User talk:FDMS4/archive/2014/IV

Thanks

For catching the misplaced colon on User:Willscrlt/meta/lang and fixing it for me. Now I need to replicate that to the other wikis. :-) —Willscrlt ( Talk | w:en | b:en | meta ) 01:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome :) .    FDMS  4    02:01, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

U-Bahnhöfe

Hallo FDMS, ich halte die Umbenennung von Category:U-Bahnhof Hohenzollernplatz (München) zu Category:Hohenzollernplatz metro station (Munich) und ebenso Category:U-Bahnhof Hauptbahnhof (München) zu Category:Hauptbahnhof metro station (Munich) für nicht vorteilhaft: Auf Objektebene kann bei Eigennamen ("proper names") ja von der Englisch-Regel abgewichen werden und im konkreten Fall ist beim Hauptbahnhof nun nicht mehr klar, ob es um die S-Bahn-, die U-Bahn- oder die Straßenbahnhaltestelle geht - "Metro" ist kein so eindeutiger Begriff. Außerdem sind die Einträge unter Category:U-Bahn stations in Munich alle ziemlich einheitlich benannt, da jetzt einige umzubenennen, macht es unübersichtlicher, ohne dass ich einen konkreten Nutzen erkennen könnte. Viele Grüße, --Rudolph Buch (talk) 12:31, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hm, schwieriges Thema :) . Ich habe ehrlich gesagt mit Opposition gerechnet, deshalb habe ich nur zwei kleine Kategorien umbenannt, die zusätzlich noch eine deutsche Begriffsklärung hatten. Ich glaube schon dass metro eindeutig ist, besonders wenn man U-Bahnen anderer Länder auf Commons "besucht". Letzlich gibt es aber im U-Bahn-Bereich allgemein soweit ich weiß keinen Konsens zur Verwendung von metro station vs. U-Bahnhof. Wenn es dich aber bezüglich Eigenname überzeugt: Die MVG selbst spricht auf ihrer englischen Website von "underground stations": http://www.mvg-mobil.de/en/safety.html. Falls nicht kann ich gerne ein CFD starten (und dann auch ggf. einen "kleinen" Konsens akzeptieren). Grüße,    FDMS  4    12:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Ja, nicht einfach - auch weil sich offenbar sogar die Native Speaker uneinig sind, wie man das Ding nennt: Aus den USA kenne ich "Metro" eher als Schnellbahnsystem analog zu unseren S-Bahnen (sonst wäre es "Subway") und in UK sagen sie ja wohl "Underground" dazu. Die Münchner selbst, das hast Du ja verlinkt, sprechen von "Underground" und übersetzen die S-Bahn mit "Urban Rail". Dass es relativ viele "Metro"-Kategorien auf Commons gibt, könnte auch daran liegen, dass es häufig die Eigenbezeichnung ist und eben gerade keine Übersetzung. Und wenn die englische Bezeichnung uneindeutig ist, frage ich, ob man nicht gleich besser die deutsche lässt. Aber egal - ich mache da sicher keinen Glaubenskrieg draus: Wichtig wäre mir vor allem, dass es einheitlich bleibt. Das lässt sich mit einer CfD sicher besser klären, dann haben wir entweder breiteren Konsens für den Status quo oder eine sichere Basis für die Umbenennung auch aller anderen Kategorien. --Rudolph Buch (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

@Rudolph Buch: Sorry für die Verspätung! Hier ist der CFD: Commons:Categories for discussion/2014/10/Category:U-Bahn stations in Munich. Könntest du noch (weitere) Benutzer pingen, die deiner Meinung nach Interesse an der Diskussion haben könnten?    FDMS  4    21:28, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Buses in New York City

I have replied on my talk page. I look forward to your comments on the points I've raised (and no, I genuinely do, that isn't sarcasm!). Skinsmoke (talk) 14:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

@Skinsmoke: I appreciate that, but I'm busy at the moment, so please don't expect to receive a reply before 20:00 (UTC). Sorry for that!    FDMS  4    14:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem. Skinsmoke (talk) 14:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

RE: your signature

FDMS4:

Otro castigo. No tienen autoridad, solo tienen poder. Tal vez lo logren y se queden solo ustedes.

Saludos de Girardelli G.Escucho 13:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Good to see you removed the image. Not so good to see you still think you are constantly getting punished here.    FDMS  4    14:54, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Por cortesía podría contestar en mi página de discusión.

¿Todavía? ¿Ya tendrían que haber cesado los castigos? ¿Cuando van a parar? o será una eterna persecución.

