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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation is working on how to get less unmaintained code on Wikimedia wikis. This could be by finding maintainers or removing unmaintained features. They are now looking for feedback on what do do with AbuseFilter, the IRC RecentChanges feed, the RelatedSites extension and TimedMediaHandler. You can leave feedback on the linked talk pages. [1]
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17:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Bureaucrats can now add and remove the accountcreator permission by default. This means the user can help create a large number of accounts, for example for an editathon. Wikis can change this if they want to. [2]
- The Wikidata vandalism dashboard is a new tool to monitor vandalism on Wikidata labels and descriptions. It is filtered by language. [3]
- Info pages for file pages now show the file's SHA1 hash value in the table of basic information. This is so users can see that the file is the same as the one they uploaded. [4]
Problems
- Special:Export has a higher error rate right now. This means that the export does not always work. You should check to make sure your page exports worked. The developers are working on fixing this. [5]
Changes later this week
- When you review an edit made with the visual editor you can check a visual diff of your changes besides the wikitext diff. If you pick one diff type it will remember and show you that in future. The visual diff will now be the type first shown to new users. [6]
- When you use a gallery to show images you can define the size, like
gallery widths="150px"
. You could useem
or%
instead ofpx
but it would make no difference. You can now only use150px
or nothing (150
). If you write something else, instead of treating it likepx
, it will not work. [7] - The wording when you send a thanks message will change. Instead of
Yes
orNo
it will sayThank
andCancel
. It will also be easier to understand that all thanks are public. [8] - Redirects connected to Wikidata can create double Wikidata items. There will now be a tracking category for this. Wikis that don't want it can disable it. [9]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Education Program extension will be removed on 30 June. It is replaced by the Programs and Events Dashboard. [10][11]
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20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- TemplateStyles has been deployed to the Swedish Wikipedia. TemplateStyles is a feature to make it easy to add CSS to templates without administrator privileges. This allows for better adaptability to screen sizes, especially on mobile where are half our total page views. If your community would like to be the next to have the feature, please submit a task on Phabricator. [12][13][14]
- Registration pages now collect keyboard/mouse usage information for research on identifying spambots.
Changes later this week
- You can opt in to a new beta feature that lets you use visual diffs on history pages. [15]
- The visual editor shows and lets you edit templates in one way, and reference lists in another. This meant that templates that only contain a fake reference list, like
{{reflist}}
, would not get updated as you edited. Now they will update as you edit, but you will no longer be able to visually edit them as templates. [16] - The abuse filter extension has a new feature
contains_all
that you may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string. [17] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 February at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The settings page and beta options for the mobile website are being improved. [18]
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21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
De-adminship warning
Dear {{subst:PAGENAME}}. I am writing to inform you that you are in danger of losing your adminship on Commons because of inactivity.
If you want to keep your adminship, you need both to sign at Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section within 30 days of today's date, and also to make at least five further admin actions in the following six months. Anyone who does not do so will automatically lose administrator rights.
You can read the de-admin policy at Commons:Administrators/De-adminship.
Thank you --B dash (talk) 02:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The explanation of the abbreviations on the recent changes page could overlap with the list of changes. This has been fixed. [19][20]
- You can now see statistics for pageviews per wiki per country. You can see this on maps or in a table. [21]
Problems
- Linter is reporting estimated counts instead of actual counts for some wikis. This is because of performance problems. You might notice a false higher number in linter counts for some categories. This will be fixed as soon as the performance problem has been fixed. [22]
- Last week the way that Visual Editor displays references lists was changed. As a result, the references generated by specific templates like
{{sfn}}
are not visible in the references list whilst editing. [23][24]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The way edit summaries and log comments are stored in the database is being changed. In the future this will make longer comments possible. [25]
- Edit conflicts could be solved in a different way in the future. You can test a new prototype.
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22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Speed skating at the 2018 Winter Olympics
Hello, File:Speed skating at the 2018 Winter Olympics - Women’s 5000 metres - Annouk van der Weijden (cropped).jpg is derived from this other file that you deleted. --Horcrux92 (talk) 14:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Missed that, thank you! ~riley (talk) 02:29, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
AWB
Thanks for this. However, as per my request i wanted to use my bot for it. Or is it recommended to do those edits with the user account itself? --Arnd (talk) 12:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Aschroet: Some people chose to run it off their main account if their bot is not AWB based; I was thinking you wanted the flag on your bot account but got confused because you made the request in your name. I'll add the bot in and then both have it for whatever you need! ~riley (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Editwarring?
