Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Sintegrity

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Files uploaded by Sintegrity (talk · contribs)

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Speedy requests converted to DR: Too old for G7, but no objection to courtesy deletion.

1st deletion request

—‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Fairly prompt uploader request. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Sintegrity (talk · contribs)

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Speed deletion requested by the uploader. Licenses issue. I thought the Flickr profile was good, but after the upload I realized it's all a license washing case.

2nd deletion request

Sintegrity (talk) 22:48, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep I don't see any indication of license landuring. MTur Destinos seems to be a reliable Flickr user. --A1Cafel (talk) 12:07, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't check all, but at least for most of the "Flavioandre..." and "Flavio Andre...", Metadata says Com autorização de uso pelo criador ao MTUr e associados descritos na autorização. This at least seems incompatible with the license MTur provided to Flickr. -- Gauss (talk) 01:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Files are from the official Flickr account of MTur, which seems to have an agreement with the creators. I don't know what means the information on the exif of the files by Flavio Andre, it could well mean that he authorized MTur to use them as they please, including relicensing - that would be on the contract they signed or otherwise agreed with MTur. In any case, that's MTur responsibility. -- Darwin Ahoy! 22:26, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. there is no evidence whatsoever that the flickr uploader had permission to publish these files of these different photographers. --Ellywa (talk) 17:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ellywa: Why have you reverted the decision of closed DR and deleted dozens of files without any discussion?! -- Darwin Ahoy! 00:02, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restored files deleted by mistake, see Special:Diff/926142501/937759273 and {{Flickrstream MTur Destinos}}.-- Darwin Ahoy! 02:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Files uploaded by Sintegrity (talk · contribs)

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Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Angola the copyright term in Angola is either Life + 45 years after the photographers death or + 70 years after the date of publication in cases of anonymous photographs. In the case of these images specifically, although they were uploaded to Flickr under a CC BY-SA 2.0 license they were taken by an unknown photographer and there's zero evidence that the uploader owns the copyright to them or can release them in the public domain. So the images should be deleted until at least 2085 per the normal term for anonymous works in Angola since they appear to have been taken in 2014. If not until an undetermined date to the unclear years of creation.

3rd deletion request – part I

Adamant1 (talk) 14:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Ellywa (talk) 16:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Sintegrity (talk · contribs)

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Per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Angola the normal term for photographs is life + 45 years after the photographers death. Although these photographs were uploaded to Flickr under a CC BY-SA 2.0 license there's zero evidence the uploader is the original photographer, that they own the copyright to said images, or that the person who took them has been dead for more then 45 years. So the images should be deleted until an undetermined date unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary.

3rd deletion request – part II

Adamant1 (talk) 14:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination, permission would be required from Jessica Wadsworth. --Ellywa (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Files uploaded by Sintegrity (talk · contribs)

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As Adamant1 alerted me: these photo may not be had taken by the Flickr user.