Girardelli G.Escucho 22:03, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Please keep a discussion on one talkpage (and watch it). I am afraid that whatever I do, you will see it as a "punishment". There is no conspiracy going on here.    FDMS  4    22:59, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Stop harassing me.

I was here before you and now EXACTLY what the rules say. Show me where it is stated I have to put that awful box in my DP, please. It's clearly indicated where you can find the so called "archive" there. In there you'll find that I promoted 51 of my own pictures to QI level (when I used to care about this broken place) and donated more than 4500 pics (nothing I can do to undo this, unfortunately). And your completely unhelpful automated deletion banners I'm not obligated to read since you yourself canceled your mass deletion proposal. Happily we can always load this pictures somewhere else. I'm on this projetct only to take care of the pictures I'm the author and only because I have no other choice on this. From time to time, some crazy always show up trying to delete something, curiously. José Luiz ^disc 09:03, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

And for what I can gather reading YOUR talk page, I know exactly the type of user you think you are.... If you come back to my DP to waste more of my time (since you seem to have a lot of time to waste harassing people), I'll undo your edits, so if you think you are right, I recommend you find some sysop to mediate, because I do not have anything else to say to you. And I truly believe I'm not alone in this. José Luiz ^disc 09:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jbribeiro1: Just place a link the archive … if you want to, in <small><small> tags. After a few months or years, your talkpage will likely be full of notices and invitations again, and no one would be able to find the link in the history. I'm not harassing you – to be honest, I'm not quite sure why I had your talkpage on my watchlist in the first place. Please assume good faith, I can assure you that (almost) all of the deletion requests started have been done so with good intentions.    FDMS  4    15:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Translated Table test

I deleted the template and talk there, since it was more to keep track of a specific bug at the time. It is not corresponding to a sandbox and too specific to be a testcase. Esby (talk) 13:07, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your rapid and helpful response to my question at the Village Pump! Pleasantville1972 (talk) 03:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome!    FDMS  4    12:33, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for fixing {{KOAL}} and {{KOGL}}. — revimsg 15:37, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! And sorry for not expressing myself clearly yesterday.    FDMS  4    15:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Template in File:Autódromo 9 de Julio.svg

The user Gustavo Girardelli made the old versions of this file by tracing contents from Google maps, which is a copyright violation. So I indicated him to use OpenStreetMap instead, that has a compatible license.

After tracing the map from [1], he added the OpenStreetMap template. I think that the template should not be erased.

Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Alpertron: I don't think the racing circuit is © OpenStreetMap (also, it looks different there), if it's copyrightable at all the "architect" of it would be the copyright holder. However, I certainly don't want to cause any additional confusion for Gustavo Girardelli here, so if you told him it's © OpenStreetMap feel free to revert my removal. Although the CC BY-SA 4.0 is non-revocable …    FDMS  4    13:51, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

He knows a lot about car racing in Argentina so some annotations were done by himself. The only thing that he changed was the tracing of the tracks. I do not want that all of his work be erased just because he traced it from Google Maps. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 14:27, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Erm … that's not how copyright works. Either a work copyrighted by the original author or someone who acquired the copyrights, or it is not copyrighted at all.    FDMS  4    14:36, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

If he traced the racing tracks from Google Maps, even if he adds his own markings, the result is a derivative work from Google Maps, so he is not allowed to upload the SVG file to Commons. But if he traces the tracks from OpenStreetMap (licensed as Open Data Commons Open Database License) and then he adds his own markings, he can license the SVG file as CC BY-SA 4.0 and upload the work here. Best regards, Alpertron (talk) 15:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

No … ? The racing circuit itself isn't copyrightable, as there is FOP in Argentina. The drawing is a derivative work of that circuit, no matter what source has been used to draw it. If the racing circuit was actually a Google Maps hoax, derivative works of it would be copyvios. File:U-Bahn Wien.svg wouldn't be a copyvio either even if File:U (4534631571).jpg was used used to draw it.    FDMS  4    01:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Replaced user talkspace template...

