User talk:Allforrous/Archive 7
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Empirical laws has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Jochen Burghardt (talk) 07:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Scientific_problems has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Jochen Burghardt (talk) 19:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Winchester football is not Association football
Hi, you have now twice incorrectly attempted to classify File:Winchester Football in 1838 by Richard Baigent.jpg as "Association football", aka soccer. That is a different game entirely. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- Oh I see, there was a (small letters) "Football" cat which I guess you were trying to do something with. I've removed it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
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Adages has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Mike Peel (talk) 12:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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Modern yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Yoga_therapists has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Selling_Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:51, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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A History of Modern Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Positioning_Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Yoga_in_Britain:_Stretching_Spirituality_and_Educating_Yogis has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Modern Denominational Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:31, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Yoga_for_Indie_Rockers has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Yoga_media has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:28, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Allforrous, I see you are populating this category, which you created for the 2005 yoga book "Positioning Yoga" by Sarah Strauss, with a wide range of images which have nothing to do with that book.
It looks to me (if I may hazard a guess as to your motives) as if you think "Positioning Yoga" is a synonym for "yoga position, asana, yoga pose". Firstly, it is not; it is a book title, chosen, as academic book titles often are, in a punning way (a play on words) to echo both "yoga position" and "positioning the activity of yoga in Western culture". It is not a widely-used term, indeed I have read many books on yoga and it's used basically nowhere else. Secondly, if it was a synonym for "asana", it would be the subject of a Category Redirect as it is (by far) the junior term; it makes no sense to create a rival category for anything as well-known and widely-used as "asana".
So, either it's a book category, and you are inserting images which are nothing to do with the book - Strauss used only a few monochrome images, none of which are here on Commons; or it's a mistaken fork of "asana" and needs to be deleted.
Please could you stop populating this category; indeed, please could you stop working on Yoga and Asana categories, since it appears that you do not have sufficient knowledge of the area to do the task correctly. I'm sorry to say this but the evidence is there. You are a good and hardworking editor, and there are many other tasks which need your attention. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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Category:Light_on_Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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Milk-based drinks has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
JopkeB (talk) 10:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Hindu/Indian/Spiritual/Yoga chaos
Allforrous,
I've written to you before about your efforts in this area, but today I'd say you have really excelled yourself in the creation of multiple, overlapping, redundant, confusing, and unusable categories. The most I can say is that I assume you simply don't understand the area and are doing your best to be complete, but unfortunately the structures you are creating will be totally unworkable. It will not, for instance, be possible to demarcate "Indian spiritual teachers" from "Hindu spiritual teachers", while "Indian Hindu religious leaders" will overlap largely with both the other newly-erected categories, as all of them will be indistinguishably spiritual, Indian, and teachers. They'll all overlap to a large degree with "Gurus" and "Yogis" also. This is the opposite direction to that in which we should be proceeding. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:31, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Senseless reversion
Hi, I'd like to know why you reverted my edit on Dean Foods so "Yogurt companies" does not exist as a category. Fma12 (talk) 00:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Category:33rd-century BC art part of a series
When something is part of a series, there is zero point in deleting something due to it being empty. What are you achieving? — billinghurst sDrewth 01:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Categorias
Hola, qué tal, Vi que estuviste agregándole categorías a varios clubes Británico-Argentinos, como el Flores o Rosario A.C. Y antes de que reviertas (como has hecho antes) cualquier corrección que haga, te comento lo siguiente, y sin ánimo de polemizar o buscar controversia: no soy partidario de agregar "red links" porque generalmente terminan así, sin categorizarse; pero sobre todo, porque muchas veces se insertan links que ya existen, pero escritos de otra manera: por ej, en el caso del Atlético Rosario, sustituí el link rojo "Category:Cricket teams in Argentina" por "Category:Cricket teams of Argentina", que era el existente.
Otra categoría en rojo que eliminé fue "Argentine rugby union teams", ya que esa categoría ya existe, con el nombre Category:Rugby union teams of Argentina, conteniendo a "Category:Club Atlético del Rosario (rugby union)", ya que el club tiene dos subcategorías, una para rugby y otra para fútbol.
