Commons:Deletion requests/Films by Yasujirō Ozu
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Films by Yasujirō Ozu
[edit]- File:I Was Born, But... (1932) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:A Story of Floating Weeds (1934) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:The Only Son (1936) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:What Did the Lady Forget (1937) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:The Brothers and Sisters of the Toda Family (1941) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:There Was a Father (1942) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
- File:Late Spring (1949) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm
These are films directed by Yasujirō Ozu (1903–1963), released between 1932 and 1949. They are tagged with {{PD-Japan-film}}, which correctly states that their copyright in Japan expired 50 years after publication.
However, they would remain under copyright in the United States. As mentioned in the license tag and COM:JAPAN, a separate law kept films under copyright in Japan for 38 years after the director's death. This means that on the URAA restoration date (1996), all of these films were still under copyright in Japan, and so their U.S. copyright would remain in effect for 95 years after publication. --hinnk (talk) 00:46, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep They may have been published in USA at the time, and URAA can't be the sole reason for deletion. Yann (talk) 13:03, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Further why did you only nominate my films, and not all the related pictures? Yann (talk) 13:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I nominated all the videos in the category but didn't touch the images. There are a lot of images in Category:Films by Yasujiro Ozu, and I think {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} may apply to some of them—if some images are actually promotional stills published separately, or if the cinematographer/photographer's lifetime instead of the director's would be used to the determine the expiration. I'm not as familiar with how to evaluate that for photographs, so I wouldn't want to include dozens of files that might need to be evaluated differently.
- Regarding U.S. publication, Ozu's films were famously unreleased outside Japan until the late 1950s, with U.S. releases of his earlier work coming decades after their original publication (Mindy Aloff did a nice piece about this in The New York Times).
- Maybe I'm misinterpreting {{Not-PD-US-URAA}}, but its page indicates that URAA-affected images uploaded after 2012 "should be treated as other violations of the Commons:Licensing policy are." Is there something in there I'm not understanding correctly? hinnk (talk) 21:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete the following files:
- File:A Story of Floating Weeds (1934) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm as there is a record of its URAA restoration [1].
- File:The Only Son (1936) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm as there is a record of its URAA restoration [2].
- File:The Brothers and Sisters of the Toda Family (1941) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm as there is a record of its URAA restoration [3].
- File:There Was a Father (1942) by Yasujirō Ozu.webm as there is a record of its URAA restoration [4]
- Note that the actual policy is «A mere allegation that the URAA applies to a file cannot be the sole reason for deletion». Records in the US Copyright Office are not allegations. Günther Frager (talk) 02:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I deleted these files. Yann (talk) 08:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Deleted: URAA applies. --Abzeronow (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)