User talk:Magog the Ogre/Archive 21

Walter Schunack Foto

Walter Schunack (2010)

Licence was added Eichstegener (talk) 02:37, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Login into mass cleanup tool does not work

When i click login in the mass cleanup tool i get to the identify verfier page. When then clicking authorize the tool i get to the OAuth asking for access to meta.wikimedia.org. After accepting it, i get an empty page. When reloading the mass cleanup tool i see that i am still not logged in. Can you please help? --Arnd (talk) 15:07, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

@Aschroet: try that again. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:32, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Works now, merci. --Arnd (talk) 03:57, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Bussa statue.png

I've answered at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bussa statue.png.Ionutzmovie (talk) 02:08, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Don't take it easy

Please. And respond quickly. The "File: Sopa de la cazuela" is my own work. The soup itself also. I am away from my computer and the one I used for that file had some browser issue for which reason I could not use the conventional upload assistant. Now I am writing, difficultly, from a mobile phone. As you see I am not an internet magician. (Good at cooking though. :) Please be a good saamaritan and correct the things in my name. --E4024 (talk) 12:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

@E4024: esa es la fuente, pero necesita la licencia también. Sólo tú puedes proveer una licencia al contenido que creaste. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:28, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Done! (I hope. :) Cheers. --E4024 (talk) 08:10, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Re:Copyright status: File:Handleiding 1Lib1Ref Nederlands.pdf

Thanks for pointing this out, I was not aware of that option. I'll adjust the copyright tag asap. --OlafJanssen (talk) 11:40, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Washington Governor Election Results by County, 2016.svg

Hello. I'm letting you know that the image for the Washington State gubernatorial election results needs to be updated. Clallam County and Whitman County both voted Republican, but the map shows them as voting Democratic. Thank you for your assistance. Display name 99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Display name 99 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@Display name 99: thanks for the reminder. I need to update all these maps per official results. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:12, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

help

what is commons autoconfirmed user? Zejjon (talk) 10:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Answered here and here. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:59, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Magog the Ogre!

Happy New Year!

Magog the Ogre, a new year is like a blank book, the pen is in your hands. It is your chance to write a beautiful story for yourself! Happy New Year 2017. Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 18:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Date cleanup issue

A potential issue in date cleanup (example)—my understanding was not to put "September 1916" as "1916-09" lest it be confused as a year range rather than as a month+year.  czar 19:01, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: the template will automatically parse 1916-09 into September 1916 in the user's local language. The only effect of typing September is to make the text non-international. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks—just wanted to point out that it doesn't work for year ranges (which is why that format is not allowed in Wikipedia Citation Style 1 references). I imagine that's an edge case for the template, but a case nonetheless czar 21:45, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: Sure it does. Use 1911-1912 instead of 1911-12. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 21:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Right, I didn't mean that it doesn't work for ranges at all, but that it has a greater chance for error & ambiguity, hence why it's barred in CS1. In any event, looks like something to take up on the template's page. czar 21:59, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Broken bot

Ogrebot's attempts to polish some of my recent uploads have made things worse:

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Line_of_tinware.jpg&curid=54514078&diff=227896002&oldid=227736111
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Theodore_Frelinghuysen_Jewell.jpg&curid=54514077&diff=227896004&oldid=227736110
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Satterfield_cartoon_about_summer_being_accompanied_by_mosquitos.jpg&curid=54512667&diff=227895970&oldid=227731905

etc, etc. I doubt I'm the only one thus affected. Fix please? DS (talk) 15:30, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven: the page had parsing errors on it. If a page doesn't have parsing errors, OgreBot shouldn't make that edit. I believe I put that feature in (adding author to the information template) as someone's request, although I can't find it for the life of me. Was it User:Leyo maybe? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Maybe it was me, but it must have been several years ago. If possible the script should be looking for that parameter somewhere in the page. --Leyo 21:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

About your decision to delete some pictures.

Sorry, but I do not really understand your decision. Deleted pictures (Banatski Brestovac, Banatski Novo Selo!!!, all pictures are deleted!! look at the site, please).--AustrianFreedom (talk) 07:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

There are no legal problems with the uploaded pictures, If I call the authors so I did. Sorry, but that is a matter of fact.--AustrianFreedom (talk) 08:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I did it again.--AustrianFreedom (talk) 08:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

@AustrianFreedom: if you talked to the copyright owners, we will need proof of this. We cannot go based off your word or anyone else's, since people make mistakes, especially newcomers who don't understand our strict copyright policies. Please see Commons:Email templates for instructions. The page is multilingual. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Gracias

Don't worry, everybody makes mistakes. OK I'll put the template the next time. Thank you very much. --Aidalova (talk) 07:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

On purpose, the file Logo Federación Ambientalista Internacional.jpg it was delate too. The author send the authoritation. Can you check it out, please? Thanks.--Aidalova (talk) 08:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@Aidalova:  Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Nudge

