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Explanation

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Hi Hanay. I noticed that you've made a malformed deletion request. When you want to delete a file with the {{Delete}} template, you must follow the instructions in the template, including the "Click here to show further instructions" portion. Alternatively, you can click the "Nominate for deletion" link in the left sidebar, under the "tools" section, which does all of the work for you. Please do one of these, otherwise you create a lot of work for other people. If you don't see the "Nominate for deletion" link in the left sidebar, you can use the JavaScript method of enabling AjaxQuickDelete on Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets once and then refresh once.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff G., Hanay created Category:Unrises from Nesher mistakenly instead of Category:Sunrises from Nesher. She added the template {{Delete}} and explained in the edit summary "opened by mistake". I don't think that the title "Warning" is proper her. It should be deleted as bad name or author request. It should not be redirected. -- Geagea (talk) 06:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As Geagea wrote. The title "Warning" is not nice. you can write explanation. Hanay (talk) 09:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Geagea and Hanay: I'm sorry if I overstepped. For months, I have been railing against incomplete deletion requests, which are caused by‎ malformed use of {{Delete}} templates and lack of follow-through, and which are populating Category:Incomplete deletion requests‎ and subcats. This problem spurred the creation of that category 17:57, 1 February 2007‎ (UTC), nearly 14 years ago, and my tracking of it 18:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC), over two months ago. ColorfulSmoke was blocked 17:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC) by Mdaniels5757 with an expiration time of 3 days (account creation blocked) for "Continuing to make malformed deletion requests despite repeated instructions; not responding to concerns on talk page" pursuant to the discussion archived at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections/Archive 29#ColorfulSmoke. My warning was based on this edit, also by Mdaniels5757, and also with the title "Warning". In particular, Hanay did not: use {{G7}}; include the year, month or day in {{Delete}}; and create the DR. Because she did not create the DR, she had no opportunity to further: include a section header in the DR; transclude the DR in the daily log; and notify the author of the DR. I will use speedy deletions citing COM:CSD#G7 and the underlying edits for future attempted deletions of improperly and implausibly spelled category names.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jeff G. I would appreciate, if you will change the title of this paragraph from "warning" to " explanation". Thanks. Hanay (talk) 16:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 17:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jeff G., Just a remark. {{Delete}} is legitimately in Commons. Using that template not violate any of Commons rules. If you think that users should not use that template just nominate the template to delation. And always remember that this project is multilingual project and you should offer a simple way to ask whatever to be deleted that will be simple enough to use also for non-native English speakers. -- Geagea (talk) 04:08, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Geagea: I did it again after this edit. The proper template here is {{Speedy}}.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Africa

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Dear Hanay

In the past, you contributed to the Wiki Loves Africa competition. You have another opportunity to create and submit beautiful photographs on the theme of "Health and Wellness" that could change how the world understands people and culture in your part of Africa. As with previous years, there are also many exciting national and international prizes.

For rules and information about how to participate, theme, or prizes click on Contribute to the Wiki Loves Africa photo contest or directly add picture from the button !

Warmest, Anthere, for the Wiki Loves Africa Team

Cher ou chère Hanay,
Au cours des années passées, vous avez participé au concours photographique Wiki Loves Africa. Vous avez à nouveau l'opportunité de proposer de fabuleuses illustrations sur le thème de "la santé et le bien-être", qui pourraient profondément modifier la façon dont le reste du monde voit l’Afrique et comprend ses habitants et ses coutumes. Bonus, comme lors des années précédentes, il y a plusieurs prix à la clé !

Pour plus d'informations, règles de participation, le thème ou les prix, cliquez sur Participer au concours Wiki Loves Africa ou téléversez des photos en cliquant sur le bouton !

Bien à vous, Anthere, pour l'équipe Wiki Loves Africa

A barnstar for you!