Por eso sostengo que conviene siempre verificar probando escribirlo de una u otra manera, hasta dar con la forma correcta, para evitar tener categorías vacías. Sé que puede resultar algo tedioso ir probando nombres, pero es la mejor manera de tener a los clubes ordenados de la manera usual aquí. Y evitar crear categorías incorrectas. Si puedo ser de ayuda, avisame. Cordial saludo.
PD: La categoría "Football clubs disaffiliated from the Argentine Football Association" (que ya existe en la wiki y seguramente la tomaste de ahí) me parece muy interesante para contener a clubes ya existentes (no extintos), que no participan en torneos de AFA, como Lomas o el mismo CASI. Fma12 (talk) 09:21, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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Constabulary in Northamptonshire has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
AAhelifan (talk) 09:05, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Category:The_Subtle_Body has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:43, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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The Path of Modern Yoga has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:26, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Old University of Leuven has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category. In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you! |
Mike Peel (talk) 12:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Unexplained category removal
I don't understand your removal of category that seems completely accurate eg [1]. Confused, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
![[1]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Uptown_Music_Exchange_and_Tacaux_Locaux,_Octavia_Street,_Uptown_New_Orleans.jpg&diff=607870096&oldid=574991564){kind=link}
- Please explain twice removing the "Shops in Uptown New Orleans" category from File:MagazineIgnatiusHoHoDec07.jpg. I tried to explain the relevance of the category when I reverted the first time you did it. Photo shows two adjacent businesses, a restaurant and a clothing shop. What is your objection to the shop being categorized as a shop in that place? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Similarly here Uptown Music Exchange. Photos can sometimes show more than one thing - and in some urban areas, it is not uncommon for different businesses to be adjacent to each other. -- 16:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello. Category:Restaurants in Uptown New Orleans is subcategory of Category:Shops in Uptown New Orleans. --Allforrous (talk) 16:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Sure. And you keep removing the category from images which show shops that are not restaurants. Have you looked at the photos before editing the categories? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:20, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Category:Restaurants in Uptown New Orleans is subcategory of Category:Restaurants in New Orleans. Too is OVERCAT. --Allforrous (talk) 16:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- I remove the overcategories. --Allforrous (talk) 16:25, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. You seem to misunderstand. NO, in NONE of those photos was "Shops in Uptown New Orleans" used redundantly to refer to a restaurant. In every single it example it referred to a SHOP that was NOT a restaurant. For example File:MagazineIgnatiusHoHoDec07.jpg (please look at the photo) you will see a building - the left half of which, with brown exterior paint and address of 4200, houses a restaurant; the right half of the building, with pink and green exterior paing and address 4204, houses a clothing shop. So the photo shows both a RESTAURANT AND a SHOP, (the shop is not a restaurant). Is that clear? Agreed so far? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:32, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- So when I take a photo of a building, half of which houses a clothing shop and half of which houses a restaurant, is your position that am I allowed to only include a category for one or the other of those business, but not both? If so, I disagree. If you wish, we can take this dispute to be seen by other Wikimedians rather than arguing with each other. I really want this to resolved. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Do you still disagree that when both a shop (that is not a restaurant) and a restaurant is shown in a photo, I am allowed to put in categories for both businesses? If so, I'd like to get other people's opinions rather than edit war with you. Shall we open discussion on Village Pump, or where do you think is good to open discussion? Thank you, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:07, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Esteemed Allforrous, I very much hope to read your response. I think I know how categories work on Commons, it seems you think I am wrong. I want to learn. If a photograph shows two different things, I thought it was ok to put categories for both of the two different things. Is this wrong? Can you please point to the rule I was breaking? This question troubles me. I do not wish to edit war with you. I hope I will hear from you sometime soon. Again, I suggest bringing the question to the Village Pump if we can not reach an understanding - if you suggest some other forum for discussion, that is ok by me too. Thank you for your work and attention. Eager for your reply, Sincerely, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 06:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Since you're not responding here, I've brought the issue up at Commons talk:Categories. Commons_talk:Categories#Photo shows two adjacent_but_different businesses. Any reason I can't add categories for_more than one of them? Perhaps we'll get feedback there. Thanks for your attention. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:32, 18 November 2021 (UTC)