This was not (more) a edit-war. I maintained the term "woonkernen" despite my objection (the source the municipality of Katwijk only uses the term "wijken"). I started a discussion with the user on his consultation page (see here). He said: I couldn't care less. Gouwenaar (talk) 12:47, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Gouwenaar: Counter-productive back and forth revising constitutes edit-warring, I have noted his actions and made sure your revision was the last in place before protecting. This protection was to prevent him from further changing, not you. I will be monitoring the page after protection ends to ensure this does not continue. ~riley (talk) 19:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Okay thanks. Gouwenaar (talk) 20:10, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- No, no, no. Prevention should be in the last revision. Gouwenaar is a nice man, but now he is making a mountain out of a molehill. Maybe I overreacted a little, on the NL-Wikipedia and by mail I got attacked a lot last week and sometimes I have to get that out of my system. Nothing against Gouwenaar, I asked him to help on a page on NL-Wikipedia, but i.s.o. helping he is now taking sides and that's something else than helping someone. It's not nice for me, although I understand what Gouwenaar means. / About the file: "Katwijk only uses the term wijken", that's really new, I have sources that Katwijk uses other names, but because they often change things or don't even know what they are doing, it can lead to a discussion between user. With the text that is now on the page (with the file), it's fine by me. I will not change anything, accept if Gouwenaar does remove my text, but I don't think he does.- Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- I will be direct in saying that I do not speak your language, however, that does not stop me from intervening with a situation as I deem necassary. Regardless of your stressors, your reaction on stricter wikis would be worthy of a 24 hour block. The way you handled the situation was extremely inappropriate and overally, childish. Looking past that, I am open to work with you both to come to a resolution for this. Begin a discussion on the talk page, be polite throughout and I can make a change as needed. If the file protection expires before then, the same rules still apply. If you'd like me to pull in an admin of your language, I can also do so. You're right, this is a mountain out of a mole hole. If you both can't decide on the right word, don't use it. ~riley (talk) 22:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- I work here voluntary for years, without pay (as most of the contributors here) and now you say my action (or actions) would be worthy of a 24 hour block (on other wikis). Because I know Gouwenaar from NL-Wikipedia, I was holding back a little. Has Gouwenaar complained anywhere, I cannot find it, but I will if it is so. Don't treat me like this, you understand me? Thnx a lot - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 22:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Let's continue this on your talk page, it is clear there is an issue of understanding the community's expectations for how to appropriately address individuals.. with or without pay.. ~riley (talk) 22:38, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- I work here voluntary for years, without pay (as most of the contributors here) and now you say my action (or actions) would be worthy of a 24 hour block (on other wikis). Because I know Gouwenaar from NL-Wikipedia, I was holding back a little. Has Gouwenaar complained anywhere, I cannot find it, but I will if it is so. Don't treat me like this, you understand me? Thnx a lot - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 22:36, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- I will be direct in saying that I do not speak your language, however, that does not stop me from intervening with a situation as I deem necassary. Regardless of your stressors, your reaction on stricter wikis would be worthy of a 24 hour block. The way you handled the situation was extremely inappropriate and overally, childish. Looking past that, I am open to work with you both to come to a resolution for this. Begin a discussion on the talk page, be polite throughout and I can make a change as needed. If the file protection expires before then, the same rules still apply. If you'd like me to pull in an admin of your language, I can also do so. You're right, this is a mountain out of a mole hole. If you both can't decide on the right word, don't use it. ~riley (talk) 22:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello.
Please, don’t pursue an overzealous memory damnation agenda. When Abd interacted on that page, he was not banned and the content is hence legitimate. You may archive it, but may not delete without explanation.