Just for info and because of your block on a similar named user. I'm actually fairly sure it is someone from way back but the name eludes me for now. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Nutmeg 2.jpg

File:Nutmeg 2.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

-- とある白い猫 ^ちぃ？ 18:00, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Please, pay an eye

See contributions by this user. Thanks in advance.--Fixertool (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fixertool: do you have reason to think this is a sock, or just yet another serial Latin American soccer copyright violator? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe this is just another serial copyright violator. Thanks for your help.--Fixertool (talk) 08:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi. More to check. Thanks.--Fixertool (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Please restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg

I do not recall having received a notice from your OgreBot about questions about the copyright on File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg. Yesterday while providing documentation of other photos I uploaded, I found that this photo had been challenged then deleted, because I did not reply to the challenge in time. Yesterday at 9:37 AM Central time, I forwarded to "permissions-commons@wikimedia.org" an email subj: restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg, in which Hadley Wickham said (deep in the text) "you can license as CC-SA."

How long should I wait to see if someone will respond to that email and either restore or tell me why not? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 03:42, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: I've responded to the email you sent yesterday. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 10:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Where have you responded? I haven't seen it -- either for Wickham or for Kelton. On Dec. 30, you should have received an email from me documenting that I had permission from Wickham to release that photo of him under CC-SA and others from me and from Kelton documentation permission for the four of Kelton. File:Kelton Headshot2.jpg still claims it "is missing evidence of permission", and the photo of Wickham still seems not to have been restored. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: I responded on January 1 at 10:32 AM UTC. I actually quoted a previous email we sent back in March. Is it possible your spam filter is picking it up? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:53, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I've received emails 2016-12-30 addressed to me as spencer.graves@prodsyse.com from Wikimedia Commons <wiki@wikimedia.org>, subj: ‪Secondarywaltz‬ left you a message on Wikimedia Commons but none from you. Per that email, I sent emails to OTRS (permissions-commons@wikimedia.org) containing verbiage from my sources claiming they own those photos and are granting permission to release them under cc-by-sa for the four Kelton photos I recently added and cc-sa for Wickham.

I just checked my spam filter and did not find anything that looked like it might have come from you.

What should I look for? How do you want me to respond?

I just now documented this on User talk:DavidMCEddy. What more should I do? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: OK, it looks like there are two tickets out there. I responded to one (ticket: 2016123010010381), you are responding to the other (ticket: 2016123010010166). Secondarily, there are two email addresses involved which you appear to be using, and the one I responded to is not the one you gave above (for privacy reasons, I cannot specify the actual email address on here; is it possible that you have two email addresses, or you have one email address that links to another?).

Yes, I incorrectly used another email address when I should have used spencer.graves@prodsyse.com with Wikipedia. I use two different email addresses for ostensibly different purposes, and I sometimes use the wrong one, as I did in this case. In responding to an email challenging photos I got from Stephanie Kelton, I noticed that the photo I got from Hadley Wickham had been deleted. Your action led to the deletion of the Wickham photo.

How can I find an administrator or OTRS team member who deleted these photos? User:Secondarywaltz said I needed to contact an "administrator or OSTR team member who deleted" the photos. I looked but could not find how to do that. Assistance with that would be appreciated. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I am going to ask another volunteer to look at this since I don't have the time right now. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Could you please also ask your other volunteer to review the four Kelton photos that have been deleted as well as the Wickham photo? User: Secondarywaltz said I should ask you for a review of all five photos. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: I have restored two of the Kelton photos. We are experiencing technical difficulties so I can't respond by email right now. I cannot stress enough that all this is very much out of the ordinary; our software is usually quite reliable. Sorry about that. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

As for the Hadley Wickam photo, did my response sufficiently explain what we should do from here? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:34, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Not at all, because I have not seen your response. I have no idea where you posted it or how I should have received it.

On 2016-12-30 9:37 AM Central Time [15:37 GMT, if I'm not mistaken], I sent an email, subject: "restore File:Hadley-wickham2016-02-04.jpg", forwarding an email that I had received from Dr. Wickham, 2/4/2016 2:38 PM, in which he said, "Photo attached - you can license as CC-SA." Have you seen this documentation? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: Yes, and I responded to the effectivedefense.org email address as stated above. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Could you please post here what you claim to have sent me recently?

I've searched my all my archives back to Dec. 2014 plus my recent spam for "wikim" and "magog". That identified the 2016-02-06 email you sent: I apologize: I filed it without reading it and understanding its importance. I found other emails from "wikim", including five from user:Secondarywaltz regarding the Kelton photos, but only the one stamped 2016-02-06 discussing that Wickham photo. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

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@DavidMCEddy: first, I've undeleted File:Kelton classroom photo.png. Second, the gist of my Hadley Wickam email is that we require a license from the copyright holder, who should email us directly. The email template is here: Commons:Email templates. The email for photo submissions is photosubmission@wikimedia.org. Please request that the text [Ticket#2016020710001096] be included in the subject line of the message. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:47, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just sent such a request to Wickham. (It also just occurred to me to look in junk folders I had not previously checked, and I found emails on this stamped 2016-03-30 and 2017-01-01.) DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Jean-Beguin-1615.jpg

Excuse me, and thanks for helpingClaudio Pistilli (talk) 10:12, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

@Claudio Pistilli: no problem. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi.

