Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Museum figures in Slovenia

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Files in Category:Museum figures in Slovenia

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Modern sculptures. No rationale why these figures would be in the public domain.

Eleassar (t/p) 09:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Those fugures are dummies, not sculptures, and does not have artistic value. --Janezdrilc (talk) 11:09, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever, they can be dummies if you wish (I didn't remember the exact term). The artistic value does not determine the copyrights. What is important is that they are a result of creative work. --Eleassar (t/p) 11:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep - these are made to show the clothing at the time, not as sculptures. --Sporti (talk) 11:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, but their faces are quite original, which means they do surpass the minimum threshold necessary for a work to be copyrightable. --Eleassar (t/p) 12:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can't fint anything about these "sculptures" of dummies that would sugest this is artistic rather that what is typicaly used - someones face print. --Sporti (talk) 13:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it could be a face print or it could be not. Besides, prints and models are also copyrightable (see [1]). --Eleassar (t/p) 13:24, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If the objection is just the faces can't these be blanked out to leave the costumes? Railwayfan2005 (talk) 21:30, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I'm concerned, this would be acceptable. --Eleassar (t/p) 21:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: No copyright on clothing. Yann (talk) 08:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Museum figures in Slovenia

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Reopening this request just a few hours later, because the administrator focused in the concluding remark on an issue that was not problematic at all and did not provide a sensible response when asked to explain the closure. I've had this reviewed by another administrator [2], who agrees with my comments about the faces being copyrighted (as well as hands), so I'd like to have someone more experienced than User:Yann review this.

Eleassar (t/p) 12:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to what has been said in the first DR discussion, IMO all or most of the faces, which seem to be your concern, would go by de minimis, as it is rather clear that the focus of these images is the clothing and the overall setting. --Túrelio (talk) 14:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Even if there's no (c) on dummies some of these pictures are too blurry to be kept. Remember that : pics may be used by anyone in any work.
These two ones can be deleted : File:Graščak1.JPG and File:Kolovrat1.JPG because they can't be used in a paper book, except as an example of a bad image that should not be done ...
--Llann .\m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 19:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep on File:Ljubljana 013.JPG, File:Ljubljana 014.JPG, since the body is an undetailed piece that just holds the clothing. It may in theory be copyrightable in and of itself, but here it's de minimis.  Delete the rest aa sculptures in dioramas. I'm not sure whether or not the settings themselves are free; the US law says:
“Pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works” include two-dimensional and three-dimensional works of fine, graphic, and applied art, photographs, prints and art reproductions, maps, globes, charts, diagrams, models, and technical drawings, including architectural plans. Such works shall include works of artistic craftsmanship insofar as their form but not their mechanical or utilitarian aspects are concerned; the design of a useful article, as defined in this section, shall be considered a pictorial, graphic, or sculptural work only if, and only to the extent that, such design incorporates pictorial, graphic, or sculptural features that can be identified separately from, and are capable of existing independently of, the utilitarian aspects of the article.
Are the dioramas not 3-dimensional works of applied art? In any case, the sculptures themselves are copyrightable works, and in all other cases we have something that's way more then just clothing.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep per last DR and related AN/U discussion. Fry1989 eh? 19:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: Because nothing substantive has changed since the last decision. Simply immediately re-opening discussions because you don't like the result is not something that's accepted on this project. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:35, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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