User talk:Alexis Jazz/Archives/2018/February

Wikimedia Wizard

We seem to have gotten ourselves in to a fix where we know what the problem is but can't find a simple WC way of correcting it. As it is said, there are no rules on Wikipedia and the same can be said for Wikimedia Commons. So have created Upload Wizard proposals based on your work (which I support). Much still needs to be done but we can cross all the T's and dot all the I's later.P.g.champion (talk) 17:01, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

@P.g.champion: Thanks. I just don't have enough time to do everything I want to do. The only issue I have with this is that I think the page you created should be in the Commons: namespace. As you said, there are no rules.. - Alexis Jazz 20:06, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Whoops! Yes, my mistake. Glad one of us are on the ball. P.g.champion (talk) 20:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the title

Thanks for adding a title!! Wikiquote has much more strict rules than Wikipedia has. I don't know why. On Wikiquote it is only allowed to use Commons-pictures. FotoDutch (talk) 12:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Iraqi Dinar 2014 25000 banknote.jpg

Hi, I deleted this file as a copyright violation. After some much debate, there is still no license for the banknote, and there isn't going to have one any time soon. No banknote can be reproduced without a proper license. If it is blurred so much than the artwork can't be seen, then it would be useless and out of scope. Regards, Yann (talk) 05:50, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Essay at the User: page

Chipping away at images – it’s wiki, and there is a history of revisions (unless specially expunged). I reverted incompetent “improvements” many times, the last one yesterday.

Breaking descriptions – agree, and you didn’t side vocally with me on VP.

Useless selfies – a minor problem, crap is everywhere.

Stressing users to lie – a problem local to the Ungood Wizard, and in any case fixable.

Scaler issue – don’t rely on problematical files. An image can ever be encoded in such way that scaled properly.
Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi:

Chipping away: the problem is not that it's possible to chip away at images. The problem is that when this is reported (in case of mass chipping) it just ends up being ignored until ArchiverBot removes the discussion.

Breaking descriptions: hadn't read that topic on VP. Will read it now. Not that I expect my support to make any difference.

Useless selfies: minor, but largely fixable. Won't be fixed.

Stressing users: fixable, but this bug is so stupid it's either way too hard to report bugs (because thousands if not tens of thousands of people must have already ran into it) or it has been reported but nobody can be bothered to fix it.

Scaler issue: the image was fine and I could scale it properly on my own computer. Mediawiki didn't select the right scaling method, probably somehow triggered by the composition of that particular image.

- Alexis Jazz 18:31, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Not expect your support to make any difference? But I didn’t receive virtually any support, including Dbachmann himself. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: I'm sorry, as I said, I simply hadn't read it. My support or that of Dbachmann would make no difference. A hundred users could support it and it would make no difference. And had Dbachmann already been unblocked when you started that discussion? - Alexis Jazz 18:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Dbachmann’s block expired just hours before. I missed and ignored the conflict completely until Jcb informed me, after a long argument. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: I could imagine Dbachmann wanting to leave this crap behind him and also not risk another block. I'll reply though. - Alexis Jazz 20:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

softly, softly, catchee monkey

Think this is what we are really trying to do regarding the Wizard. The way that people in the Indian subcontinent catch monkeys, is to put nuts in a pot and tie it to a stake. Monkey can get its hand in -but with a handful of nuts- its fist is then too large to withdraw it back through the narrow neck. So whilst monkey is wondering what to do, a villager simply comes up and clubs it on the head. The Wizzard must have a narrower neck – just like those pots. P.g.champion (talk) 00:42, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Blur please

Hello. I just noticed your crop to this image. A blurred jumbotron would make more sense if you can please do that. Thank you. File:Target_Center_scoreboard.jpg -SusanLesch (talk) 03:58, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done - Alexis Jazz 14:27, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry and explanation

Hi, Sorry if you feel attack, this was not my intention. In the case of the 3D template, the issue is very easily sorted out. I don't really see any problem.

From the list you created, it is difficult to find out which files are impacted. We need links to the files. For that, it is best to use a category. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

@Yann: For the 3D template, sure, those couple of files I linked are no problem at all. We can fix them by hand and notify the users. But the 3D template was only enabled a few days ago. Which means that if left unchanged, we would have to deal with confusing license information and waste time for years to come. I don't want that and I don't understand why you would want it when it's possible to just fix it on the upload form.

For the list I created, you don't understand - I didn't create it for you and the categories in it have no place in a new category. I created it to aid in fixing a bug, for which links to the actual category aren't all that important. The error displayed is far more important. A list of links or a category would be much harder to work with as it wouldn't show what is going wrong.

The list has done it's job. For the categories that have names different from Wikidata, a hidden category may be useful but it would be absolutely pointless if I created it. That needs to be automated.

I did not want you (or anyone else) to try and fix the categories the list provided the errors of. That would be useless. The bug that was causing the errors had to be fixed.

A simple guideline for you for the future: if you have no idea how somebody created something and couldn't easily reproduce it yourself, assume it is not "useless". If you are interested, just kindly ask what it is and why it was created the way it was. Don't insult other people's work. - Alexis Jazz 17:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Editing Launay

Were you the user who edited my image of Bernard-Réne Jourdan de Launay? - Conservatrix (talk) 11:50, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Conservatrix: Too late to deny it now I guess? - Alexis Jazz 11:58, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

No, no, I am thankful. Would you be willing to do me a favor? Could you remove the creases on this image? - Conservatrix (talk) 12:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Conservatrix: I see. That image requires some different skills and I am short on time. But there is almost certainly somebody at Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop who will be happy to help with that. - Alexis Jazz 13:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)