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The Photographer's Barnstar
I use many carefully selected (and properly attributed) wikimedia images in my website (alamapa.com - a site dedicated to biblical geography) and I just noticed that many of them (currently 13) we taken by you - e.g. in http://alamapa.com/location/%d7%99%d7%a7%d7%a0%d7%a2%d7%9d, http://alamapa.com/location/%d7%9c%d7%91%d7%a0%d7%aa, and others. I would like to take the opportunity and thank you for contributing such high level images of locations in Israel. Thanks! Aaadir (talk) 20:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi User:Aaadir, this is very nice. I checked your website and I found also that there is no credit at all to me under the pictures. So, you are violate my copyright. I aske you to add under every picture of mine that the photographer is Hana Yariv, or at least Hanay as my user name on Wikimedia Commons. Thank you Hanay (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Hanay. I'm sorry you didn't see the credits. All the images in alamapa including your photographs do in fact credit their creator or/and photographer. As explained in the home page (http://alamapa.com) and figures-help page (http://alamapa.com/helpfigures), the credit appears at the bottom of every image via the (i) symbol that appears there. Pressing this (i) symbol gives a summary of the credit and license, and also a link to the original wikimedia page with the full info on the image. I checked your images again just to make sure, and the credit to you is indeed there. Please check the above two examples images again and let me know if there is a problem. If you are not happy with this arrangement (deemed sufficient by wikimedia advisor), please let me know and I'll regretfully remove your images (though I would be very sad if it comes to that). Thanks again, --Aaadir (talk) 06:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
עברית: אני מעדיפה להתכתב בעברית. עכשיו ראיתי שעל התמונה יש משהו קטן למטה משמאל שנראה כמו מצלמה ואם לוחצים על הציור הקטן הזה, אז מופיע הקרדיט. אז פורמלית אתה כנראה מכוסה, מעשית זה מוחבא ככל האפשר. למה אדם שנכנס לאתר שלך יתאמץ לחפש מי הצלם של התמונה? אפילו אני שראיתי את המשהו הזה למטה משמאל, התייחסתי לכך כמעין לכלוך ולא לחצתי עליו. כן לחצתי על התמונה עצמה ודבר לא הופיע. לטעמי הקרדיט צריך להופיע מתחת לתמונה ליד כיתוב ההסבר מה מצולם בתמונה. זה הדבר הנכון לעשותו.
User:Geagea What do you think about it? Thank you.
User:Aaadir Hanay (talk) 03:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hanay. I'm sorry again for having caused such trouble, especially since I really love your pictures so much. As far as copyright law, as you said, I'm pretty sure that I'm fine, because I also took a copyright attorney some time ago to review all the copyright aspects of alamapa.com and he didn't have any comment about this crediting method. I think even in Wikipedia only the image description appears below the image (as it does in alamapa) usually not the text of the credit, and one needs to press a (perhaps more noticeable) symbol to get to the wikimedia page with the creator/license info.

So the remaining issue is being fair to the creators and aesthetic considerations. From the point of view of web design I wouldn't like to clutter the page with too much additional text beyond the image description. I therefore added an explanation of this (i) symbol at the bottom of all the images in (1) the home page (2) the figures help menu accessible from every page in alamapa.com, and (3) the legal issues page. Also I think that if someone visits the website for educational purposes a few times it will be clear that the (i) symbol is there in ALL the images. I understand your frustration however that you were not able to notice it on your first time so I can try to make it a bit larger, or maybe use some other symbol so it becomes more noticeable, or maybe set it so that pressing anywhere on the image would lead to the same info as pressing the (i) symbol? Still, even though I'm probably legally fine, if you feel you are not getting credit for your images by this method I would totally understand and would, very regretfully, drop the images. --Aaadir (talk) 07:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

עברית: אני מסכים. ה-i הוא שקוף ואם למשל בתמונה יש משהו כחול מתחתיו אז הוא בכלל לא יראה. מעבר עם העכבר על ה-i לא אומר שיש שם קישור. זה לא מספיק ברור. שלא כמו באתר עלמפה, בוויקיפדיה אם לוחצים על תמונה מקבלים מידע מלא על היוצר, תאריך התצלום ועוד. אני חושב שקרדיט נכון להצגה בתיאור (אפילו בכת קטן יותר) באופן הבא: Hanay / CC-BY-SA-3.0 וכן קישור מהייחוס לדף התמונה.-- Geagea (talk) 09:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hanay, Geagea. Ok so I think I'll follow Geagea's comments at least in part, and follow Wikipedia's scheme so that, beyond the sometimes fuzzy symbol, when the user presses the image itself the credit/license info is shown and a link to the wikimedia page with the detailed info is given. Again, as in wikipedia, I wouldn't like to have the credit/license info appear all the time, but only when the image or symbol is pressed, to avoid clutter. Hanay - if this improvement is acceptable to you I'll be glad to keep using your images. Thanks for your advice. --Aaadir (talk) 10:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Milk_processing_at_ancient_time

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E4024 (talk) 14:05, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

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Yours sincerely, -M.nelson (talk) 18:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

