Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Scribley
Nominated by A1Cafel with rationale "Facebook image per Metadata, permission is required".
Housekeeping. @A1Cafel: you know how VFC works. Show it.
- File:Bishop's throne, 1150-1200, marble, France (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Daniel the Prophet, c. 1325, Ugolino di Nerio, pinnacle from an altarpiece, tempera and tooled gold on panel (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Partial solar eclipse (2017).jpg
- File:Presentation of Christ in the Temple, Benozzo Gozzoli, 1460-1461 (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Honorius III approving the Rule of St. Francis, Bartolome del Castro, c. 1500 (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Mass of St. Gregory, c. 1490, attributed to Diego de la Cruz, oil and gold on panel (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Apostle Peter Released from Prison, Jacopo di Cione, 1370-1371 (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Cloth of St. Veronica, Bernardino Zaganelli, c. 1500, oil on panel, Philadelphia Museum of Art.jpg
- File:Salvator Mundi, c. 1500, Gerard David, Philadelphia Museum of Art.jpg
- File:Dead Christ Supported by Two Angels c. 1472.jpg
- File:Medieval Portrait of Scipio Africanus (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg
- File:Cathedra, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Window, Gregory the Great, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Crucifixion, Rood Screen, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:High Altar and Reredos, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Lady Chapel, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Detail of Reredos, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Augusta French Memorial, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:St. Fiacre Window, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Baptismal Font Cover, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Columbarium and Funerary Chapel, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- File:Chancel ceiling, Church of the Good Shepherd.jpg
- Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:17, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Comments from Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bishop's throne, 1150-1200, marble, France (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg:
- You have nominated numerous photographs that I have posted for deletion. These are photographs of artwork from the Philadelphia Museum of Art (they are medieval works, and are not themselves under copyright); others are features of my place of worship, Church of the Good Shepherd (Rosemont, Pennsylvania). As to the Philadelphia Museum, I have inquired whether it is permissible from the Museum's view that these be posted on Wikipedia. As to the Church, I am at a loss as to what you consider to be necessary. Each of the photographs both from the Museum and the Church were taken personally by me with my cell phone, and then uploaded from my phone to my facebook page, and thence to Wikipedia. I have more than 1,000 revisions or other entries of various kinds on Wikipedia and have never before had images nominated for deletion. I should mention that I have been a lawyer in the US for many years and are very sensitive to copyright issues. If I truly have misunderstood the license system required by Wikipedia, then I wish to get it right. Thanks. Scribley (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The author has photographed a public domain object / art work. --Commons2020 (talk) 09:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Nothing about Facebook in Metadata. 2D out of copyright image (with incidental 3D frame). What are all these dodgy noms about??? Why is this not properly categorized???? Johnbod (talk) 09:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This work clearly appears to be public domain, at least in the US. Is there a specific policy on the Commons that requires permission? Should this image be instead hosted on the English Wikipedia?Zfish118 (talk) 17:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Zfish118. Scribley (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep On what grounds? This is well out of copyright. Johnbod (talk) 08:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Comments from Commons:Deletion requests/File:Apostle Peter Released from Prison, Jacopo di Cione, 1370-1371 (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg:
- Keep. This is an out of copyright image. I can't see the reference to FB in the metadata but it is irrelevant anyway. StAnselm (talk) 14:59, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks StAnselm. Scribley (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Comments from Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cloth of St. Veronica, Bernardino Zaganelli, c. 1500, oil on panel, Philadelphia Museum of Art.jpg:
- From the comment above, "Facebook image per Metadata", it looks like some automated tool detected that you had copied the images from Facebook to here. The tool doesn't have any way to know that you copied the picture from your own facebook page, since it can't verify which facebook page is yours. A1Cafel therefore presumed that you had copied the image from Facebook without permission. In the future, I recommend uploading images to Wikipedia directly rather than transferring them from Facebook.
- Additionally, the image's license tags weren't right. This image isn't your "own work". Rather, the image is in the public domain because it is a faithful photographic representation of a two-dimensional work of art that is itself in the public domain. (In the US you can't create a copyrightable image by faithfully reproducing a public-domain two-dimensional work.) I added the {{PD-Art|PD-US-expired}} tag to the image page to reflect this.--Srleffler (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose deletion. The poster has addressed the nominator's concern. Also, the nominator missed the fact that the image is in the public domain. I added the {{PD-Art|PD-US-expired}} tag to the image page to reflect this. --Srleffler (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Srleffler. I appreciate your explanations and in future will: (a) avoid uploading via Facebook, and (b) use the appropriate tags for such images. Scribley (talk)
Comments from Commons:Deletion requests/File:Medieval Portrait of Scipio Africanus (Philadelphia Museum of Art).jpg:
- Keep Nothing about Facebook in Metadata. Johnbod (talk) 09:01, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Johnbod. Scribley (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
THIS IMAGE IS NOT FROM THE MUSEUM WEBSITE. I TOOK IT MYSELF AT THE MUSEUM ON MY CELL PHONE. Scribley (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep It shouldn't be in copyright no. --Commons2020 (talk) 09:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks Commons2020. Scribley (talk) 01:50, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
New comments:
- Keep I believe the uploader. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:32, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks Alexis. Scribley (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Scribley, I'm not sure this in the right place to ask, but could you please upload higher-res versions of the Art Museum images, at least the ones already in articles, directly from your original phone images? They would be much more useful to readers who click on images for details. Also, what was the museum's reponse when you asked about uploading the images to Wikipedia? Thanks, Brian W. Schaller (talk) 10:12, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Brian W. Schaller: doesn't really matter what the museum thinks.. worst case they could ban photographers from their museum, but any photos taken are legal. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 10:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Brian, I will upload better-quality images directly from my phone as possible. My present phone isn't high-end, but I am about to upgrade so this should not be a problem in the future. I haven't heard back from the museum in Philly but as Alexis says they can`t prohibit this sort of thing. Scribley (talk) 13:21, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep all the museum images per above. However, File:Partial solar eclipse (2017).jpg needs further permission, or it may be deleted. --182.239.122.104 17:25, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
I took the partial solar eclipse photo on my cell phone standing in front of my house on the relevant day in 2017. I did, unfortunately, upload it to wiki via my facebook page. The photo is no longer on my phone. What evidence is needed to keep it from being deleted? Thanks. Scribley (talk) 19:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- You can either
- Send a permission email to COM:OTRS, or
- Give the facebook link
- This can help resolve the possible copyright issue. --182.239.122.104 04:50, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- There is an OTRS email received for “File:Partial solar eclipse (2017).jpg” but not processed yet, ticket:2020011810000328. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 07:48, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
- I have accepted permission for “File:Partial solar eclipse (2017).jpg” under Ticket:2020011810000328. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, PL, GSW-FR(ALS). 23:51, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion; see w:en:WP:TRAINWRECK. (non-admin closure) --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:28, 12 June 2020 (UTC)