Considering we are like oil and water and there is little trust between us, you did not think it would be prudent to ask someone else to deal with the file in question? I sought an IB against you, that shows how little I trust you, and I've done my part in avoiding you as well. I would appreciate if you would reciprocate, after this file's DR has bee resolved. Fry1989 ^eh? 17:55, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fry1989: I'm sorry if you interpreted my move to be antagonistic. I absolutely did not intend it that way. I just want to hash out the discussion of the copyright status for that image, and a DR seems like a good place for it. On English Wikipedia, we renamed Files for Deletion to Files for Discussion for precisely this reason. I plan to withdraw the DR once we are able to establish that the image is no longer under copyright.

I do not stalk you, nor will I ever stalk your contributions. However, if I come across a file whose copyright is problematic, I think it is not wise for me to just ignore it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hello. Would you be willing to delete this revision? I meant to have it extracted to a completely different file, but forgot to hit the correct button. I've corrected it now. Thanks, Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 19:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan:  Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Appreciate it! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 20:17, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Etsi dei Filius.pdf

Il file è di dominio pubblico in quanto pubblicato su diversi testi divulgativi a tema "Oblati di Maria Vergine" (ho infatti copiato integralmente il testo dal Libro: Padre Timothy Gallagher OMV, Un' esperienza nello spirito, Pio Bruno Lanteri, il suo carisma nelle sue parole, Cuneo, Edizione a cura della provincia italiana degli Oblati di Maria Vergine, 1989) inoltre la breve etsi dei filius" (ovvero la lettera) è consultabile sul sito: asv segreteria dei brevi 1826 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindspower (talk • contribs) 09:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@Blackcat: could you please help out here? Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Mindspower, ok, non stiamo a sindacare il copyright, ma Magog vorrebbe capire qual è la pertinenza di tale documento. A seguire, a titolo personale e come amministratore posso chiederti, quando carichi un qualsiasi file, di essere il più specifico possibile circa descrizione, generalità, anno di pubblicazione, e status legale dello stesso? I tuoi caricamenti sono carenti sotto questi profili. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 09:14, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

1. Mi era sfuggita la documentazione, chiedo scusa e provvedo a rispondere; 2. La pertinenza del documento è di valenza storica perchè il contenuto è l'autorizzazione da parte della Santa Sede, nella persona del papa che decreta l'avvenuto passaggio della congregazione da "diritto diocesano" a "diritto pontificio" cosa che, nella vita di tutte le congregazioni non è un semplice dettaglio sul piano storico, giuridico e della semplice vita dei congregati. 3. per quanto riguarda poi il caricamento dei file ammetto di non essere stato preciso nei dettagli anche se un "template" o un form di caricamento dove poter aggiungere i copy, l'argomento date di pubblicazione ecc sarebbe molto più immediato per me. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mindspower (talk • contribs) 08:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

P.s. Chiedo scusa del ritardo ma mi era sfuggita la comunicazione --Mindspower (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@Blackcat: can you verify any of this? If the document is from the Holy See, if the license is correct, etc. Sorry to outsource to you but I cannot read or write Italian. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:41, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll have a look later Magog. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 19:02, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Blocking of sock-puppets

Hello Magog the Ogre and Happy New Year, 1 hour ago I decided to check where some of my ex-contra-users gone and I've found out this, freankly speaking I was thinking that all of them had same goal and purpose. "User:Leftcry" (WhyHellWhy) was very active in making and changing of maps according to his biased POV and in his new account with name "User:Turnless" he was lying in face that he didn't know how to use special software for changing maps and etc. You can see here that I really suspected him in sock-puppetry and you see how he denied (of course). Then happened another incident with User:Gyumrilak and you may remember that my suspects arose again. Now you see (and other users proved) that all of them were sock-puppets of one user with name WhyHellWhy, here in commons there is even special category for his sock-puppets. So in the end I am going to ask if you could block those sock-puppets User:Turnless and User:Gyumrilak here as well?--g. balaxaZe★ 04:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Giorgi Balakhadze: I'll research this. Give me a day or so. For quicker resolution in the future, you can take your request to COM:RFCU. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:14, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

@Giorgi Balakhadze: they are confirmed to be the same user. WhyHellWhy is stale but the data is consistent, albeit I have very little on that sock. I see no reason not to trust the WP SPI. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks--g. balaxaZe★ 18:41, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

SPA

It seems to be a SPU. By the way, what is this? I mean, the image. Thanks in advance.--Fixertool (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fixertool: what is a SPU? And are you actually unfamiliar with the giving the middle finger? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

SPA or SPU. The user was uploading and reuploading the same kind of pictures, but no problem if you consider that file is Ok. I'm just asking for a revision, and that's all.