There was also a discussion which concluded that disrupted user_talk pages are harmful for some day-to-day Commons business. Compare:
- User talk:Poetlister (hist • logs • abuse log)
- User talk:Reguyla (hist • logs • abuse log)
- User talk:INeverCry (hist • logs • abuse log)
- User talk:Daphne Lantier (hist • logs • abuse log)
Where did you get an idea to redirect user_talk? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 07:44, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Incnis Mrsi: Change it to how you would like, I will not lose sleep over how it is configured. The idea to redirect comes straight from enwiki, I matched his enwiki page out of an act of similarity, more than anything else. Before anyone says it.. No, that was not an attempt to drag enwiki drama here. You'll notice out of your four comparisons, only one has an archive. If you wish to step up an archive for one or all of them, go ahead; I won't stop you. WMF Office has established that a banned user's talk page can be cleared without archiving, there is no argument to be made that this is deletion without explanation. I have merely followed suit with what others have done. If you don't like that, which I respect, then change it to how you would like it. It's worth noting that my adjustment of his talk page, which hadn't been edited since 2015, will not harm any day-to-day Commons business. ~riley (talk) 07:59, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Sock puppeteers
Thanks for you kind reply to the previous query, but I have also some criticism about your work with Sockpuppeteers. First, how are you sure that Hvslo (talk · contribs)’s master is Meterrs? The former was rather evident sock of Bill Wong from behavioral evidences (especially before Taivo’s interference with the user: page), but affiliation of Bill Wong and Hvslo to Meterrs is yet a conjecture supported by only circumstantial evidences, while check-users are not eager to do their job. If you are eager to make conclusions, then may you request check-user privileges for yourself first?
Second, you tagged five accs as “sock puppeteers”:
- Matrix 2 (talk · contribs · count · global contribs)
- Liborbital (talk · contribs · count · global contribs)
- Seeknikkihi (talk · contribs · count · global contribs)
- Mujhideen101 (talk · contribs · count · global contribs)
- Pakistanpedia (talk · contribs · count · global contribs)
It is an established practice (both here and on Wikipedia) to block suspicious accounts as “socks” (of an unspecified master), but declaring anybody a sock puppeteer and placing the respective tag to the alleged master account requires a kind of reference to controlled accounts or IPs. If you are unsure about those, then how may you place such a tag? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:21, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- I'll note that the template said "suspected", but that said, so that there is no interference, I have restored the deleted edits. Do what you wish with the page. The master, in my opinion, of all these accounts is not Meterrs, I'm sure you noticed that Meterrs is but a small note in the whole SPI investigation on enwiki. Yes, I have tagged five accounts as sock puppeteers; I had yet to create the categories hence why they were not automatically showing. Happy now? ~riley (talk) 09:34, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- I had already a dispute with Yann on it. “Meterrs” merely denotes w:User:ConsumersDistributingonline but the latter name does not have account on Commons. Meterrs is (AFAIK) the first acc from the farm active here and that’s why is referenced as the master in Commons context. Creation of a user: pages for non-existent “master” user is, in my opinion, confusing because such page does not possess respective Special:Contribs and Special:Log links. Satisfied with your answer about five new sock puppeteers. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- I politely disagree, but I also see where you are coming from. ~riley (talk) 10:05, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
You ask why it came to DR: it came to DR because at the time it had four copyright violations. Four separate copyrighted photos had been "released" into the public domain by the person who had assembled them, none with any licenses cited. While I figured it was likely we could get that sorted out, DR is a perfectly normal way to deal with copyvios. In fact, it's not at all unusual for someone to speedy them with {{Copyvio}}. - Jmabel ! talk 02:00, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Wasn't actually looking for a response, but I appreciate it nonetheless. If you open a deletion request with a possible solution "If you re-license this appropriately, then I'm fine with it.", you're already opening the wrong type of discussion. This is what templates like {{Disputed}} are for, or just open a discussion. By the way, you would have been allowed to close the discussion yourself. ~riley (talk) 07:17, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Deleted painting
Hello! This image was deleted before a conclusion on the talkpage. I just talked to the Astan Quds Razavi Museum and they told me the painting image can be freely used provided the curator is cited and they told me they can probably issue a written permit for that. --Expectant of Light (talk) 13:02, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- You're quite right; Hyper followed up to your discussion and I recommend continuing it at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Realistic Portait of Imam Ali by Ali Ashrat Wali.jpg. ~riley (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Cropping
Hi.
