User talk:Ro4444

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Ayyubid dynasty map request

Hi Ro4444, thanks for creating the map of the Ayyubid sultanate (File:Ayyubid Sultanate 1193 AD.jpg). I just saw it recently and put it as the main picture in the infobox. I was wondering if you could possibly use another color to highlight the Ayyubids' territory because the light pink (color currently used) doesn't show up so well when the image is minimized in the infobox (around 200-250px). Could you use something like a golden yellow (the Ayyubid color) or anything really that pops out more? On a related note, in the Ayyubid dynasty article on Wikipedia, the sources (Yaakov Lev p. 101 using al-Maqrizi in Suluk pp. 82-83, p. 125) say the Ayyubids under al-Muzaffar Umar's commander Sharaf ad-Din Qaraqush conquered Kairouan in modern-day Tunisia by 1188, before Saladin's death, so I think the map should reflect those territorial gains. Currently, the map shows Qaraqush's gains only along the Libyan coast and it doesn't indicate that these territories are a part of the Ayyubid sultanate. I hope these changes will not be difficult to make (if you agree to make them). Cheers, --Al Ameer son (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC) Also, would you be able to add an additional city to the map? If this is possible, could you add Hisn Kayfa? I think it's a significant place because the Ayyubids continued to hold it until the 16th century, long after the demise of the sultanate in 1260. --Al Ameer son (talk) 17:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Al Ameer son:

Sorry for not responding sooner; I don't always log on every day. Glad you like the map! In response to your requests:

• Hisn Kayfa was added to the map.
• Regarding a color change, yellows don't work too well due to the background. I did reduce the inner glow, which makes the purple shade more prominent. Let me know if you still think it needs work.
• As for Qaraqush...I have to confess that I was somewhat torn on how to treat him for the map. My thoughts on this:
  • First, let me say that my primary source for his activities came from the article on him in the Encyclopaedia of Islam, New Edition (copy of it here).
  • In regards to what Qaraqush was in control of at the time of Saladin's death in 1193, his career was turbulent enough that, even if he did capture a territory at one point, I went with the assumption was that he didn't retain it on a permanent basis unless there is explicit evidence to the contrary. As for Kairouan, Karakush's conquests in 1187 which you mention seems to have only lasted through Rabi I of that year; subsequent to that, he completely lost his holdings in Ifriqiya following the Almohad victory at al-Hamma. In 1190 he regained Tripoli and Gabes, which he was still in possession of when Saladin died. So for the purposes of this map, I only showed him in charge of Tripoli (Gabes being off the map borders); I don't think it would be appropriate to show him in control of territories that had since been lost.
  • As to whether Qaraqush's holdings should be shaded as part of the Ayyubid sultanate, the question is whether Qaraqush was more akin to a loyal lieutenant acting on the Ayyubids' orders, or a rogue player who, while nominally subordinate to Saladin and Taqi al-Din, was effectively an independent entity in North Africa. My impression was that he was more of the latter; his career comes off to me as one of an adventurer with a vague official sanction from Saladin, but who was otherwise acting on his own (the EI2 article on the Ghaniya goes so far as to refer to Qaraqush as a "condottiere"). On the other hand, I'm not 100% invested in this position, and I freely admit that my knowledge on this time period isn't thorough. If there is evidence that the Ayyubids had a measure of control over him, I'd be willing to shade Tripoli and Gabes accordingly. There's actually a brand new book that's extremely germane to this topic (here); it wasn't available when I initially created the map. I'll flip through it and see if anything in there changes my opinion on the subject.
  • Finally, I can't see any argument for including the Banu Ghaniya's holdings within the Ayyubid sphere. In everything I've read on them during this period, they are characterized as nothing more than Qaraqush's allies, and otherwise acted completely independently. It also doesn't help that their territory is ill-defined, making their borders difficult to determine even if I did opt to include them.

Sorry for the long response, but I wanted to make my explanations clear here. Feel free to let me know if you disagree with or have a correction to any of the above. Thanks again for the feedback. Ro4444 (talk) 02:47, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

@Ro4444: Thank you for making those changes. The map is of great quality and detail, and as of yet, I haven't seen anything measure up to it on the web or anywhere else. Admittedly, I don't know anything about Qaraqush outside of the few interesting snippets I encountered while writing the Ayyubids article. Therefore, I cannot fully respond to your aforementioned points just yet. My understanding was that he was an Ayyubid commander under Taqi al-Din's authority. If in fact he was something of an independent actor with only nominal affiliation to the Ayyubids then that is indeed an important distinction and it should be reflected in the Ayyubids wikipedia article (Qaraqush should also have his own article). Let me know what you find out on the subject. On a slightly separate note, do you know of the status of Qasr Ibrim (today part of Sudan) in 1193? I thought the Ayyubids held that city and only withdrew from the Dongola region. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:42, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

No problem! I appreciate the feedback. I'll let you know if I come across anything of relevance, and I agree that Qaraqush does warrant his own article on Wikipedia. For Qasr Ibrim, there was a pretty definite statement on the subject in the Cambridge History of Africa, Volume II, page 583: "...the [Ayyubid] garrison of Qasr Ibrim was withdrawn in 1175, and Christian reoccupation and restoration of the church took place." Ro4444 (talk) 01:20, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I'm gonna update the Ayyubids article with the Qasr Ibrim fact. And sorry for the delay, I forgot to check back at this page. Cheers --21:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Mamuk Sultanate