Hi. Can you explaine why you make these changes ? We've created a template especially for the Photo challenge. Is there some talk about your changes ? Did some "admin" of the Challenge assked you to do it ? --Llann .\m/ ^{(Lie 2 me ...)} 01:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

"Edit conflict" …    FDMS  4    01:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

File:Klaas Jan Mulder.jpg

File:Klaas Jan Mulder.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Edoderoo (talk) 14:49, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Cats deletion

Hello. What's goin' on ?? Thib Phil (talk) 02:33, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Edit conflict – I was just about to post something on your user talkpage. Please continue the discussion there.    FDMS  4    02:34, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

File talk:Cc-nd white.svg

Sorry, mein edit war ein Flüchtigkeitsfehler. Bei näherem Hinsehen komme ich zur Meinung, dass für U+229C die Unicode-Bedingung gelten sollte. Grüße in den XIX. sarang♥사랑 18:15, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Kein Problem, wobei ich nicht glaube dass das Symbol vom Unicode-Zeichen abgeleitet ist … Hauptsache PD. Grüße in den Westen,    FDMS  4    19:44, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Prets Brussels 2008-03.jpg

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And also:

• File:Nowak wiki.jpg

Yours sincerely, Green Giant (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

@Green Giant: Erm … why? There's {{Remove this line and insert a license instead}} already anyway …    FDMS  4    00:06, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

That template only categorises under a subcategory of Category:Media uploaded without a license but it doesn't notify the uploader. The notice at the top of that category suggests actions to be taken including tagging with a date-specific template like the no-license one. If you look at Category:Media uploaded without a license as of 2014-10, you will see it has 466 files but the two remaining October subcategories in Category:Media without a license have 428 files so there are 38 files where the uploader hasn't attended to the licensing and nobody else knows about it yet. Green Giant (talk) 01:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, I think those notifications are quite unnecessary, as there is already a warning in the UploadWizard. In my opinion, the UW could just as well add {{subst:nld}} itself … Will have to propose that at some point in the future :) .    FDMS  4    12:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Let me know when you propose this, so I can add my support. To be honest I think it should also add a no-source and no-author template if those are missing. Green Giant (talk) 13:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation names in categories

Hi there, and thank you for your message. If a street or a place is unique with its name, then as a general rule it does not need a disambiguation. For further information see here [2]. Disambiguation only makes sense, if there is a realistic chance of the place getting confused with another one, and even in these cases normally the most commonly known place sometimes takes precedence over others (for example Category:White House, Category:Broadway, etc.) Also there is no policy in Wikipedia or Wikimedia which states that disambiguation is mandatory even for singular places. Many of the singular categories started out without the “xyz, Vienna” format in its name, I have restored them back to their original name. Please try to keep it simple instead of unnecessarily overcomplicating names when it makes no sense or there is no basis for it. Thank you for your understanding. Gryffindor (talk) 09:37, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for commenting in German on your talkpage. I personally agree with you, but other users did not agree with me at User talk:Gugerell#, Vienna.    FDMS  4    19:18, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Nowak wiki.jpg

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No required license templates were detected at this file page. Please correct it, or if you have any questions please check my FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Yours sincerely, Jarekt (talk) 05:15, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Ahem … Jarekt?    FDMS  4    08:59, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

What's happen with the others files

Sorry for my poor English, but I want to know What's happen with these imagens?

• File:Sara Kraft frame.jpg
• Sara Kraft.jpg
• Sara Kroft.png
• Power Lass.jpg
• Jungle Babe.jpg
• Hexanna.png
• Go-Gal pp.jpg
• Got-Gal.jpg

All ot them were deleted and all of them got the same right that Ms Americana.jpg, now restored.

Thanks --Incal (talk) 12:18, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Incal, the sent eMail only released File:00mrx1new.jpg. Were the other images derived from the now restored image? Ping User:Jcb.    FDMS  4    12:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Special:ListGroupRights

Hi, auf Commons:License review wolltest Du einen für OTRS-Mitglieder und Admins irrelevanten Abschnitt mit display:none verbergen. Das funktioniert nicht richtig:

1. Der Abschnitt ist weiter im Inhaltsverzeichnis zu sehen, aber wegen des ganzen Translate-Mülls nicht mehr separat editierbar. Einfachste Lösung zur Besichtigung wäre Ausloggen, einfachste Lösung zum Editieren ist alles editieren (vll. braucht es da ein NOEDITLINKS wg. geht sowieso nicht).
2. Image reviewer ist automatisch autopatroller, aber nicht umgekehrt. Du hattest ausser OTRS auch patroller und autopatroller auf display:none. Vielleicht ist patroller hier de facto ähnlich zu image reviewer, aber direkt so vorgesehen ist das auf Special:ListGroupRights oder Commons:License review nicht.

