User talk:Argean

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Request on a flag

Hello, I have recently created a page on the flag of the Székelys on Wikipedia and I could not find a proper version of the unofficial red and black version. I have seen that you have uploaded lots of flags, so I was wondering if you could create a proper version of the flag. Here is a source that may help you [1]. Thanks! Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 23:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Super Dromaeosaurus: That's a tricky one but I'll give it a shot. Do you have any other links where the whole design is visible? Thanks!. --Argean (talk) 11:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, here are they: [2][3]. By the way, there are images of that flag uploaded on Commons ([4], [5], the last one is another less common variant), but they are of low quality or just a photo of a real flag. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 12:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Super Dromaeosaurus: Here you are

I decided to use this version because it looks like the ones in the photos. I hope it looks fine :) --Argean (talk) 23:55, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

It looks perfect! Better than I could have ever done it. Thanks for your help! Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 00:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Super Dromaeosaurus: No problem! Happy to help :) --Argean (talk) 07:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Cultural flags

Hi, regarding Matabele people - I've never seen a blue-gray before maybe it's better, maybe worse. I prefer this one

better flag for Cebuanos, even though I haven't found an explanation of the symbols anywhere but still seems more appropriate than province`s flag.

Native Canadian peoples: Nisga'a, Tłı̨chǫ and Franco-Ténois

this flag is reported on several Turkish-speaking sites as belonging to Iranian Turkmens.

w:File:Mulatto212.jpg this file signed as Mulattas flag.

if I ever find something else, I will write. - 213.192.68.53 17:15 17.11.2020

@213.192.68.53: Thanks for the suggestions! Regarding the Matabele: you can see the flag here along with the one you suggested. I'm not sure though if the latter is correct because the facebook page of MLF shows a different flag. I'll search it a little further I guess.

Your suggestion for Cebuanos is good, although I can't find many sources with this flag. I don't like the choices for many of the Filipino flags, but then I don't really know much about their different flags.

I will add Nisga'a and Tlicho to Native Canadians, but Franco-Tenois are of European origin. There are many Flags of French-speaking people of North America, but I've been a little hesitant to add all of them.

You're right about Iranian Turkmens (I want to upgrade the quality of the vector file at some point though), and I know the proposed Mulatto flag but didn't know where to add it.

Feel free to make suggestions any time. --Argean (talk) 21:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I would Mulatto flag add to multiethnic Americas.

here is the flag for English\European New Zealanders

new flags for Subanon people version1 and version2

not reliable flag for Norwegian South Africans

Hungarians in Serbia according to the Serbian [version]

Tay Khang

Tày people

Tat people (Caucasus)

Burgenland Croats

Aṉangu (Aboriginal Australian group)

Saibai Islanders or Kalaw Lagaw Ya language

my comment as to Kashubs: that flag is official but not the most popular. The version with this coat of arms on the black strip or in the center appears most often. I know this because I live in the area.

- 213.192.68.53 18:50 18.11.2020

@213.192.68.53: Thanks, I'm already aware of all these flags, apart from the recently uploaded Subanese flags and the Anangu and Saibai flags that I missed before for some reason. Unfortunately all others are either fake/user-made flags (the flag of Hungarians in Serbia is just the logo of their association displayed on the flag of Hungary - the actual flag is the one already included in the gallery) that don't have any sources at all, or obsolete colonial flags (the Vietnamese ones).

Regarding the Kashubian flag: thanks for the information. I recently vectorised the Kashubian coat of arms - this one , but I haven't uploaded it yet, but I uploaded an svg version of the banner of the CoA - here . Can you please let me know which version is actually the most popular one? The one with the all-black griffin or the one that has red tongue and yellow claws? Thanks. --Argean (talk) 22:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

P.S. I forgot to mention that the Tat flag was recently deleted from Commons because the design is a copyvio of the old logo of Vauxhall - this one . I recently found a source about a different design - [6] which I'm due to vectorise and upload some time soon. --Argean (talk) 22:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

The original flag was created before the war and was accepted at 1929. Is commonly used on monuments, buildings, etc.

this Banner was also established 90 years ago, is still in use.