And, of course, I'm not unfamiliar with the middle finger. But I didn't notice it was his own action, and there's no problem with that. I though it was a kind of vandalism by other account. Clearly I was utterly wrong. And I'm sorry. I didn't explain myself enough and I made an obvious mistake too, in identifying the action. Thanks and I apologize for the time you lost with this.--Fixertool (talk) 18:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@Fixertool: I had never heard the term as SPU. You don't have to apologize it was just a misunderstanding. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Bot actions

Hi Magog,

Could you please explain this edit? As far as I can see, user:snaevar has no relationships with File:Johanna sigurdardottir official portrait.jpg. Sealle (talk) 04:21, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sealle: looks like a bug. Thanks for the note. I'll take a look. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:25, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Dávid Lajos1.jpg

Why did you delete the license? – EniPort (talk) 12:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Csekey István 1889-1963.jpg

Why did you delete the license? – EniPort (talk) 13:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

@EniPort: the bot noticed the license was already present elsewhere on the page. However, it looks like it tripped up on in invalid parameter to the {{PermissionOTRS}} template. That template does not take a license parameter so you should leave it out in the future. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 17:49, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

This wasn't a problem before, please adjust the settings of the bot to ignore the Permission row. It's often useful to see what the owner of the rights actually gave permission to as it is sometimes different to what the uploaders indicate (and they cannot see the permission, it's only visible to us). – EniPort (talk) 19:02, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

@EniPort: the license wasn't even showing. It was dead code because it was inside a bad template parameter. I think you mistyped the row. That template has never accepted it as an argument, so think was always an issue. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:06, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Epinards_à_la_marocaine.jpg

Hello ! I removed the watermark (+ cropping, levels). Would You check it, please ? Thanks. --Ptyx (talk) 07:10, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

@Ptyx: Hello. I'm not an expert more than anyone else, but it does look better to me. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:58, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

copyright tag

Problem solved, thanks for your notice,, but I must admit That is strange, usually the files can not be loaded without License of Copyright, and the first time That succedde me,, but now I Submitted the License, and now and all a place :) thanks for Having noticed this particular :);) good work--Глинистый сланец (talk) 12:03, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

@Глинистый сланец: I think this page might help: Commons:Лицензирование. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Alex Stenzel jpgs.

Regarding the Alex Stenzel files both files are licensed under flickr. Didn't you notice that? --Vonlandsberg (talk) 03:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Vonlandsberg: welcome to Commons. Our policy is that an uploader should attach a copyright tag to each image. You can see instructions at COM:Licensing.

Also, if an image comes from Flickr, you should attach {{Flickrreview}} to the page so that a bot can confirm the license.

I have fixed the files this time as an example.[1][2] Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:18, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Great thank you! I wasn't aware of it. I appreciate the help!--Vonlandsberg (talk) 03:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

RE: File:Bakyt Beshimov.jpg

Gracias por el dato, ya hace un tiempo que estoy aquí, pero soy algo nuevo en el tema de las imágenes. Lo tendré en cuenta. Por cierto, tengo una imagen y trato de averiguar si tiene o no derechos de autor. No sé como podría averiguarlo porque ya lo intenté de diversas maneras y no sé como. Gracias.--FelipeRev (talk) 04:09, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@FelipeRev: ¿A cuál imagen te referies? Salvo que se indique lo contrario, casi todo lo que encuentres está protegido. Ésta es una guía que cubre varias posibilidades aquí: Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:PD-CSPAN

Template:PD-CSPAN has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Discasto _talk 23:00, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Speedy closed as kept because Discasto withdrew his request. Natuur12 (talk) 00:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

File:AuchenCastleHotel.jpg

Hello, Magog the Ogre, yesterday I transferred this file from en-WIKIPEDIA to WIKIPEDIA-Commons, but this time it did not work using the "CommonsHelper" I usually use for this purpose now. It was not that this program gave any fault message (like: "incorrect author information", "insufficient licence" etc.), but it simply got stuck, even as I tried several times. So, for this time only, I used the simple transfer form again. As far as I can see, all the information of the photo file (like author, source, licence) are correct and should not cause any problems in the transfer process. Could you so please check for me whether you find any reason for what this photo should not be in WIKIPEDIA-Commons or whether maybe just the program "CommonsHelper" was faulty for some time? Many thanks in advance. Best regards --MartinHansV (talk) 09:13, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

@MartinHansV: Yes, CommonsHelper is buggy, but I don't maintain it. Some day I hope to have a less buggy replacement for CommonsHelper. However, in the meantime, you can usually get around this problem by clearing your wmflabs cookies and trying again. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:49, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks for your answer. Best regards. --MartinHansV (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

