User talk:Amirani1746

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Revision warring

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Hi, instead of edit warring, you should suggest how to improve said images. I've already explained why the old version is unlikely. So you should suggest what modifications you want, because those visible incisors and postcanines are not likely. FunkMonk (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is problems the picture of the image of inostrancevia that you made, here are the faults:
  • We see the traces of the teeth on the side and the premaxilla (which are supposed to be closed)
  • The fact that you have removed the gray background and the hair which gives a "mammalian" aspect to the creature frustrates me enormously (without giving full fur either)...
  • The front of the jaw should have a sort of curve similar to the previous version
If you fill in all those flaws and make a more satisfying picture of Inostrancevia latifrons, I'd be willing to leave that picture alone. Amirani1746 (talk) 16:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, edit warring before discussing is not acceptable. A way of finding a solution could be to post this and other such pictures at the image-review page. I have done these edits to prevent other editors from removing the drawings for their inaccuracies, so you're not helping their case by knee-jerk reversion, it will only get the images excluded for good. Note I have even re-added canines in some images were they were removed, so you should be happy someone is trying to make a compromise.
It seems you are ignoring what I wrote on my talk page, so I'll repeat it again, with other comments:
  • What you're seeing are the lower incisors, because the mouth isn't fully closed. Even in the original image, it's clear the mouth isn't fully closed (notice the gap between the jaws along their length), so the teeth,including the postcanines behind the canine, would be visible between the lips.
  • The background should be white so the image can be used on white backgrounds without a frame, and there is little reason to think gorgonopsians had any hair, so they should at least not be shown as overly hairy as a compromise. What you personally feel doesn't trump probability.
  • The contour of the upper lip would not follow the curve of the jaw when covered in flesh that encase the incisors, look at practically any modern animal for comparison. You are arguing for extreme "shrink-wrapping" of fleshy features, and features not seen in any known animals, but which are tropes in paleoart. FunkMonk (talk) 22:50, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you still leave the moose hair on the white background? Amirani1746 (talk) 10:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Moose hair? What's that? You need to remember that the reason why they are even shown with whiskers is because some pits in the snout were interpreted as indications of this. If they had hair for sensing, it doesn't really make sense they would have randomly scattered hair of no function elsewhere on the body. But that's also why I've left in the hairs around the snout, because they are whiskers. FunkMonk (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok, now i got it, but can you still repeat the incisor traces on the premaxilla? Amirani1746 (talk) 17:46, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You mean the lines on the upper lip? FunkMonk (talk) 16:15, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. Amirani1746 (talk) 16:17, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Now erased the lines, but notice they were meant as wrinkles, because even the original version has wrinkles on the front of the upper lip, they were just meant to be a continuation of that. FunkMonk (talk) 17:25, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Technically I think it's ok, I still prefer the original, of course, but considering all the new submissions, it's okay until proven otherwise. See you later Amirani1746 (talk) 17:51, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, yes, I don't have a big problem with the originals, but we're not the only ones who have a say, and it seems many others would have covered all the teeth, so this is the best we can do if we wan to keep the images with at least the canines showing. FunkMonk (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Finally, after thinking, I thought and I prefer the old version you made, the eye of the animal is too small compared to the orbital cavity. Amirani1746 (talk) 13:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The orbital cavity is not what determines the size of the visible eye, the inner diameter of the sclerotic ring is. Large gorgonopsians had pretty small sclerotic rings, see for example:[1] In fact, the eye is probably still too large in my new version. Only small ones like Viatkogorgon appear to have had large eyes. FunkMonk (talk) 14:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Kent G. Budge (talk) 15:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Yann (talk) 19:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crops with down-scaling

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Hi,

I've noticed you're overwriting images with crop, but also with a significant down-scale. The down-scale should be avoided. In this picture

besdies the crop was made, you've also downsized image from 2,800 × 2,100 to 726 × 441.

Please be careful while performing COM:OVERWRITE. VoidWanderer (talk) 10:41, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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FunkMonk (talk) 20:07, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yann (talk) 19:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yann (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]