I also saw a completely different - seven-color. It has to do with traditional embroidery (three shades of blue, red, yellow, green and black\brown). I saw her only once myself.

the official coat of arms does not really exist, but this version was used until around 2000, then this version was created on a strange dial . It clearly differed from the voivodeship coat of arms . The new version is all black, rather, for no apparent reason.

The most popular flags today are these two [[7]] sometimes without an inscription.

I mention the informal ensign + in this form

PS if you want to made new file, here you have a nice base [[8]]

- 213.192.68.53 13:40 19.11.2020

@213.192.68.53: Many thanks for the very detailed reply. I'll create a vectorised version of the flag as you suggested and upload it to Commons. By the way and since you are from the region, I was wondering, is there any regional flag for w:Kociewie? I really like the region's coat of arms , but I can't find any flag. I found this post at Deviantart [9] back from 2015 where a user has created a suggested design for a flag, but I can't find anything else on the web. Are you aware of anything?

Regarding Minahan's online database, I'm already aware of it, but I know that it's not very reliable and it requires double-checking all sources, because unfortunately there are some mistakes and innacuracies. Still a useful database though. --Argean (talk) 14:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Kociewie does not have a flag and there is no one who can adopted some.

- 213.192.68.53 12:30 23.11.2020

new finds to the gallery:

File:Emberá-Wounaan Flag.svg w:Embera-Wounaan

Rennellese people

w:Karachays

w:Usaghade language

w:Tehuelche people

w:Pomo

w:Yavapai

w:Crow people

File:Ktunaxa Flag.png w:Kutenai

w:Nakoda (Stoney)

w:Northern Ndebele people

File:Nlaka'pamux Flag.png w:Nlaka'pamux

w:Tlingit

File:Kolīne Flag.png w:Tahltan

File:Flag of the Chinook Nation.PNG w:Chinookan peoples

w:Malay Indonesians

w:Batak

w:Rapa language

w:Nitaskinan

w:Stʼatʼimc

w:Secwepemc

w:Cayman Islands English

better files

File:Flag of Basuria Independence Movement and the Republic of Basuria.png

File:Annobon.svg

w:Komi peoples according to a Russian article [10] many komi activists wants a flag change, which has to do with the old flag of Bashkortostan.

- 213.192.68.53 19:20 8.12.2020

File:Flag of Csángós.svg

Dear Argean,

It seems that you made a duplicate of this file File:Flag of Csangos.svg whose source is the real flag [11] and not the coat of arms, as you mentioned in your description. I'm not a vexillologist, but I think your flag is a little wrong in terms of the proportions of the silver cross and the base fields. It certainly needs to be redirected, according to the policies here. I have no problem uploading your new version over mine, if you think it's the right version.

Sincerely, --Kun Kipcsak (talk) 09:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kun Kipcsak:

Thanks for your message and apologies for uploading a duplicate, since I wasn't aware that you've previously uploaded this flag. My design is actually based on multiple sources and I'm very confident that is the correct one: [12], [13], [14], [15]. I wasn't completely certain about the exact hues, since they are slightly different in some of the sources, but I used the ones from this file , that was earlier uploaded at Commons. I'm only referencing this source as a confirmation that the flag has been officially adopted by the Csango Council, not as a source for the design. Finally, if you look very carefully at the source you've used, I'm afraid that the image is actually cropped because the black border is missing at the bottom of the flag, while it's visible in all other sources. Feel free to upload my version over yours and redirect the file. Regards, --Argean (talk) 10:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

P.S. This source contains also a photo of the real flag if any doubts about the correct proportions. --Argean (talk) 10:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear Argean,

Thank you for the explanation. I uploaded your version to File:Flag of Csangos.svg where I mentioned you as the author of the vector file and changed the description of the RGB codes. I tagged the duplicate file to be deleted. I also improved the description to jpg and png files.