Is there something that one should know/be aware of while cropping an image? In the past I have cropped many images. I would like to crop File:Portrait of US Army Major General James C. King.jpg. Are there any aspect ratios suggested for infobox compatibility? Kindly ping me when replying. Thanks, —usernamekiran(talk) 18:57, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I dont think that particular image needs to cropped, but the question still remains valid :D —usernamekiran(talk) 18:58, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hey there, usernamekiran. To my knowledge, there are no aspect ratios recommended for infobox compatibility. All I know is that sometimes you have to adjust the size by specificing pixels. I use Commons:CropTool to crop!. Hope that helps. ~riley (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you :)
I use the same tool. Thanks again. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:32, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you :)
- Hey there, usernamekiran. To my knowledge, there are no aspect ratios recommended for infobox compatibility. All I know is that sometimes you have to adjust the size by specificing pixels. I use Commons:CropTool to crop!. Hope that helps. ~riley (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Checkusers and stewards can now view private data such as the IP address in the abuse log. This data is removed regularly. [26]
Problems
- Last week's MediaWiki version was rolled back because of a bug. [27][28]
- Since the deployment train last week until late evening on 20 February UTC, when you thanked someone for an edit, the thank went to the latest unthanked edit to that page. It didn't matter which edit you tried to give thanks for. This has been fixed. [29]
- Special:Statistics did not take newly created pages into account since 13 February 2018. Because of this the statistics are recreated. [30][31][32]
Changes later this week
- Users with version 10 of the Internet Explorer browser will no longer get JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis. If you use this browser on your computer, you can try upgrading to a newer version. [33]
- The Wikinews wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 27 February. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [34][35]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 1 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 February at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 28 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
For continual defending of Wikimedia Commons! — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC) |
Thank You note
Thanks for all your help Riley. I have finished uploading images now and thank you for all your kind help reviewing them. Have a good night in BC, Canada, --Leoboudv (talk) 07:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Leoboudv: Glad to help, let me know if I can ever be of help! Have a good night from Surrey, BC, Canada. ~riley (talk) 07:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Yogurt cup
Commons:Deletion requests/File:JogurtP1070447.JPG
I think you forgot to create a "kept" talkpage and remove the deletion template. (and I think it's out of line if I do those things) - Alexis Jazz 11:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Alexis Jazz: These are things you can do that are unambiguously spelled out in a policy (in this case COM:DP). Doing so would be good practice. Janitors are not the only ones that can wield mops. :) — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:02, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't read every policy we have top to bottom. Edits that I thought would be uncontroversial have been undone in the past so I err on the side of caution. Also, as I don't know how these things are done, perhaps ~riley closed the discussion, got afk and would be back later to do the other things. - Alexis Jazz 12:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Admin deletion tool didn't seem to run for the closure; I've been having to hit it twice lately to get it to work because I keep getting errors. Wonder if any admins also have this issue. Either the tool double closes the DR or doesn't at all for me. I encourage what Jeff said but cheers. ~riley (talk) 14:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- In that case it's probably better that I didn't silently clean it up. If I happen to spot it again I will as I now understand it's a bug. Have you filed a bug report for this? Should I? - Alexis Jazz 14:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I will file one tonight because then I can include screenshots, but its a gadget rather than a mediawiki issue. I fix about 5 DRs a day from various admins, don't be afraid to do it silently. We're all in this together. :) ~riley (talk) 14:58, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- In that case it's probably better that I didn't silently clean it up. If I happen to spot it again I will as I now understand it's a bug. Have you filed a bug report for this? Should I? - Alexis Jazz 14:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- Admin deletion tool didn't seem to run for the closure; I've been having to hit it twice lately to get it to work because I keep getting errors. Wonder if any admins also have this issue. Either the tool double closes the DR or doesn't at all for me. I encourage what Jeff said but cheers. ~riley (talk) 14:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't read every policy we have top to bottom. Edits that I thought would be uncontroversial have been undone in the past so I err on the side of caution. Also, as I don't know how these things are done, perhaps ~riley closed the discussion, got afk and would be back later to do the other things. - Alexis Jazz 12:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for deleting those two images
