User talk:JarektBot/2011

Animals being tagged as People by name

Animals with birth or death dates are being put in Category:People by name by JarektBot. See, for example, this edit. Perhaps items in Category:Animals and its subcategories should be skipped. If that category is too large to search, maybe just exclude Category:Famous animals and Category:Pets and subcategories instead. There does not seem to be a Category:Animals by name, except for Category:Famous horses by name. There is a very small chance that famous plants (old trees, etc.) might be tagged with death dates also. --Closeapple (talk) 05:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

It seems to happen as some add animals into categories for people, e.g. at Category:Eight Bells. It should be fixed by removing these from all people categories. --  Docu  at 07:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, there are a lot of categories with deathdates which have nothing to do with people, but I did not check for animals. I will do a separate sweep trying to identify animals in "People by name". Thanks for letting me know. --Jarekt (talk) 12:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Creator substitutions

Hello, there is a problem when there are two authors, your bot is omitting one (example). Even when there is one author, your bot is leaving some mess after the Creator template (example). --Gumruch (talk) 07:31, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

The same problem occured here. --René Mettke (talk) 10:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Two author problem that is my mistake in the spreadsheet but single creator issue is due bad substitution. I will try to find and fix other places with those problems. --JarektBot (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I am running the bot again to fix all authors with "|" in the line. --JarektBot (talk) 04:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for solving. --Gumruch (talk) 08:11, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Please don't create creator templates with the name of redirected categories. To make things worse, your creator templates cannot be moved by bots. --Foroa (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

There are still some I will have to either revert or do by hand and than I will look for double authors I mishandled. --Jarekt (talk) 13:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, same issues again—[1][2] The second one even broke the description table, as it leaved }} (closing breakets). --Gumruch (talk) 11:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Fixing again. I will stop adding creator templates untill I wind a better way. --JarektBot (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Again, [3] deleted the name of the photographer.--Prosfilaes (talk) 17:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Correcting creators is a manual process. I download content of the author's field from files in Category:Creator template home categories without creator template. Than I check in Excel if it matches any creator's names and if it does I mark which one. Latter I use AWB to upload corrections to each file. It seems like in some cases I edited files which were better left untouched. I went back and checked diff's of about 50-100 files from that day and great majority is exactly as intended, but I found few more where I replaced more complete information about authorship with single creator template. --Jarekt (talk) 03:22, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Redirects

Please don't insert creator templates for (long standing) redirected categories. To make things worse, the category move bots cannot move the creator templates. --Foroa (talk) 09:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

My bot adding creator templates to categories was skipping categories with "Category redirect" string. Can you give me examples of incorrect insertions? --Jarekt (talk) 13:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

User:RussBot/category redirect log where the move failed (1 found, 0 moved). --Foroa (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I went through all "1 found, 0 moved" in the report and none was touched by my bot. I will go through categories I added creator to yesterday and check for redirects. --Jarekt (talk) 18:42, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Error in nationality codes

I was looking at some pictures and creator details recently, and noticed a mistake which was introduced by this bot here. That appears to be the incorrect nationality code, as "BR" seems to produce 'Brazilian', when in fact that photographer was English. Do you know what went wrong here? Can you fix it? And can you identify if your bot did this more than once? Thanks. Carcharoth (Commons) (talk) 02:05, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

That was Semiautomatic edit using AWB. I deleted old text and typed in the new one, and apparently got it wrong. --JarektBot (talk) 03:58, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

It is still wrong - was there a problem when you tried to correct it? I would have corrected it myself, but I don't know what the code should be for British? I'm also not sure precisely what you mean by 'Semiautomatic edit using AWB', but what I really want to be sure of is that there are no other British photographers out there that are marked as Brazilian photographers. Was this part of a big run you did where you might have made the same mistake several times? I'm thinking that it might be best either to check the bot's contributions around the same date, or to try and pull up a list of 'Creator' pages marked as Brazilian photographers and see if they should in fact be British. Is there a way to do this? Carcharoth (Commons) (talk) 23:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Bot institute and category creations