Am Ende war ich nach zwei Änderungen wieder in etwa auf dem Stand vor Deiner Änderung, und so lang ist der Abschnitt ja nun nicht, dass er ernsthaft Lesezeit von Admins oder OTRS-Mitgliedern verschwenden würde, die das alles ohnehin schon wissen. Das div ist noch da (mit display:block), falls Du bessere Klassen für display:hide probieren willst. –Be..anyone (talk) 07:25, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Be..anyone (talk) 12:30, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Did you receive email from Caroline?

She responded to your inquiry. EtienneDolet (talk) 00:27, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

 Responded. Thank you!    FDMS  4    13:54, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Norwegian way of life

Hi, ich räume gerade etwas in der Sparte Painters from Norway auf und habe gesehen, dass du einen redirect von 19th-century norwegian way of life in paintings nach 19th-century paintings from Norway erstellt hast. Formell würde ich mal sagen, dass das so nicht richtig ist. Way of life paintings sind Genre-Gemälde. Gemälde aus Norwegen sollten auch aus Norwegen stammen, doch viele der norwegischen Maler malten gerade im 19 Jh. in Deutschland, also auch die norwegische Lebensart. Ich weiß, es sind im Moment noch nicht sehr viele Gemälde zusammen gekommen, aber ich arbeite daran. Solange würde ich vorschlagen es eher auf Paintings of Norway zu verschieben. Einwände oder hast du einen anderen Vorschlag? - Liebe Grüße --Sjokolade (talk) 09:50, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Sjokolade, dieser Redirect ist dabei entstanden, als ich die Way of Life-Kategorien dieses Jahrhunderts nach einer Kategoriendiskussion aufgelöst habe. Ich habe zwar versucht, mich mit dem Kategorieschema für Malereien vertraut zu machen, allerdings bin ich alles andere als ein Experte. Deshalb: Wenn du eine Änderung für eine Verbesserung hältst, tätige sie bitte.    FDMS  4    14:04, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

wird gemacht, weiterhin frohes Schaffen --Sjokolade (talk) 14:12, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

categorising

I know. That's why I was removing it while you'd posted to me. Give me a second to correct my faults by myself ;-) Wieralee (talk) 01:46, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't notice. Will do next time :) .    FDMS  4    01:47, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

PU

It's not even close to polite this type of edition: [3], this is my PU, you had to remember me that s stills there, and I would remove. With you don't know I have a talk page here: User talk:Rodrigo.Argenton.

And I'm the guy that deserves be punish here... fair enough. Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton (talk) 06:20, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, I tried not to change your userpage's layout by removing these two boxes. The removal was not intended to be interpreted as a punishment, but as an update. I am really sorry that you think I was "punishing" you by performing it, had I foreseen this (and in controversial cases), I would have discussed it with you on your talkpage first.    FDMS  4    11:27, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Special:Diff/139120324

hi FDMS4, looking at the categories it seems to be that the overriding category format is "xyz, city" and not in brackets. That is the reason why it was moved. Gryffindor (talk) 08:37, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I disagree (at least among DACH-related categories, brackets are more common), but do not plan to revert or start a new discussion for now. Please do not move these categories ([1][2]), as discussed here.    FDMS  4    22:52, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Convert to wikitable

Hallo FDMS4. Aus einem mir unbekannten Grund hast du den Löschlink aus Template:Convert to wikitable/layout nicht übernommen. Ohne diesen halte ich deine Änderung für eine Verschlechterung. --Leyo 09:36, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Hallo Leyo, völlig grundlos, tut mir leid! Ich habe mehrfach überprüft ob ich auch alle Sprachen übernommen habe, aber der Löschlink ist mir wirklich nicht aufgefallen … Kannst du ihn hierher (als Antwort) wiederherstellen? Danke,    FDMS  4    18:13, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

<span id="nuke" class="nuke" title="Delete this!" style="display:none;">[[File:Gnome-edit-delete.svg|20px|link={{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=delete&wpReason=This+table+has+globally+been+replaced+by+wikitables}}]]</span> --Leyo 21:50, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Erledigt.    FDMS  4    21:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Intérieur de métro

Bonjour,

Aucune photo d'intérieur de métro n'est catégorisée dans "Train interiors in France". Il n'y a pas de raison pour que cette photo fasse exception. Vous pouvez créer la catégorie adéquat [[Category:Train interiors of MF 67]] si vous avez le temps, et ajoutez toutes les photos d'intérieur de MF 67 dedans (il y en a au moins une dizaine) ! Cramos78 (talk) 11:57, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

No, I don't have to create a subcategory to add a file to an appropriate category. Anyway, I am not going to have that discussion with you and therefore formally don't oppose your removal anymore.    FDMS  4    21:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)