It's been bothering me ever since I uploaded them because, while I think they are useful for educational purposes, and there's nothing else quite like that on the Commons, I think it'd be better to get someone to consent to demonstrate this common pedestrian violation (which is perhaps not technically considered "jaywalking") somewhere where there's hardly any traffic, possibly with police permission, than to exploit four tender youngsters without their or their parents' consent (and use a better camera). I don't know if you believe in God or not, but I'm a Bible college student and I feel like the Holy Spirit has been telling me that putting that little dark haired girl's pitiful face on Wikipedia after she moved over for me (albeit in a completely improper way, but... she WAS only a child) was a rotten thing to do. I'm half tempted to nominate the picture of the other kids for deletion too, although I really don't see much harm in keeping the one with the four spread across the road (except maybe rename it "suburban high school students obstructing traffic" instead of "jaywalking suburban teenagers") since there is hardly any chance of anyone identifying them from that picture. Impatient Behind The Wheel (talk) 16:15, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Impatient Behind The Wheel: What (sort of) images/article is this about? It may be possible to put something together without anyone having to break the law. - Alexis Jazz 23:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi, you forgot to delete some files. --Regasterios (talk) 06:44, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Cheers, the DR tool is seriously failing. Clicked every single one of those >.> ~riley (talk) 06:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Revision deletion
According to Commons:Revision deletion#How to request Revision Deletion this should be the right place. Could you please hide the original (not blurred) version of File:Faith Hill on the Jumbotron (3972893368).jpg? I've closed/withdrawn the DR myself as this seems to be required in order to make a rename happen. - Alexis Jazz 13:52, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
So that just got more complicated as Jon Kolbert reverted my blur, starting a catch-22 where the jumbotron image could possibly be DM if the rename is approved, but the rename may not be approved as the revert shows copyright doubts. - Alexis Jazz 16:34, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
I overlooked Jon Kolbert is an administrator. He fixed it. - Alexis Jazz 16:47, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Possible file deletion failure
Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jamshidquraishi.jpg
The link hasn't gone red, even though the image is gone and there is no page I can edit. I see however no way I could fix it. Although there is a "File usage" section so my best guess would be that's the problem? - Alexis Jazz 14:00, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- I haven't found any more problems in single-file nominations. Did not check multi-file noms.
- Unrelated is File:Schwrzwälder Kochbuch.jpg. This was caused by https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schwrzw%C3%A4lder_Kochbuch.jpg&diff=288719851&oldid=288719750. Very helpful, oops. - Alexis Jazz 14:14, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for providing the administrative service of closing stale conversations, as you did at Commons:Requests for comment/videos of speeches. It is useful for someone to make a judgement about when a conversation has halted and to archive it. Typically only an experienced Wikipedian would close these discussions and I appreciate that you do this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:26, 28 February 2018 (UTC) |
Please make your bot 10 times slower
You are doing 1000 edits per minute. While the servers can handle it, it creates reduced redundancy for a task that really can happen over a longer period of time. Database lag: https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/mysql-replication-lag?orgId=1&from=1519861381843&to=1519872181843&panelId=4&fullscreen&var-dc=codfw%20prometheus%2Fops --jynus (talk) 02:43, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, looks like the tasks I scheduled to run are all running at the same time in parallel. Cheers! ~riley (talk) 02:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I wasn't clear-- are you doing something about this or should I? --jynus (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I wasn't clear either; I cut it in half the minute I responded and it has been going down ever since then. ~riley (talk) 03:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, it took some time to show, until 3:05 UTC, but it is taking effect now. Please try not to do too many tasks in parallel. Thanks again. JCrespo (WMF) (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I wasn't clear either; I cut it in half the minute I responded and it has been going down ever since then. ~riley (talk) 03:22, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry I wasn't clear-- are you doing something about this or should I? --jynus (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Moved/redirect categories
Hi, Could you help with moving a bunch of files from the redirect categories? There are instructions on how to do it in the blue boxes on top of the redirect categories, but those tools are available to admins only. Specifically, these two cats stand out which have more than 100 images that need to be recategorized (there are also a few others that come close to 100):
- Category:GFDL-disclamers
- Category:Hertzsprung-Russell diagram