M.nelson You made a mistake when you requested to delete this image. It is a picture of the lake and the nymphs, not of the basilica which is a small part of the picture. There is no real reason to delete it. And why not open a separate discussion for each image? Why complicate this discussion? Hanay (talk) 22:41, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I replied re "small part of the picture" at the deletion discussion. As for why nominate together - it's standard practice to nominate a group of similar images with the same suspected issue together, as shown by the two historical nominations on the same page as my nomination. Individual exceptions can always come out during the discussion. -M.nelson (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
M.nelson Now that you are aware that the photo is not of the basilica but of the lake and the nymphs, you should remove the image from the deletion vote. It is advisable to check the contents of a file before uploading to a delete vote, and not just rely on a file name. Many times it is inaccurate. Hanay (talk) 16:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hanay: I'm sorry, but I disagree with your assertion and still believe that it is a copyright violation, exceeding de minimis. I trust that the closing administrator will review the entire discussion and make an informed decision to keep or delete the file. -M.nelson (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:High schools and secondary school in Nesher

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  — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:30, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff G. This category has compiled pictures of schools in the city of Nesher. I copied the name from other categories. Now that the category has been deleted, where can I find all the pictures of the schools in Nesher? Do I now have to go through the thousands of pictures of the city of Nesher to create a new category? Or did you create such a category? If so, I would love to get the category name, if not, I think you acted too quickly.
User:Geagea I saw that you deleted this category, can you help? Thanks. Hanay (talk) 04:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hanay, you have added {{Delete}} with the edit summery: "Incorrect name". Jeff just changed it to speede deletion. -- Geagea (talk) 09:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that was a long time ago. I thought they deleted the right category. Thanks. Hanay (talk) 14:49, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

???

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Hi, could you tell me the difference between:

and

They look as if they are located in the place? Also, none of them are related to Khirbat el-Waziya, as that is south of Julis, cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:55, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there no answer? Huldra (talk) 20:50, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Huldra, I apologize for not answering before, but Hurvat Heshek is north of Khirbet Mehoz. There is an excellent website in Hebrew called Amud Anan. I do not know if you read Hebrew, but it is best to check there see here. There is a marking on the map where each archeological site is located. Hanay (talk) 16:22, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Desert_kite_–_Archaeology_site

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Notification about possible deletion

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Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

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Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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And also:

Yours sincerely, Adamant1 (talk) 21:12, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

selenicereus picture

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Hi, I don't know how to contact you - I hope I do it the right way. I strongly suspect the selenicereus grandiflorus picture you uploaded this summer to be mislabelled : the 3 winged stems don't match S. grandilorus. More probably, it's one of the former Hylocereus species : they have been recently included in Selenicereus too as S. undatus and S. megalanthus.

I'm just a hobbyist, so if possible check the ID with a specialist.

Kind regards Ethyle64 (talk) 18:29, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I would appreciate it if you could give me a link to the pictures I uploaded. I upload many pictures, and this will make it easier for me to refer. Thanks Hanay (talk) 13:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, the picture I'm wondering about is https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%9B%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%94_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%97%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%92%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%AA_%D7%A0%D7%A9%D7%A8._06.jpg#mw-jump-to-license. Compare with https://worldofsucculents.com/hylocereus-undatus-night-blooming-cereus-pitaya-dragon-fruit-strawberry-pear/, which is Selenicereus (ex-Hylocereus) undatus, a species much more likely to be grown for its fruits.
Kind regards Ethyle64 (talk) 07:36, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
File:מלכת הלילה פורחת בגבעת נשר. 06.jpg look at Category:Selenicereus grandiflorus. It looks the sameץ Do you have another suggestion? Hanay (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Hanay,
sorry for the late reply ; once again, your plant is most probably Selenicereus (formerly Hylocereus) undatus.
In botany one has to be careful with "it looks the same" - similarities are expected for plants belonging to a same family (cactaceae), more if they belong to a same tribe (hylocereeae) and even more for plants of a same genus (Selenicereus) ; so botanical descriptions and diagnoses stress differences rather than similarities.
If you look at the drawing at the top of the page, you'll see that the stems are thinly cylindrical with - according to the description, 7-8 ribs ; on your picture, stems are very different, clearly wider & 3-winged.
There's on en.wikipedia an article on Selenicereus undatus (formerly Hylocereus undatus, until molecular evidence showed that there was no way to keep Selenicereus & Hylocereus as separate genera) with a lot of pics : you will recognise the 3 smoothly undulating wings on the stems, and also the overall hue of the flower, white on green rather than white on gold.
I have really no doubt that your plant is NOT what you think it is ; I only can't be positive it's Hylocereus undatus since I know only vaguely what the other former Hylocereus look like, maybe another Hylocereus species would better match your picture.
Anyway, as Hylocereus undatus is widely grown as a fruit crop, it's much more likely to be encountered as Selenicereus grandiflorus, whose fruits, though probably edible, aren't commercially grown.
Kind regards Ethyle64 (talk) 17:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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