User talk:Xenos2008
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File:Central Athens aerial view 1900.tif has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
79.221.106.112 21:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
- This proposed deletion is by an asshole who doesn't understand copyright law. Even if the argument put forward were correct, then the image would be PD. Since this is my own copyright, I am leaving it with the current licence (although I often put my own work as PD anyway).--Xenos2008 (talk) 22:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Be civil and do not remove DR-tags from image. --High Contrast (talk) 17:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why should I be civil to an anonymous person making a malicious attack to remove my work from wikimedia? You may as well ask people to be civil to muggers and other petty criminals. --Xenos2008 (talk) 17:47, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
The pasted links give clearance as well as the used language on his talk page.High Contrast (talk) 20:19, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
You can be sure that I will never post any of my images here again, after this disgraceful fiasco with amateurs claiming to know complex copyright law when they don't have any training or qualifications. Disgusting. Xenos2008 (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Simple
It is a bad tempered attack on hard working volunteers. It is not "your" page but a page provided by the Foundation for good faith users to make use of. Please ensure it is more polite or it will go again. --Herby talk thyme 13:27, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, it is a denial of the freedom of expression, which also allows ill temper. I think that the complaint that untrained people are interpreting copyright law to my detriment is a legitimate complaint, and when I have pointed out to these people that their understanding of law is incorrect I am entitled to be bad-tempered about their arrogant responses.Xenos2008 (talk) 13:47, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- You really do have little understanding of what a collaborative voluntary project is like. I have no idea what has gone on to make you feel the way you do and I am sorry that you do feel like that however your attitude is not appropriate to a collaborative project such as this sadly. I really would appreciate you making a further edit to your user page - maybe take 24 hours to think it through.
- Commons is actually a very good project indeed with a lot of people on it who do understand a lot about copyright law because we have to deal with people who do not understand the ramifications of such laws internationally. We are all volunteers so when people are aggressive/rude it is less than pleasant.
- You have made some good contributions here - it would be a pity if you continue to see this project in the way you do at present - maybe think about it. --Herby talk thyme 14:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Unsurprisingly as I had warned you previously I have deleted your user page and given you a break from Commons. When that expires I do hope you will be able to contribute collaboratively. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 18:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
- I do not collaborate with fascists. I actually know, and observe, the rule of law -- as opposed to the charade that is going on with wikimedia. Xenos2008 (talk) 23:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
File:Schliemann1910.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
AFBorchert (talk) 08:51, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- As far as I am concerned you can delete all of my files here. YOu are clearly ignorant of copyright law in Greece and persist with an offensive accusation that I am in breach of copyright law. Your own arrogance and ignorance is the problem. Xenos2008 (talk) 10:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Xenos2008, firstly I will not delete these files myself as I usually do not close the deletion requests I've opened. Secondly, I would rather prefer to keep these magnificent scans. You did a great work here but we still need to clarify their copyright statuses. The least you could do would be to provide statements what is to be found on the opposite sides. Most postcards refer to the photographer or to the company who produced these postcards. These names would siginficantly ease the research of their copyright statuses. Many similar deletion requests ended up in a collaborative work to save such works for Commons. And quite independent from their copyright statuses it is always worthwile to know more about the history behind these photographs. They are not just useful to illustrate Athens in that period but can be used also as samples for the history of photography of that time. Finally, let me add two things: I have nowhere stated that you are in breach of copyright law in these cases, I've just stated that the copyright statuses of these uploads is unclear. This is in itself sufficent to delete them per our precautionary principle. And calling me names has no effect on me, so you do not need to bother. Regards, AFBorchert (talk) 11:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- As far as I am concerned you can delete all of my files here. YOu are clearly ignorant of copyright law in Greece and persist with an offensive accusation that I am in breach of copyright law. Your own arrogance and ignorance is the problem. Xenos2008 (talk) 10:21, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- There is nothing to be found on the opposite side, other than a standard Greek/French statement "Postcard" and a symbol and number. Since many publishers actually have used this symbol and format, I assume that it is no more than a categorisation number -- and nobody has the list, these days. The series is stated to have been issued around 1910, according to professional dealers. Since there is no valid copyright law of ANY SORT in Greece until 1920, then this series is without copyright. End of discussion. Xenos2008 (talk) 19:34, 12 May 2012 (UTC)