3rd deletion request – part III

Sintegrity (talk) 14:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RodRabelo7: I think you added the comment to the wrong DR since most, if not all, of these images are from the account of someone named PaulBlake1957, who clearly uploads "found photographs" that they didn't take themselves. Regardless, to answer your question, no one said it isn't the official Flickr Account of SIM USA. I certainly didn't. The question here is if SIM USA owns the copyright to the images uploaded to their Flickr account or not, and I'm of the opinion that they don't. Especially since of their admittance the photographs are either taken by an unknown photographer or a missionary named Jessica Wadsworth. They clearly aren't Jessica Wadsworth and there's a difference between them having photographs taken by her versus owning the copyright to said photographs. Otherwise we would need evidence of the later, which I don't see us having. Otherwise be my guest and provide some. Just playing devils advocate doesn't cut it though. Especially with the photographs from PaulBlake1957's account. Since again, they clearly upload found photographs that they haven't taken themselves and therefore don't own the copyright to. --Adamant1 (talk) 09:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SIM USA is a missionary work organization. It is more than reasonable that they have permission to upload photographs from their missionaries. Your opinion, if not corroborated by facts, is needless and disposable. Otherwise you’d need evidence of the later, which I don’t see us having – have you tried contacting them instead of letting yourself get carried away by your usual deletionist instincts? Don’t worry, I have already done so on their website and soon we will have a response.
In regards to PaulBlake1957’s uploaded photographs, please mark them as such, because I am not going to check all of nominated photographs, one by one, since you have mixed photographs from two different account, one of them being totally legitimate. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Adamant1 (pinging). By the way, does someone oppose removing all the needless almost 400,000 bytes from previous nominations? I can barely edit here. RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RodRabelo7: As far as I know all the images that I nominated for deletion in the original request are from SIMUSA. Sintegrity then nominated the other images for deletion in separate DRs. Including this one. So I'm not really sure what your talking about or how it's my problem. The same goes for your insult about my "usual deletionist instincts" or whatever. Since again, I didn't start this DR, Sintegrity did of their own accord after messaging me on my talk page about it and I'm obviously not responsible for their actions. You might not know this for whatever reason, but it's possible to create and vote on separate DRs started by different people having to do with the same uploader.
More to the point, it might be "reasonable" that they have permission to upload photographs from their missionaries, and I disagree that it is, but that doesn't mean they have the permission. Or again, be my guest and provide evidence that they do. I find it hard to believe they would own the copyright to photographs they themselves say are by unknown photographers, that were taken at unknown dates, and are of unknown people. It would be pretty trivial for them to posses random photographs people took while doing missionary work under their remit. Again though, that doesn't mean they would own the copyright to said images. Although I'm more then willing to put my DR on hold for now while we wait to hear back from them about it. But there's no reason not to delete the other images nominated by Sintegrity in the meantime. Especially since they are requesting it themselves. --Adamant1 (talk) 10:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This DR page is a mess. Consider writing notes on the side of the file names. Which photographs are credit to unknown photographers? Which were uploaded by Paul Blake? RodRabelo7 (talk) 10:55, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, it's multiple DRs. The photographs in this one are from to PaulBlake1957's Flickr account and are probably "found photographs" by other people. The ones in the original DR are from SIMUSA and were again taken by unknown photographers. Essentially every image not specifically credited to Jessica Wadsworth in the file name is by an unknown person. It doesn't help that you needlessly collapsed everything though. To the point that it's a mess that's only because you turned it into one. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment In regards to this last DR, opened by Sintegrity, it should be noted that Paul Blake apparently uploads photographs taken by his parents, by himself, and by others, some of the latter likely being already in the public domain while others maybe not. I’d suggest closing this DR because we are not going anywhere with that many files to assess. RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or we could just delete the images since the uploader requested it within the 7 day curtesy window and there's no way to determine which were taken by whom or are in the public domain anyway. We usually respect deletion requests by the uploader within 7 days of them uploading the images anyway though. Otherwise it's just wasting everyone's time nominating the images in smaller batches when they are probably just going to be deleted anyway. --Adamant1 (talk) 11:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sintegrity nominated them to deletion not because she wanted to remove them from their upload history, but rather because she thought there were copyright issues to them. Anyway, she could simply add {{SD|G7}} to the files. Let’s see what she thinks. RodRabelo7 (talk) 12:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, @RodRabelo7 and @Adamant1. Sorry for all this work and worry besause of a batch. I think these images are important to ilustrate not only the missionary mission, but also (and more important) people from that region of Angola. But if they are not appropriated within the PD rules, I guess we should delete them. Just let me know what I should do. Sintegrity (talk) 16:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RodRabelo7 can try and make an issue out of it, but at least with this DR the images clearly have copyright issues since of their own admission PaulBlake1957 uploads found photographs to their Flickr account sometimes and it's clear which ones he took or not. The other DRs aren't any better either and RodRabelo7's provided absolutely nothing to contradict that. So the DR should just stay open until a administrator deals with them and hopefully deletes the images. There's no reason to not delete the photographs though. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. Per this declaration: https://www.flickr.com/photos/oldangolaphotos/29626779256/ the uploader to flickr made scans of old photos. He clearly does not own the copyright, perhaps of photos made by his parents, but it is totally unclear who the photographers might be. Therefore the files must be deleted from Commons. --Ellywa (talk) 16:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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