Dear Jarekt, recently, your bot created hundreds of redundant institutions (such as Institution:Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya, Barcelona - see here) with non existing categories and uploaded files in incorrectly named categories such as Category:Painters from Holland. I moved and redirected tens of them. I am just wondering if there is no way to be more selective when those institutions and categories already exist ? --Foroa (talk) 06:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I am uploading many thousands of WGA images and I am spending a LOT of time matching commons creators, institutions and categories to the image metadata, before the image uploads. It is probably 95% of the effort. A lot of matching has to be done by searching Commons, or searching major Wikipedias and look for links to Commons. Although I have some algorithms to partially automate the process, like finding potential creator matches through alternative names or dates of birth/death, most of it is still done by hand and sometimes mistakes like Category:Painters from Holland happen. As for Institutions - we do not have many templates yet and category names are very hard to predict. I matched over 100 of most frequently used by hand and created stub templates (and added non-existing categories) to the rest. I realize that some of those institutions already have categories, and once I am done with the uploads I am planning on working on clearing some of those up. --Jarekt (talk) 14:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I understand. Mu question is basically if your uploading is completed, so that redundant institutes and categories can be deleted, or will your upload bot assign/create them again. --Foroa (talk) 15:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I am done with the uploads of new files. However I am working now on a way to synch file descriptions of 6k WGA files uploaded to Commons before the batch upload. This might take a while, since I am having some issues getting it to work. I have some idea as how to get it to work, but lets discuss it at Template_talk:Institution#Category:Institution_template_stubs, where we are already discussing this topic.--JarektBot (talk) 15:48, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

French actor?

At some point, JarektBot decided that I was a French actor. While I do have an IMDb profile, that's for a talk show appearance. That, plus I'm only about a third French, and that lineage is centuries removed. How did it determine this? -- Nick Moreau (talk) 15:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

It just copied it from Category:Nicholas Moreau, where it was added 2 years ago. --JarektBot (talk) 16:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Added a second en interwiki link

The en interwiki link was already added. [4] So it was unneccessary to add a second one. --Pilettes (talk) 08:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

suggestion

Hi! What about using {{en|{{mainw|{{PAGENAME}}}}}} instead of [[en:PAGENAME]]? --Gampe (talk) 08:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I was only adding a single wiki link to allow latter run by full blown interwiki bot. I do not think I like {{Mainw}} template: interwiki links should not be hidden in the templates as this might interfere proper maintenance by bots and is confusing for people having to update those. It is also very EN wiki centric - How do you know that the "Main Wikipedia article" is in English? --Jarekt (talk) 01:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Authority control template

Hi! Please when you add a template {{Authority control}}, do it before categories section (and before the DEFAULTSORT key, if present), but not after interwiki section. And if the bot will fix the structure of description & category pages, making the next order of sections (from top to bottom):

1. Description and Navigation templates
   (including {{Authority control}} template)
2. empty row
3. DEFAULTSORT key
4. Categories section
5. empty row
6. Iterwiki section

- it would be absolutely wonderful! ;) Thanks in advance! --Kaganer (talk) 13:28, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Adding {{Authority control}} is done using very simple AWB functionality to move data from a spreadsheet. Right now I was just appending to the existing page, but I can anchor it in relation to DEFAULTSORT, if preferable (and if one exists). However, the AWB bot does not capability to reshuffle the category pages (or I do not know how to do it). That would have to be done by some specialized bot, may be written in pywikipediabot framework. --Jarekt (talk) 13:51, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Your approach shouldn't make any visible difference. --  Docu  at 10:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for doing my request at Bots/Works requests. Looks good. --  Docu  at 10:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