Hi Ro, I don't know if its best to reach you here or at the commons so I'm contacting you at both. I was hoping you could do a burdensome favor for me. I've been working on improving the Mamluk Sultanate article lately and noticed that it has a pretty lousy map in the infobox (File:Bahri Dynasty 1250 - 1382 (AD).PNG) Seeing that you created a great map for the Ayyubid dynasty article, would you be able to create a similar map (greatest extent) for the Mamluks, if your schedule allows? The following link gives a decent idea of the extent of the Mamluk Sultanate, at least under the Bahri dynasty: [1]. If you can't view the link, I can upload a screenshot of it. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:58, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

P.S. The map on this link is even more detailed: [2]. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:36, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Al Ameer son,

Good to hear from you again. I'm happy to try and create a Mamluk map. My historical and geographical knowledge for that era is considerably more rusty, so it'll probably take some time for me to get up to speed. As a preliminary thought, a map showing the sultanate on the eve of the Ottoman conquest would probably depict it at its "height," so I may start there.

In addition, I never followed up with the issue of how to treat Qaraqush's holdings on the Ayyubid map. I wasn't able to get a copy of that book, but the more I thought about it the more inclined I was to put it on the map in some form. I might edit that map to show Tripoli and Gabes as Ayyubid holdings, or at least give it a modified shading. Ro4444 (talk) 23:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much and let me know if I could be of any help. Honestly, my knowledge of the Mamluk sultanate is also a bit rusty, but I'm learning a lot as I edit Mamluk-related articles (coverage of the Mamluks on Wikipedia has been woefully lacking). The source I linked to above (Page 4) seems to depict the sultanate and its vassals in 1516. Speaking of vassals, such as Nubia and Hejaz, should they be included in the map too? As for Qaraqush's holdings, I'll leave how to handle that up to you, your suggestions sound good. Also, sorry for my late reply. As I may have said before, I don't check in often at the commons, but I will do so more often now. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:56, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

--Pkksf (talk) 01:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

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Help

Hi @Ro4444,

I needed a help from you

I am a Wikipedian who is keenly interested in map making(particularly of the Indian Subcontinent), recently I was looking for a new base for my maps, and in research of that, I came across your 1. Its base was fantastic. So I wanted to use this base for my maps. You had left a link to the demis map server for the base but the link was dead. Hence, I would be greatly thankful if you provide me with the background topography

Regards Nikel3012 (talk) 14:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nikel3012

Glad you liked the map! I can easily flip over the demis map tiles if you want them, but the base you're looking for was a heavily edited version of them. It's been a long while so I don't remember the exact editing process, but if you'd like I can try and extend the edited basemap into the Indian subcontinent. Let me know. Ro4444 (talk) 23:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey @Ro4444, It would be a great help, if you try to extend the edited base map into the Indian subcontinent. As it would greatly help me in my upcoming project.

Thanks and Regards Nikel3012 (talk) 10:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ro4444 Hope you would be helping me!! Nikel3012 (talk) 05:13, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nikel3012

Sorry for the wait. Please see here for a new SVG file (created & edited in Inkscape). I wasn't able to figure out how exactly to recreate the topography so it looks somewhat different here, hope it works. Rivers will also need a fair amount of manual adjustments in order to eliminate the rough production.

For placing cities above the equator, their coordinates can be used by converting latitudes and longitudes as follows:

• Longitude (X): Degrees x 60 + Minutes + 1800 - (0.5 x width of city icon)
• Latitude (Y): ABS(Degrees x 60 + Minutes - 3600 - [0.5 x width of city icon])

Hope you find this template helpful and good luck with your project! Ro4444 (talk) 22:49, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ro4444, Many Thanks for help, Please approve my request by going to the drive or gmail (as it demanded access from your side)There would be two requests or upload the image in commons.

Regards Nikel3012 (talk) 03:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@Nikel3012 - Try it now, it should work. Ro4444 (talk) 00:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again @Ro4444 for your kind behavior and excellent work. If you had not been there I would have found many difficulties in my path but because of you, I was saved from many discomforts. One last thing I want to bother you about is What kind of Manual Changes are needed in Rivers to eliminate rough production ?

Kind Regards

Nikel3012 (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

You're quite welcome @Nikel3012! On the rivers, at a high level they look fine but if you zoom in close enough you can tell a lot of them were rendered to appear somewhat jagged and/or disjointed. If you want to smooth them out and making them more accurate in the area of the map you're working on, that'll probably require taking the time to make some manual adjustments. If they look fine enough to you as-is, feel free to leave them unaltered.

Also, I noticed a small error...one of the river layers (path 1-9) is slightly in the wrong location. The current X,Y coordinates for that are 3599.552, 1859.750; that should instead be changed to 3599.552, 1799.750. Didn't see it until now. Ro4444 (talk) 01:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, I had done the second adjustment and Can you please tell me how to do manual adjustments for the river? Nikel3012 (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi! Is there any way I can only show the Indian Subcontinent, as the map is too large and I only want the parts of the subcontinent? I had tried different ways, like converting svg into png, etc., but failed. Please help with the above, as I am facing many problems.

Regards

Nikel3012 (talk) 06:37, 14 July 2024 (UTC)