus" bezeichnet wird. Rigorius (talk) 13:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Moin!

Du hast recht! Ich finde auch die Category:Kornhaus (Burg Stolpen) besser.

Anfangs wollte ich die Kategorie auch Kornhaus nennen, bemerkt aber (vielleicht fälschlich?),  dass das Gebäude anscheinend heute Kornkammer heißt (Standesamt, Restaurant). Da auch im Artikel der de.wikipedia über die Burg Stolpen das Kornhaus beschreibt, ist es historisch richtig.

Da ich denn Fehler gemacht habe, habe ich es die Category:Kornhaus (Burg Stolpen) und Category:Interior of Kornhaus (Burg Stolpen) angelegt. RStehn (talk) 14:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Rigorius (talk) 14:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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Bitte bleiben lassen

Hallo RStehn,

lass so etwas bitte bleiben. Theilmann ist 1991 gestorben, seine Werke sind also noch einige Jahrzehnte urheberrechtlich geschützt. Der Warntext hat also seine Gründe. Grüße --Rosenzweig τ 12:19, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Moin Rosenzweig!

Sehe ich das richtig:

Es ist nicht mehr erlaubt, Fotos der Kunstwerke von Theilmann, die im öffentlichen Raum stehen, an Gebäuden stehen oder Teil von Gebäuden sind und die man auf öffentlichen Straßen und Plätzen zu sehen sind, auf wikimedia common hochzuladen?

Da muß man wohl mit seinen Bilder nach de.wikipedia wechseln ...

Ich habe nichts gegen den Hinweistext, aber gegen die Category:NoUploads until 2062, weil sie mehr als irreführend sind. Nicht jeder ist Administrator, der etwas zu wikimedia common beitragen möchte.

Rüdiger Stehn (talk) 13:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Hallo RStehn,

nein, das siehst du falsch. Im Warnbaustein steht “[...] es sei denn, sie fallen unter eine der folgenden Ausnahmen: [...] Das Foto des Werkes fällt unter eine gesetzliche Ausnahme wie die Panoramafreiheit oder de minimis (unwesentliches Beiwerk).” Die Panoramafreiheit ist das, worauf du abzielst. Nicht zulässig sind hingegen Aufnahmen von Werken Theilmanns, die nicht von einer der Ausnahmen wie Panoramafreiheit erfasst werden. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 23:45, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Moin Rosenzweig!

Selbst irreführend geschrieben, was ich sagen wollte:

Die Kategorie NoUploads until 2062 (Kein Hochladen bis 2062) ist nicht mit der Hinweistext zu Lizenzen gleichzusetzen.

„NoUploads until 2062“ steht am Anfang der Kategorien und damit sieht ein User am Anfang der Kategorieseite Fritz Theilmann.

Auf der Kategorieseite NoUploads until 2062 erfährt man nichts weiter zu Lizenzen und auch nicht in der Seite der Überkategorie NoUpdate.

Also: war der Lizenzentext falsch oder war es ein Fehlkategorisierung (wie ich glaubte)?

Deshalb mein Gedanke: die Kategorien „NoUploads until ...“ erhalten Beschreibungen (nochmals Text zu Lizenzen und Hinweis, dass es sich um eine Kategorie zur Verwaltung und Wartung von Wikimedia Commons handelt) und möglichst als versteckte Kategorie.

Gruß Rüdiger Stehn (talk) 07:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Also die Kategorie lässt sich mit dem Parameter __HIDDENCAT__ (in der Kategorie) verstecken. Und wenn man {{NoUploads}} oben auf der Kategorieseite einfügt, steht zumindest mal der Warntext auch in der Kategorie. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 07:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Rüdiger Stehn (talk) 08:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)