Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by 2005biggar

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Files uploaded by 2005biggar (talk · contribs)

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The claims by 2005biggar that these photos are their own work do not appear to be trustworthy. Several images were directly lifted from [ http://www.andes.org.uk/] (see File:El Ermitaño summit.jpg, File:El-toro.jpg, File:Bolivar-from-colon.jpg, and File:Cerro Olivares from the north.jpg). This DR collects all uploads by 2005biggar which I did not find immediately on the web. The EXIF data vary widely. The cameras named in the EXIF data include Panasonic DMC-TZ70, Canon PowerShot A1300, and FinePix S9600. Some have no EXIF data.

AFBorchert (talk) 15:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Based on their edit history on enwiki, it seems like 2005biggar is John Biggar, apparently the owner of [ http://www.andes.org.uk/]. The EXIF thing is worrisome. I've asked them on their enwiki talk page to comment on where their files come from. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:39, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked 2005biggar to contact our support team. --AFBorchert (talk) 18:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They have said on enwiki that they have used several cameras over the years, but also that some of the photos were made by others with their camera(s). I've asked for a list of all these third-party photos, as their licencing is questionable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:41, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ticket 2020062210007108 is related to this case. --AFBorchert (talk) 15:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm getting pretty frustrated with this issue. I got an email from Valeria Domínguez requesting "original" versions of photos but I am not entirely sure what that means, especially, since as I've said a couple of times, some of these photos are old enough to have been taken on a film camera (e.g. in this thread Solo, Ramada, Mesa, Bonete, Sierra Nevada were all taken on non-digital cameras between 1997 and 2004). In any case when I tried to reply to the email from Valeria Domínguez with photos attached it just got bounced back to me. If you need confirmation that I own and run www.andes.org.uk I can put a message on any page on that website for yourselves. If you don't want experts (in their field) to contribute to Wikipedia I can go elsewhere, I've certainly given up for now.2005biggar (talk) 14:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)2005biggar[reply]
    @2005biggar: It doesn't sound like that email from Valeria Domínguez has anything to do with Wikimedia. That said, it looks like most of the problem here is resolved (apart from the identification of the photos that were made by someone else). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jo-Jo Eumerus: That sounds a bit more positive. I reviewed all the photos I've uploaded in the last few days and all were taken by me on my cameras with one exception, a photo of Yayamari from the east that was taken by me on my wifes camera (I'd borrowed it, an Olympus Mu, for that expedition in 2006 when I only had a heavy film SLR myself). I have checked as many older uploads as I can remember, but basically I'm fully aware of copyright issues.2005biggar (talk) 18:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's kind of a shame that AFBorchert has removed some of my work from the last few days and stated that I have "a history of uploading copyvios" just because I have used 4 different cameras in the last 20 years. The file he refers to in that history
    Pucahuirca from Alpamayo
    is also one of my photos. That statement about copyvios is basically slanderous and he should apologise and re-instate my work. In the meantime he has put me off contributing or donating any more to Wikipedia for the time being.2005biggar (talk) 18:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi 2005biggar, I did not remove any of your work – I just filed deletion requests. I understand your frustration but please understand that we have to delete thousands of copyvios per day. At the beginning I noticed your upload of File:El-toro.jpg because a file under this name was uploaded and deleted before at Commons. This popped up on my watchlist and I moved on to a routine check and I found that photo immediately at [4] where it is not released under a free license. Hence, I filed it for speedy deletion and went through your other uploads which come from different cameras – which is very suspicious. Next I checked your contributions at en:wp and noticed that multiple of your uploads were deleted before you started at Commons. There is a simple rule at Commons: Whenever you upload something which has been published before, you need to process it through our support team (you are doing it right now) or you should release the photos at the original site under a free license. We do this to protect the copyright of the photographers and to protect reusers of our media archive. This approach hits occasionally users who are actually uploading their own works. On base of the informations provided by you to us and thanks to the photo of the slide I believe you. Please take my apologies that I characterized your claims as not trustworthy. I have no doubt that all photos will be restored as soon as this is resolved. I recommend to reply to the support team with a pointer to your recent upload of the slide. Thanks for your patience and we appreciate your contributions. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 21:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS agent (verify): we've received Ticket:2020062210007108 from an official email account of andes.org.uk regarding File:Colon-glacier-climb.jpg

I'm favorable to accept it unless someone has an argument against it. Please let me know. Regards. --Ganímedes (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2005biggar: OTRS always request the original file to check EXIF if there are some doubts about authorship. Of course, that's not possible in case of old cameras, but to know that you must tell it before. I have no clue how old the files were or any of the problems here since you write saying "the photos are mine" and not include a link to this discussion, to the discussion in enWP or even the name of the files. Commons it's an independent project. We've received dozens (at least) of emails daily. With over 60 millions of files in Commons, it's impossible to guess or to assist you in the right manner without a calm and proper explanation of the problems. I understand you feel frustrated, but please understand we can't guess. We do the best we can with the little information we have. Sorry about the inconvenience. Regards. --Ganímedes (talk) 13:52, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, the reason to use OTRS it's to preserve the identity and the privacy of all the person involved. It's not right to name someone from OTRS, especially by name and surname.
@AFBorchert, @Jo-Jo Eumerus, do you have some objection to proceed? --Ganímedes (talk) 21:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Ganímedes: I have no objections. In my opinion it would be justified to accept this and to restore the speedily deleted files (named above). --AFBorchert (talk) 06:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's reasonable to keep/undelete all the files discussed here that 2005biggar did not identify as "not their own work". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The ticket doesn't include the deleted files, so I can't proceed in that way, but I can accept the listed in the ticket, as I mention in my previous comments. So I will. --Ganímedes (talk) 12:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If there is anything else you need, please let me know. Regards. --Ganímedes (talk) 12:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, we've received permission for these files. I can't grant permission for files not included in the ticket. Regards. --Ganímedes (talk) 20:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: files with OTRS permission, deleted two without. --ƏXPLICIT 08:37, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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