Thanks! Cherkash (talk) 20:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, #1 files will slowly move themselves. They are in the category based on transclusion of a template. The template has been changed to the new category name so the files do not require any physical editing. #2 done! ~riley (talk) 22:12, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Category:GFDL-disclamers - task has been taken on, these files all require an individual null edit (aka touch/purge) to move. Will be complete in 59 minutes. RyanBot (talk) 01:45, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. I wonder if it makes sense to automate this process based on the Category:Non-empty category redirects contents. Cherkash (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- There is an automated process but it won't touch categories that have been edited in 7 days (it calls it a "cool-down period") so I figured I'd just do it myself. ~riley (talk) 00:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. I wonder if it makes sense to automate this process based on the Category:Non-empty category redirects contents. Cherkash (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
User page protection
Thanks, but no thanks. 89 talk page stalkers and I have my honeypot covered. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Done Adjusted. :) ~riley (talk) 01:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
reply
Hi, I wanted respond your message. I wanted to ask, is there a way for VFC to increase the number of images that load up when you use the tool? or at least make it automatically scroll down more when i go to the bottom. Artix Kreiger (talk) 23:19, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Artix Kreiger: Hey, yes! It is best illustrated via the image at File:VisualFileChange advancedConfig.png. For "Amount of files to be loaded at once..."; I do 500 files but it allows up to 1000 (should be using a bot at that point) and for the bottom most one where it says "Maximum number of requests to sent to API ...", I do 50. This will allow you to edit faster and load more. ~riley (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Riley, please don't lean on Artix too hard, as his mistakes are of good-faith nature and Commons as a volunteer venture benefits overall from his unstoppable enthusiasm which energizes and engages others. Best wishes to both of you, --Taterian (talk) 01:55, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Taterian: Thanks for the message but I am sure I have leaned on Atrix the appropriate amount for making 62,873 edits in 48 hours inappropriately. ~riley (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- 62,873 edits in 48 hours, so it's 943095 in a month, and 11,317,140 after a year.... what can I say, I am just in awe .... On a serious note, Artix/Artix Kreiger, you should start paying more attention to what other people tell you, as they all appreciate your hard work, want you to stick around, and wish you well. --Taterian (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hopefully those edits can continue, but on a bot account as per regular. ;) Artix Kreiger: your work is very much appreciated and more so, your ambition and initiative! If you're interested in mass changes sorta work, we can get you into being a bot operator if you'd like to work together to work towards that. ~riley (talk) 02:43, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- 62,873 edits in 48 hours, so it's 943095 in a month, and 11,317,140 after a year.... what can I say, I am just in awe .... On a serious note, Artix/Artix Kreiger, you should start paying more attention to what other people tell you, as they all appreciate your hard work, want you to stick around, and wish you well. --Taterian (talk) 02:39, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Taterian: Thanks for the message but I am sure I have leaned on Atrix the appropriate amount for making 62,873 edits in 48 hours inappropriately. ~riley (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Riley, please don't lean on Artix too hard, as his mistakes are of good-faith nature and Commons as a volunteer venture benefits overall from his unstoppable enthusiasm which energizes and engages others. Best wishes to both of you, --Taterian (talk) 01:55, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
These Five images
Dear ~riley,
If you wish to mark these 5 images, feel free to go ahead. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Request for deletion
Hi ~riley. As the process for deleting an image seems to be different than the one we have on Wikipedia I preferred to report a possible copyright violation to a Wiki Commons administrator and ask for help. I uploaded this file about a day ago but it turned out that the original author was on the bad authors list so the image obviously needs to be deleted. I also uploaded this image earlier today but then I realized that it had already been uploaded before. Is it possible for you as an administrator to delete both of them? Keivan.fTalk 06:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Keivan.f: Welcome to the land of the files! I have deleted both per your request. Let me know if I can be of further assistance. ~riley (talk) 08:15, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. One of the things that actually frustrates me is when I upload an image and then I realize that it had been uploaded before like this image and this one that I uploaded earlier today. I usually check the categories but that isn't always helpful and takes a lot of time. Is there any way to figure out whether an image has been previously uploaded or not, and if someone accidentally uploads a duplicate should s/he always ask an administrator to delete the file? Keivan.fTalk 00:29, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi riley,
I am the widow of the late Anatoly Rubin and the sole heir of his documents. This document (File:The rehabilitation document of Anatoly Rubin from January 25th, 1965.pdf) was among the documents that he gave me before his death. This document is mentioned in his book "Brown Boots, Red Boots—from the Minsk Ghetto to the Siberian labor Camps" pp. 162-163.