Sincerely, --Kun Kipcsak (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear @Kun Kipcsak: , thank you for doing that! I'm happy to help with any other flag designs in the future. :)

Kind regards, --Argean (talk) 15:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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5/4

您好，在您閱讀前，我想先為我差勁的寫作技巧和外語能力道歉(我的英文水準使得我只能用我的母語寫下本文)，我不是一個專職的維基人。

我注意到您在日前復原了我在Cultural flags做的重新編排，如果有哪裡需要於執行前再考慮的，希望您向我做出相關說明，謝謝。 我認為就目前以大洲來做民族的分類會造成某些問題(如伊朗語支較適合列於印度-亞利安語族之下，而非和其他部分分拆於不同的兩章節)，我希望該頁面能得到良好的調整。我嘗試將屬同一語系的民族歸於同類，並以文化區作為大分類的依據，但很不幸我沒有足夠的時間和精力來確保其完整性並將其完成，使得頁面看起來參差不全。我知道您在這方面的研究比我深很多，而我也相信您在該頁面花費了許多心思去維護，我可能沒有資格和您直接對談。我也清楚您在看到頁面被大幅更動時可能感到反感，但我還是希望能聽聽您的想法，讓我能以更妥善的方進行修改。

感謝你閱讀我的留言，如果您能做出回應我會非常感激的，謝謝 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 小劍611611 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Dear friend, thanks for your message. My apologies for not speaking Chinese so I had to use Google Translate to read your message. I do not completely disagree with your idea of classification, but I find it a bit problematic for 2 reasons: Firstly I find your proposed categories very big: especially the "1.Languages that Originated in Europe, North and Central Asia" seems unnecessarily clattered. The second reason, which for me is much more important, is that organising groups by linguistic classification is not completely representative of culture. For example people of the Middle East have much more similarities among them, regardless if their languages are Turkic, Semitic or Iranian. Similarly people of the Indian subcontinent have much more cultural similarities, regardless if they are Indo-Aryan or Dravidian. Your peoposed classification does not take that into account. There were long previous discussions on the page about what would be the best classification, and other authors even suggested racial ones, which caused many conflicts. I suggested at the time that the most neutral classification is a geographic one, and this has not been contested since. I know it is not perfect, but my idea was to keep the page as better organised as possible, without creating controversies or conflicts. I hope you understand and agree, but if not I am happy to discuss it further. Kind Regards, -- Argean (talk) 10:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Pomaks.svg

hi! i suggest renaming it by a name that describes what it technically means, "Horizontal bicolor blue and red flag - 0000A0 and FF0000 - 8 to 5.svg". what do you think? RZuo (talk) 01:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Oh absolutely agree. I didn't think about it from a more technical aspect. Many thanks! -- Argean (talk) 10:20, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

September 2022

hello Argean Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 01:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Good morning Argean Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 01:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

im time to upload more real city flags Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 01:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Stop it Argean thats my files Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 11:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

please don't delete my Flag of sukhumi and Azerbaijan because that's real Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 11:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Argean thats mine Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 11:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Argean that flag of Sukhumi and Azerbaijan are mine please Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 11:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The "Whole Azerbaijan" flag is fake. The Sukhumi one I've seen before, but you can't just remove tags. If the flags are "yours" that's exactly the problem. Commons is not a personal webspace, i.e. COM:NOTHOST. File with no sources that I'm aware that are fake I will propose for deletion, since they don't serve any educational purpose. --Argean (talk) 12:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The "Whole Azerbaijan" flag is real. The Sukhumi one I've seen before, but you can't just remove tags. If the flags are "yours" that's exactly the problem. Commons is not a personal webspace, i.e. COM:NOTHOST. File with no sources that I'm aware that are real, since they don't serve any educational purpose. -- Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 23:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

The "Whole Azerbaijan" flag is real. The Sukhumi one I've seen before, but you can't just remove tags. If the flags are "yours" that's exactly the problem. Commons is not a personal webspace, i.e. COM:NOTHOST. File with sources that I'm aware that are real, since they don't serve any educational purpose. -- Han Mi Nyeo (talk) 23:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

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