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Sockpuppetry

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DLindsley, I've blocked you for one week. Please see COM:BLOCK, particularly "Abusing multiple accounts to mislead, deceive, disrupt, distort consensus" and your edits to COM:AN/U and User talk:Tm. The duration is in consideration of your past blocks for disruptive behavior. Эlcobbola talk 22:48, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason: "I am not abusing multiple accounts. The person using the IP is not me."
Decline reason: "Enough games. I see from CU that you've used 71.64.197.17 abusively as an anonymous editor and logged in with your account, and that you've now abused another IP to comment in a DR for your own uploads and file two other DRs, etc. We don't need deception and disruption like this on Commons. INeverCry 00:06, 3 March 2015 (UTC)"[reply]
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Note that Эlcobbola is a CU; so your argument that "The person using the IP is not me" has little weight. Jee 03:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Jkadavoor: @Elcobbola: hasn't stated here whether they performed CU or not. So I am hesitant to assume it. -- Rillke(q?) 10:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rillke: "Abusing multiple accounts to mislead, deceive, disrupt, distort consensus" > yes. Otherwise it must be a bad faith accusation? Or I miss something? Jee 10:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's a maybe. Maybe there were other facts leading to this conclusion, who knows? BTW, which are the other accounts? Can't see them on in the revision history of said page. Or is Tm a sock of DLindsley? That would be indeed shocking news. Please clarify. -- Rillke(q?) 11:11, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
An IP is not a user account. elcobbola, could you revise the block rationale, please? We want to adhere to the facts, right? -- Rillke(q?) 11:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And a user revealing his IP while accidentally logged out is also not a big issue. I see only two edits from that IP. Tm is not warned; so little chances to guess him as the master account. Better wait for a response from elcobbola. :) Jee 11:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rillke, at this point I do not believe it is necessary to revise the rationale; rules regarding the use of the CU tool require as little detail as possible, even no detail. Yes, the tool was used and this is Confirmed, unambiguously. I've contacted the other CUs; the response has been that the block is appropriate. Эlcobbola talk 12:31, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I still did not use that IP. The IP made only a couple of edits, so your rationale is wrong. Therefore, the block is not appropriate and is invalid.DLindsley Place your order here. 12:58, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
elcobbola, I entirely agree with you that Check Users should disclose as little as possible about what they saw but to know the fact whether an action was backed up with a Check User Action or not is crucial. If you state that you do not believe it is necessary to revise the rationale, together with the rationale Abusing multiple accounts, I have to assume that there are other accounts by DLindsley and continuing with the rationale to mislead, deceive, disrupt, distort consensus, I am wondering why the block duration is one week and not infinite. -- Rillke(q?) 19:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Elcobbola: Your rationale is still false.DLindsley Place your order here. 21:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rillke, I don't understand your comments. "[T]o know the fact whether an action was backed up with a Check User Action or not is crucial" - I said very clearly above that the CU tool was used. Sockpuppetry is not necessarily a "capital offense" requiring an indefinite block. It was my judgement that one week would be adequate in the circumstance, and other CUs have agreed. Frankly, with DLindsley's behaviour here and other wikis (blocked indefinitely on en.wiki and de.wiki, for example), he is likely on the path to an indefinite block anyway. Эlcobbola talk 16:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Elcobbola: Rillke proves you wrong here. I did not use accounts, nor did I use any IPs. Now we both agree that you are wrong. DLindsley Place your order here. 21:18, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll make a deal with you. I'll look take a fresh look at your case, including CU data, and give you a fair hearing. I will not let myself be influenced by an old boys' club| (i.e., what the other CUs want me to say).
  • If it looks inconclusive that you are guilty of what you're charged for, I will remove your block.
  • If it looks pretty likely but not definite, I will keep your block in place.
  • If it looks unambiguous, I will extend your block by a week.
Do you agree to take this deal? You are absolutely free to decline, although I think that will speak volumes as to whether you are guilty or not. I have no desire to see you fail or be persecuted by anyone, but keep in mind the repercussions either way. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:04, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I agree to take this deal. DLindsley Place your order here. 23:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The above talk about a deal is you trying to take advantage of Magog the Ogre's willingness to give you a chance. At the same time you're agreeing to this deal, you know you've edited at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by DLindsley, filed several DRs, and created a sleeper account with a very questionable name (User:Conboy456). I like to give people a chance, but first you pretend that Elcobbola's lying, and then you pretend you're ready to work with Magog. No wonder you're indeffed at other projects. INeverCry 00:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I struck my comments, so never mind them. Also, it must have been someone else who created that account, because I know for a fact that it was not me.
P.S. I actually agreed to take the deal, and did not pretend to. DLindsley Place your order here. 12:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment @INeverCry: I revoked DLindsley talk page access. Seems only here for making deceptive comments. We have a huge backlog here on commons, therefore we should not wast too much time with such users :-) --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:12, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Josve05a (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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INeverCry 00:06, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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These files have been nominated for deletion.    FDMS  4    00:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your VFC installation method is deprecated

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Hello DLindsley, we are aware that using the old installation method of VFC (via common.js, which you are using) may not work reliably anymore and can break other scripts as well. A detailed explanation can be found here. Important: To prevent problems please remove the old VFC installation code from your common.js and instead enable the VFC gadget in your preferences. Thanks! --VFC devs (q) 16:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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