María Clara Rossi

Agradezco que se me tenga en cuenta y en cuanto a los derechos de autor, la artista María Clara Rossi Malán (mi madre) fue quien realizó el texto y lo tiene publicado en Linkedin, me autoriza y tiene interés en poder estar en Wikipedia. Hay dos fotos, en una aparece ella con sus obras y en la otra aparece con sus hijas, yo estoy a la izquierda y mi hermana Marisa a la derecha. Agradezco si me pudiesen confirmar si la publicación queda o no en la página de Wikipedia. Si es necesario el contenido se puede hacer más corto. Saludos cordiales,

Laura Gomensoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laura Gomensoro (talk • contribs) 23:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Laura Gomensoro: la petición de borrado no tiene que ver con derechos de autor. Los documentos de texto son fuera del alcance de Commons, lo que sirve para proveer las imágenes, videos, y audio por los otros proyectos. ¿Puede usted leer este ensayo: Commons:Alcance del proyecto#Formatos PDF y DjVu?

@Érico: ¿usted puede ayudarnos sobre el sujeto de crear un artículo en Wikipedia en español (relevancia, etc.)? Puedo apuntar a es:Ayuda:Tu primer artículo, pero no sé mucho de las reglas de esa Wiki. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:36, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Magog the Ogre, hello. Of course I can.

@Laura Gomensoro: Hola. La Wikipedia en español tiene criterios de notoriedad. Ellos fueron creados para evitar que artículos de personas con poca relevancia sean creadas. Puede ver los criterios generales de notoriedad aquí, y los criterios específicos para personas aquí. Por lo que vi en una rápida búsqueda en Google, hay pocos resultados sobre su madre. Además, no he encontrado ninguna fuente más confiable que puede dar fe de su relevancia. Dicho esto, creo que ella no es relevante para tener artículo propio. Saludos. Érico (talk) 01:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Missing copyright tags

Thanks for reminding me, fixed. tsca (talk) 11:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Blennophis_striatus.jpg

Hi Magog the Ogre (nice name by the way) thanks for your message -- I think I have fixed the problem so please do feel free to check at your leisure. if it's still not fixed, I'll try again best wishes Seascapeza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seascapeza (talk • contribs) 04:54, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

@Seascapeza: thank you. I actually cringe a bit and wish I'd chosen a better name. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:11, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

how to keep the image

Sorry I am the new wikipedians and i dont know how to prove the jpg is belong to our company and i have the document from govenment, how should i submit those information?

Thank you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henryqq09 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@Henryqq09: we have instructions are here: Commons:Email templates (English) or here: Commons:電子郵件模板 (Chinese). We have a backlog, so let me know once you've sent an email. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Improvement for OgreBot 2's "clean up of new upload"

Hi Magog, seems that Commonshelper which transfers files from Wiki to Commons does not properly use the {{BotMoveToCommons}} template. I already created a ticket for Magnus.[3] Since i do not expect this to be fixed the next weeks I wonder if your OgreBot 2 clean up procedure of new uploads could be extended by one single improvement (example):

original: {{BotMoveToCommons|de.wikipedia|2016|December|22}}
correct: {{BotMoveToCommons|de.wikipedia|year=2016|month=December|day=22}}

Example files can be found here in the maintainance category Files moved from de.wikipedia to Commons requiring review - No timestamp given. What do you think? --Arnd (talk) 11:17, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Certainly, it is not restricted to de.wikipedia (see e.g. Category:Files moved from en.wikipedia to Commons requiring review - No timestamp given). --Leyo 11:48, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Aschroet, Leyo: I modified the template instead. This was much easier. I purged the cache on a bunch of the files but I can't hope to hit all of them. After some hours, I expect Mediawiki will update the categories. Beware that a few files may be in categories which were deleted. All of the files appear to be from August 2016 or later. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:43, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Magog the Ogre, does this template still work with named parameters as it is described on the template page? If so, i am fine with it. Leyo, what do you think? --Arnd (talk) 08:40, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Special:Diff/233540750 looks good. --Leyo 20:00, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Movimiento Juvenil ANCLA

Files uploaded by BexzyGallego (talk · contribs)

Mire el alcance del proyecto.

• File:Temario Pre-ancla.pdf
• File:Temario Travesía Roja.pdf
• File:Temario Travesía Azul.pdf
• File:Temario de Travesía Amarilla.pdf
• File:Carta de navegación.pdf
• File:Carta 5 - La apropiación.pdf
• File:Carta 4 - Madurez humana.pdf
• File:Carta 6 - Enfrentamiento y compromiso.pdf
• File:Carta 1- Hazte todo un cristiano.pdf
• File:Carta 3 - Los valores.pdf
• File:Carta 2 - Mi carabela.pdf
• File:Convivencia de padres.jpg
• File:Campamento mision. San casimiro.jpg
• File:Convivencia de embarque.jpg

Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:32, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Solicito la revisión de los documentos eliminados. Se trata de un Movimiento sin ánimos de lucro, sin recursos suficientes para publicaciones oficiales. Estos documentos estan libres de derechos de autor, precisamente porque estan hecho por colaboradores desinteresados que no figuran como autores. Los documentos han sido hechos para el uso por parte de jóvenes.