You welcome. I was thinking about it for a while, (possibly due to your suggestion), and the immediate cause of the effort was this discussion. Also more automatic bot would be useful. Right now I just used AWB to scrape the information from German wiki and use AWB again to copy it to Commons. --Jarekt (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Bug report

[5] missing "|" sign broke the template. Materialscientist (talk) 13:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, That was one time change a year ago and I did not hear about any other issues. I looked on other edits from this day here and they all seem fine. I am not sure what happen. --Jarekt (talk) 02:47, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

self portraits

Heloo, you have added Category:Self-portraits to imagess from Category:Retratos de Españoles ilustres, I cannot see why.--Zolo (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

No idea. I was adding Category:Self-portraits to images where search found word "self-portrait" in several languages. I tested bunch and they were all fine. I will look into it and fix this category. Thanks for alerting me. --Jarekt (talk) 13:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Would it also be possible to skip files already in subcategories of category:Self-portraits ?--Zolo (talk) 15:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I filtered out all images within 3 levels from Category:Self-portraits. --Jarekt (talk) 15:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

So I guess we need 4--Zolo (talk) 15:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Looking at a few other errors I would guess that you somehow used "retrato" (portrait) rather than "autorretrato" for Spanish.

I generally do this manually. Frequently it turns up images with missing permissions. --  Docu  at 06:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Fixed I believe I identified and fixed all files I incorrectly added "self-portrait" category to. --Jarekt (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks.--Zolo (talk) 12:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Information => Painting

At [6] somehow this messed up the description. Not that it was ideal before. --  Docu  at 11:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure how this messed up the description. Can you elaborate? The only issue I see with it (which I fixed) was confusion of author of the artwork vs. author of the photo, and date of the original artwork vs. date of the photo, etc. Is that what you are referring to? --Jarekt (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

With a photograph of a sculpture it's fairly obvious that author= in {{Information}} may be the photographer. For a painting (or file description page that was using {{Painting}}), the photographer is rather pointless to have in "artist=". If you change author= to artist=, it's quite likely that we end up with photographers of sculptures in the artist field. --  Docu  at 05:34, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

redirecting location categories replacing [from] by [of]

Hi, This bot has now 'improved' the location categories at a few files. I have however been using'[from] in all location categories sofar. There is no value in change [from] to [of], it may be better English, but it is of no effect to understanding the category. If your bot makes these changes because there is a wiki policy prescribing it, please let me know where I can find it and I will adhere. If not, please leave it to my descretion.

This bot does not know anything about grammar of category names. It only occasionally cleans Category:Non-empty category redirects. You need to talk to the editors who created the category redirect. --Jarekt (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

replacing category "Halle (Westf.)" with "Halle (Westfalen)

You have recategorized a number of files, replacing the category "Halle (Westf.)" with "Halle (Westfalen). The official name of the town, however, is "Halle (Westf.)" and hence this should also be the category name. Pls. change back. Thank you! --Hagar66 (talk) 08:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

This bot did not decide to replace category "Halle (Westf.)" with "Halle (Westfalen), user:Foroa did with this edit]. My bot only occasionally cleans Category:Non-empty category redirects. You need to talk to user:Foroa who created the category redirect and discuss it with him/her. Than you can create redirect in the other direction and my, or other bot will move the content. Greetings --Jarekt (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

According to Commons conventions, the name should be En:Halle, North Rhine-Westphalia, but Commons has some tolerance for the disambiguation term and its notation. We however do certainly not support abbreviations such as Westf. --Foroa (talk) 15:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I see. Despite having worked in abundance on commons I didn't know that. I certainly do not have a heart for disambiguations and therefore vote for a rename according to the rules, thus favour a full recat to En:Halle, North Rhine-Westphalia. --Hagar66 (talk) 18:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

"}}"

The Bot seems to add one "}}" to much.[7] Cheers --Kolja21 (talk) 03:11, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I fix it. I am not sure what was the issue with this one-time job but I guess the bot did not like <noinclude></noinclude> section. I will check if there were more of those. --Jarekt (talk) 03:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate categories

Jarekt, on 25 June 2011 many new categories were created by the bot, apparently for Italian artists. But in a number of cases, there was already an existing category, with different capitisation. Below is a list, I'd like to ask you need to clean up the duplications the bot created. A few were created after the bot.