Could you please avoid deleting this document? I think that it is a very unique document.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Karny.rubin (talk • contribs) 15:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
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- You can now make longer edit summaries. [36]
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- You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. [37]
- On Special:AbuseLog you can now choose to list only actions that actually made an edit. Other actions are when the filter warned the editor or blocked the edit from being made. There are also more search options. [38][39]
- Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor, but it is complex. The tool will now warn in the JavaScript console if the configuration isn't correct. Soon Citoid will disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it. [40]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 March. It will be on all wikis from 8 March (calendar).
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Why?
Why? Enlighten me. --Wikifido (talk) 08:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hey there, thanks for your message! Out of the pile of files the notice this applied to, both Ellin and I misinterpreted your file. You're right about the trademark, because its a "fancy black spot" (or however you worded it), Commons:Threshold of originality would apply to it. Please tag the file as such. Sorry for my mistake! All the best, ~riley (talk) 08:24, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for understanding. How should I tag it? I do not know much about the templates on the Wikimedia Commons, sorry. --Wikifido (talk) 08:34, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
improving your RileyBot a bit
Hi Riley, I think it were a good idea to tell your bot to add the missing leading ':' at Category links:
{{delete|1=Moving [[Category:Files from the Oregon Department of Transportation Flickr stream]] to [[Category:Photographs by the Oregon Department of Transportation]]) ([[User:RileyBot|Bot]]}}
It looks better ;) The missing nomination page is no problem as the DR shows up correctly on Category:Non-media deletion requests. Best, --Achim (talk) 20:02, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
The Jewish Advocate Upload Images
I got notification that the following files that I uploaded have been deleted:
The Wikimedia Commons page File:Issue of 19Mar1953 - Bundestag Ratifies Israel Pact.pdf has been deleted on 27 February 2018 by ~riley, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Issue_of_19Mar1953_-_Bundestag_Ratifies_Israel_Pact.pdf.
The Wikimedia Commons page File:Issue of 31Jan1933 - Hitler Named Chancellor.pdf has been deleted on 27 February 2018 by ~riley, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Issue_of_31Jan1933_-_Hitler_Named_Chancellor.pdf. The Wikimedia Commons page File:Issue of 20May1948 - Israel Founded.pdf has been deleted on 27 February 2018 by ~riley, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Issue_of_20May1948_-_Israel_Founded.pdf.
I am the administrator at The Jewish Advocate newspaper and was editing the page to put in some sample historic front pages of interest, and I don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong - I'm not very capable technologically and had a tough time uploading and getting things set up in the first place, then somehow they went missing, I spent hours trying to fix it over the last week or two, and now they're being deleted again.
I thought I provided the proper license permissions several times, both when I uploaded and online and later in an email as instructed, and also had the publisher email, but still these got deleted and now I'm just terribly confused. I would really appreciate your help, would be happy to provide whatever it is that is needed in the way of authorization or licensing or permissions of these images that are owned by The Jewish Advocate and which we’d like to have on the paper’s information page on Wikipedia, and given the difficulties I've had getting it done in the first place would it be possible for you to just reverse these three deletions and if that doesn’t automatically fix the paper’s page then help with that as well.
I’m sorry to impose, and I appreciate your help and guidance.
Thank you so much.
SharonH for The Jewish Advocate — Preceding unsigned comment added by SharonH (talk • contribs) 19:57, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hello @SharonH:
- I replied to both of your emails but it did not send due to an error on your end. Here is my response:
- Hi Sharon,
- We are required to delete the pictures until OTRS confirms the permission you have sent them.
- Once the OTRS team confirms your request is valid, the files will be undeleted.