He intentado comprender si es que los documentos pdf debo subirlos en otro lugar, pero estos, contienen imágenes referenciales del texto, asi que cabrian en wikimedia commons.

No se si el idioma sea un impedimento en la comprensión. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BexzyGallego (talk • contribs) 15:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

@BexzyGallego: El idioma no es un impedimento. Bien, ya no hemos eliminado los documentos. Pero el alcance del proyecto es que proveamos los archivos para los otros proyectos de Wikimedia. No es un archivo por un movimiento. ¿Puede usted ver Commons:Lo que Commons no es#Commons no es tu alojamiento web gratuito personal? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:59, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

No he entendido muy bien. Pero en cualquier caso, ¿habría alguna manera de subir los documentos que han sido borrado?, ya sea creas otra pagina, subirlos por otro espacio.

Agradeceria la ayuda ya que es con el fin de aportar más información correspondiente al artículo publicado. BexzyGallego (talk) 09:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Entiendo tu desconcierto, ya que hay dos problemas distintos:

• Hubo dos imágenes que borramos porque no tenían la prueba de derechos. He dejado instrucciones en tu página de usuario que explican el proceso de enviarnos un email que pruebe tu identidad. Las he restaurado temporariamente; por favor, infórmame cuando nos hayas enviado el email.
• Hay varios archivos PDF que están fuera del alcance del proyecto. Aunque dejamos las subidas PDF, casi nunca están en el alcance del proyecto. Puedes leer la política aquí: Commons:Alcance del proyecto.
• Sobre el artículo en Wikipedia español, no puedo ayudarte con eso, ya que no uso ese proyecto. Puedes pedir ayuda con eso aquí: es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual.

Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:41, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

EleKeats.jpg copyright

Hi Magog! I'm sorry, I'm quite new in adding files so I may have done it wrong. I owe the rights for EleKeats.jpg You suggested me to add the tag {{self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all}}... Where precisely should I add the tag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capricorn83 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@Capricorn83: on the file description page. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:56, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@Magog the Ogre:Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capricorn83 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Copyright status

Hi (Magog the Ogre) Consider the picture again I think I solved the problem

File:مخطط قصر العظم.jpg

-Mohammad Aljandali (talk) 11:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Old file version

I think in this case importing old version of file from en.wikipedia is absolutely un-necessary. Just pollutes the file history. --XXN, 11:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

OK. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Walmart footprint.png requires updating

Hi Magog the Ogre,
Thank you for your contributions to Commons. I noticed File:Walmart footprint.png is out of date. Could you update it? Thanks again. Daylen (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Code issues in User:Magog the Ogre/ExpandedWatchlist.js

Hi Magog the Ogre, I am a bored bot (this is kind of a computer program) that is watching the recent changes and tapping buttons like I did now.

Curious about the reason? Possibly not but I will tell you anyway:

1. You edited User:Magog the Ogre/ExpandedWatchlist.js. Glad to see you coding in javascript! Have you ever considered becoming a MediaWiki hacker?
2. Though, that change appears to introduce 10 new jshint issues — the page's status is now having ERRORS. Note that invalid or ambiguous code often has unwanted side effects like breaking other tools for you. If you cannot find out how to fix it, I suggest blanking the page for now.
3. To help you understanding where the issues are, I have aggregated a report here and now. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask users experienced in javascript writing for help. But do not ask the bot's operators (chronically overwrought) unless you suspect an error of mine. If you prefer not getting spammed by me, you can opt-out reports by adding {{ValidationOptOut|type=all}} to your user page or cmb-opt-out anywhere on your your global user page on Meta. Good luck at Wikimedia Commons and happy hacking!

1. ISSUE: line 145 character 21: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 144 and instead saw '['. - Evidence: [factory.get(Messages).getGlobal("gotIt")]: function () {
2. ISSUE: line 145 character 22: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 141 and instead saw 'factory'. - Evidence: [factory.get(Messages).getGlobal("gotIt")]: function () {
3. ISSUE: line 145 character 62: Expected ')' and instead saw ']'. - Evidence: [factory.get(Messages).getGlobal("gotIt")]: function () {
4. ISSUE: line 145 character 63: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: [factory.get(Messages).getGlobal("gotIt")]: function () {
5. ISSUE: line 145 character 63: Expected '}' to match '{' from line 138 and instead saw ':'. - Evidence: [factory.get(Messages).getGlobal("gotIt")]: function () {
6. ISSUE: line 148 character 18: Expected an identifier and instead saw ','. - Evidence: },
7. ISSUE: line 148 character 19: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: },
8. ISSUE: line 149 character 24: Label 'close' on ( statement. - Evidence: close: () => {
9. ISSUE: line 151 character 18: Missing semicolon. - Evidence: }
10. ISSUE: line 153 character 9: Expected '(end)' and instead saw '}'. - Evidence: }

Your CommonsMaintenanceBot (talk) at 02:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC).

