User talk:Jagulin

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Jagulin!

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 07:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

What have you done?

Why are there no contributions, no user page, nothing, for this user? History only shows " 07:58, 11 March 2015‎ Wikimedia Commons Welcome talk contribs‎ m 229 bytes +229‎ ". Have you erased everything else? If so, why? Why is there nothing here...? Is this a real user? Best Regards, from Jan --Janwikifoto (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Jan! Your curiosity was unexpected, but I understand that it comes from my earlier comment about copyright notice.

Although the different Wikimedia sites have a central login now, there is no central user page. I created one here now, I didn't think anyone to be interested earlier. In my opinion and experience, discussions should focus on topic rather than person.

I'll leave judgement of "real user" to others, but the account was created and maintained by a living person. The history of this talk page seems accurate, but is hardly relevant. Anyone looking for a current list of my contributions to Commons should instead look at a link like this. It may not be extensive, but doesn't look empty to me. Jagulin (talk) 15:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Är du svensk? Med tanke på hur litet WP är på svenska, är ett bra och starkt förslag att aktiverar dig personligen, ser till att personligen blir känd, titta in på WMSE kontor, bygga en riktig identitet. Helt inte bara en online - sådana kan vara fake - utan riktig. Ett annat tips, är att läsa CC Licenese Conditions, alltså läsa VILLKORE, inte sammafattningen. Tänka, flera dagar, på vad meningarna betyder. Läsa svensk lag om copyright. Kanske några univ-kurs böcker. Först därefter, är man kanske mogen att diskutera de finer points in the legal deed. Observera även att 90% av alla mina bilder är betalda av WMSE, resekostnader, dvs för Varje bild du eller någon annan icke-påläst lyckas ta bort, skadas WMSE... Jag vore tacksam om du kunde hålla efter vandaler som vill ta bort, ta bort, bara för att de inte förstår licenser och villkor, in i minsta detalj. Jagönskar dig lycka till med dina juridik-studier! Mvh Jan --Janwikifoto (talk) 19:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I've thought about it for "several days" now and I'm writing only to close this misled discussion. I would have hoped that Jan read my initial suggestion instead of coming here to question my intentions and my account. Note that I just asked for more clear copyright notes, I never (so far) questioned his rights or asked for any file removal.

In my world, Wikipedia is built by all volunteers together. There is of course no reason to ask for a law degree and office-visits. Though some credentials may be positive, anyone is welcome to engage with good intentions. I'd question any assumption that the work of the many not taking payment from WMSE should be brushed off as less valuable or "vandalism". Better would be for those very engaged to make sure their copyright claims are clear for everyone and respect the need for references to be easily checked. Jagulin (talk) 16:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)