Commons:Administrators/Requests/Mhhossein

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 Support = 11;  Oppose = 1;  Neutral = 0 - 91% Result: Successful. --Krd 13:23, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mhhossein

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Scheduled to end: 12:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I'd like to apply here for Mhhossein to the status of administrator. I often crossed this user in tasks related to maintenance, and I'm sure that he would be a good addition to our team. With the huge backlogs that we have in deletion requests a goodwill more, is welcome. The user, is an OTRS member, has Licence Review rights, is experimented in Wikimedia Commons, is active, and has a sufficient knowledge in copyright relative topics to provide meaningful help. He is able to contribute in several languages, and is always correct and polite. I am happy to nominate him and support this nomination. Christian Ferrer (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Christian Ferrer for the RFA and for the nice words. --Mhhossein talk 12:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 Comment Stefka Bulgaria had only 45 previous edits on this project before the above vote.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
included a significant number of uploads that I previously speedy deleted, therefore the number of alive contributions is much more low. The user have passed more time to search and report here Wikipedia links (whose relevance is questionable, though I let to others to think what they want) about Mhhossein than to edit Wikimedia Commons, the goal is unclear and the way doubtful. In my opinion Christian Ferrer (talk) 12:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Right, only 13 are still alive.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:38, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There is significant chances that it's importing a cross wiki disagreement [1] and here Commons:Deletion requests/File:Non-Iranian rent-a-crowd black people in PMOI rally.jpg. Christian Ferrer (talk) 12:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

99of9: Hi. This is my first upload belonging to 4 years ago. I took the photograph and removed the details on the cover and added mine, so that I thought it was below COM:TOO. So, it's a derivative which I think is below TOO. Regards. --Mhhossein talk 13:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question Briefly looking at your contribution stats, they seem low for a Commons administrator. In the 4 years of your account, you have uploaded 43 images, though the number of original uploads is less as several are overwrites. What are your thoughts on the logically best route of improving OTRS to accept and push for more Commons Administrators to become OTRS volunteers? Secondly, are we building up community issues by accepting far less experienced OTRS volunteers as Commons Administrators, pretty much because they are OTRS volunteers who are interested in the Commons permissions queue and might find it convenient to have Commons sysop rights, rather than consulting with current Commons administrators, and who will be expected to advise on Commons policies, more abstruse areas of copyright compliance, and provide pragmatic support to correspondents to OTRS on how to get things done on Commons such as undeletion of files without having the same level of experience? --Fæ (talk) 14:29, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Fæ: Well, I thought there would not be any minimum number of edits as a requirement for the future admins, though I admit that I had uploaded few files during these years. Needless to say that regardless of the outcome of this discussion, I'll be keeping up with the maintenance acts as before and I'm not going to increase the number of my uploads only for the sake of increasing the contribution stats. Though I'll upload works which I deem are useful for the project, just as I did before.
An OTRS agent with access to the permission queue is mostly expected to recognize licenses suitable for the Commons, while an admin's duties are far more different and heavier than an OTRS agent. As for the first question, although I believe an OTRS agent does not necessarily need to be a well experienced admin, I agree that having admins as OTRS agents is an ideal situation, for plenty of reasons among them their experience and their access to the deleted files. But if you're asking about how to approach this ideal situation, unfortunately I have no special idea in mind at the moment. Moreover, considering the amount of the incoming emails to the queues, I don't think restricting the access to the OTRS interface be a good idea. So, just be careful when you select the agents and provide the situation for them to get consults when needed. In response to your second question, if I've understood it correctly; yes it makes issues because, as I said, admin tasks are much broader than what an OTRS agent is expected to do. However, while it's not a good idea to accept an admin only because he's an OTRS agent, an experienced OTRS agent who have dealt with various copyright situations can probably make a good sysop. --Mhhossein talk 17:52, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Up to my experience far more than half of the open OTRS tickets can be processed without being technically an admin anywhere. --Krd 17:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
With a pure statistical view, reviewing OTRS correspondence and adding tickets to images is a tiny backlog compared to handling copyvios, closing deletion requests and responding to undeletion requests. The statistics also indicate the reason the OTRS backlog has increased over the last few years is a lack of OTRS volunteers who are Commons contributors having access to the Commons queue, not because OTRS volunteers are not administrators.
"An experienced OTRS agent who have dealt with various copyright situations can probably make a good sysop", maybe, but RFA is not conditional and despite many community discussions around breaking up sysop rights, the community has always preferred to keep the role of administrator a fully rounded one, intended to be a trusted user that meets our understanding of Administrators. As your nomination is on the basis of "a good addition to our team", this is the nature of your commitment being considered by the community. --Fæ (talk) 18:34, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, just this one. --Mhhossein talk 19:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for letting me know. The original uploader in that example is 'User:Micheletb', whom 'User:Wargaz' had to consult before overwriting the existing file. I'm addressing the case on the file talk page. --Mhhossein talk 05:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mhhossein already produces more problems than solves. First, he renamed File:主-bronze.svg (hist • logs • abuse log) by misuse of the Criterion 1; moreover, he effectively condone a blatant violation of OVERWRITE. Then he produces confusing interpretation who the original uploader is. Here Mhhossein named Micheletb, but links the same words to user:Wargaz on the file_talk and tries to argue with me instead of fixing all these errors. What to expect from Mhhossein with the sysop flag? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've already explained by comments [2] and [3] which speak for themselves. Moreover, there's no argument. --Mhhossein talk 11:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You have definite troubles with your attention. Apply necessary countermeasures and then apply for adminship on a serious site. BTW, why does largely Wikipedian user Mhhossein seek privileges here? Which specifically Commons qualification can he demonstrate? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the suggestion. Regards. --Mhhossein talk 17:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nice. Let
==Overwrite==
{{ping|Wargaz}} Did you consult the [[user:Wargaz|original uploader]] before [[Commons:Overwriting existing files|overwriting the existing file?]]
(Mhhossein’s wiki code quoted verbatim) serve a reminder that smart admin candidates on this site are in short supply. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's very hard to believe that I was in fact pinging Wargaz to ask him if he had consulted himself about his edit!!! As I told you (and I don't understand why you're just ignoring that) the second ping was meant to notify 'User:Micheletb' (since I knew he was the original uploader). By the way, please avoid personal attacks. --Mhhossein talk 18:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, this is an extra sophisticated move inaccessible for Incnis_Mrsi and the people alike. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:18, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question (3 questions):

1) What would you say about previous warnings concerning you having strong POV and being particularly hard of hearing?
2) You also seem to have been involved in numerous reports at ANI: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]). Lots of these seem to be about disagreements on particular edits; would you say that reporting editors that disagree with you has been an issue in the past?
3) Would you say that making statements such as "Don't cram your words in the Wikipedia's mouth" for including a quote backed up by RS is a civil way to discuss an edit with a fellow Wikipedian? Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 21:30, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly off-topic. You're suggested to prohibit from hounding other users.--Mhhossein talk 03:02, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The questions are relevant as they show how you've handled challenging issues with other fellow Wikipedians in the past. You refusing to address these questions tells me that you don't have an explanation for them. I conclude that giving admin status to an editor that has a history of strong POV and reporting anyone that disagrees with them is bad judgement and would be very damaging to the project. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 11:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment These look like heated content disputes, if it was as serious as Stefka claims, Mhhossein would have something on their block log to show for it.--BevinKacon (talk) 16:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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