- Sorry for the inconvenience,
- Cheers,
- ~riley (talk) 02:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. Not sure why the email didn't come through. Can you tell me what I did wrong in the first place when I uploaded the pictures and acknowledged granting permission? In the meantime I will send "Permissions" an email regarding these three. Again, thanks. --SharonH (talk) 13:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- @SharonH: how much time has passed? Commons:OTRS has latency about 5 weeks. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:32, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
I think I uploaded the images originally a few months ago, but about three or four weeks ago I saw they'd been deleted so I uploaded them again. I don't know why they were deleted either time, but I've just sent an email (copy you for any help you can give me - sorry if it's any trouble) to "Permissions" so hopefully that will fix this. Thanks. --SharonH (talk) 13:37, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
I just checked and it looks like I uploaded the images originally a year ago, they were deleted and I undeleted . . . and then noticed a few weeks ago they were deleted again. Trying to fix this, so hope the email to "permissions" gets the images undeleted and restored to the page - hope that happens automatically. Thanks again. PS - can you tell me what email address emails come from so that I can put that into my email server as 'not spam' - that might be the problem. Thanks. --SharonH (talk) 13:45, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Request
Please see my request at [41] and take actions as soon as you can. Thanks.--√Jæ√ 06:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
request closures
Dear ~riley. I appreciate your dedication, but the bot request closure IMO is out of process, see Commons:Bots/Requests: A bureaucrat will close the request, and I'd also consider this closure premature, especially when you have been asking questions only minutes before. Honestly, I'd like to kindly ask you to undo this closure. No offense. --Krd 06:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Krd: This snowball closure ("snowball's chance in hell") was discussed on IRC and seconded by another admin; I view this no differently than closing a snowball RFA where "experienced editors may close it before the scheduled end time" (en:WP:SNOWBALL). The user in question, who sent me a public "thanks" on the closure action(?), has no knowledge of bot operation which was evident enough based on the questions asked:
- Bot request from an unqualified person - a user that is not autopatrolled should not be able to open a bot request; reviewing the user's edits and talk page, I would not grant this permission as an admin if requested. A user that is not a license reviewer should not be able to open a LR bot request (similar to an admin bot situation); the user improperly granted the right to themselves and would not pass a request with due process. (time to modify our bot policy?)
- User specifically asked "Where do I can found source code? My not is like FlickreviewR"
- User has listed the bot info as "Java" while comparing their bot and it's source code to python bots.
- User references to "FlickreviewR" while stating their test run is complete as if they do not need to do a test run because it's the same as FlickreviewR or.. because there test run was the 1 manual edit using a .js gadget.
- I don't actually think the user fully comprehends what a bot is, or how one is run...
- I see where you are coming from, but I don't see a benefit to undoing such a closure based on the above reasons. That said, I am not opposed to you undoing the action if you so choose to on the basis of a 'crat closure required and respect how you'd like to proceed regardless. I am by no means attempting to be difficult, but I believe this candor is needed to explain how the closure is with due process. Kindest regards, ~riley (talk) 07:07, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- I understand all the concern and I second them. Nevertheless we have to take into account e.g. that there may be a language barrier or related circumstances, and that we, even when the user is not qualified yet, should consider that he may qualify after some guidance. This may or may not be the case here, anyway as some admins and one crat had already commented, and asked questions, I'd seen no harm to keep the request open for 7 days.
- As the user has agreed in the closure, there is of course no longer a reason to reopen it now.
- As said, no offense. --Krd 09:38, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Incompletely deletion requests
Somehow not every file was deleted in Commons:Deletion requests/File:IMG-20150323-WA0031.jpg, Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mwalaghe and Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Алекс Вонеска. May be similar problems happened in other deletion requests. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
- Current bug with the COM:DR deletion tool, thanks for letting me know! ~riley (talk) 05:13, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- 3D models can now be uploaded to Commons. [42]
- Page Previews has been updated to use HTML for previews. This has fixed many issues. An A/B test was done on English and German Wikipedia to measure how it is used. Other changes were also made. [43]
- Some edits have to be checked against too many conditions before they can trigger an abuse filter. If that is the reason no filter is triggered the edit will be tagged for review. [44]
- Auto-saving has been added to the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. Right now it is meant to help if your browser crashes or if you accidentally close a tab. [45]
Problems
- The abuse filter did not tag all edits that should have been tagged after last week's MediaWiki version had come to the wikis. It was fixed on 9 March (UTC). [46]
Changes later this week
- You can notify users in edit summaries. They will get a ping just as if they had been mentioned on a wiki page. This was originally planned to happen last week. [47]
- It is now possible to specify the block parameters for each filter in Special:AbuseFilter. The parameters include block duration and if the user should be blocked from editing their own talk page. The block duration is separate for anonymous and registered users. [48][49]
- A hundred Wikimedia wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 13 and 14 March. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [50][51][52]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 March. It will be on all wikis from 15 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 March at 19:30 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 14 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)