@Rillke: why is the bot messaging me? I clearly added jshint:ignore at the start and end so that the bot wouldn't get tripped up by the ES6 features (yes, I know Wikimedia doesn't support them; it's complicated, read the script if you want). Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Magog

How long we don't talk each other! I need you for a help. Two days ago, an user flagged a photo I uploaded some months ago. So, The picture is an arcade with two screens, and the screens has visible copyrighted material. I want to edit the pic on Photoshop to censor the screens, but I want to know if I could solve the problem with that and keep the picture for an article. Here's the flagged photo.

Also I want to talk about another pictures has been deleted recently, but I will do when the main problem is fixed. My regards--VictorPines (talk) 06:00, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines: I love your enthusiasm, and I hate that I never have anything but bad news for you! My response: you probably need to blur the cardboard artwork over the screens as well. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 05:34, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok, Magog, I will do :)--VictorPines (talk) 07:01, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Your message on my talkpage

I've noticed u added that the file I've uploaded doesn't contain proper information just to inform u that I have transferred the file frm en wikiversity the file has a lot of usage there and globally aftr my upload i have no idea wht they did there but I can assure u that it had a cc license which is applicable on Commons if u can find out about the image tag which was before it would be helpful do assist me in the same --Tiven2240 (talk) 06:05, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Tiven2240: which license did it have on Wiktionary? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:40, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The same that I added on the image--Tiven2240 (talk) 01:59, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@Tiven2240: it's fine now then. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:07, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

suppressed image

hello, Magog the Ogre you suppressed File:Statue château Perrier 00727.JPG can you explain why you did it ? Have you some information abou who make Le Veneur"? If it's Henri Gallice he died 1930 . For French gouv ː http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/merimee_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIELD_1=REF&VALUE_1=PA51000019 . I it's Pierre le Nordez, he died in 1892. Can you replace the picture ?

Sincerely

Bonjour mon bien chèr Magog the Ogre, vou avez supprimé la photo présentée. Je ne vois pas vraiement porquoi, détenez vous des informations sur le sculpteur autre que celle du ministère français de la culture ? La date de décès de Henri Gallice est 1930 . Si c'est Pierre Le Nordez, né au Vast le 29 novembre 1814, décédé à Saint-Maur en 1892. bien cordialement Garitan (talk) 10:35, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Garitan: you never provided a license for your photograph. We need a free license from you, as indicated in the message on your talk page. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:39, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Cropped image

Remember the picture I showed you yesterday? I cropped the cardboard you mentioned before. Is that enough?--VictorPines (talk) 17:40, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Probably, but it's close. Any reason you couldn't crop out the entire cardboard? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:38, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, but when it's deleted, can I Upload again the file, but the with cardboard completely covered?--VictorPines (talk) 04:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines: you can do that now, before it's deleted, and we'll just remove the old versions later. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Ok, Magog, I modified the image. You can check it now.--VictorPines (talk) 04:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines: Yes, I'll leave a note. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:23, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

File:CELSO ZUBIREEntrevista.webm

What exactly is missing? The video itself declares that it is in CC-by-SA 4.0 and the author is Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey (I am the coordinaor of this WMF-recognized user group). In the description, it says the declaration is in the credits.Thelmadatter (talk) 09:09, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@Thelmadatter: it didn't have a copyright tag, which is required for all files. Anyway I recognized the issue and fixed it soon after I marked it.[4] Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:11, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you... I appreciate it.Thelmadatter (talk) 03:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Magog.

Today I have two little problems:

• Remember that time I was looking for your help to keep this image? Saddly, it was deleted days ago despiting your advice on the nomination discuss. Do you think if I can upload again the image, but using the edited picture? It won't be deleted again?
• Can I upload this image con Commons? It won't get any strike?
• Do you know where are the general templates to mark an image as not allowed on speed deletion? I mean, the general page of templates for any kind of maintenance of Commons for images?

My regards.--VictorPines (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines:

• Apparently they decided the image was pointless as blurred. Do you have somewhere you plan to use it?
• No, that image is a derivative.
• No, we have no such template.

Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:15, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Magog, about the deleted image, it was planned to show the screen positions; the upper screen displays movies and charts, while the lower one is a multi-touch panel, this last is manipulated by the player. I'm not only uploading pictures to keep images, they will have an use on articles.