1. Category:Andrea Da Murano
2. Category:Antonio Da Firenze
3. Category:Antonio Da Negroponte
4. Category:Antonio Da Trento
5. Category:Barna Da Siena
6. Category:Bartolomeo Della Gatta
7. Category:Bartolomeo Di Fruosino
8. Category:Bartolomeo Di Giovanni
9. Category:Benedetto Da Maiano
10. Category:Bernard D'Agesci
11. Category:Cecco Del Caravaggio
12. Category:Cesare Da Sesto
13. Category:Fiorenzo Di Lorenzo
14. Category:Francesco Di Antonio Del Chierico
15. Category:Francesco Di Vannuccio
16. Category:Gherardo Di Giovanni
17. Category:Giovanni Da Milano
18. Category:Giovanni Da Modena
19. Category:Giovanni Da San Giovanni
20. Category:Giovanni Da Udine
21. Category:Giovanni D'Alemagna
22. Category:Girolamo Da Cremona
23. Category:Girolamo Del Pacchia
24. Category:Girolamo Di Benvenuto
25. Category:Giusto De' Menabuoi
26. Category:Guido Da Siena
27. Category:Jacobello Del Fiore
28. Category:Jacopo Del Casentino
29. Category:Juan Pantoja De La Cruz
30. Category:Leonardo Da Pistoia
31. Category:Lorenzo Da Viterbo
32. Category:Lorenzo Di Alessandro Da Sanseverino
33. Category:Mariotto Di Nardo
34. Category:Memmo Di Filippuccio
35. Category:Michele Di Matteo
36. Category:Michele Pace Del Campidoglio
37. Category:Michelino Da Besozzo
38. Category:Pellegrino Da San Daniele
39. Category:Perino Del Vaga
40. Category:Peter Hemmel Von Andlau
41. Category:Piermatteo D'Amelia
42. Category:Pietro Da Rimini
43. Category:Pietro Di Giovanni D'Ambrogio
44. Category:Polidoro Da Caravaggio
45. Category:Serafino de Tivoli
46. Category:Tanzio Da Varallo
47. Category:Theophanes The Cretan
48. Category:Villard De Honnecourt

Benchill (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the list. I noticed that among few hundred categories I was creating based on WGA authors, some ended up with incorrect names. I fixed a bunch but not all. I will correct the rest. --Jarekt (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jarekt. Benchill (talk) 01:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 04:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Why put categories at the end

Hello Jarek,
Your bot is moving categories after interwiki (here, again, more).
Could you fix that ? Categories need to be before interwiki.
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 08:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Opps, I thought I checked that, especially after my discussion here it is rather ambarasing. I do not have access to that computer at the moment so I blocked the bot for 2 hours. --Jarekt (talk) 12:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, no trouble. The thing is moving categories is not a good idea as they are often comments associated with those cat (see here the comment). Best regards Liné1 (talk) 14:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

You bot is running again with the same behavior. Cheers Liné1 (talk) 16:17, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. I thought any block will stop the script, but apparently not. I blocked it for a day this time, and will fix it in the evening. --Jarekt (talk) 16:26, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Institution:Museu_Nacional_d'Arte_Antiga,_Lisbon

Institution:Museu_Nacional_d'Arte_Antiga,_Lisbon has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this institution, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

DutchHoratius (talk) 15:09, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Institution:Museu_Nacional_de_Arte_Antiga,_Lisbon

Institution:Museu_Nacional_de_Arte_Antiga,_Lisbon has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this institution, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

DutchHoratius (talk) 15:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)