Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Murals in Pittsburgh
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Files in Category:Murals in Pittsburgh
[edit]There is no freedom of panorama for murals in the United States. Based these murals were all painted on or after 1978 and are still copyrighted works per Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US. See below for verification of dates for each mural.
- File:20060901 12 Carson St., Pittsburgh (15934483592).jpg
- File:2008-05-25 Pittsburgh 117 Penn St (2671365145).jpg
- File:Ellsworth Avenue 2.jpg
- File:Ellsworth Avenue.jpg
- File:Fortieth St Bridge mural.jpg
- File:Pghglasscenter.jpg
- File:Pittsburgh (5833610188).jpg
- File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg
- File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482589383).jpg
- File:Reaching Out (819200141).jpg
- File:Strip District mural, Pittsburgh.jpg
- File:TheStrip 02 (4260424793).jpg
- File:WienerWorldPittsburgh.jpg
List of images with dates and sourcing for date:
- File:20060901 12 Carson St., Pittsburgh (15934483592).jpg - "East Carson Street Treasures" (2006)
- File:Pittsburgh (5833610188).jpg - same mural as above
- File:2008-05-25 Pittsburgh 117 Penn St (2671365145).jpg - "Welcome to the Strip" (2004)
- File:TheStrip 02 (4260424793).jpg - same mural as above
- File:Ellsworth Avenue 2.jpg - Remembering Margo Lovelace (2013) - spreadsheet found from here
- File:Ellsworth Avenue.jpg - same mural as above
- File:Fortieth St Bridge mural.jpg - Different Eyes 2012 - no earlier than 2001 which is when the Pittsburgh Glass Center opened
- File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg - see p.8 "Two Andys 2005"
- File:WienerWorldPittsburgh.jpg - same mural as above
- File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482589383).jpg - see p.19 "Yesterday's Tomorrow 2006"
- File:Reaching Out (819200141).jpg - "All in a Day (2004)"
- File:Strip District mural, Pittsburgh.jpg - "The Strip Mural" (2010)
Whpq (talk) 02:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and COM:FOP US. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and COM:CB#Murals. There's no freedom of panorama in the US for publically displayed 2D works of art per COM:FOP United States which means that the COM:CONSENT of the artists who painted all of these would be needed for them to be kept. The only possible ones for which COM:DM might be arguable would be File:WienerWorldPittsburgh.jpg and File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg, but that would be quite a stretch since the focus seems to be more on the mural than on en:S.W. Randall Toyes and Giftes or the Weiner World stores shown in the photos. If that's not the case and the intended focus is the stores, the mural could be blurred out I guess if taking a replacement photo of either strorefront is no longer possible. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Slightly amending my above comment to Keep for File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg based on the comments made below. Even if the mural in this photo isn't deemed to be a case of de minimis, the mural could be blurred out allowing the photo to be kept regardless. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg as the mural is very small and it is used in an article unrelated to the mural; it is impossible to get the entire right facade of S.W. Randall without also including the mural (COM:DM #4). Neutral on File:WienerWorldPittsburgh.jpg; probably best to crop it down so that it is primarily depicting Wiener World. Delete the rest. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- It's a bit hard to tell from the Commons photo, but I don't think the mural is on the right facade of S.W. Randall. I believe that there's another store located in between Wiener World and S.W. Randall based on this photo of the S.W. Randall storefront. Maybe the thing to do with that photo would to simply blur out the mural. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:59, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's not. But there's no effective angle to capture the S.W. Randall right facade without including the mural; if you stand facing Villa Reale (the building with the mural), the S.W. Randall running down the right side will be at such an angle that it can hardly be read. I don't see the need for blurring out anything when we don't blur out the Louvre Pyramid for pictures of the courtyard. If it is DM, then no blurring is necessary. Blurring/cropping is only for cases where the copyrighted work is not DM and the image is nonetheless useful for some purpose besides depicting the copyrighted work. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:14, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- Fair point about the bluring. It seems then that particular file should be kept regardless. If it's a case of DM, then it can be kept as is; if it's not, then it can still probably be kept with the mural blurred out. The only reason for deleting it would be if it were out of scope or if the photo was a copyvio, and neither of those things seem applicable here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:44, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's not. But there's no effective angle to capture the S.W. Randall right facade without including the mural; if you stand facing Villa Reale (the building with the mural), the S.W. Randall running down the right side will be at such an angle that it can hardly be read. I don't see the need for blurring out anything when we don't blur out the Louvre Pyramid for pictures of the courtyard. If it is DM, then no blurring is necessary. Blurring/cropping is only for cases where the copyrighted work is not DM and the image is nonetheless useful for some purpose besides depicting the copyrighted work. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:14, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- It's a bit hard to tell from the Commons photo, but I don't think the mural is on the right facade of S.W. Randall. I believe that there's another store located in between Wiener World and S.W. Randall based on this photo of the S.W. Randall storefront. Maybe the thing to do with that photo would to simply blur out the mural. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:59, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agree on all counts with King of Hearts. Keep File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg, very borderline on File:WienerWorldPittsburgh.jpg, Delete the rest. Carl Lindberg (talk) 03:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep File:Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (8482587541).jpg as the main focus of the image is the store. Delete all others. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 00:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)