To finish, can you give me the tamplate for speed deletion? sometimes I see new poor articles with images uploaded on Commons brought with copyright.--VictorPines (talk) 00:36, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: would you consider restoring this image?

@VictorPines: you want {{Copyvio}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

For the record, we are talking about Commons:Deletion requests/File:BeatStream screen display.jpg. I should start by saying that the fact that you suggested keeping the latest version at the DR made me think for a few minutes. I have more respect for your opinion than that of most of our colleagues and I don't like to cross it.

On this kind of problem, I generally feel that we are caught between a rock and a hard place. If the image is too close to the original, then it is a dertivative work. On the other hand if it is blurred enough so that it is no longer a derivative work, then it is just a meaningless blur and therefore out of scope. I think that is the case here, and Josve5a and Mattbuck agreed with me.

With that said, scope is not as hard a line as copyvio, so if you think the last version ought to be restored, please go ahead and do it with my blessing. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:56, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

In that case, Can I upload it again?, (Jameslwoodward)?--VictorPines (talk) 22:29, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines: if that's how you'd prefer to do it rather than a restoration, go for it. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:44, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

A restoration would be great! How can I restore the picture? This will be my last question until further notice.--VictorPines (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines:  Done Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:44, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

cleanup

Hi Magog the Ogre, there are a lot of non-standard dates that can be found with this search: [5]. Is your bot able to clean up at least some of them? Thank you in advance, --Arnd (talk) 16:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Aschroet: that sounds pretty hard actually. I hope to open source my tools here at some point, and maybe you could set up a workspace to run them and make the changes on your own if you know how to code. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, is it really? I thought it can be easily done by removing the "created" and then use the normal date cleanup as it is already implemented in your bot. But actually i could do this on my own, right? Ok, i will try to do so. --Arnd (talk) 06:04, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Aschroet: It is now open sourced at https://bitbucket.org/MagogTheOgre/ogrebot. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:17, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Some day soon I will also provide a how-to for running locally if there is demand. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:34, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Самсон Агабекович Дагбашян.jpg

Hi Magog the Ogre.

About the file Самсон Агабекович Дагбашян.jpg I may say, that the link to the confirming page with information about the license is indicated ([6] You need to look at the bottom of the page, where is it written "All site content, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons License").

--Arsurhar (talk) 09:32, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

@Arsurhar: actually, it links to cc-by-nc-3.0, which is incompatible with Commons licensing. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 16:59, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Copyright

Sorry for may Copyright vaolent.but anather website's photo are upload in wikimedia commans how? Template:শুভেন্দু খাঁ 05:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by খাঁ শুভেন্দু (talk • contribs) 05:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@খাঁ শুভেন্দু: for the most part, we cannot upload these. We have an essay explanation here: COM:NETCOPYVIO. In rare cases, you can ask the uploader for an exception if you are willing to go through the process outlined here: Commons:Email templates. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:17, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello there

Hey magog, about the image you restore time ago, an user flagged it. I talked with him but he decided to keep the image flagged, see here the talk page.--VictorPines (talk) 00:39, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@VictorPines: there are now three administrators who have said they think the image isn't very useful. I suggest putting it in use ASAP if you plan to do so. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Upload wizard Q

I... yesterday I uploaded some 3D models done by students of Wiki Learning Tec de Monterrey (a user group which I coordinate) using the upload wizard. Ive noticed that sometimes when I use the wizard to upload these things (which are not my work but are marked as CC-by-SA 4.0) there have been problems with being corrected tagged on the resulting page. Is this file File:Trompo3DWikiLearning.webm OK? If not, what am I not doing when I go through the wizard's steps?--Thelmadatter (talk) 14:35, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@Thelmadatter: yes it looks good. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

سلام

شي أغاني أخوو Hafid amazigh (talk) 15:42, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Film uploads

This user uploaded a lot of images related to a film Daddy's Daughter as own work and CC 4.0 licensing. What I'm finding about the film is clips here, apparently uploaded at YouTube by the film's creators/producers. The uploads are copies taken from them. I think there's a copyright on the film and they shouldn't be here. Thanks, We hope (talk) 16:00, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

@We hope: I marked them as needing permission through OTRS. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! :) We hope (talk) 19:05, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for all of your help on Commons! Royalbroil 03:14, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

application mémoire licence.pdf

je suit crée application mémoire licence avec un binome dans university algérienne so please no deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linador (talk • contribs) 09:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

It was deleted by User:Yann, not I. Ping for an explanation. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:18, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

@Linador: Bonjour,

Je ne vois pas d'indication d'une licence libre dans le document. Pourriez-vous confirmer cela via COM:OTRS/fr. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 10:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

'Fucking' bot

Just for your information, some find your bot 'fucking'. Hopefully this user will not rollback this renomination like he did after several weird keep-closures in the past. Jcb (talk) 21:39, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

@Jcb: I did a partial revert along with a snarky note. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)