Commons:Deletion requests/Template:OTRS model release

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Template:OTRS model release

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Undiscussed template far out of OTRS processes. No possible use case. Krd 08:50, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Out of scope of OTRS processes. --Mussklprozz (talk) 10:43, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete because I don't see any case of use. Doc Taxon (talk) 13:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For such "miscellaneous" stuff one can use Template:OTRS info (with which some OTRS agents are also not happy, I know), but this at least does not signal to the customer that OTRS would have a mandate to handle model contracts. However, a better strategy would be to reject model release cases anyway, since OTRS cannot handle them properly. --Reinhard Kraasch (talk) 15:10, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
{{OTRS model release}} is just a specialized {{OTRS info}} template so we can easily do that change, however I was just trying to better track such cases. I did not realize that this is a controversial issue, as for years we were saying that photographers need to have consent forms or permissions from the models for some types of images, but I guess it is not clear now what are they suppose to do with this paperwork. Storing them in OTRS seems like a logical place to put it, as it does not do us any good to keep it with the photographers as they might not be around 20 years from now when it is needed. Uploading it as a separate file also does not seem like a good option as some of the info might be private in nature. So I was not surprised that OTRS holds such forms, but I was surprised that they are not marked correctly. --Jarekt (talk) 16:34, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So the argument about "No possible use case" seems strange. --Jarekt (talk) 13:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment There is a big misunderstanding: These are just no model releases, just (completely superfluous) declarations of consent to be photographed for Wikipedia under a free license.
A template "OTRS model release" for these photos would be wrong and extremely dangerous.
In order to rule out something like this, this template should not even exist. --Stepro (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Stepro I do not see a difference between "model release" and "declarations of consent to be photographed". Shall we rename Template:OTRS model release to Template:OTRS consent so we can track cases where a consent, which is required per our policy is stored in OTRS system?--Jarekt (talk) 15:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No. There is a big difference.
-> "consent to be photographed": The person is OK with to be pictured. No permission by this person to use the photo for e.g. advertising.
-> "model release": The person agrees that the photo can be used commercial, e.g. for advertising.
To mix this is dangerous. --Stepro (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Stepro I guess there is a misunderstanding, by "model release" I understand the term as it is used in model release article: "A model release, known in similar contexts as a liability waiver, is a legal release typically signed by the subject of a photograph granting permission to publish the photograph in one form or another." Such consent just allows photographs to be taken and published, and than spells out the rules and restrictions on the form of publication and weather that includes a right to use the photo in advertising or in other commercial endeavors. I looked at other articles in model release (Q479251) and as far as I can see none of them imply that "model release" mean that photo can be used in advertising. I like term "model release" because its meaning is exactly spelled out in several languages. I think that consent forms in Landtagsprojekt collections included signed permissions to be photographed and that the photo can be published under CC license on Commons. That is exactly that "model release" suppose to do. --Jarekt (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jarekt: That is (at least for Germany) wrong. A model release is typically signed by a (paid) photo model only, never by politicians, artists, etc. The model release is much broader in aspects of usage of the taken photos than any consent to be photographed. Raymond 20:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete per User:DabB.: The template could encourage people to send more personal and data-sensitive documents to the OTRS, while we need less of them. Raymond 20:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per consensus (I replaced the template with {{OTRS info}} ). --Jarekt (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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